oooooo oooooo oooo oooooo oooooo oooo ooooo oooooo oooo
`888. `888. .8' `888. `888. .8' `888' `888. .8'
`888. .8888. .8' `888. .8888. .8' 888 `888. .8'
`888 .8'`888. .8' `888 .8'`888. .8' 888 `888. .8'
`888.8' `888.8' `888.8' `888.8' 888 `888.8'
`888' `888' `888' `888' 888 `888'
`8' `8' `8' `8' o888o `8'

ooooo ooo oooooooooooo oooooo oooooo oooo .oooooo..o
`888b. `8' `888' `8 `888. `888. .8' d8P' `Y8
8 `88b. 8 888 `888. .8888. .8' Y88bo.
8 `88b. 8 888oooo8 `888 .8'`888. .8' `"Y8888o.
8 `88b.8 888 " `888.8' `888.8' `"Y88b
8 `888 888 o `888' `888' oo .d8P
o8o `8 o888ooooood8 `8' `8' 8""88888P'

http://www.wwivbbs.org/

Volume 8 Issue 1
Winter 2015


Table of Contents
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WWIV BBS 5.0 Release......................................WWIV Dev Team
WWIV and WWIVNet Update From The New NC..................Weatherman 1@1
WWIV 5.1 Release Goals....................................Rushfan 1@514
WWIV Links and Information.............................................
=======================================================================

WWIV BBS 5.0 Release
- WWIV Dev Team -

We are happy to announce WWIV 5.0 is available as the stable release of
WWIV BBS. WWIV 5.0 was under development for many years and finishing
is a significant milestone.

Download WWIV 5.0: https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv/releases
WWIV 5.0 Installation and Docs: http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org/

Here are some of the great new things in WWIV 5.0

File Compatible with 4.30 & 4.31
Drop the WWIV 5.0 binaries into your 4.30 or 4.31 setup and fire
up WWIV 5.0.
WWIV 5.0 Telnet Server
WWWIV 5.0 has a telnet server included to allow client access
to WWIV 5.0.
Internal Zmodem Support
ZIP/UNZIP Support Included
Networkb.exe - BINKP transport for WWIV networking is now part of
the WWIV builds.
Netutil.exe - Network packet and config file utility now included.
Network.exe - shim to proxy between network0, networkp (PPP project)
and networkb.
New User Sign Up Notification (SSM) to SysOp.
Source Code now hosted on GitHub https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv
Compiled with MSVC 2015
Compiles and runs on Linux
Door32.sys Support
Syncfoss Support - Thanks to Rob Swindell
FOSSIL can now be specified in WWIV.INI as a valid flag for spawn
options.
BBS.EXE -k command line to pack all message bases
-k # # # will pack the massage bases with those IDs.
New WWIV.INI Parameters
EXEC_LOGSYNCFOSS = [ 1 | 0 ] - If non-zero then
wwivsync.log will be generated. The default setting is
1 and this is currently ignored.
EXEC_CHILDWAITTIME = (time to wait in milliseconds, this
parameter is only used on Win9X unless EXEC_USEWAITFORIDLE is
set to 0. The default value is 500 (1/2 second).
NEW_SCAN_AT_LOGIN= [Y|N] - If Y when a user logs in they will be
asked to scan all message areas for new messages.
TEMP_DIRECTORY = temp%n - The name of the Temp directory relative
to the wwiv root directory. %n specifies the instance number.
BATCH_DIRECTORY = batch%n - The name of the Batch directory
relative to the wwiv root directory. %n specifies the instance
number.
NUM_INSTANCES = 4 - The Number of Instances to allow.
NOTE: Directories are created on demand by the bbs on startup and
config.ovr will be created by legacy tools when you run init.
NO_NEWUSER_FEEDBACK = [Y|N] - If set to Y no newuser messages will
be sent at all.
2 new pipe color codes:
|#<wwiv color code 0-9> as an alternative to the "heart" codes
|@<macro character> as an alternative to ^O^O<macro char>
Existing pipe codes are: |B<background char>, and |<2 digit code>
for foreground colors.
WWIV Message Editor Commands
'/A' - Abort Message
'/H' & '/?' - Help
!!! Many Bug fixes !!!

