• Windows Telnet...

    From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to All on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:49:00
    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to Digital Man on Friday, October 31, 2014 10:50:00
    On 10-29-14 14:13, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya DM....

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trust users with access to Microsoft's
    telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack source.

    Understood... but if I use the Clean-up command to "exit" the window?

    That wouldn't help. :-)

    OK.. so that's moot on using Win's telnet... it's history.. :)

    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version
    of telnet" since RFC854, from 1983. There are additional
    options, suboptions, etc. introduced in subsequent RFCs, but these aren't "newer versions of telnet"

    This is the message I get when logging in with telgate
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --- * Welcome to THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND telnet service! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -- *
    * * National Weather Service information provided by Alden Electronics, Inc. * * and updated each minute as reports come in over our data feed.
    * *
    * * **Note: If you cannot get past this opening screen, you must use a
    * * different version of the "telnet" program--some of the ones for IBM
    * * compatible PC's have a bug that prevents proper connection.
    * *
    * * comments: jmasters@wunderground.com
    * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --

    This screen is as far as I can get. I have to CTRL-] to disconnect. The
    url s:

    rainmaker.wunderground.com

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!


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  • From Digital Man@RDFIG to Bill McGarrity on Saturday, November 01, 2014 20:37:00
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 2014 11:11
    am

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to Digital Man on Sunday, November 02, 2014 00:37:00
    On 11-01-14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    Strange, if I login via the control panel it works but if I log in remotely, still gets hung up where I said it did. I just want to make sure my callers have access to it and it works as designed.

    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.

    Thanks DM... appreciate you looking into it.


    Bill

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  • From Access Denied@RDFIG/PHARCYDE to Digital Man & Bill McGarr on Sunday, November 02, 2014 02:37:00
    Hello Digital,

    On 01 Nov 14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    I can also confirm it works here. I got my forecast for the next week anyways, if that's what you're looking for.

    Just an FYI, there's no "hit a letter and it happens" kinda thing. You have to hit enter for every prompt. Like when you type in your 3 letter city code, you have to hit enter. When you hit X to exit, you have to hit enter also. I don't even think my 3 letters I typed in displayed on my end, but when I typed them and hit enter it showed my forecast.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to Access Denied on Sunday, November 02, 2014 08:37:00
    On 11-01-14 21:41, Access Denied wrote to Digital Man & Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    Hello Digital,

    On 01 Nov 14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter acity code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    I can also confirm it works here. I got my forecast for the next week anyways, if that's what you're looking for.

    Question is, were you successful by using the Control Panel's login or did you use a remote program? It works for me also when I login locally.

    Just an FYI, there's no "hit a letter and it happens" kinda thing. You have to hit enter for every prompt. Like when you type in your 3 letter city code, you have to hit enter. When you hit X to exit, you have to
    hit enter also. I don't even think my 3 letters I typed in displayed on
    my end, but when I typed them and hit enter it showed my forecast.

    Once you do get passed the opening screen, most is self explainatory... :)


    Thanks!!


    Bill

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  • From Dennis Ayala@RDFIG/THEWALL to Bill McGarrity on Sunday, November 02, 2014 10:37:00
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Sun Nov 02 2014 01:09
    am

    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.


    I tried to connect to your BBS but the connection was refused.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to Dennis Ayala on Sunday, November 02, 2014 14:37:00
    On 11-02-14 12:00, Dennis Ayala wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.


    I tried to connect to your BBS but the connection was refused.

    I did a dns on your bbs to see if I had your IP blocked and I don't... if you were using thatIP to try and connect. I have no record of it here. Were you using a different address?

    Thanks




    Bill

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  • From KenDB3@RDFIG/KD3NET to Bill McGarrity on Monday, November 03, 2014 11:37:00
    Bill, I had the same problem you were seeing, but then it went away. The day you posted about it, I set up a Telgate and everytime I got the first screen that asked you to hit enter to continue, it would fall apart right there. Nothing would happen at all.

    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    For what its worth, if I telnet directly through Windows Telnet, I can see whatever I type for responses, but if I Telnet through SyncTerm directly, I cannot see myresponses that I type. Not a big deal to me, but it was a
    curious behavior.

    ~KenDB3
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  • From mark lewis@RDFIG to Bill McGarrity on Monday, November 03, 2014 22:37:00
    On Mon, 03 Nov 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to mark lewis:

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have
    gone properlybecause of some sort of framebuffer error when
    running the jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is
    no framebuffer on the nix system that max is using and there's no
    GUI either...

