• JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search

    From Psi-Jack@DECKHVN2 to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_JavaScript on Monday, October 06, 2014 11:44:08
    Just curious if anyone has done anything like this, or is interested and capable.

    I'd like to be able to search and browse a FTN-style nodelist of some
    sort. Or multiple nodelist files for several networks would be most ideal.

    Does anyone know if such a JavaScript module exists that could be used,
    or if anyone's working on such a thing, or would be willing to take on
    this kind of project that could be used in a fairly modular way so that
    one could tie it into their email/netmail system to be able to look up
    an address and show the node information so someone trying to send mail
    to the destination can see and verify that it's going to where they'd
    expect?

    I'd be curious to see such a thing, and I'm not, personally, yet fully
    capable of programming it, but I plan to as I get more in-depth into
    learning.

    Psi-Jack

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  • From Bill McGarrity@TEQUILAM to Psi-Jack on Monday, October 06, 2014 13:15:00
    On 10-06-14 11:44, Psi-Jack wrote to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_JavaScript <=-

    Just curious if anyone has done anything like this, or is interested
    and capable.

    I'd like to be able to search and browse a FTN-style nodelist of some sort. Or multiple nodelist files for several networks would be most
    ideal.

    Does anyone know if such a JavaScript module exists that could be used,
    or if anyone's working on such a thing, or would be willing to take on this kind of project that could be used in a fairly modular way so that one could tie it into their email/netmail system to be able to look up
    an address and show the node information so someone trying to send mail
    to the destination can see and verify that it's going to where they'd expect?

    I'd be curious to see such a thing, and I'm not, personally, yet fully capable of programming it, but I plan to as I get more in-depth into learning.

    There already is a program called FNL-Scan that will do that but it's abandonedware and unregistered will only do one FTN network. I run it here but it does have a few short-comings.


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  • From Psi-Jack@DECKHVN2 to Bill McGarrity on Monday, October 06, 2014 15:31:00
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Bill McGarrity to Psi-Jack on Mon Oct 06 2014 01:15 pm

    On 10-06-14 11:44, Psi-Jack wrote to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_JavaScript

    Just curious if anyone has done anything like this, or is interested
    and capable.

    I'd like to be able to search and browse a FTN-style nodelist of
    some sort. Or multiple nodelist files for several networks would be
    most ideal.

    Does anyone know if such a JavaScript module exists that could be
    used, or if anyone's working on such a thing, or would be willing to
    take on this kind of project that could be used in a fairly modular
    way so that one could tie it into their email/netmail system to be
    able to look up an address and show the node information so someone
    trying to send mail to the destination can see and verify that it's
    going to where they'd expect?

    I'd be curious to see such a thing, and I'm not, personally, yet
    fully capable of programming it, but I plan to as I get more
    in-depth into learning.

    There already is a program called FNL-Scan that will do that but it's abandonedware and unregistered will only do one FTN network. I run it here but it does have a few short-comings.

    Hmmm.. A program, unregistered, etc? This doesn't sound like JavaScript at all, more like a door, which is not what I'm asking for at all. :)

    I'm actually asking for a JavaScript, so that I could tie it in with my existing system that, during sending netmail to an obvious FTN style address, it can do a lookup and provide a summary.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@TEQUILAM to Psi-Jack on Monday, October 06, 2014 17:27:00
    On 10-06-14 15:31, Psi-Jack wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    On 10-06-14 11:44, Psi-Jack wrote to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_JavaScript

    Just curious if anyone has done anything like this, or is interested
    and capable.

    I'd like to be able to search and browse a FTN-style nodelist of
    some sort. Or multiple nodelist files for several networks would be
    most ideal.

    Does anyone know if such a JavaScript module exists that could be
    used, or if anyone's working on such a thing, or would be willing to
    take on this kind of project that could be used in a fairly modular
    way so that one could tie it into their email/netmail system to be
    able to look up an address and show the node information so someone
    trying to send mail to the destination can see and verify that it's
    going to where they'd expect?

    I'd be curious to see such a thing, and I'm not, personally, yet
    fully capable of programming it, but I plan to as I get more
    in-depth into learning.