What has been deprecated in WWIV 5.0?
Windows XP No Longer supported
Support for Modems has been removed
SPAWNOPT[FSED] is now unused and no longer supported

=======================================================================
WWIV and WWIVNet Update From The New NC
By Weatherman 1@1

As many know, lots of things have been happening with WWIV BBS and
WWIVnet over the past few years. When Weather Station BBS came back
online as a virtual machine around three years ago, the only networks
that were available were FTN based. About 7-8 months later, I was
approached by Eli Sanford to join WWIVSN (the early beginnings of the
resurrected WWIVnet). Eli spent lots of time helping others and
leading the path so that we could have a functional WWIV network like
years ago.

On a very sad day (October 26, 2015), our WWIVnet leader Eli Sanford
passed from leukemia. We were in shock and upset from the news. A few
weeks went by as we were mourning the loss of Eli and then later,
figuring out plans to keep WWIVnet alive.

We agreed to meet in the WWIV chat room on Monday evening to decide
how to move forward. The first item of business was determining the
new @1 node for WWIVnet. Rushfan suggested myself and the rest of
the group was on-board with that change. I was very humbled by the
votes of support and encouragement. It has been my passion to keep
WWIV and WWIVnet alive in the most resiliant way possible. My hardware
setup is robust for a home environment and offers a good deal
redundancy. I will always do my best to make sure WWIVnet is running
the best way possible.

That same night, we decided to make a historic change for WWIVnet.
We switched the entire network from using WINS (PPP Project) to
NetworkB (BinkP) written by Rushfan. Given the magnatude of changes
that we made that night, I think it went fantastic! We have been
running completely using BinkP for WWIVnet ever since. It has proved
to be a major step forward! I can't thank Rushfan enough for writing
that program, as that was a HUGE step forward!

In more recent news, we now have the ability to send out network
updates using NetUp just like the legacy WWIVnet. WSS provided a
new version of NetUp for WWIVnet which has been working
perfectly sending out network updates, subs listings, and even this
WWIVnet news. This brings us back to the functionality that we had
with the legacy WWIVnet. It has been well over a decade since this was
possible.

I am completely honored to be a part of such an excellent group of
people that have done so much for WWIV and WWIVnet in the past few
years. Highlighting the past few months as just nothing short of
incredible with the move to NetworkB (BinkP). That was as huge of a
change for WWIVnet as when we started moving network packets using
Frank Reid's PPP Project (SMTP).

This has been a very fun road for our hobby and I'm very excited for
what the future holds. I'm sure as more people discover our
milestones, additional people will re-connect and join our fantastic
group. We will also not forget Eli and all the hard work he did to
start the WWIVnet comeback.

Here is a toast to the bright future of WWIV and WWIVnet!

- Weatherman (Mark) 1@1.WWIVnet
=======================================================================
WWIV 5.1 Release Goals
By Rushfan 1@514

