• Trump is ok with Russian bounties on US troops

    From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to All on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 00:32:42
    Apparently he was briefed in March.

    But...big daddy Putin needs pleasin' so he's
    ok with the Russians paying bounties for American
    heads in Afghanistan. I'm sure Lee Lofaso is ok
    with that, too.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Monday, June 29, 2020 14:46:16
    heads in Afghanistan. I'm sure Lee Lofaso is ok
    with that, too.

    Lee's on your side; he's an ex-military Democrat. You can call him General
    Lee, he probably won't mind.

    Trump is pro-military. If the story is true, then he will make Russia pay.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Dan Cross on Monday, June 29, 2020 21:14:00
    Dan Cross wrote to All <=-

    Apparently he was briefed in March.

    But...big daddy Putin needs pleasin' so he's
    ok with the Russians paying bounties for American
    heads in Afghanistan. I'm sure Lee Lofaso is ok
    with that, too.

    At this point, it's fair to say yall lefties will believe ANYTHING the oldstream press tells you. They're lucky you exist. Without people like you, they'd be in serious trouble. Here here to capitalism.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 19:15:10
    Hello Aaron,

    Lee's on your side; he's an ex-military Democrat. You can call him General
    Lee, he probably won't mind.

    The General Lee was the finest car I ever had. Until the Dukes
    of Hazzard got hold of it. Next time I saw it was some twenty plus
    years later when the Duke boys (and Daisy) took a trip in it to
    a small town in Louisiana.

    Trump is pro-military. If the story is true, then he will make Russia pay.

    Really? What is he going to have Russia pay with? Rubles that
    can only be spent in Russia? Hillary Clinton was right. Trump is
    Putin's puppet. The man got his money to run his empire from
    Russian mobsters. What this is all about is payback. Russians
    are collecting what is owed to them by their client.

    It is going to be fun auditing his tax records. Loads of fun.
    Unfortunately, we still have to wait another six months before
    getting started.

    Presidential hopeful Joe Biden said reports about the orange menace
    (Trump) knowing about the Russian bounties and choosing to do nothing
    would be a "truly shocking revelation" about the C-in-C's failure
    to protect US troops in Afghanistan, along with his failure to stand
    up to Russia.

    What is Trump going to do now? Call the NYT's article "fake news"?

    Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), No. 3 Republican in the House, called
    on the White House to give the Congress more information on the
    subject, saying lawmakers need to know "Who did know and when?"
    - and also referred to Vladimir Putin, "What has been done in
    response to protect our forces & hold Putin accountable?"

    Imagine that. The daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney calling
    Donald Trump out, making her daddy proud!

    Donald Trump is feigning ignorance, claiming he did not know.
    Claims he was never briefed on this by his own intelligence, or
    by anybody else. Nixonian "I am not a crook!" kind of guy.

    The intelligence assessments were given to Trump in February.
    Part of his daily briefings. John Bolton claims he was verbally
    briefed on this in 2019, but could not comment or write about
    it in his book due to national security concerns.

    Russia called the report "nonsense" -

    "This unsophisticated plant clearly illustrates the low intellectual
    abilities of the propagandists of American intelligence, who instead
    of inventing something more plausible have to make up this nonsense."
    ~ Russian Foreign Ministry

    Taliban militants also "strongly reject this allegation" and are
    not "indebted to the beneficence of any organ or foreign country."

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi told ABC's "This Week" that she had not been
    informed about the bounties and has requested the White House give
    a report to Congress on the matter.

    "This is as bad as it gets, and yet the president will not confront
    the Russians on this score, denies being briefed. Whether he is or not,
    his administration knows and our allies -- some of our allies who work
    with us in Afghanistan had been briefed accept this report."
    ~ Nancy Pelosi

    Keep in mind that the daily briefings on this matter were given to
    Donald Trump in February. As well as to others, such as Chuck Schumer,
    and Nancy Pelosi, and the list goes on. Embarrassing. Everybody knew
    about this and kept quiet. Why? These daily briefings are 50-60 pages,
    and no politician has the time to read them each and every day. That
    is what aides are for.

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 09:34:47
    On 29 Jun 2020 at 02:46p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Lee's on your side;

    Nah. He accused me of war crimes.

    he's an ex-military Democrat.

    Stolen valor's a bitch for Trump supporters, isn't it?

    You can call him
    General Lee, he probably won't mind.

    Well, he likes that savage Columbus, so I'm not surprised.

    Trump is pro-military. If the story is true, then he will make Russia
    pay.

    No. Trump is anti-military. He'll roll over like a dog
    for Putin again. He's known about this for MONTHS and
    done nothing.

    Don't ever presume to talk about being "pro military"
    again if you're a Trump supporter, nor to even mention
    the word "Benghazi."

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Daniel on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 09:36:43
    On 29 Jun 2020 at 09:14p, Daniel pondered and said...

    At this point, it's fair to say yall lefties will believe ANYTHING the oldstream press tells you. They're lucky you exist. Without people like you, they'd be in serious trouble.

    And all of you right-wingers --- every last one --- are
    traitors and boot-lickers who get down on your knees for
    a draft-dodging pig with the blood of American troops on
    his hands. You hypocritical parasites disgust me with
    your faux patriotism and moralizing.

    Here here to capitalism.

    "Hear hear to Capitalism", but fuck the Troops, amirite?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 20:03:19
    It is going to be fun auditing his tax records. Loads of fun.

    His tax records won't take any longer than Obama's birth certificate took.

    Presidential hopeful Joe Biden said reports about the orange menace

    I will congratulate Joe Biden if Trump is proven guilty of having prior knowledge to the Russian bounties and not doing something about it, because that is the only leverage that sleazy Joe could dream to have in this
    election.

    The intelligence assessments were given to Trump in February.

    If that's the case, then who's to say that the president and/or others aren't already doing things to stop it, without announcing it?

    Let's hope Nancy clears everything up for all of us.

    I like Trump, but I don't really care if he wins or not. At this point, I've had a lousy time in NY thanks to the insane state government that we've got here, so I need to stay focused on those elections.

