CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water. I am curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the care
and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences ?

Thanks.
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Even that seemingly straightforward question is not as
easy as it seems. The equipment can be virtually identical
(filter, heater, light) if you're comparing simple fish-only
set ups. On the other hand, if you have a freshwater planted
aquarium, there's a whole bunch of CO2-related equipment
to be added. If you want to do marine reefkeeping, the
equipment needed include the basics plus protein skimmer,
elaborate lighting, sumps, refugiums, etc., etc. hth.

-coelacanth

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water. I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the care
and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences ?

Thanks.

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Just wanted to keep a couple of clown fish and sea aneamies (sp?) does not
need a protein skimmer ?

coelacanth wrote:

Even that seemingly straightforward question is not as
easy as it seems. The equipment can be virtually identical
(filter, heater, light) if you're comparing simple fish-only
set ups. On the other hand, if you have a freshwater planted
aquarium, there's a whole bunch of CO2-related equipment
to be added. If you want to do marine reefkeeping, the
equipment needed include the basics plus protein skimmer,
elaborate lighting, sumps, refugiums, etc., etc. hth.

-coelacanth

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water. I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the care
and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences ?

Thanks.

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If you want a clown host anemone then you need alot of light. If you just
want an anemone but not a clown host I have used condylactis(sp?) anemones(atlantic) because they dont need high light levels. I keet 2 clowns and a condylactis in a 10 gallon with a live sand bed and 10 lbs of live
rock,a penguin 170 biowheel filter, and a standard flourescent hood without problems.The condylactis can eat the clown although I have never had that problem as the clowns stay far away from it.Due to the fact that saltwater caused me alot of problems and money on my 125 it is now freshwater oscar
tank but the 10 gallon is nice and easy to keep.


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Just wanted to keep a couple of clown fish and sea aneamies (sp?) does not need a protein skimmer ?

coelacanth wrote:

Even that seemingly straightforward question is not as
easy as it seems. The equipment can be virtually identical
(filter, heater, light) if you're comparing simple fish-only
set ups. On the other hand, if you have a freshwater planted
aquarium, there's a whole bunch of CO2-related equipment
to be added. If you want to do marine reefkeeping, the
equipment needed include the basics plus protein skimmer,
elaborate lighting, sumps, refugiums, etc., etc. hth.

-coelacanth

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water.

I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the

care

and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences

?

Thanks.

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"coelacanth" <coelacanth@no.where> wrote in message news:I9itb.306$yM1.231@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
.. As for not

being on sale in Australia--well, my recollection
is that you're a tad off the beaten path. Maybe CO2
is just a big-city vice ;)?

No, we are up to speed on CO2 in oz, but its not available as readily as one might wish. However,
http://www.milwaukeemeters.com.au/aquarium.html sell the regulator (AU$
205) and pH controller (AU$ 231). The guy who runs Milwaukee is on the Gold Coast, and seems like a reasonable bloke over the phone. I expect to buy
from him as soon as I get my water and lights a bit more under control.
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While I agree with your ideas about marine, you did forget, that he will
also need plenty of cash,
But, Please tell me, Why does he need a CO-2 unit.
I,ve had planted tanks for years, and have never bothered with all that
stuff,
In fact I,ve never ever seen it for sale in Australia..

bassett

"coelacanth" <coelacanth@no.where> wrote in message

Even that seemingly straightforward question is not as
easy as it seems. The equipment can be virtually identical
(filter, heater, light) if you're comparing simple fish-only
set ups. On the other hand, if you have a freshwater planted
aquarium, there's a whole bunch of CO2-related equipment
to be added. If you want to do marine reefkeeping, the
equipment needed include the basics plus protein skimmer,
elaborate lighting, sumps, refugiums, etc., etc. hth.

-coelacanth

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water.

I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the

care

and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences

?

Thanks.

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Well, I think that it depends on what you're growing.
If one aspires to Amano-like tanks, it's a sine non qua.
In my own case, I need a little CO2 to get the water
into a habitable condition, since it comes out of
the tank at pH 8.4 with KH of 20+ and I will insist
on keeping Amazonian biotopes. But of course
people have different experiences. As for not
being on sale in Australia--well, my recollection
is that you're a tad off the beaten path. Maybe CO2
is just a big-city vice ;)?

-coelacanth

"Bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message news:3fb59ce1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

While I agree with your ideas about marine, you did forget, that he will
also need plenty of cash,
But, Please tell me, Why does he need a CO-2 unit.
I,ve had planted tanks for years, and have never bothered with all that stuff,
In fact I,ve never ever seen it for sale in Australia..

bassett

"coelacanth" <coelacanth@no.where> wrote in message

Even that seemingly straightforward question is not as
easy as it seems. The equipment can be virtually identical
(filter, heater, light) if you're comparing simple fish-only
set ups. On the other hand, if you have a freshwater planted
aquarium, there's a whole bunch of CO2-related equipment
to be added. If you want to do marine reefkeeping, the
equipment needed include the basics plus protein skimmer,
elaborate lighting, sumps, refugiums, etc., etc. hth.

-coelacanth

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh

water.

I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the

care

and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment

differences

?

Thanks.

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Well your partly right, I do live in a semi-remote area, and am about 40 minutes from a large costal town, Coffs Harbour NSW

As for paying close to $500, plus the Air tank , I'll stay remote, or off
the beaten track ,as you call it... frankly I think your "Dead in the Head" paying that sort of money, so you can grow fish weed..
And there,s nothing wrong with my water quality, Chemical free, rain water straight of the roof
bassett



"blank" <void@invalid.net> wrote in message >

No, we are up to speed on CO2 in oz, but its not available as readily as

one

might wish. However,
http://www.milwaukeemeters.com.au/aquarium.html sell the regulator (AU$ 205) and pH controller (AU$ 231). The guy who runs Milwaukee is on the

Gold

Coast, and seems like a reasonable bloke over the phone. I expect to buy from him as soon as I get my water and lights a bit more under control.

"coelacanth" <coelacanth@no.where> wrote in message
. As for not
being on sale in Australia--well, my recollection
is that you're a tad off the beaten path. Maybe CO2
is just a big-city vice ;)?

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If you want a clown host anemone then you need alot of light. If you just
want an anemone but not a clown host I have used condylactis(sp?) anemones(atlantic) because they dont need high light levels. I keet 2 clowns and a condylactis in a 10 gallon with a live sand bed and 10 lbs of live
rock,a penguin 170 biowheel filter, and a standard flourescent hood without problems.The condylactis can eat the clown although I have never had that problem as the clowns stay far away from it.Due to the fact that saltwater caused me alot of problems and money on my 125 it is now freshwater oscar
tank but the 10 gallon is nice and easy to keep.

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CAn anyone tell me what the difference is between salt and fresh water. I

am

curious to know the difference's in equipment only, I understand the care
and maintance will be different, but what are the equipment differences ?

Thanks.

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