Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created and administer? ;)

Indeed: https://t.me/joinchat/DAu99h2akh1MVpzOUWMbsQ ?


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Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created and administer? ;)

And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in Fido and linking them? ;)


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
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And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in Fido and linking them? ;)

Moderator approval? <g,d,r>


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi Brother,

On 2020-11-20 20:45:16, you wrote to August Abolins:

Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created
and administer? ;)

And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in Fido and linking them? ;)

The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should remain an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are already gated.

A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the Telegram side. ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Brother,

On 2020-11-20 20:45:16, you wrote to August Abolins:

Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created AA>> and administer? ;)

And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in
Fido and linking them? ;)

The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should remain an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are already gated.

A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the Telegram side. ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

You may like to adjust some permissions. I think I just changed the name of it for everyone! Sorry, I thought that it would only rename for me. Or does it?

Meanwhile a new fido echo for the TgM/Fido topic might be good.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, August!

20 ¡«∩ 20 20:53, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same
name in Fido and linking them? ;)

Moderator approval? <g,d,r>

Well, so, here we are trying to agree. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would
be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have
different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it
can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the
Telegram side. ;-)

Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #. The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, Wilfred!

20 ¡«∩ 20 18:52, Wilfred van Velzen -> Brother Rabbit:

The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

It's perfect!

I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should
remain an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are
already gated.

May be you are right. I thought it would be more convenient this way, but you certainly know better. This is not the only Telegram group about Fido without Fido.

A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea though, I think.

Ok. Let's do it!

Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram
and Fidonet side?

Yes. The name of the group now may be completely different from ECHOTAG. Such groups even already exist.

Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet
on the Telegram side. ;-)

Yes. It can be that way.

I really liked both of your ideas. We can create a FIDONET.TELEGRAM group associated with TELEGRAM.FIDONET echo and/or link the FidoNet group with the TELEGRAM echo. It is very important that they are international and it is desirable to have one of these groups open, public.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

20 ¡«∩ 20 21:11, August Abolins -> Wilfred van Velzen:

Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #.
The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity
is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

You are right.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi August,

On 2020-11-20 21:04:12, you wrote to me:

You may like to adjust some permissions. I think I just changed the
name of it for everyone! Sorry, I thought that it would only rename
for me. Or does it?

It renamed it for everyone. I think I have the permisions fixed now.

Meanwhile a new fido echo for the TgM/Fido topic might be good.

This area already kind of serves as such... But a clearer area tagname (so implicitly a new area), might be usefull.

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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Hi August,

On 2020-11-20 21:11:21, you wrote to me:

A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would
be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have
different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it
can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the
Telegram side. ;-)

Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #. The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

Ok, good, so we don't have to worry about the tagname...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Stas,

On 2020-11-20 21:07:08, you wrote to me:

A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good
idea though, I think.

Ok. Let's do it!

Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram
and Fidonet side?

Yes. The name of the group now may be completely different from ECHOTAG. Such groups even already exist.

Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet
on the Telegram side. ;-)

Yes. It can be that way.

I really liked both of your ideas. We can create a FIDONET.TELEGRAM group associated with TELEGRAM.FIDONET echo and/or link the FidoNet group with the TELEGRAM echo. It is very important that they are international and it is desirable to have one of these groups open, public.

Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a better idea?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

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Hi, August!

20 ¡«∩ 20 20:53, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same BR>> name in Fido and linking them? ;)

Moderator approval? <g,d,r>

Well, so, here we are trying to agree. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Hi Stas,

I see the progress you are attempting for the Telegram user! :)

The top of the messages as they arrive, now include a new line with the From node address and msgid on a 3rd line.

Perhaps you could drop the node address since it is already present in the official "--From: " line at the top.

Or.. is this a first step in a plan to use the msgid for constructing a replyid when a TgM user does an actual R)eply from this app?


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
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Hi, Wilfred!

20 ¡«∩ 20 20:53, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
better idea?

May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas,

On 2020-11-21 13:54:26, you wrote to me:

Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same
on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
better idea?

May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

Does it matter, either way? ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello Stas!

** On Saturday 21.11.20 - 13:54, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Hi, Wilfred!

20 ¡«∩ 20 20:53, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on
both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
better idea?

May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

Personnally, I think the following fits the "idea" of the
concept of accessing Fidonet using the Telegram app:

FIDONET_X_TELEGRAM

..where the X represents "-by-" and suggests a two-way
exchange as well.

Before that, I was partial to a mirror approach:

TENODIF.MARGELET

Another was a mashup:

TIDONET.FELEGRAM

FIGHTONET.HELLEGRAM was another one that popped in my head.

All of the above portray many of the qualities and attitudes
some people have: reflection, confusion, denial, cooperation.

:)

On we go.

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Hi August,

On 2020-11-21 09:21:00, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

Personnally, I think the following fits the "idea" of the
concept of accessing Fidonet using the Telegram app:

FIDONET_X_TELEGRAM

..where the X represents "-by-" and suggests a two-way
exchange as well.

Before that, I was partial to a mirror approach:

TENODIF.MARGELET

Another was a mashup:

TIDONET.FELEGRAM

FIGHTONET.HELLEGRAM was another one that popped in my head.

;-)

I think we should keep it simple and clear...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi, August!

21 ¡«∩ 20 06:27, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Perhaps you could drop the node address since it is already present in
the official "--From: " line at the top.

No. @MSGID may not match the valid Fido address.

Or.. is this a first step in a plan to use the msgid for constructing
a replyid when a TgM user does an actual R)eply from this app?

Yes. This is done so that it would be possible for Fido not to break the reply links.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Wilfred!

21 ¡«∩ 20 14:46, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

Does it matter, either way? ;)

This is important for those searching for "fidonet" or "fido". So it will be at the top of the list if we make it open.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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