    People from both parties can cause damage sometimes. I've got lazy
    republicans and extremist democrats to contend with. America has a right to
    be divided. You can't blame Trump for it. We were divided on these topics way before he came along.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 20:16:41
    Don't ever presume to talk about being "pro military"
    again if you're a Trump supporter, nor to even mention
    the word "Benghazi."

    I know dozens of vets who are Trump supporters. You can't speak for the
    entire military.

    Obama's skeleton collection won't even fit in a closet, so there's no need to bring up Benghazi.

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  • From Benjamin Toussaint@2:240/8001.19 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 11:12:00
    I like Trump, but I don't really care if he wins or not. At this point, I've had a lousy time in NY thanks to the insane state government that we've got here, so I need to stay focused on those elections.

    How can one possibly think that this clown is a good president?

    From the first day he behaved like a kid. He created the term "Altenative Facts" when he (and his staff) were caught lying.

    Yes, he creates an entertaining reality show, but the damage he causes
    hits the actual reality not a television version.

    The real problem I see in the US (and increasingly in Europe) is what you said in your last paragraph: extremists. You can either vote for some dumb figure proposing easy solutions for complex matters. This certainly
    impresses the toothless racist chimps watching NASCAR races while
    polishing their rifles. Or you vote for those, that these people call "snowflakes" trying to introduce a world where success is a matter of application and everyone will have to become as equal as forcively
    possible.

    Both worlds are a nightmare to me. The most favorable system can be found
    in between as we used to have in Germany and France before. Introducing a social system where the state provides everything that everybody needs
    (food, water, housing, health care, education) if necessary.
    But on the other hand leaves control over the rest of your life and your success to you. No fear, no forced equality, but equal *chances*.

    So long...

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, July 02, 2020 00:44:35
    On 30 Jun 2020 at 08:16p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Don't ever presume to talk about being "pro military"
    again if you're a Trump supporter, nor to even mention
    the word "Benghazi."

    I know dozens of vets who are Trump supporters. You can't speak for the entire military.

    I'm sure you know dozens of POGs who spent time CONUS
    or were fobbits. Congratulations.

    Obama's skeleton collection won't even fit in a closet, so there's no
    need to bring up Benghazi.

    Liar. You right-wing sheep have been bleating about
    Benghazi for years now. Well, Trump's got something
    way worse than that. When can we expect HIM to sit
    for 11 hours on the House floor under questioning?

    You -- yes, you specifically, but all who share your
    vile ideology -- are members of a death cult. You're
    also all hypocrites.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Benjamin Toussaint on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 11:15:37
    How can one possibly think that this clown is a good president?

    I like him because he's on the same side of issues as me, and he cares more about the US economy than foreign economies, which is more than I can say
    about the previous 3 presidents. Clowning around is ok as long as work comes first.

    From the first day he behaved like a kid. He created the term
    "Altenative Facts" when he (and his staff) were caught lying.

    The media can't be trusted. We've seen them twist the truth to hurt the president dozens if not hundreds of times. One of the most irritating
    examples is the asian lady from CBS asking the president something, and his answer was "Go ask China" and she was like "Why? Because I'm asian?"

    Or he opens the coal industry back up, which was somewhat closed due to
    health concerns, then the media starts saying stuff like "More coal related deaths expected as Trump re-opens the coal industry." <- That's fake news.

    Democrats own the media. The only explanation for all the negative media coverage of Trump is that the media seeks to elect a Democrat this year.

    Our media is similar to that of North Korea. They have an agenda, and the agenda is not to report the news.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 11:34:03
    I know dozens of vets who are Trump supporters. You can't speak for t entire military.

    I'm sure you know dozens of POGs who spent time CONUS
    or were fobbits. Congratulations.

    I'm talking about WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq veterans. Thanks for
    the jargon lesson, but those words are too big for my Trump supporting brain.

    Liar. You right-wing sheep have been bleating about
    Benghazi for years now. Well, Trump's got something

    Whatever way you look at the Benghazi mishap, it made Hillary unfit for the Oval Office through the eyes of voters. We don't vote for people with a
    history of ignoring life-saving phone calls or a history of keeping
    classified information on a GoDaddy server.

    You -- yes, you specifically, but all who share your
    vile ideology -- are members of a death cult. You're
    also all hypocrites.

    What's vile about me siding with war veterans who support Trump? Hillary & Obama let Syrians gas children for years. Within months of Trump's presidency he put a foot in their asses for it. The spirits of the dead are still
    waiting for your Democrats to step in and help.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, July 02, 2020 04:42:08
    On 01 Jul 2020 at 11:15a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    How can one possibly think that this clown is a good president?

    I like him because he's on the same side of issues as me, and he cares more about the US economy than foreign economies, which is more than I
    can say about the previous 3 presidents. Clowning around is ok as long
    as work comes first.

    ...but you're cool with him throwing American troops' lives
    away as long as Putin doesn't get called out.

    Real patriots see where you stand.

    The media can't be trusted. We've seen them twist the truth to hurt the president dozens if not hundreds of times. One of the most irritating examples is the asian lady from CBS asking the president something, and his answer was "Go ask China" and she was like "Why? Because I'm asian?"

    the Right-wing and Trump cannot be trusted, because they're
    lying, amoral traitors to the country and our Constitution.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, July 02, 2020 04:45:28
    On 01 Jul 2020 at 11:34a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    I know dozens of vets who are Trump supporters. You can't speak entire military.

    I'm sure you know dozens of POGs who spent time CONUS
    or were fobbits. Congratulations.

    I'm talking about WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq veterans. Thanks for the jargon lesson, but those words are too big for my Trump
    supporting brain.

    In other words, "a bunch of POGs who've never been outside
    the wire told me they like the way Trump talks."

    Liar. You right-wing sheep have been bleating about
    Benghazi for years now. Well, Trump's got something

    Whatever way you look at the Benghazi mishap, it made Hillary unfit for the Oval Office through the eyes of voters. We don't vote for people
    with a history of ignoring life-saving phone calls or a history of
    keeping classified information on a GoDaddy server.

    This is so ironic. Trump and his family have done all of that
    TIMES 10, but you still mindlessly support him.

    THAT's why I find you vile.

    You, and all the rest of the Right-wing, are hypocrites and
    liars.

