Hello Everybody,

FoxNews Poll

2020 Presidential Vote Preference
August 11-13, 2019
Registered Voters, +/- 3%

Joe Biden 50%
Donald Trump 38%

Bernie Sanders 48%
Donald Trump 39%

Elizabeth Warren 46%
Donald Trump 39%

Kamala Harris 45%
Donald Trump 39%

You want to know who really
knocks the socks off Donald Trump?

Barack Hussein Obama.

Among all voters, he has the highest rating of all.
60% favorable, 37% unfavorable.

So. There you go. The biggest loser gets
to pick his poison. Or rather, the Democrats
will do it for him.

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Re: Loser
By: Lee Lofaso to All on Sat Aug 17 2019 05:05 am

Nice trolling :-)

I could not care less for US politics, but sincerely, those poll results would be more impressive if Trump had been smashed during the presidential election. Which he was not.

I have seen polls missfire so often that I have learnt they are good for entertainment only.

Hello Richard,

Nice trolling :-)

Thank you. :)

I could not care less for US politics, but sincerely, those poll results
would be more impressive if Trump had been smashed during the presidential election. Which he was not.

Hillary Clinton received almost 3 million more popular votes
than her nearest opponent, whose name I seem to have forgotten.

I have seen polls missfire so often that I have learnt they are good for
entertainment only.

Not even the legendary James Carville was able to predict that
Hillary Clinton would win by such a wide margin ...

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Hello Everybody,

The World's Biggest Loser is -

A one-term president, never gaining the support of a majority
of voters in his last election, projected to lose big in the next
election. With poll numbers collapsing this early, it is becoming
questionable if he will even win the state of Utah ...

TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

Source: CNN

The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political
asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful
economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.

The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic
defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by
Oxford Economics predicted.

Read more:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/business/economy-election-trump-biden -jobs/index.html

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Am 21 May 20 21:08:44 schrob Lee Lofaso an All zum Thema
<Loser>

The World's Biggest Loser is -
A one-term president, never gaining the support of a majority
of voters in his last election, projected to lose big in the next
election.

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.



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Hello Gerhard,

<Loser>

The World's Biggest Loser is -
A one-term president, never gaining the support of a majority
of voters in his last election, projected to lose big in the next
election.

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.

Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.

George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.

George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.

Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

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Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-

TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

Source: CNN

Ah, so in other words, Fake News.

The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful
economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.

Unemployment mainly caused by DEMOCRAT Governors (like our VP wannabee here in Michigan) who keeps the state locked down based on NO science and questionable legality.

Yes, this will be remembered come election day. You can bet on that.

The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic
defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by Oxford Economics predicted.

*Laugh* In related news, the "RNC maintains massive fundraising edge over DNC". (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/04/rnc-maintains-massive-fundraising-edge-over-dnc/)

Polls are useless. Where people spend their money tells a far truer story. Of course, compared to CNN, news from any other source is truer.


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Hello Ron,

TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

Source: CNN

Ah, so in other words, Fake News.

Even Fox News is reporting the same thing as CNN.

The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political >LL>asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful >LL>economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking >LL>reelection.

Unemployment mainly caused by DEMOCRAT Governors (like our VP wannabee here
in Michigan) who keeps the state locked down based on NO science and questionable legality.

Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the
governor of a state might be.

Yes, this will be remembered come election day. You can bet on that.

Let's not forget about those who vote absentee, and by mail.

The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic >LL>defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by >LL>Oxford Economics predicted.

*Laugh* In related news, the "RNC maintains massive fundraising edge over >DNC".
(https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/04/rnc-maintains-massive-fundraising-edge-over-dnc/)

Oh, I have no doubt the Republican Party would love to buy (or steal)
the election. And their favored candidate would love to rig the results
so that only he can "win".

Polls are useless.

Maybe that's his plan. Kill off as many people through COVID-19,
and then "postpone" the election indefinitely. That would work,
wouldn't it? So many people, willing to die for him ...

Where people spend their money tells a far truer story.