Main Themes
~~~~~~~~~~~
Messages and WWIVNet have always been at the heart of WWIV. For 5.1, I
plan on modernizing and improving the internal code quality of the
messaging code, making it easier to embed into new tools. Included in
this will be support for the JAM Message Base format to broaden the
range of tools available for exposing message bases.

More on JAM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAM_Message_Base_Format

Net38 will be finalized [currently Beta 6] and released supporting any
new changes to get WWIVNet functioning in the Internet era.

See all of the work targeted to Milestone 5.1 on GitHub:
http://git.io/vRrOM

=======================================================================
WWIV Links and Information
WWIC 5.0 Team Site http://www.wwivbbs.org
WWIV BBS List http://wwivbbs.rtfd.org/en/latest/WWIV_BBS_list
WWIV 5.0 Documentation http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org
WWIVNews Archive http://wwivbbs.rtfd.org/en/latest/WWIVNews
WWIV IRC irc://irc.ospreynet.info:6667/wwiv
=======================================================================

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

20 Dec 15 17:04, you wrote to all:

WWIV 5.0 Installation and Docs: http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org/

Just letting you know that I did follow the above instructions, it worked. :) -=< Global Q-Scan Done >=-
< General Q-Scan Done >
WWIV v5.00 Main Menu

Message CenterMiscellaneousE-Mail

New Msgs, All Subs A> Auto-Message E> E-mail User

Post a Message B> BBS List M> Read E-mail

Remove a message C> Chat with Sysop F> Send Feedback

Scan Current Msg Base I> System Information K> Kill Sent E-mail

Scan All Subs Non-Stop L> Last Caller List

Enter Number of Sub O> Log Off System Features

Join Conference U or ~ > User List D> Change Your Defaults

List Subs Available V> Voting Booth G> Read General Files

, ] or +> Advance 1 Sub X> Toggle Xpert Mode T> Transfer Section

<, [ or -> Retreat 1 Sub Y> Your Information .> On-Line Programs

Advance 1 Conference CTRL Y> Toggle Pause $> Use Time Bank

Retreat 1 Conference

Hop to Another Sub

WWIV Slash Menu Ctrl T> Time left On-Line

Time Left: 7 minutes
Conference: General
[1] [General]:O
Time on = 00:03:24
This is logoff.msg.
Edit to suit your needs.

Connection Closed to fluph.darktech.org/23 @ 6:54 pm

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20150715
* Origin: flupH - fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)

Just letting you know that I did follow the above instructions, it
worked. :) -=< Global Q-Scan Done >=-

Great to hear!

The group did a great job on the documentation. There is still more work to be
done in that area, especially when it comes to integration with FTN networks.

I'm going to try and assist in that area since my WWIV system is in several FTN
networks in addition to WWIVnet.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

WWIV BBS 5.0 Release
- WWIV Dev Team -

We are happy to announce WWIV 5.0 is available as the stable release of WWIV BBS. WWIV 5.0 was under development for many years and finishing
is a significant milestone.

Download WWIV 5.0: https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv/releases
WWIV 5.0 Installation and Docs: http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org/

Do you have an ARM Linux version?

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (1:106/324)

Darryl Perry (1:106/324) Mon Dec 28 21:48:57 2015
Do you have an ARM Linux version?

looking to try the bbs on a Pi?

... [CE] Backwards and forwards means I know everything about you.
→
--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: Inland Utopia BBS (1:218/109.0)

Do you have an ARM Linux version?

It will run on a Rasberry, but not sure on the ARM processor. Someone should give that a shot.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

On 01/03/16, Mark Hofmann said the following...

Do you have an ARM Linux version?

It will run on a Rasberry, but not sure on the ARM processor. Someone should give that a shot.

Raspberry Pi *is* an ARM SoC device. If you know it will run on RPi, do you have an available RPi version?

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (1:106/324)

Raspberry Pi *is* an ARM SoC device. If you know it will run on RPi, do
you have an available RPi version?

From what I understand, the Linux version will run on a Raspberry Pi. Will have to double check with the development group to get the specifics.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

I've blown away my Synchronet bbs. Would be very much willing to be
part of this. (synchronet ok, but I got rid of it to try something else.

oooooo oooooo oooo oooooo oooooo oooo ooooo oooooo oooo
`888. `888. .8' `888. `888. .8' `888' `888. .8'
`888. .8888. .8' `888. .8888. .8' 888 `888. .8'
`888 .8'`888. .8' `888 .8'`888. .8' 888 `888. .8'
`888.8' `888.8' `888.8' `888.8' 888 `888.8'
`888' `888' `888' `888' 888 `888'
`8' `8' `8' `8' o888o `8'

ooooo ooo oooooooooooo oooooo oooooo oooo .oooooo..o
`888b. `8' `888' `8 `888. `888. .8' d8P' `Y8
8 `88b. 8 888 `888. .8888. .8' Y88bo.
8 `88b. 8 888oooo8 `888 .8'`888. .8' `"Y8888o.
8 `88b.8 888 " `888.8' `888.8' `"Y88b
8 `888 888 o `888' `888' oo .d8P
o8o `8 o888ooooood8 `8' `8' 8""88888P'

http://www.wwivbbs.org/

Volume 8 Issue 1
Winter 2015

Table of Contents
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WWIV BBS 5.0 Release......................................WWIV Dev Team
WWIV and WWIVNet Update From The New NC..................Weatherman 1@1
WWIV 5.1 Release Goals....................................Rushfan 1@514
WWIV Links and Information.............................................
=======================================================================

WWIV BBS 5.0 Release
- WWIV Dev Team -

We are happy to announce WWIV 5.0 is available as the stable release of
WWIV BBS. WWIV 5.0 was under development for many years and finishing
is a significant milestone.

Download WWIV 5.0: https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv/releases