    What's vile about me siding with war veterans who support Trump? Hillary
    & Obama let Syrians gas children for years. Within months of Trump's presidency he put a foot in their asses for it. The spirits of the dead are still waiting for your Democrats to step in and help.

    Trump pulled out troops out of Syria and let Assad continue
    his atrocities against the civilian population.

    Your lies are so transparently obvious.

    Admit it: you support Trump because you see yourself in him
    and like how he "sticks it to the libs." You'll gladly ride
    the train right off the tracks at the end of the crumbling
    bridge with him.

    Good riddance in November.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Dan Cross on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 19:58:00
    Dan Cross wrote to Daniel <=-

    On 29 Jun 2020 at 09:14p, Daniel pondered and said...

    At this point, it's fair to say yall lefties will believe ANYTHING the oldstream press tells you. They're lucky you exist. Without people like you, they'd be in serious trouble.

    And all of you right-wingers --- every last one --- are

    Out with elipses, in with clustered dashes. Heh.

    traitors and boot-lickers who get down on your knees for
    a draft-dodging pig with the blood of American troops on
    his hands. You hypocritical parasites disgust me with
    your faux patriotism and moralizing.

    Give me a minute to savor this.

    The seething vitriol is predictable and not-the-least shocking. I forgot to say that the long-held lie about the left being enlightened and inclusive was laid to rest some time ago. The left is racist and hateful at a level I never imagined possible. Modern times have exposed this. Don't let it consume you brother.

    "Hear hear to Capitalism", but fuck the Troops, amirite?

    You say that with such ferver. Almost a religion.

    I'm delighted the left is tearing itself apart. I have high hopes we get the house back in November. A number of congressman on the D side should be arrested. Unfortunately, it may take too long to peel back the onion skin layers
    of corruption to expose them in any meaningful way.

    Anyway, like the russian collusion hoax (now being exposed as the conspiracy
    to commit fraud that it was), this hit-squad hoax is another one to mark.

    When we get power back in the house, it'll be years of investigations and I predict the deep level of corruption will shock the most ardent supporters of the left.

    Trump 2020

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 20:57:03
    ...but you're cool with him throwing American troops' lives
    away as long as Putin doesn't get called out.

    Do you believe everything the NY Post has to say?

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  • From Benjamin Toussaint@2:240/8001.19 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, July 02, 2020 09:34:00
    How can one possibly think that this clown is a good president?

    I like him because he's on the same side of issues as me, and he cares more about the US economy than foreign economies, which is more than I can say about the previous 3 presidents. Clowning around is ok as long as work comes first.

    Do you derive this from his 2-word-phrases like "America First"? The only thing that was "good for the economy" was money on loan that boosted
    stocks - most likely those he and his family hold.

    From the first day he behaved like a kid. He created the term
    "Altenative Facts" when he (and his staff) were caught lying.

    The media can't be trusted. We've seen them twist the truth to hurt the president dozens if not hundreds of times

    Fogive me, but this is bullshit.

    . One of the most irritating
    examples is the asian lady from CBS asking the president something, and his answer was "Go ask China" and she was like "Why? Because I'm asian?"

    Yes, that certainly proves that media cannot be trusted. Easy issue, easy thinking, easy voting. A problem of twitter democracy, but the world
    cannot be explained in 180 characters.

    Or he opens the coal industry back up, which was somewhat closed due to health concerns, then the media starts saying stuff like "More coal related deaths expected as Trump re-opens the coal industry." <- That's fake news.

    No, that is a fact. I happen to live in an area close to several coal
    power plants. Health really became less of an issue as soon as those were taken down. It is not at all as we have a good health care system here.

    Democrats own the media.

    Not our media. And certainly not the public media. Usually you do not get
    to work in the media when believing "alternative facts"

    The only explanation for all the negative media
    coverage of Trump is that the media seeks to elect a Democrat this year.

    The only explanation for the negative media all over the world is, that
    Trump is simply an idiot.

    Our media is similar to that of North Korea. They have an agenda, and the agenda is not to report the news.

    That is, again, simply bullshit you retweet. But it enables Trump
    followers to believe any bullshit they want to believe.

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  • From Benjamin Toussaint@2:240/8001.19 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:02:00
    ...but you're cool with him throwing American troops' lives
    away as long as Putin doesn't get called out.
    Do you believe everything the NY Post has to say?

    It's not just them. And it is hardly likely that "Democrats own all the media" including those in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Australia,
    Canada, Chile and Argentina.

    Especially those who try their best only to report fact-checked
    information as free from bias as possible, have merely said, the
    possibility of Trump knowing about this is currently being investigated. ("Der Spiegel", Germany)

    So I believe it is you, who should not believe every brain fart this clown tweets.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Benjamin Toussaint on Thursday, July 02, 2020 09:47:22
    Do you derive this from his 2-word-phrases like "America First"? The
    only thing that was "good for the economy" was money on loan that
    boosted stocks - most likely those he and his family hold.

    It depends on what you call "good." If you scroll back, conservatives have posted lengthy lists of things Trump's administration has done for our
    economy. But instead of being grateful, you're taking 2 knees for Anderson Cooper.

    Not our media. And certainly not the public media. Usually you do not
    get to work in the media when believing "alternative facts"

    What's public media? Each news network is either left or right; none are neutral. Are you talking about publicly broadcast media like CBS/NBC/etc?
    They all chose sides too. Telemundo even choses sides - and they are the
    fakest of all. They have illegal immigrants to appeal to - so it wouldn't
    help them much if they said anything good about Trump.

    The only explanation for the negative media all over the world is, that Trump is simply an idiot.

    Who's the idiot? The president, or thousands of people who live their lives in negativity because of the things he said?

    If you hate Trump, be glad about term limits. It's just a phase. We'll all be sucking up to China & Iran again some day, just be patient & have your money ready.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Daniel on Friday, July 03, 2020 01:26:48
    On 01 Jul 2020 at 07:58p, Daniel pondered and said...

    [driven deleted]

    Wow, the projection and denial is STRONG with you, isn't it?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, July 03, 2020 01:27:15
    On 01 Jul 2020 at 08:57p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Do you believe everything the NY Post has to say?