What money? They'll either all be dead, or unemployed.

Of course, compared to CNN, news from any other source is truer.

Oxford Economics is in England. Doesn't have a bone to pick with
Trump, or any other US politician.

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Am 22 May 20 15:10:58 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
<Loser>

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.

Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

Did Bush even run for a third term?
Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during WWII.



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Hello Gerhard,

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.

Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

Good always comes after bad.
Except when it doesn't.
Such as when things go from bad to worse ...

Did Bush even run for a third term?

The first Bush never made it to a second term. The second Bush
was never allowed to even try to make it to a third term. Not that
it mattered, since he would not have been able to win anyway.

note: the 22nd amendment limits a president to serving two
consecutive terms.

Licoln got re-elected during civil war.

And was shot dead shortly into his second term.
The assassin, John Wilkes Booth, escaped to Mexico.
A few years ago, a judge ordered the body of John
Wilkes Booth to be exhumed (he was thought to have
been buried in the northeast part of the US). But
when the gravesite was opened, there was no body.
What happened to the body? It was stolen.

The same thing happened to Benito Mussolini.
So body snatching is not a new thing, and not
just among Americans. Italians do it too.

Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during WWII.

Roosevelt died in office shortly after winning his fourth term,
supposedly of a stroke. The entire nation was in shock, as everybody
had thought he was in perfect health. Some conspiracy theorists
suggest that FDR was poisoned by Winston Churchill, but no proof
or evidence seems to be available for analysis ...

--Lee

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On 05-23-20 08:36, Gerhard Strangar <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Loser <=-

Am 22 May 20 15:10:58 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum
Thema <Loser>

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.

Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

Did Bush even run for a third term?

Not allowed these days.

Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during
WWII.

Bad times => not reelected.
War times => yes reelected.

Dale Shipp
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(1:261/1466)

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Hello Dale,

Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.

Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

Did Bush even run for a third term?

Not allowed these days.

At the end of his second term in office, President Obama made
some comments to the news media about this subject. As a former
constitutional law professor, and a sitting president, he knew
quite a bit about the US Constitution and the 22nd Amendment.

According to Obama, if he would run for a third term he would win.
It would not matter what the US Constitution or the 22nd Amendment
said, because the courts (including the USSC) would not go against
the will of the people. IOW, if the people voted for him, there
would be no ruling against him from taking office for a third term.

This was just an academic exercize, as Obama had no actual plans
to run for a third consecutive term. He was just toying with the news
media, kind of like what trolls do in message boards.

Of course, Barack Obama is free to be elected vice president ...
and then assume the duties of being president later on.

Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during >GS>WWII.

Bad times => not reelected.
War times => yes reelected.

Donald Trump has declared himself as being a "wartime president".
Problem is, the pandemic is winning. With no end in sight.

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

Even Fox News is reporting the same thing as CNN.

You are making the usual Leftie assumption that the only news is the news you get from the Media. CNN and Fox are the same: Media. They care first and foremost about eyeballs, not facts. Fox just decided to differentiate themselves by not following the Leftie Narrative. Neither CNN or Fox are particularily trustworthy - but Fox hasn't been caught lieing nearly as much as CNN.

Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the
governor of a state might be.

Leftie redirection again. Unemployment is HIGHER in those states controlled by a Tyrant... er.. Democrat governor.

Oh, I have no doubt the Republican Party would love to buy (or steal)
the election. And their favored candidate would love to rig the results
so that only he can "win".

*sigh* I see you still aren't taking your medication for TDS.

What money? They'll either all be dead, or unemployed.

I see that you completely missed (well, that's not true, you probably just chose to ignore) my information on DNC vs. RNC funding. Where people put their money is a far truer indicator of who they SAY they will vote for.

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On 27 May 2020 at 09:11a, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

You are making the usual Leftie assumption that the only news is the
news you get from the Media. CNN and Fox are the same: Media. They
care first and foremost about eyeballs, not facts. Fox just decided to differentiate themselves by not following the Leftie Narrative. Neither CNN or Fox are particularily trustworthy - but Fox hasn't been caught lieing nearly as much as CNN.