WWIV 5.0 Installation and Docs: http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org/

Here are some of the great new things in WWIV 5.0

File Compatible with 4.30 & 4.31
Drop the WWIV 5.0 binaries into your 4.30 or 4.31 setup and fire
up WWIV 5.0.
WWIV 5.0 Telnet Server
WWWIV 5.0 has a telnet server included to allow client access
to WWIV 5.0.
Internal Zmodem Support
ZIP/UNZIP Support Included
Networkb.exe - BINKP transport for WWIV networking is now part of
the WWIV builds.
Netutil.exe - Network packet and config file utility now included.
Network.exe - shim to proxy between network0, networkp (PPP project)
and networkb.
New User Sign Up Notification (SSM) to SysOp.
Source Code now hosted on GitHub https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv
Compiled with MSVC 2015
Compiles and runs on Linux
Door32.sys Support
Syncfoss Support - Thanks to Rob Swindell
FOSSIL can now be specified in WWIV.INI as a valid flag for spawn
options.
BBS.EXE -k command line to pack all message bases
-k # # # will pack the massage bases with those IDs.
New WWIV.INI Parameters
EXEC_LOGSYNCFOSS = [ 1 | 0 ] - If non-zero then
wwivsync.log will be generated. The default setting is
1 and this is currently ignored.
EXEC_CHILDWAITTIME = (time to wait in milliseconds, this
parameter is only used on Win9X unless EXEC_USEWAITFORIDLE is
set to 0. The default value is 500 (1/2 second).
NEW_SCAN_AT_LOGIN= [Y|N] - If Y when a user logs in they will be
asked to scan all message areas for new messages.
TEMP_DIRECTORY = temp%n - The name of the Temp directory relative
to the wwiv root directory. %n specifies the instance number.
BATCH_DIRECTORY = batch%n - The name of the Batch directory
relative to the wwiv root directory. %n specifies the instance
number.
NUM_INSTANCES = 4 - The Number of Instances to allow.
NOTE: Directories are created on demand by the bbs on startup and
config.ovr will be created by legacy tools when you run init.
NO_NEWUSER_FEEDBACK = [Y|N] - If set to Y no newuser messages will
be sent at all.
2 new pipe color codes:
|#<wwiv color code 0-9> as an alternative to the "heart" codes
|@<macro character> as an alternative to ^O^O<macro char>
Existing pipe codes are: |B<background char>, and |<2 digit code>
for foreground colors.
WWIV Message Editor Commands
'/A' - Abort Message
'/H' & '/?' - Help
!!! Many Bug fixes !!!

What has been deprecated in WWIV 5.0?
Windows XP No Longer supported
Support for Modems has been removed
SPAWNOPT[FSED] is now unused and no longer supported

=======================================================================
WWIV and WWIVNet Update From The New NC
By Weatherman 1@1

As many know, lots of things have been happening with WWIV BBS and
WWIVnet over the past few years. When Weather Station BBS came back
online as a virtual machine around three years ago, the only networks
that were available were FTN based. About 7-8 months later, I was
approached by Eli Sanford to join WWIVSN (the early beginnings of the
resurrected WWIVnet). Eli spent lots of time helping others and
leading the path so that we could have a functional WWIV network like
years ago.

On a very sad day (October 26, 2015), our WWIVnet leader Eli Sanford
passed from leukemia. We were in shock and upset from the news. A few
weeks went by as we were mourning the loss of Eli and then later,
figuring out plans to keep WWIVnet alive.

We agreed to meet in the WWIV chat room on Monday evening to decide
how to move forward. The first item of business was determining the
new @1 node for WWIVnet. Rushfan suggested myself and the rest of
the group was on-board with that change. I was very humbled by the
votes of support and encouragement. It has been my passion to keep
WWIV and WWIVnet alive in the most resiliant way possible. My hardware
setup is robust for a home environment and offers a good deal
redundancy. I will always do my best to make sure WWIVnet is running
the best way possible.

That same night, we decided to make a historic change for WWIVnet.
We switched the entire network from using WINS (PPP Project) to
NetworkB (BinkP) written by Rushfan. Given the magnatude of changes
that we made that night, I think it went fantastic! We have been
running completely using BinkP for WWIVnet ever since. It has proved
to be a major step forward! I can't thank Rushfan enough for writing
that program, as that was a HUGE step forward!

In more recent news, we now have the ability to send out network
updates using NetUp just like the legacy WWIVnet. WSS provided a
new version of NetUp for WWIVnet which has been working
perfectly sending out network updates, subs listings, and even this
WWIVnet news. This brings us back to the functionality that we had
with the legacy WWIVnet. It has been well over a decade since this was
possible.

I am completely honored to be a part of such an excellent group of
people that have done so much for WWIV and WWIVnet in the past few
years. Highlighting the past few months as just nothing short of
incredible with the move to NetworkB (BinkP). That was as huge of a
change for WWIVnet as when we started moving network packets using
Frank Reid's PPP Project (SMTP).

This has been a very fun road for our hobby and I'm very excited for
what the future holds. I'm sure as more people discover our
milestones, additional people will re-connect and join our fantastic
group. We will also not forget Eli and all the hard work he did to
start the WWIVnet comeback.

Here is a toast to the bright future of WWIV and WWIVnet!

- Weatherman (Mark) 1@1.WWIVnet
=======================================================================
WWIV 5.1 Release Goals
By Rushfan 1@514

Main Themes
~~~~~~~~~~~
Messages and WWIVNet have always been at the heart of WWIV. For 5.1, I
plan on modernizing and improving the internal code quality of the
messaging code, making it easier to embed into new tools. Included in
this will be support for the JAM Message Base format to broaden the
range of tools available for exposing message bases.