    There already is a program called FNL-Scan that will do that but it's abandonedware and unregistered will only do one FTN network. I run it here but it does have a few short-comings.

    Hmmm.. A program, unregistered, etc? This doesn't sound like JavaScript
    at all, more like a door, which is not what I'm asking for at all. :)

    I'm actually asking for a JavaScript, so that I could tie it in with my existing system that, during sending netmail to an obvious FTN style address, it can do a lookup and provide a summary.

    I never said it was javascript but I did incorporate it into my mail menu where prople could could exceute it to look up an address by various searches... such as...

    FNLScan
    Copyright (c) 1993 by Stacy Smith

    Registered to: UNREGISTERED
    Serial number: 0000

    Press any key to continue...

    FNLScan Main Menu

    1) Search nodelist by BBS name
    2) Search nodelist by sysop name
    3) Search nodelist by city
    4) Search nodelist by area code
    5) Search nodelist by zone and net
    6) Search nodelist entries for text
    T) Toggle short/long node display mode
    H) Help on FNLScan
    Q) Quit to BBS

    It's a start for you.... :)


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  • From Mro@BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 00:35:19
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Bill McGarrity on Mon Oct 06 2014 03:31 pm

    Hmmm.. A program, unregistered, etc? This doesn't sound like JavaScript at all, more like a door, which is not what I'm asking for at all. :)

    I'm actually asking for a JavaScript, so that I could tie it in with my existing system that, during sending netmail to an obvious FTN style address, it can do a lookup and provide a summary.


    do you actually have that much of a need for such a thing?

    anyways, you could rig a script to wget the file, extract it and then grep+display text that the user requests.

    i suggest you rig your bbs to run the door bill suggested, seems like less hassle that way and seems to do what you want.

    also on the facebook fidonet group a guy posted a url to site that searches nodelists for text strings. you could always rig up something to scrape that.

    i've been running bbses since 1992-93 and only had a few people ever send netmails, aside from myself.
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  • From Psi-Jack@DECKHVN2 to Mro on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:22:24
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Bill McGarrity on Mon Oct 06 2014 03:31 pm

    Hmmm.. A program, unregistered, etc? This doesn't sound like JavaScript at all, more like a door, which is not what I'm asking for at all. :)

    I'm actually asking for a JavaScript, so that I could tie it in with my existing system that, during sending netmail to an obvious FTN style address, it can do a lookup and provide a summary.


    do you actually have that much of a need for such a thing?

    Yes, actually. I wouldn't even ask if I didn't. This is actually a standard, and VERY nice feature of Mystic BBS that is so neglected in BBS software,
    IMHO. Always has been, except to a select few BBS software.

    anyways, you could rig a script to wget the file, extract it and then grep+display text that the user requests.

    i suggest you rig your bbs to run the door bill suggested, seems like less hassle that way and seems to do what you want.

    also on the facebook fidonet group a guy posted a url to site that searches nodelists for text strings. you could always rig up something to scrape that.

    i've been running bbses since 1992-93 and only had a few people ever send netmails, aside from myself.


    Bleh.. I found some JavaScript code that can parse a nodelist file, it's just using node.js, so requires some porting to get it native to Synchronet.

    If nobody here is interested and more capable than I, I'll take on the project myself and do it.

    That project is here:
    https://github.com/Mithgol/node-fidonet-nodelist

    Looks cool, possible, just needs a good chunk of porting, but if done, only needs to be done once, then it can be used quite a lot in different ways since it provides the data in a usable object format.

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  • From Mro@BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 15:35:56
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Tue Oct 07 2014 11:22 am

    Yes, actually. I wouldn't even ask if I didn't. This is actually a
    standard, and VERY nice feature of Mystic BBS that is so neglected in BBS software, IMHO. Always has been, except to a select few BBS software.


    so where do i go on a mystic bbs to see this lookup feature?
    i'm on fluph and he updates mystic frequently and i dont see anything like that in the email section.
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  • From Psi-Jack@DECKHVN2 to Mro on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 07:41:09
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Mro to Psi-Jack on Tue Oct 07 2014 03:35 pm

    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Tue Oct 07 2014 11:22 am

    Yes, actually. I wouldn't even ask if I didn't. This is actually a
    standard, and VERY nice feature of Mystic BBS that is so neglected in
    BBS software, IMHO. Always has been, except to a select few BBS
    software.

    so where do i go on a mystic bbs to see this lookup feature?
    i'm on fluph and he updates mystic frequently and i dont see anything like that in the email section.

