• Re: Important WARNING abo

    From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Richard Menedetter on Monday, March 21, 2016 09:07:00
    In a message on Monday 03-20-16 Richard Menedetter said to Daryl Stout:


    If you are using CHRIP I'd advise you to *#:STOP*#: before it's too

    I programmed my UV-5r, BF-F8+ and UV-B5 many times with Chirp.

    How about agreeing on the name!

    CHRIP or Chirp?


    Regards,

    Holger

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Holger Granholm on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 08:43:30
    Hi Holger!

    21 Mar 2016 09:07, from Holger Granholm -> Richard Menedetter:

    If you are using CHRIP I'd advise you to *#:STOP*#: before it's
    I programmed my UV-5r, BF-F8+ and UV-B5 many times with Chirp.
    How about agreeing on the name!
    CHRIP or Chirp?

    I am correct ;)

    http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Holger Granholm on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 17:19:00

    Holger,

    How about agreeing on the name!

    CHRIP or Chirp?

    Likely fat finger syndrome on that one. I have yet to find a diet for fat fingers, but if they're too small, it's hard to hold the silverware (hi hi).

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 09:55:00
    In a message on Wednesday 03-22-16 Richard Menedetter said to Holger
    Granholm:


    Hello Richard,

    If you are using CHRIP I'd advise you to *#:STOP*#: before it's

    I am correct ;)

    You WERE NOT correct. Look back at your first message (warning), about
    the program.

    You mentioned the program name as CHRIP in that message!


    Regards,

    Holger

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Al Kaiser on Thursday, March 24, 2016 20:45:00

    Al,

    CHRIP or Chirp?

    My dyslexia got me. Yea it is CHIRP like the b1rds do.

    Reminds me of the tagline below... <G>

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Al Kaiser on Thursday, March 24, 2016 09:43:00
    In a message on Thursday 03-23-16 Al Kaiser said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Al,

    How about agreeing on the name!

    CHRIP or Chirp?

    My dyslexia got me. Yea it is CHIRP like the b1rds do.

    Nope, IRC, Richard wrote CHRIP in his first warning text about the
    program.

    .!. I quoted Holger. How can anyone be that silly?

    I agree, hi.


    73 de Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Al Kaiser on Friday, March 25, 2016 11:13:08
    Hello Al,

    That should be in my Tagline file someplace. There used to be many of them in the tagline echo, not sure if it's still active. I've stolen many from there and put a few in myself.

    It's not as active as it once was but there are still posts there from time to time.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Mark Lewis on Friday, March 25, 2016 20:42:50
    Hi Mark!

    25 Mar 2016 09:51, from mark lewis -> Richard Menedetter:

    There used to be many of them in the tagline echo, not sure if
    it's still active.
    I have not found any reference to it.
    If you find it still somewhere, maybe you could drop me a NM?
    normally, the way fidonet echo linking evolved and was designed to
    work, you would simply send an areafix request to your feed for an
    area...

    Good idea!
    Thanx Mark.

    Sadly it did not have a positive outcome ... nevermind

    Area TAGLINE doesn't exist No uplink found to forward this request to

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Saturday, March 26, 2016 07:59:00
    mark lewis wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    normally, the way fidonet echo linking evolved and was designed to
    work, you would simply send an areafix request to your feed for an
    area... if they don't have the area, they forward the request up to
    their feed and so on until the echo is either found and linked at the
    top distribution loop or it is not found and a "not found" message is
    sent back down the line... if the area is found and linked, it is
    passed back down the line and each system adds it into their feed list
    and passes it down to the system that sent the request for it and so on until it reaches your system... those intermediate systems may carry
    the echo to you as a passthru area or they may select to add it to
    their local message areas...

    Yep, and it used to work well years ago. I remember carrying passthru areas for my downlinks. There wasn't a lot I wouldn't actually host on the BBS, but downlinks had a way of finding something obscure. :) Areafix has served me well, that's for sure


    that's the way it is supposed to work but many don't understand these things and ignorantly break the system because they don't know...
    others break the system on purpose because they can... either way, it either works or it is broken because of someone specifically breaking it...

    Ignorance can be cured through education, provided that the person is willing to listen. A friendly netmail or even phone call to explain things. The more malicious ones, just hope they're not hosting significant feeds! :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Richard Menedetter on Saturday, March 26, 2016 08:00:00
    Richard Menedetter wrote to Mark Lewis <=-

    Sadly it did not have a positive outcome ... nevermind

    Area TAGLINE doesn't exist No uplink found to forward this request to

    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many years ago.