More on JAM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAM_Message_Base_Format

Net38 will be finalized [currently Beta 6] and released supporting any
new changes to get WWIVNet functioning in the Internet era.

See all of the work targeted to Milestone 5.1 on GitHub:
http://git.io/vRrOM

=======================================================================
WWIV Links and Information
WWIC 5.0 Team Site http://www.wwivbbs.org
WWIV BBS List http://wwivbbs.rtfd.org/en/latest/WWIV_BBS_list
WWIV 5.0 Documentation http://wwivbbs.readthedocs.org
WWIVNews Archive http://wwivbbs.rtfd.org/en/latest/WWIVNews
WWIV IRC irc://irc.ospreynet.info:6667/wwiv
=======================================================================

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

Raspberry Pi *is* an ARM SoC device. If you know it will run on RPi, do
you have an available RPi version?

I asked and found out that WWIV will run on the Raspberry Pi, but there are some caveats at the moment. The BBS itself runs fine from what people have tested, but the network software (for WWIVnet) is still native DOS.

Linux sysops are getting around this by running DOSemu for the network software, but it is unclear if this will work on the Raspberry Pi.

Asking about plans for porting the network software to Linux - but some issues surround that due to Wayne Bell not allowing the nework software to be open source. There have been plans for a total re-write to get around this.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

21 Dec 15 12:40, you wrote to Mark Hofmann:

I've blown away my Synchronet bbs. Would be very much willing to be
part of this. (synchronet ok, but I got rid of it to try something else.

errrmmm... you can run more than one at a time, ya know? i've got

1 RA/FD/FE
1 mystic (point system)
1 mystic (full node hosted for someone else)
1 synchronet (full node hosted for someone else)
1 dbridge (point system)
1 taurus/fmail/timed (point system)

reading fidonet has never been so enjoyable! ;) :lol: [/facetious]