    Be in a NetMail message area, and send a netmail to an address, or at least start the process. Once you put in an FTN address, it'll look it up and display the information for you about the record related to the net address provided.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@TEQUILAM to Psi-Jack on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 09:51:00
    On 10-08-14 07:41, Psi-Jack wrote to Mro <=-


    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Tue Oct 07 2014 11:22 am

    Yes, actually. I wouldn't even ask if I didn't. This is actually a
    standard, and VERY nice feature of Mystic BBS that is so neglected in
    BBS software, IMHO. Always has been, except to a select few BBS
    software.

    so where do i go on a mystic bbs to see this lookup feature?
    i'm on fluph and he updates mystic frequently and i dont see anything like that in the email section.

    Be in a NetMail message area, and send a netmail to an address, or at least start the process. Once you put in an FTN address, it'll look it
    up and display the information for you about the record related to the
    net address provided.

    And if you don't have the 4D address then what? Your idea is certainly good but being I'm not a programmer (I dabble) and until you finally figure it out I'll stick with FNLScan as it does all I need. :)


    Bill

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  • From Android8675@SHODAN to Mro on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 08:33:12
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Mro to Psi-Jack on Tue Oct 07 2014 12:35 am

    I'm actually asking for a JavaScript, so that I could tie it in with
    my existing system that, during sending netmail to an obvious FTN
    style address, it can do a lookup and provide a summary.

    do you actually have that much of a need for such a thing?

    i suggest you rig your bbs to run the door bill suggested, seems like less hassle that way and seems to do what you want.

    also on the facebook fidonet group a guy posted a url to site that searches nodelists for text strings. you could always rig up something to scrape that.

    i've been running bbses since 1992-93 and only had a few people ever send netmails, aside from myself.

    Yeah, in fact I think somewhere in the Fidonet documentation they state that there's never been a reason/desire to have a netmail database of addresses. If you want to contact someone at a BBS they can give you an netmail address where they can be reached, and if you want to contact a system operator of a BBS you can usually address sysop@1:218/600, Synchronet will drop sysop emails to my box as do most BBSs.

    Here's a great webpage, you can enter the name of a Sysop and it'll list every node under that name. If you know the name of a Sysop you can probably find their board history here...

    http://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

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  • From Access Denied@PHARCYDE to Mro on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 16:30:44
    Hello Mro,

    On 07 Oct 14 15:35, Mro wrote to Psi-Jack:

    so where do i go on a mystic bbs to see this lookup feature?
    i'm on fluph and he updates mystic frequently and i dont see anything
    like that in the email section.

    You've been doing this (and bragging about it) for HOW LONG? Netmail and nodelists have absolutely NOTHING to do with email. Try again.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mro@BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 22:43:50
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Wed Oct 08 2014 07:41 am

    Be in a NetMail message area, and send a netmail to an address, or at least start the process. Once you put in an FTN address, it'll look it up and display the information for you about the record related to the net address provided.


    okay, now i see it. i expected it to be in the email menu.
    it's a pretty cool feature but i doubt it gets used by users.
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  • From Mro@BBSESINF to Android8675 on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 22:45:36
    Re: Re: JavaScript Nodelist Browser/Search
    By: Android8675 to Mro on Wed Oct 08 2014 08:33 am

    also on the facebook fidonet group a guy posted a url to site that searches nodelists for text strings. you could always rig up something to scrape that.

    Here's a great webpage, you can enter the name of a Sysop and it'll list every node under that name. If you know the name of a Sysop you can
    probably find their board history here...

    http://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/


    yep that's the site.
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