    Mark... try logging on over here... Ken said it worked, just
    wasn't getting input echo back. I just updated all my exec files
    to yesterday's release.

    i'll try to remember that tomorrow... i'm about wiped out right now...

    do you have any ideas on the framebuffer thing i mention above and whether or not it might have prevented the jsexec process from updating the javascript files properly??

    )\/(ark


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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG/TEQUILAM to mark lewis on Monday, November 03, 2014 23:49:00
    On 11-03-14 22:02, mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to mark lewis:
    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have
    gone properly because of some sort of framebuffer error when
    running the jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is
    no framebuffer on the nix system that max is using and there's no
    GUI either...

    Mark... try logging on over here... Ken said it worked, just
    wasn't getting input echo back. I just updated all my exec files
    to yesterday's release.

    i'll try to remember that tomorrow... i'm about wiped out right now...

    do you have any ideas on the framebuffer thing i mention above and
    whether or not it might have prevented the jsexec process from updating the javascript files properly??

    Not being familiar with linux I wouldn't have a clue. Last I heard with the newer versions of Synch, 3.15 and above you no longer need to do the jsexec update. I haven't done it on my winbox...


    Bill

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  • From Digital Man@RDFIG to KenDB3 on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 18:49:00
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to Bill McGarrity on Mon Nov 03 2014 09:37 am

    Bill, I had the same problem you were seeing, but then it went away. The
    day you posted about it, I set up a Telgate and every time I got the first screen that asked you to hit enter to continue, it would fall apart right there. Nothing would happen at all.

    Now, sincethen I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't
    see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    For what its worth, if I telnet directly through Windows Telnet, I can see whatever I type for responses, but if I Telnet through SyncTerm directly, I cannot see my responses that I type. Not a big deal to me, but it was a curious behavior.

    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man

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  • From KenDB3@RDFIG/KD3NET to Digital Man on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 05:37:00
    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as itis on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.


    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3
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  • From KenDB3@RDFIG/KD3NET to Digital Man on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:37:00

    Youcan enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command
    line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    Which I actually gave this formatting a go, and sofar I haven't had luck. I even tried it with the brackets (which I was pretty sure wasn't the answer). I know echo works because I can use Ctrl-] to turn on Echo once I am already connected.

    Thanks for any help, dm! Its not a big priority for me, I justlike learning
    how these things work. It is honestly just fun playing around with the system.

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@RDFIG/REALITY to Digital Man on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:37:00
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Tue Nov 04 2014 04:44 pm

    The update.js script does not "update from CVS" or actually perform any kind of update, it's more like a post-update scriptto be run when upgrading from v3.14 or earlier to v3.15 and later.

    ...although that would be cool.

    apt-get update synchronet :)
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  • From Bill McGarrity@RDFIG to mark lewis on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 16:38:00
    On 11-05-1414:47, mark lewis wrote to KenDB3 <=-

    Hiya mark...

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the
    command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look likethis?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores
    everything after the remote host... that's why we copied the telgate.js file and edited the new one to manually add thoseoptions...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changeswe made other than commenting out
    the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    That worked perfectly.... kudos.

    Thanks


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  • From Digital Man@RDFIG to mark lewis on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 16:38:00
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Tue Nov 04 2014 09:32 pm


    On Tue, 04 Nov 2014,Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    i just tried it on max's system exactly like you show above... no
    amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that
    "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months...

    What version are you/he running then?

    3.16 i think...

    There are many ways to check the exact version, even using finger.

    whatever it is that's in CVS since 2012 Dec 08... i think
    max has done 4 or 5 CVS updates since then... i know that at least one update was done incorrectly and it took a day to recover from but since
    then max wrote a script to do it properly... they just don't update the system but once every few months or so... the last update was several
    months ago so it is probably about time for them to update again ;)

    Several months ago and Dec 2012 and quite far apart. It's quite possible there was a telgate related fix since Dec 2012.

    digital man

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  • From Zazz@DECKHVN2 to Bill McGarrity on Saturday, July 11, 2015 13:24:32
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

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  • From Zazz@DECKHVN2 to Bill McGarrity on Saturday, July 11, 2015 13:25:59
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.
    Have you used Telnetdoor.exe from Rich Parish. I use it on Synchronet and Mystic board and have had no problems with it.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@TEQUILAM to Zazz on Saturday, July 11, 2015 15:16:00
    Zazz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    Have you used Telnetdoor.exe from Rich Parish. I use it on Synchronet
    and Mystic board and have had no problems with it.

    No need to... I got the telgate working properly for the door I was asking about.

    Thanks



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  • From Digital Man to Zazz on Monday, July 13, 2015 15:33:05
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Zazz to Bill McGarrity on Sat Jul 11 2015 01:24 pm

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    I think what you want to use is mudgate.js or unixgate.js. Have you tried those?

    digital man

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