    ... Chain Tagline Stolen 4 Times (add one when you steal it)
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Tony Langdon on Friday, March 25, 2016 23:46:08
    Hi Tony!

    26 Mar 2016 08:00, from Tony Langdon -> Richard Menedetter:

    Sadly it did not have a positive outcome ... nevermind
    Area TAGLINE doesn't exist No uplink found to forward this
    request to
    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many
    years ago.

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    Area TAGLINES doesn't exist
    No uplink found to forward this request to

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Richard Menedetter on Friday, March 25, 2016 19:21:09
    Re: Important WARNING abo
    By: Richard Menedetter to Tony Langdon on Fri Mar 25 2016 23:46:08

    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many
    years ago.

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    Maybe Tag_Lines or Tag-lines?
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Joe Delahaye on Friday, March 25, 2016 17:42:46
    Hello Joe,

    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many
    years ago.

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    Maybe Tag_Lines or Tag-lines?

    The area is TAGLINES, at least the one I have here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Richard Menedetter on Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:43:00
    Richard Menedetter wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    Area TAGLINES doesn't exist
    No uplink found to forward this request to

    Bummer. :(


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Richard Menedetter on Friday, March 25, 2016 09:41:00
    In a message on Friday 03-24-16 Richard Menedetter said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hello Richard,

    If you are using CHRIP I'd advise you to *#:STOP*#: before it's
    I am correct ;)

    Holger, that message was NOT written by me.
    But it does not really matter.

    I beg you pardon, my mistake.
    I did check the message base now, and found that it was Al who used the
    term CHRIP first.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Al Kaiser on Friday, March 25, 2016 09:41:00
    In a message on Friday 03-24-16 Holger Granholm said to Al Kaiser:

    GM Al,

    CHRIP or Chirp?

    My dyslexia got me. Yea it is CHIRP like the b1rds do.

    Yes, you are correct. Checking through the database for CHRIP, shows
    that you were the first to use that "name".

    Nope, IRC, Richard wrote CHRIP in his first warning text about the
    program.

    My apologies went to Richard.

    BTW, it's a long way on the keyboard between 'i' and '1'.
    See your word "b1rds". Dyslexia or what?


    73 de Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Joe Delahaye on Saturday, March 26, 2016 09:18:14
    Hi Joe!

    25 Mar 2016 19:21, from Joe Delahaye -> Richard Menedetter:

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    OK ... found it with anohter uplink.

    It is called TAGLINES
    Rescan just found 1 message asking if the echo is dead :(

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Holger Granholm on Saturday, March 26, 2016 09:21:34
    Hi Holger!

    25 Mar 2016 09:41, from Holger Granholm -> Richard Menedetter:

    Holger, that message was NOT written by me.
    But it does not really matter.
    I beg you pardon, my mistake.

    No problem.

    I did check the message base now, and found that it was Al who used
    the term CHRIP first.

    I was just wondering why this was so important to you ;)

    It was clearly a typo (whoever it made).
    I already posted the official website.

    BTW. it is a really nice program!

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Richard Menedetter on Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:55:34
    Hi Ricsi!

    26 Mar 2016 09:18, from Richard Menedetter -> Joe Delahaye:

    It is called TAGLINES
    Rescan just found 1 message asking if the echo is dead :(

    OK ... found a link.
    At least some traffic there.

    Thank you all who gave hints!

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:58:01
    Re: Important WARNING abo
    By: Alan Ianson to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 25 2016 17:42:46

    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many
    years ago.

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    Maybe Tag_Lines or Tag-lines?

    The area is TAGLINES, at least the one I have here.

    Doesnt hurt to explore all possibilities <G>
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Saturday, March 26, 2016 15:56:02

    26 Mar 16 08:00, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    Sadly it did not have a positive outcome ... nevermind

    Area TAGLINE doesn't exist No uplink found to forward this request to

    Was it TAGLINE or TAGLINES? I have dim memories of this echo many years ago.

    TAGLINES is what my configs show...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Menedetter on Saturday, March 26, 2016 15:57:26

    26 Mar 16 09:18, you wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    Good question, so I just tried both.
    No luck.

    OK ... found it with anohter uplink.

    It is called TAGLINES
    Rescan just found 1 message asking if the echo is dead :(

    what is the original posting date of that message?

