21 Sep 15 09:45, you wrote to me:

Have you confirmed that PKUNZIP or Infozips UNZIP cannot handle 7-ZIP
compressed files?

7-zip defaults to its 7z format... pkunzip can't recognize it
because the signature "7Z" is different than "PK"...

Thanks for the info. Of course I have noticed the first two characters
of ZIP-files but I can't recall having seen PK up there in the top left corner. "MZ" plus an additional character seem to be common in both
normal and PKLited files.

yes, MZ indicates one of the binary executable formats... there are several... PE is another one, IIRC... i think it indicates a type of windows executable...
here's a link to a page with a lot of file signatures and their offsets...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_file_signatures

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There are 64 bit versions of 7-zip, and 32 bit version of InfoZip. Both have ->command-line versions that should work in modern Windows.

There is a 64-bit version of InfoZIP's zip and unzip utilities for Windows as well.



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In a message dated 09-20-15, Dale Shipp said to Holger Granholm:

Good morning Dale,

Have now been told of the setting to force 7z to use PK format.

Yes, I've seen that and saved the info.

Have you confirmed that PKUNZIP or Infozips UNZIP cannot handle 7-ZIP

Yes. Without the -t parameter, 7-zip compresses using its own 7z
format. The header is not even recognized by PKUNZIP. Don't know
about unzip at this time.

I'll follow the evaluation <BG>.

That project is on hold while I try to solve some other problems
caused by migrating from Win XP to Win 10.

I do also have that step ahead of me by updating my work machine from
WIN 7 to 10 but luckily I run my other machines under OS/2.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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Re: PKZIP for Win 7

There are 64 bit versions of 7-zip, and 32 bit version of InfoZip. Both have command-line versions that should work in modern Windows.

The problem isn't the archivers...I have too many legacy 16-bit programs (including BBS doors) that won't work on Windows 10. So far, in testing
things, they seem to work under Windows 7, so that's as far as I'm going, OS wise...whether or not Micr0$0ft likes it or not.

Daryl

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Re: PKZIP for Win 7
By: Daryl Stout to Kurt Weiske on Wed Sep 23 2015 10:36 am

The problem isn't the archivers...I have too many legacy 16-bit programs (including BBS doors) that won't work on Windows 10. So far, in testing things, they seem to work under Windows 7, so that's as far as I'm going, OS wise...whether or not Micr0$0ft likes it or not.

Yeah, I mentioned before that I'm considering going back to 7, or at the most 8.1 with Start Menu 8. I like to use by desktop running VM as a BBS host, either as a backup for my BBS box or full-time, and I just don't have enough of a comfort level in Windows 10 for various reasons, including its automatic patching/rebooting.
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On 09-23-15 10:36, Daryl Stout <=-
spoke to Kurt Weiske about PKZIP for Win 7 <=-

Re: PKZIP for Win 7

There are 64 bit versions of 7-zip, and 32 bit version of InfoZip. Both have command-line versions that should work in modern Windows.

The problem isn't the archivers...I have too many legacy 16-bit
programs (including BBS doors) that won't work on Windows 10. So far,
in testing things, they seem to work under Windows 7, so that's as far
as I'm going, OS wise...whether or not Micr0$0ft likes it or not.

Actually, my legacy 16-bit programs do not work in my version (64-bit)
of windows 7. Much of my BBS system does work there -- Maximus, Squish
and Argus work just fine now that I have switched out PKZIP for the
infozip programs zip and unzip. I'm also able to run some other 16-bit programs using a modified version of DOSBOX called vDOS. It even allows
me to send a print file to an application (I use editpad lite, but
notepad would work equally well). The only thing that I cannot make
work perfectly is my BlueWave reader. It works, but the vDOS version
messes with the time stamp on the files. Hence, I am now running
Bluewave in Win XP in a virtual window.

The virtual window did not seem to work well for Argus -- it kept
dropping internet connectivity, but as I said Argus runs in Win 7 now.

Dale Shipp
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There are 64 bit versions of 7-zip, and 32 bit version of InfoZip.
Both have command-line versions that should work in modern Windows.
The problem isn't the archivers...I have too many legacy 16-bit
programs (including BBS doors) that won't work on Windows 10. So far,
in testing things, they seem to work under Windows 7, so that's as
far as I'm going, OS wise...whether or not Micr0$0ft likes it or not.

I am running the 32 bit version of windows 10 on a virtual machine its not
that bad right now. I am going to try and run several doors on it before i
open the bbs to the public.

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Re: Re: PKZIP for Win 7

Kurt,

The 16-bit works under 32-bit, but NOT 64-bit. I've got WinRAR to handle
all my archives now...and am debating convering the entire filebase from ZIP and ARJ to RAR...although hard drive space is not an issue.

Daryl

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Re: Re: PKZIP for Win 7

I am running the 32 bit version of windows 10 on a virtual machine its not that bad right now. I am going to try and run several doors on it before i open the bbs to the public.

I want to see if everything works right in Windows 7 32-bit, before even considering going to Windows 10. For that matter, if Windows 10 only has 64-bit, the discussion is CLOSED.


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Daryl Stout (1:19/33) Sun Sep 27 18:24:04 2015
even considering going to Windows 10. For that matter, if Windows 10
only has 64-bit, the discussion is CLOSED.

im running the 32 bit in a virtual machine right now.

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On 09-27-15 18:23, Daryl Stout <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: PKZIP for Win 7 <=-

The 16-bit works under 32-bit, but NOT 64-bit. I've got WinRAR to
handle all my archives now...and am debating convering the entire
filebase from ZIP and ARJ to RAR...although hard drive space is not an issue.

I ended up deciding on zip and unzip from infozip, using command line arguments. They work fine, and produce a format that would be
complatible with PKZIP if that becomes necessary.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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Daryl Stout (1:19/33) Sun Sep 27 18:24:04 2015
even considering going to Windows 10. For that matter, if Windows 10 only has 64-bit, the discussion is CLOSED.

im running the 32 bit in a virtual machine right now.

I was not too pleased with the Upgrade to Win 10 on my Laptop but
decided to also do the Desktop, After making a clone drive of win 7 in
case I decided to go back.

I am totally unhappy with the new File Explorier.
Any suggestions form those here for something close to the Win 7 file explorier.

Typo tom
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TOM WALKER (1:123/140) Tue Sep 29 08:10:00 2015
I am totally unhappy with the new File Explorier. Any suggestions
form those here for something close to the Win 7 file explorier.

try the xyplorer program.

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On 2015-09-19 8:29 AM, Kurt Weiske -> Alan Zisman wrote:

Alan Zisman wrote to mark lewis <=-

I've got a new HP Stream 11 - shipped with Win 8.1 and has been
upgraded to Win 10. It came with 7-Zip pre-installed, which seems

to be

working just fine with these newer Windows version.

Does the Windows 10 upgrade take up any more disk space once it's upgraded? Like the Stream 11, they're very tempting.

Upgrading an earlier version, Win10 archives the previous version and saves
it in an OldWindows folder which is automatically removed after 30 days.

Being short of space - 32 GB SSD - I used the Windows Cleanup utility to remove
it right after installation. Once that was done, the Win10 installation seemed about the same size as the original Win 8.1 one.

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TOM WALKER (1:123/140) Tue Sep 29 08:10:00 2015
I am totally unhappy with the new File Explorier. Any suggestions
form those here for something close to the Win 7 file explorier.

try the xyplorer program.

Looks like what I am looking for, thanks

Typo Tom
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