    You know that fish-wrapper is a pro-Trump right-wing
    rag, right?

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  • From Benjamin Toussaint@2:240/8001.19 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, July 03, 2020 14:58:00
    Do you derive this from his 2-word-phrases like "America First"? The
    only thing that was "good for the economy" was money on loan that
    boosted stocks - most likely those he and his family hold.

    It depends on what you call "good." If you scroll back, conservatives have posted lengthy lists of things Trump's administration has done for our economy. But instead of being grateful, you're taking 2 knees for Anderson Cooper.

    If you reduce it to boost stocks by taking loans which means on the longer run reducing purchasing power in general, then yes you could make a few republicans happy for a couple of months or years.
    But as the great Henry Ford taught us: the even larger part of a working economy, the one that made America so successful is, that people were able
    to afford the cars they produced. Trump ignored it resp. possesses no knowledge of such things with so many letters, but yet enough shrewdness
    like his voters.
    That's his talent, make stupid people vote for him for things that
    influence their lives to the worse. No health insurance, less stability,
    less accessible education (best thing for a Trump).
    Again: easy false messages that are pleasant ("...builduh graaate wooool
    and make Magsiko pay forrid...").
    And now? 2 billion spent on that thing. No cent paid by Mexico. Illegal immigration on the highest levels since recording.
    But the hillbillies don't just not care - they do not believe this obvious fact.
    Trump's second weapon.

    Not our media. And certainly not the public media. Usually you do not
    get to work in the media when believing "alternative facts"

    What's public media? Each news network is either left or right; none are neutral. Are you talking about publicly broadcast media like CBS/NBC/etc?

    Luckily I consume media from many different countries and I work with data
    in a business environment. So I can understand facts that are more complex than "Great thing! Will make Uhmuhrica great again."
    Public media are those that are not run by private companies. In Germany
    the constitution guarantees that such media exist and must not be
    influenced by politics. Not perfect, but that makes them a reliable, since verifiable source of information (not opinion).
    Their coverage was just as distant and neutral regarding Trump as it was regarding Obama. Even when he started with his very first lie - just as
    many people had been there at his inauguration as at Obama's - they just quoted him and showed the recording that it was simply a stupid lie.
    But truly, the democrats have infiltrated the German media to produce fake news, right?

    They all chose sides too. Telemundo even choses sides - and they are the fakest of all. They have illegal immigrants to appeal to - so it wouldn't help them much if they said anything good about Trump.
    The German, French, Brazilian, African or Australian media have no benefit from talking bad about Trump. Yet they do, because that clown keeps saying and doing stupid stuff.
    Simple minded people only see the foreground messages he tweets - and
    believe them. I am asking myself how much of his school time someone has
    to spend asleep to fall for that.

    The only explanation for the negative media all over the world is, that BT>> Trump is simply an idiot.

    Who's the idiot? The president, or thousands of people who live their lives in negativity because of the things he said?
    Both.

    If you hate Trump, be glad about term limits. It's just a phase. We'll all
    be sucking up to China & Iran again some day, just be patient & have your money ready.

    Term limits are in fact a very good thing for the USA. I am not so fond of Biden either and wasn't of Hillary... yet, what this country, that still
    has my sympathy, needs now is someone reliable and smart. Trump is
    neither.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Dan Cross on Friday, July 03, 2020 05:40:00
    Dan Cross wrote to Daniel <=-

    On 01 Jul 2020 at 07:58p, Daniel pondered and said...

    [driven deleted]

    Wow, the projection and denial is STRONG with you, isn't it?

    You're the one throwing vitriol and seething hate and I called you out on
    it. It's all there in black and white. Then you attempted to turn it around on me. Of course, you've provided no debate. It was a quick and easy win.

    Let me level with you. You obviously hate Trump and that's fine. Regardless of how often the legacy press is exposed for lies and rage reporting, they'll always exist as long as their audience (you) believes every story
    explicitly. Your hatred for Trump is all they need and they're laughing all the way to the bank. You get gray hairs, and they get richer. They win, you lose.

    Trump 2020

    Daniel Traechin

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, July 04, 2020 08:36:22
    On 02 Jul 2020 at 09:47a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    It depends on what you call "good." If you scroll back, conservatives
    have posted lengthy lists of things Trump's administration has done for our economy. But instead of being grateful, you're taking 2 knees for Anderson Cooper.

    No. What we have seen, and continue to see, are conservative
    lies and appropriations of continuations of the previous
    administration's accomplishments.

    To the extent you sorry lot ever talk about original
    accomplishments on Trump's part, it's things like building
    concentration camps for children. Yeah, I don't view that
    as much of an "accomplishment", though you probably do.

    fakest of all. They have illegal immigrants to appeal to - so it wouldn't help them much if they said anything good about Trump.

    Racist shitbag.

    Who's the idiot? The president, or thousands of people who live their lives in negativity because of the things he said?

    Funny. I remember during the Obama administration the vitriol
    directed towards him.

    And it's still going on. Even now that Trump's been in power
    for almost 4 years, the anger and hatred directed towards the
    "left" is still visceral and regular. Have you ever read the
    comments section on Fox News? Or even seen the things that you
    guys write here on Fidonet? The quips about living in basements,
    everyone's an communist anarchist looter rioter?

    Hypocrite.

    If you hate Trump, be glad about term limits. It's just a phase. We'll
    all be sucking up to China & Iran again some day, just be patient & have your money ready.

    We're doing it right now. Trump sucks up to dictators.

    But many people are worried about Trump making a power play
    to seize dictatorial power.

    Tell me...if he does: will you stand against him? Or will
    you bend the knee to the death of America because it's your
    guy who did it?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Daniel on Saturday, July 04, 2020 14:28:16
    On 03 Jul 2020 at 05:40a, Daniel pondered and said...

    Trump 2020

    That's all we need to know about you.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Dan Cross on Monday, July 06, 2020 08:28:00
    Dan Cross wrote to Daniel <=-

    On 03 Jul 2020 at 05:40a, Daniel pondered and said...

    Trump 2020

    That's all we need to know about you.

    Yessir, that's right. I'm an American and fully support our president. And here you are acting like a playground bully.