Haha. Verifiable lies on Fox are double-digit percentage
points higher than on CNN. https://www.politifact.com/article/2015/jan/27/msnbc-fox-cnn-move-needle-our-tr uth-o-meter-scorec/

Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the governor of a state might be.

Leftie redirection again. Unemployment is HIGHER in those states controlled by a Tyrant... er.. Democrat governor.

Not true, or at least misleading. Red state economies
are almost universally worse-off than their Blue state
counterparts. While unemployment may be higher in some
Blue states, in general people in red states are
underemployed and almost enjoy more economic support
from the federal government. Put another way, the
blue states subsidize the red states.

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Hello Ron,

Even Fox News is reporting the same thing as CNN.

You are making the usual Leftie assumption that the only news is the news
you get from the Media.

All news is fake news? My, my. How deluded can that be?

CNN and Fox are the same: Media.

What about CBS? And NBC? And ABC? And all the other news outlets?
Are those "fake news" as well? Or is it only Trump News that counts?

They care first and foremost about eyeballs, not facts.

Okay. Facts don't matter. Only what Trump claims. Whether whatever
he claims is true or not, only Trump's version of the truth is what
really matters, or counts for anything at all.

Fox just decided to differentiate themselves by not following the Leftie
Narrative.

So now we have the Fox narrative, the CNN narrative, the Leftie
narrative, and god knows how many other fake narratives, along with
the Trump narrative.

Neither CNN or Fox are particularily trustworthy - but Fox hasn't been
caught lieing nearly as much as CNN.

Oh. Fox is just as guilty of spewing "fake news" as everybody else,
but since it hasn't been caught as much as any other "fake news" outlet
that makes Fox more trustworthy. Gotcha.

Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the
governor of a state might be.

Leftie redirection again.

Golly gee. I thought unemployment was at 14% and climbing nationwide.
Not just among states that have a Democrat as governor. But then, I
don't watch Fox News ...

Unemployment is HIGHER in those states controlled by a Tyrant... er..
Democrat governor.

The virus does not care what party affiliation a governor might be.
All it cares is to infect whoever is vulnerable to get infected.
That is what viruses do. It is their call to duty. And it will not
stop until there is nobody else left that it can infect.

Oh, I have no doubt the Republican Party would love to buy (or steal) >LL>the election. And their favored candidate would love to rig the results >LL>so that only he can "win".

*sigh* I see you still aren't taking your medication for TDS.

I am allergic to orange make-up.
Maybe that qualifies me for disability.
Or perhaps get me elected POTUS.
Either way, I don't want to find out.

What money? They'll either all be dead, or unemployed.

I see that you completely missed (well, that's not true, you probably just
chose to ignore) my information on DNC vs. RNC funding.

The RNC has no shortage of funds to support their petulant child.

Where people put their money is a far truer indicator of who they SAY they
will vote for.

Republicans outspend Democrats for president.
But in most cases, Democrats win.
Only once in over a century has an incumbent Democrat
lost his bid to win a second term (Jimmy Carter).
In four out of the past five elections, the Democratic
candidate has won more popular votes than the Republican
candidate, despite being outspent.

Hillary Clinton received almost 3 million more votes
than Donald J. Trump in the last election. I fully expect
Joe Biden to receive well over 10 million more votes
than Donald J. Trump this coming November, and win the
electoral college by a substantial margin.

Regardless of how much the RNC spends on its petulant child.

--Lee

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On 05-27-20 09:11, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Loser <=-

I see that you completely missed (well, that's not true, you probably
just chose to ignore) my information on DNC vs. RNC funding.
Where people put their
money is a far truer indicator of who they SAY they will vote for.

What you are missing is data on *WHO* is contributing to the DNC and the
RNC. Much of the RNC money comes from big super pacs and billionaires
who hope to elect a party that will help pad their coffers. I would
speculate that if you looked at the number of contributors, you might
find that the Republicans are out numbered.

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