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Sunday, March 27, 2016 08:30:00
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    TAGLINES is what my configs show...

    Seems it's been found. :)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Al Kaiser on Saturday, March 26, 2016 18:10:00

    Al,

    Reminds me of the tagline below... <G>

    ---* OLX 1.53 * I'm Dyslexia Of Borg. Prepare To Have Your Ass Laminated.

    That should be in my Tagline file someplace. There used to be many of them AK>in the tagline echo, not sure if it's still active. I've stolen many from AK>there and put a few in myself.

    Radiosport (contesting) is an art...tagline stealing is a science. <G>

    Actually, it's not stealing...it's gathering research. :)

    Seriously, in the 25 years I've been in ham radio, and doing traffic nets...some ways that I've heard other net controls do their preambles, I've incorporated some of that into mine.

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Richard Menedetter on Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:38:00
    In a message on Saturday 03-25-16 Richard Menedetter said to Mark Lewis:

    25 Mar 2016 09:51, from mark lewis -> Richard Menedetter:

    There used to be many of them in the tagline echo, not sure if
    it's still active.

    If you find it still somewhere, maybe you could drop me a NM?

    normally, the way fidonet echo linking evolved and was designed to
    work, you would simply send an areafix request to your feed for an
    area...

    Sadly it did not have a positive outcome ... nevermind

    Area TAGLINE doesn't exist No uplink found to forward this request
    to

    It seems to me that your Host, Vienna_Net, doesn't know how to handle
    Areafix, Arealink, etc, requests.

    Neither do you have any options to change to another host in your
    country, because all nodes are managed by the same SysOp.

    But you could do as I, and all other nodes that have existed here, on
    the Aland Islands have done, change to a Host in a neighbouring country.

    Finland has officially two native languages, but here the only official language is swedish. Most of the finnish ones have been managed by folks
    having finnish as their native language.

    I'm now on my fourth swedish host. The previous SysOps have either died,
    or lost their interest in Fidonet.


    Have a good night,

    Holger

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Mark Lewis on Sunday, March 27, 2016 12:53:06
    Hi Mark!

    26 Mar 2016 15:57, from mark lewis -> Richard Menedetter:

    It is called TAGLINES
    Rescan just found 1 message asking if the echo is dead :(
    what is the original posting date of that message?

    It seems I was a bit premature.
    I have now 28 messages dating from january to november 2015.

    It sounds plausible that this is the traffic of that echo.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Holger Granholm on Sunday, March 27, 2016 12:56:52
    Hi Holger!

    26 Mar 2016 10:38, from Holger Granholm -> Richard Menedetter:

    It seems to me that your Host, Vienna_Net, doesn't know how to handle Areafix, Arealink, etc, requests.

    Where is the connection to amateur_radio?

    If you think you found a configuration problem, I am sure that Helmut will come
    back to you if you send him a nice NM.

    I guess that would be the normal way to report it.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Menedetter on Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:31:30

    27 Mar 16 12:53, you wrote to me:

    It is called TAGLINES
    Rescan just found 1 message asking if the echo is dead :(
    what is the original posting date of that message?

    It seems I was a bit premature.
    I have now 28 messages dating from january to november 2015.

    It sounds plausible that this is the traffic of that echo.

    that sounds about right... as i get some time, i hope to script something to extract X numbers of taglines from my ~12000 line tagline file and post them to
    the echo... the file is modified almost everyday, though... adding new ones and
    removing close duplicates... i already have a routine to sort and remove duplicates where spaces, punctuation and case are ignored...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Menedetter on Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35:22

    27 Mar 16 12:56, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    It seems to me that your Host, Vienna_Net, doesn't know how to handle
    Areafix, Arealink, etc, requests.

    Where is the connection to amateur_radio?

    If you think you found a configuration problem, I am sure that Helmut
    will come back to you if you send him a nice NM.

    I guess that would be the normal way to report it.

    i think holger is speaking of the uplink being set up to forward areafix requests up the line instead of having to get the operator involved to have them manually go find the echo and connect it in...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.1 to Richard Menedetter on Sunday, March 27, 2016 13:54:35
    On 03/27/16, Richard Menedetter said the following...

    It seems I was a bit premature.
    I have now 28 messages dating from january to november 2015.

    It sounds plausible that this is the traffic of that echo.

    That sounds about right. I did post a snippet of my tagline file a while
    back. I'll have to post another and see if I get replies and get some fresh stuff for my tagline file.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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