    Trump 2020

    Daniel Traechinx
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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Daniel on Tuesday, July 07, 2020 01:13:35
    On 06 Jul 2020 at 08:28a, Daniel pondered and said...

    That's all we need to know about you.

    Yessir, that's right. I'm an American and fully support our president.

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    And here you are acting like a playground bully.

    Just like the president you claim to fully support!

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Saturday, July 11, 2020 08:58:04
    On 07 Jul 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 06 Jul 2020 at 08:28a, Daniel pondered and said...

    That's all we need to know about you.

    Yessir, that's right. I'm an American and fully support our president

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    Just because a story is published in the Failing New York Times does mean it's true.
    The U.S Military could crush any other on the Planet, including any from the Russians.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, July 12, 2020 19:14:18
    Hello Greg,

    Yessir, that's right. I'm an American and fully support our Da>president

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    Just because a story is published in the Failing New York Times does mean
    it's true.

    The rumor is an Afghan drug smuggler did the deal. Then he left
    the area for Mother Russia, where he remains in hiding. The value
    of roubles is not much, around $140 for 10,000 of them.

    Taliban warlords are not stupid. No way they are going to let
    a two-bit drug smuggler swindle them out of a good deal. Remember,
    Taliban live in caves, not mansions. And have no need for roubles.
    Or dollars, for that matter. They do love poppies, though.

    So please. Do not believe everything the NYT tells you. Their
    reporters are far too gullible and will fall for anything.

    The U.S Military could crush any other on the Planet, including any from the
    Russians.

    The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001, sending its mighty US military
    machine against the primitive Taliban tribesmen. Those same primitive
    Taliban tribesmen are still there, in control of more than half of
    the country, with a puppet government installed by the US being in
    control of one city, the rest of the country being nothing more than uninhabitable terrain.

    The US also invaded Iraq, which accomplished nothing. The US remains
    in Iraq, with the ayatollahs in Iran now pulling the strings rather
    than Saddam Hussein.

    Also, as a result of the US invasion of Iraq came the creation of
    ISIS. This has left Russia and Turkey in charge of Syria, rather than
    Syria's own bloody dictator. Not really sure if that is an improvement
    or a disaster. Either way, the people of Syria are screwed.

    If you want peace, work for justice. Making war is not, and never
    will be, the answer. I am sure PFC Cross can fill you in more on this
    subject.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, July 13, 2020 08:08:06
    On 12 Jul 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    Yessir, that's right. I'm an American and fully support our Da>preside

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    Just because a story is published in the Failing New York Times does mean
    it's true.

    Do not believe everything the NYT tells you. Their
    reporters are far too gullible and will fall for anything.

    Correct, but why is that, it could because of their seething hatred of Trump that blinds them from the truth or worse yet they write whatever they want knowing in advance that what they wrote is false but write it anyway in hopes that dumb liberals use it as fact. The liberal media fish at the same pond called The New York Times. As soon as a story drops they rush to circulate it. At The White House press briefings; sometimes these reporters ask the same questions in a multitude of different ways. All having to do with Fake News from the New York Times story.


    A White House Press Briefing Suggestion:
    Each time a reporter asks a stupid question or any story from the
    Failed New York Times they should get hit in the face with a cream pie.

    It cleans up nice quick and does not take hours
    to remove like Tar and feathers.










    The U.S Military could crush any other on the Planet, including any from
    Russians.

    The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001, sending its mighty US military
    machine against the primitive Taliban tribesmen.

    Wrong.. it was the Soviets who "invaded" and that is precisely why they got their ass's kicked.


    Those same primitive
    Taliban tribesmen are still there, in control of more than half of
    the country, with a puppet government installed by the US being in
    control of one city, the rest of the country being nothing more than uninhabitable terrain.

    The US also invaded Iraq, which accomplished nothing. The US remains
    in Iraq, with the ayatollahs in Iran now pulling the strings rather
    than Saddam Hussein.

    Also, as a result of the US invasion of Iraq came the creation of
    ISIS. This has left Russia and Turkey in charge of Syria, rather than Syria's own bloody dictator. Not really sure if that is an improvement
    or a disaster. Either way, the people of Syria are screwed.

    If you want peace, work for justice. Making war is not, and never
    will be, the answer. I am sure PFC Cross can fill you in more on this subject.

    --Lee

    --
    Hey hey! Ho ho! Donald Trump has got to go!
    Trump is staying! **** Four more years!
    Get your coping supplies now!
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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, July 14, 2020 03:09:50
    On 11 Jul 2020 at 08:58a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...



    Ok, Racist.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, July 14, 2020 03:10:23
    On 13 Jul 2020 at 08:08a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Each time a reporter asks a stupid question or any story from the
    Failed New York Times they should get hit in the face with a cream pie.

    Ok, racist.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dan Cross on Monday, July 13, 2020 16:34:56
    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    When you say stuff like that, without any proof, you are acting as a tool for the Democrats. When are you not acting like a tool for the Democrats?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tuesday, July 14, 2020 06:41:40
    On 14 Jul 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    Ok, racist.

    You think calling me names of something I am not bothers me?
    No.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, July 14, 2020 18:29:08
    Hello Greg,

    Ok, racist.

    You think calling me names of something I am not bothers me?
    No.

    We are all racists and bigots. What we do to overcome our own
    racism and bigotry, as individuals and a society, is up to us.

    I am not the first to say this. Others have also said the same
    thing. In basically the same words, or words to that effect.

    Andrew Young, who grew up in New Orleans, went on to become
    US ambassador to the United Nations, and served as mayor of Atlanta,
    Georgia. As a child, he was told he could no longer play with his
    neighbor, who was white. For no other reason than his neighbor was
    white.

    He was right about what he said about racism and bigotry. And so
    is everybody else who are saying the same thing.

    The owner of the Washington Redskins has finally come to his
    senses, deciding to change the name of his football team.

    The owner of the New Orleans Saints and New Orleans Pelicans
    has also come to her senses, deciding to change the name of her
    beloved Dixie Beer.

    We should all kneel and pray that others do the same. The owner
    of the Cleveland Indians needs to make a name change. The owner of
    the Atlanta Braves needs to make a name change. The owner of the
    Kansas City Chiefs needs to make a name change. They all know the
    drill.

