• Please help!!!

    From Starfish@1:278/230 to All on Sunday, November 28, 2004 07:21:00
    hi guys
    Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly at the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter media and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first
    ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a few times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
    stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
    Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
    parasites?
    Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help
    her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....

    Hope someone can help
    TIA
    Ves
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  • From Limnophile@1:278/230 to All on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:25:00
    Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.

    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:QWiqd.51301$K7.23113@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    hi guys
    Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly
    at
    the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
    media
    and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her first ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
    few
    times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
    Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
    parasites?
    Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to help her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....

    Hope someone can help
    TIA
    Ves

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  • From Starfish@1:278/230 to All on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:25:00
    If i do a 20% waterchange every 2 days, Will it help Toby?
    Thanks for clearing that up!!!!
    "Limnophile" <limnophileNOSP@Mcharter.net> wrote in message news:npjqd.23204$F33.22684@fe07.lga...
    Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.

    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:QWiqd.51301$K7.23113@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    hi guys
    Today i noticed that my shubunkin has red bloody dots on her body, mostly >> at
    the base of her fins. I did a 40% water change, cleaned out the filter
    media
    and added 0.03% salt to the tank. She is 4 years old and this is her
    first
    ever problem. Last night the filter malfunctioned and she swam past it a
    few
    times, Could she have been burnt while touching the heater? I threw the
    stupid heater away and ordered a better one.
    Is this a reaction to burning on the heater or is it a reaction to
    parasites?
    Have i done the right thing so far? Is here anything else i can do to
    help
    her. She dart around occasionally, but that is usually her....

    Hope someone can help
    TIA
    Ves



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  • From Starfish@1:278/230 to All on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 07:41:00
    I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything
    about fish.
    What else can help?
    Salt?
    "Limnophile" <limnophileNOSP@Mcharter.net> wrote in message news:1rkqd.23257$e94.14167@fe07.lga...

    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:fDjqd.51370$K7.37719@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    If i do a 20% waterchange every 2 days, Will it help Toby?
    Thanks for clearing that up!!!!
    "Limnophile" <limnophileNOSP@Mcharter.net> wrote in message
    news:npjqd.23204$F33.22684@fe07.lga...
    Red spots like you described are usually caused by bacterial infection.


    Daily water changes will help, but probably won't cure the infection
    alone. You should consider using antibiotics. The sites below have lots of good info. The "discus disease" site also applies to other fish.

    http://world.std.com/~enjolras/symtreat.htm

    http://www.thekrib.com/Diseases/

    http://faq.thekrib.com/disease-fw.html

    Glad to help,
    Limnophile


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  • From Limnophile@1:278/230 to All on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:35:00
    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:P3Zqd.53652$K7.29461@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything >about fish.
    What else can help?
    Salt?

    Salt can help, but use it carefully. Too much salt will stress your fish and make things worse. Keep up the daily water changes too. For a goldfish I
    would use 0.5 grams of salt per liter for about a week, then stop using salt and keep the water changes going.

    If your vetrinarian is willing to help but doesn't know which medications to use, 10 mg per liter of erythromycin or tetracycline should do the trick.

    Other antibiotic pills / tablets can be used, but at different doses. Fish should be treated with antibiotics as if the aquarium was a large animal, horse / cow / pig etc. For example, if you have a 400 liter tank, it should get the same amount of antibiotic as a 400 kg horse.

    Or if you can't find a vetrinarian willing to prescibe antibiotics, salt is less effective but should help.

    Limnophile
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  • From Starfish@1:278/230 to All on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 21:56:00
    Thankyou!
    The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
    I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
    grrrr
    "Limnophile" <limnophileNOSP@Mcharter.net> wrote in message news:pm1rd.24583$Hh2.4051@fe07.lga...

    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:P3Zqd.53652$K7.29461@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    I have no antibiotics available and no vets in my region know anything >>about fish.
    What else can help?
    Salt?

    Salt can help, but use it carefully. Too much salt will stress your fish
    and make things worse. Keep up the daily water changes too. For a goldfish
    I would use 0.5 grams of salt per liter for about a week, then stop using salt and keep the water changes going.

    If your vetrinarian is willing to help but doesn't know which medications
    to use, 10 mg per liter of erythromycin or tetracycline should do the
    trick.

    Other antibiotic pills / tablets can be used, but at different doses. Fish should be treated with antibiotics as if the aquarium was a large animal, horse / cow / pig etc. For example, if you have a 400 liter tank, it
    should get the same amount of antibiotic as a 400 kg horse.

    Or if you can't find a vetrinarian willing to prescibe antibiotics, salt
    is less effective but should help.

    Limnophile


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  • From Limnophile@1:278/230 to All on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 07:16:00
    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:8g8rd.54067$K7.29512@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    Thankyou!
    The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
    I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\ grrrr

    Where in Queensland? Maybe we're neighbors?

    Just kidding, I'm in Wisconsin, north-central USA. If I dug a hole straight down, I'd come out in the ocean 2,000 km south of Perth.

    A couple other "fishy" thoughts, do you keep your fish at room temperature? Goldfish do best at 20 to 24 C. They are healthier on a mainly vegetarian diet, with just a little fish/meat/insect food.

    Wishing your fish luck;
    Limnophile
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  • From Starfish@1:278/230 to All on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 07:16:00
    They pretty much are vegos like me!....i dont eat red meat or fish

    "Limnophile" <limnophileNOSP@Mcharter.net> wrote in message news:WUfrd.1723$x81.289@fe07.lga...

    "Starfish" <everlong82@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:8g8rd.54067$K7.29512@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    Thankyou!
    The vets wont have anything to do with fish (which is a real shame)
    I suppose thats what you get when you live in a town with 10000 people
    (including the surrounding districts) in it in Regional Queensland......\
    grrrr

    Where in Queensland? Maybe we're neighbors?

    Just kidding, I'm in Wisconsin, north-central USA. If I dug a hole
    straight down, I'd come out in the ocean 2,000 km south of Perth.

    A couple other "fishy" thoughts, do you keep your fish at room
    temperature? Goldfish do best at 20 to 24 C. They are healthier on a
    mainly vegetarian diet, with just a little fish/meat/insect food.

    Wishing your fish luck;
    Limnophile


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