    Singing the Black National Anthem at football games is not enough.
    Liberty and Justice belong to all, not just for a select few.

    Black Lives Really Do Matter.

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, July 17, 2020 08:12:44
    On 13 Jul 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    When you say stuff like that, without any proof, you are acting as a
    tool for the Democrats. When are you not acting like a tool for the Democrats?

    True
    These people are going to become even more Triggered this November.

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, June 16, 2020 05:43:00
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    On 13 Jul 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    It's hard to square the claim that you're "an American"
    with supporting a president who lets a petty thug dictator
    take out bounties on US troops in an active warzone without
    so much as a whimper.

    When you say stuff like that, without any proof, you are acting as a
    tool for the Democrats. When are you not acting like a tool for the Democrats?

    True
    These people are going to become even more Triggered this November.

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    Trump hatred seems to make people irrational. TDS is indeed real. Trump
    could provide homes for homeless people, and they would accuse Trump of
    trying to hide the homeless issue to make America look good by placing them
    out of sight.




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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dennis Katsonis on Saturday, July 18, 2020 07:31:17
    Trump hatred seems to make people irrational. TDS is indeed real. Trump could provide homes for homeless people, and they would accuse Trump of trying to hide the homeless issue to make America look good by placing them out of sight.

    Don't forget delusional - The Democrats have been brainwashed for generations that their way is better, but it does not end there does it? It becomes nasty with attacks and with lies that are created such as stories about Russian Collusion - which led Mueller's Investigation - which was given much promise and praise that this was it. "Muellertime" and all the rest of the fanfare. Then there was the Impeachment committee and then the hearings.
    The POTUS was Acquitted. I don't want to hear any nonsensical BS, that these demoncrats can go after the President after he is out of office in 2024.

    Yes there is no doubt in my mind that Donald J. Trump will be re-elected in November 2020.

    Biden is weak - people will go right on believing those phony polls and that left wing media parades about.

    If Biden debates Trump it's over for Biden, Trump will Destroy him. Big League!

    It's going to be déjàvu and another wake up call for the Democrats that will cause them to be scratching their heads with questions - what just happened?

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Dennis Katsonis on Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:53:00
    Dennis Katsonis wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Trump hatred seems to make people irrational. TDS is indeed real.
    Trump could provide homes for homeless people, and they would accuse
    Trump of trying to hide the homeless issue to make America look good by placing them out of sight.

    You got that right.

    Trump ought to stress that breathing is good and eating healthy food is good. The Lefties should be dead within a week after that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:45:27
    Biden is weak - people will go right on believing those phony polls and tha left wing media parades about.

    I recently saw an ad on Facebook posing the question "Are you in favor of a Trump re-election? Yes or No."

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do, and is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:23:04
    On 19 Jul 20 11:45, Aaron Thomas said the following to Gregory Deyss:

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do, and is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?

    Its probably the same polls that said Hillary was going to win by a landslide.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:44:43
    On 18 Jul 20 07:31:17, Gregory Deyss said the following to Dennis Katsonis:

    Yes there is no doubt in my mind that Donald J. Trump will be re-elected in November 2020.

    I do believe Trump will be re-elected as well, but not in the same sort of circumstance as it was in 2016. I believe he will *barely* win over Biden just because there are sooooo many people buying into the idea that Orange Man Bad and are willing to elect someone clearly with dementia reaching 80 years old.

    Nick

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  • From Underminer@1:342/17 to Nick Andre on Sunday, July 19, 2020 14:20:25
    Re: Re: TDS
    By: Nick Andre to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 19 2020 12:23 pm

    Its probably the same polls that said Hillary was going to win by a landslide.
    Nick

    The important thing to remember about political polls of any type, is that they only reflect the views of the demographic willing to answer phone surveys. Sometimes that's representative of the whole, others less so.
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, July 20, 2020 00:47:04
    On 07-19-20 11:45, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: TDS <=-

    I recently saw an ad on Facebook posing the question "Are you in favor
    of a Trump re-election? Yes or No."

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do,
    and is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?

    Those are definitely not legitimate polls. What they really are is
    click-bait trying to get people to make a campaign donation (to either campaign). And to try to get you to give them an email address for
    future spam emails.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Ron Lauzon on Monday, July 20, 2020 11:23:00
    Ron Lauzon wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

    Dennis Katsonis wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Trump hatred seems to make people irrational. TDS is indeed real.
    Trump could provide homes for homeless people, and they would accuse
    Trump of trying to hide the homeless issue to make America look good by placing them out of sight.

    You got that right.

    Trump ought to stress that breathing is good and eating healthy food is good. The Lefties should be dead within a week after that.

    If you look around, I'm sure you will find someone who already has equated some healthy lifestyle with "white supremacism".

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, July 20, 2020 11:32:00
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

    Trump hatred seems to make people irrational. TDS is indeed real. Trump could provide homes for homeless people, and they would accuse Trump of trying to hide the homeless issue to make America look good by placing them out of sight.

    Don't forget delusional - The Democrats have been brainwashed for generations that their way is better, but it does not end there does
    it? It becomes nasty with attacks and with lies that are created such
    as stories about Russian Collusion - which led Mueller's Investigation
    - which was given much promise and praise that this was it.
    "Muellertime" and all the rest of the fanfare. Then there was the Impeachment committee and then the hearings. The POTUS was Acquitted. I don't want to hear any nonsensical BS, that these demoncrats can go
    after the President after he is out of office in 2024.

    Yes there is no doubt in my mind that Donald J. Trump will be
    re-elected in November 2020.

    Biden is weak - people will go right on believing those phony polls and that left wing media parades about.

    If Biden debates Trump it's over for Biden, Trump will Destroy him. Big League!

    It's going to be déjàvu and another wake up call for the Democrats that will cause them to be scratching their heads with questions - what just happened?

    The polls where phony last time if I recall correctly. I don't have as much skin in the game, being in Australia but the Democrats are the party of whatever interests dominate the world today. Trump for all his flaws, and I believe they are many represent an existential threat to the backers of the Democrats. Not just Trump, but his supporters, which seem to have gotten into their heads they don't have to accept the rule of the "establishment". Trump can undo what the ruling elite have built for themselves, so he has to go.

    What I think this is about, is two competing values systems of visions for the world. There is clearly among those in power, a vision of a world which is shaped by the big corporate players, the kind of world that Amazon, Google, et al would like to build. But many people don't subscribe to this "global consumer" view of the world, and probably not without good reason. These people see Trump as a counter to that.

    And of course people are lying to the pollsters. Why would you be honest when saying you would vote for Trump can get you in hot water?

    I've always said that the US needs a "Trump", but that Donald Trump is the wrong person to do it, if that makes sense.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Monday, July 20, 2020 08:28:03

    Yes there is no doubt in my mind that Donald J. Trump will be re-elect November 2020.

    I do believe Trump will be re-elected as well, but not in the same sort
    of circumstance as it was in 2016. I believe he will *barely* win over Biden just because there are sooooo many people buying into the idea
    that Orange Man Bad and are willing to elect someone clearly with
    dementia reaching 80 years old.

    The idea that there are that many who buy into the BS that Biden is a good candidate is disturbing.

    Biden is a man who has been in Politics for the past 50 years, what has he accomplished?
    Besides being VP of the first black American President and also
    the worst President in American History.

    We are told that that BLM movement has been around for years and there are
    many problems and concerns that continue to go unresolved.
    Obama was the President for 8 years, why did these so called issues did not
    get addressed within these 8 years.
    Not one street was painted with Black Lives Matter during this time.

    The Answer and the Real Truth is:
    BLM really stands for Black Lies Matter. It has more to do with being Anti-Trump then anything else.

    Biden has had any many gaffs over the years, but he can not even recite the first few sentences from the U.S. Constitution he has no business running for Office of the President.
    It was very racist of Biden to suggest that if Blacks don't vote for him then they ain't Black Enough.

    Biden's own words prove that he is not qualified.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 04:13:09
    On 14 Jul 2020 at 06:41a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    On 14 Jul 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    Ok, racist.

    You think calling me names of something I am not bothers me?

    You literally said that white people are superior.

    No.

    Ok, Racist.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, July 20, 2020 13:41:45
    On 20 Jul 20 08:28:03, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

    It was very racist of Biden to suggest that if Blacks don't vote for him th they ain't Black Enough.

    Yes, agreed, even if he was just being a "wiseguy". Imagine if Trump said the same thing? The *entire planet* would be in an uproar demanding his head on a stick.

    I've already written about BLM and how its all just taking tylenol for the headache and never dealing with the brain tumor.

    The thing with Biden is that if he is elected, he will likely have his handlers, his teleprompters, scripts, likely a dedicated staff to ensure
    that every single move he makes is carefully orchestrated. The media will fall in line and worship the ground he walks on because he's "not Trump" even though he likely will have worsening dementia as the pressure of being President takes its toll.

    And once again, Trump just can't tone it down, he can't lay off Twitter or do things the way our conservative Premier does it here in Ontario - Have daily Covid updates for the public and keep the conversation extremely polite and civil. Never ever mention the election or really anything else.

    I know Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, but if just stuck to the crisis at hand and stop slamming Biden so much, make it clear he doesn't care about being re-elected (in a polite way insinuating that he knows he will be), just basically keep the nose to the grindstone then all would be well.

    My fear is that come the election debates, Trump will insult Biden regarding the dementia and many people will be turned off by that as kicking a guy when he's down... that sort of pity. On the other hand it would speak volumes if Biden/Biden's handlers did everything possible to keep him away from debating.

    I don't wish dementia on anyone; I'd seriously rather kill myself than inflict that level of pain and suffering upon someone else, don't care if they even *want* to look after me in that state. I'm never dying of dementia nor will I ever die in some hospital for that matter. Thats just not going to be me.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dennis Katsonis on Monday, July 20, 2020 18:17:46
    And of course people are lying to the pollsters. Why would you be
    honest when saying you would vote for Trump can get you in hot water?

    I've always said that the US needs a "Trump", but that Donald Trump is
    the wrong person to do it, if that makes sense.

    Dennis,
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it was nice to see things from your perspective.

    There remains no doubt in my mind that Trump will earn another
    4 years as the President of the U.S. especially when Biden is the
    alternative.

    The polls showing Biden ahead are as phony just as they were before.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, July 20, 2020 18:23:55
    On 20 Jul 20 18:17:46, Gregory Deyss said the following to Dennis Katsonis:

    There remains no doubt in my mind that Trump will earn another
    4 years as the President of the U.S. especially when Biden is the alternative.

    Please don't take my recent reply to you as some sort of criticism, I respect your optimism but just wish you see that this is 2020 and not 2016, there is no candidate calling half the country "deplorables" and really boiling down to a different set of circumstances / election strategy. And there are some things that Trump has said and done that are, mehhhhh, slightly questionable. Maybe not show-stoppers to ardent supporters but just a bit of douchebaggery.

    Dennis I think was spot-on...

    The polls showing Biden ahead are as phony just as they were before.

    We had a mayor in Toronto who famously said that the only poll that counts... is on election day. He too, had the polls against him, only a snowballs chance in hell of him winning. Turns out he won... by a landslide too I think.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Monday, July 20, 2020 18:37:59
    You literally said that white people are superior.

    I stand by that remark.
    I'm not trying to de-fund the Police.
    I'm not tearing down statures that have stood for over 100 years.
    I'm not painting the streets with the Words of Black Lives Matter.
    I'm not demanding that the labels of food products should be changed.
    I'm not rioting in the streets lighting fireworks towards cops.
    I'm not screaming w/rage as I walk down the street smashing windows out of businesses.
    I'm not knocking down the doors at the local department store to steal.
    I'm not doing any of those things and wont be drinking hot chocolate and coloring with Crayola Crayons the day after the election to help me cope either.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Monday, July 20, 2020 18:45:12
    My fear is that come the election debates, Trump will insult Biden regarding the dementia and many people will be turned off by that as kicking a guy when he's down... that sort of pity. On the other hand it would speak volumes if Biden/Biden's handlers did everything possible to keep him away from debating.

    I agree with all of your points but I have a different thoughts on the
    debates, if they happen. Yes, Trump will smoke him, this will show the American Public that Biden is not worthy or suited for the job.
    I have already indicated to friends to come over to the house and watch the carnage.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, July 20, 2020 19:38:28
    On 20 Jul 20 18:37:59, Gregory Deyss said the following to Dan Cross:

    I'm not doing any of those things and wont be drinking hot chocolate and coloring with Crayola Crayons the day after the election to help me cope either.

    Bob Ross is out of the question? 8-)

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, July 20, 2020 19:39:38
    On 20 Jul 20 18:45:12, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

    I agree with all of your points but I have a different thoughts on the debates, if they happen. Yes, Trump will smoke him, this will show the American Public that Biden is not worthy or suited for the job.
    I have already indicated to friends to come over to the house and watch the carnage.

    Well I see in the news today that Biden wants to promote Islam in schools so I'm sure *that* will sit nicely with conservative Christians.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Monday, July 20, 2020 22:29:28
    Well I see in the news today that Biden wants to promote Islam in
    schools so I'm sure *that* will sit nicely with conservative Christians.

    Biden has already lost, it's just a matter of time before the last granules
    of sand fall into gravities end of the hourglass.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Underminer on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 09:41:00
    Underminer wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    The important thing to remember about political polls of any type, is
    that they only reflect the views of the demographic willing to answer phone surveys.

    I never thought about that.

    I know that I've had a cell phone policy for many years now: If your number is not in my contacts list, I don't answer the phone. If you don't leave a message for me to call back, I assume you are a telemarketer/scammer.


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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Gregory Deyss on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 21:22:00
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

    And of course people are lying to the pollsters. Why would you be
    honest when saying you would vote for Trump can get you in hot water?

    I've always said that the US needs a "Trump", but that Donald Trump is
    the wrong person to do it, if that makes sense.

    Dennis,
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it was nice to see things from your perspective.

    There remains no doubt in my mind that Trump will earn another
    4 years as the President of the U.S. especially when Biden is the alternative.

    The polls showing Biden ahead are as phony just as they were before.

    You would no better than I, as I live on the other side of the world. I am in doubt, largely due to COVID-19.

    I know someone here who put a five figure bet on Trump winning at 7:1 odds. I think a similar bet is worthwhile making today.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, July 25, 2020 01:07:00
    On 07-19-20, AARON THOMAS said to GREGORY DEYSS:

    Biden is weak - people will go right on believing those phony polls and
    tha GD> left wing media parades about.

    I recently saw an ad on Facebook posing the question "Are you in favor of AT>a Trump re-election? Yes or No."

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do, and AT>is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?


    If it was on facebook they probably supressed all the `yes' answers and will
    no doubt soon come out with the astounding revelation that `Trump loses by an overwhelming majority of `no' votes!'



    Tagline....."I killed Saddam Hussein!" .....GW Bush
    "I killed Osama Bin Laden!" .... Obama
    "I killed Qasem Soliemani!" ....Donald Trump
    "I killed Jeffery Epstein!" ....Hillary Clinton


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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to TIM RICHARDSON on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 04:26:00
    TIM RICHARDSON wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    On 07-19-20, AARON THOMAS said to GREGORY DEYSS:

    Biden is weak - people will go right on believing those phony polls and
    tha GD> left wing media parades about.

    I recently saw an ad on Facebook posing the question "Are you in favor of
    a Trump re-election? Yes or No."

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do, and
    is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?


    If it was on facebook they probably supressed all the `yes' answers and will no doubt soon come out with the astounding revelation that `Trump loses by an overwhelming majority of `no' votes!'



    Tagline....."I killed Saddam Hussein!" .....GW Bush
    "I killed Osama Bin Laden!" .... Obama
    "I killed Qasem Soliemani!" ....Donald Trump
    "I killed Jeffery Epstein!" ....Hillary Clinton

    If I was in the USA, and was to vote for Trump, I would not answer a phone poll honestly. Hell, I wouldn't trust a Facebook poll either. If I recall correctly, the polls during 2016 were not that accurate either.

    Even in Australia, the polls indicated that the more conservative party would lose, but they didn't lose at all.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, July 26, 2020 01:48:12
    On 07-25-20 01:07, Tim Richardson <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: TDS <=-

    I recently saw an ad on Facebook posing the question "Are you in favor of
    a Trump re-election? Yes or No."

    I don't fill out spammy crap like that, but I wonder if liberals do, and
    is this where these convenient poll numbers are coming from?

    Those are not really polls. They are political advertisements who end
    up wanting you to donate money to some organization or cause -- and who
    also want to get your email for further spam mailings. You are wise not
    to respond to them.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to DENNIS KATSONIS on Friday, July 31, 2020 22:36:00
    On 06-17-20, DENNIS KATSONIS said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    TIM RICHARDSON wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    On 07-19-20, AARON THOMAS said to GREGORY DEYSS:


    If I was in the USA, and was to vote for Trump, I would not answer a phone DK>poll honestly. Hell, I wouldn't trust a Facebook poll either. If I DK>recall correctly, the polls during 2016 were not that accurate either.


    My phone gives a readout of who's calling as it rings. Anytime I see a name that indicates a pollster on the line I never answer the phone. The only poll that count is the one I submit on election day. They're mostly rigged anyway.



    Tagline;


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    value your property more than you value that persons life!"

    Property Owner: "If they're breaking into my home, its pretty obvious they value my property more than they value their life, too!"




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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to TIM RICHARDSON on Saturday, August 01, 2020 19:26:42
    Hello Tim,

    If I was in the USA, and was to vote for Trump, I would not answer a
    phone
    poll honestly. Hell, I wouldn't trust a Facebook poll either. If I >DK>recall correctly, the polls during 2016 were not that accurate either.

    My phone gives a readout of who's calling as it rings. Anytime I see a name >that indicates a pollster on the line I never answer the phone. The only
    poll
    that count is the one I submit on election day. They're mostly rigged
    anyway.

    I am so glad to hear you being such a strong advocate for having
    backup paper ballots for our elections. That way, anytime there is
    a recount we can all be sure of which candidate really won!

    --Lee

    --
    My body, my choice! / Her body, her choice!

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