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Tomato paste: what you use to fix broken tomatoes.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

06 Jan 16 11:56, you wrote to Darryl Perry:

Asking about plans for porting the network software to Linux - but some issues surround that due to Wayne Bell not allowing the nework software to be open source. There have been plans for a total re-write to get around this.

reverse engineering the protocol should be no problem in this day in time... especially with the ability to capture the entire session in a pcap file for analysis... once the protocol is understood, a new binary can easily be written... but then again, you could dump all the old stuff and come up with a whole new protocol... IIRC, WWIV's message stuffs were originally very close to
usenet news type stuffs... perhaps it is simply the IHAVE/SENDME stuff from yesteryear? again, a pcap will tell all ;)

)\/(ark

... The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

On 01/06/16, Mark Hofmann said the following...

Raspberry Pi *is* an ARM SoC device. If you know it will run on RPi, d you have an available RPi version?

I asked and found out that WWIV will run on the Raspberry Pi, but there are some caveats at the moment. The BBS itself runs fine from what
people have tested, but the network software (for WWIVnet) is still
native DOS.

Do you have to compile it from source?

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (1:106/324)

21 Dec 15 12:40, you wrote to Mark Hofmann:

I've blown away my Synchronet bbs. Would be very much willing to be part of this. (synchronet ok, but I got rid of it to try something

else.

errrmmm... you can run more than one at a time, ya know? i've got

1 RA/FD/FE
1 mystic (point system)
1 mystic (full node hosted for someone else)
1 synchronet (full node hosted for someone else)
1 dbridge (point system)
1 taurus/fmail/timed (point system)

reading fidonet has never been so enjoyable! ;) :lol: [/facetious]

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When

you've

killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and

when

you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to

do

with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect

your

glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Tomato paste: what you use to fix broken tomatoes.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Yes, I have wildcat running with vadv on one system, mystic and wwiv on
another system and pcboard on a Windows 10 64bit pc in Oracle's Virtual
Box. But the Synchronet was on a server I sold and did not save the
setup (to my regret)

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

Do you have to compile it from source?

No, it appears they have a compiled version for download available from www.wwivbbs.org.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

On 01/07/16, Mark Hofmann said the following...

Do you have to compile it from source?

No, it appears they have a compiled version for download available from www.wwivbbs.org.

Ah, but they are only for Windows and x86 Linux which precludes any ARM
devices like the Raspberry Pi.

So I guess that answers that question.

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (1:106/324)

07 Jan 16 10:01, you wrote to me:

But the Synchronet was on a server I sold and did not save the setup
(to my regret)

i was only going by your other statement which seemed to indicate that you got rid of the software, not the machine... i knew you had done mystic at one time but i wasn't sure if you still did... i've got a couple of others i'm thinking about bringing up to see what they're like... while i hate to do it, i'm probably going to be forced to leave my beloved RA/FD/FE setup behind and move to something native to modern OSes (hint: linux) that definitely has offline mail capabilities and i'm really wanting bluewave compatibility also for my users... of the few doors that i have installed, scrabble and king of the board
are really the only two that see any action... so those two are must haves, as well, and that means dosemu for them... hopefully without the problems that others have seen running them in dosemu...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Chicken Little was right.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

07 Jan 16 10:01, you wrote to me:

But the Synchronet was on a server I sold and did not save the setup (to my regret)

i was only going by your other statement which seemed to indicate that you

got

rid of the software, not the machine... i knew you had done mystic at one

time

but i wasn't sure if you still did... i've got a couple of others i'm

thinking

about bringing up to see what they're like... while i hate to do it, i'm probably going to be forced to leave my beloved RA/FD/FE setup behind and

move

to something native to modern OSes (hint: linux) that definitely has offline mail capabilities and i'm really wanting bluewave compatibility also for my users... of the few doors that i have installed, scrabble and king of the

board

are really the only two that see any action... so those two are must haves,

as

well, and that means dosemu for them... hopefully without the problems that others have seen running them in dosemu...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When

you've

killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and

when

you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to

do

with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect

your

glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Chicken Little was right.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Guess I was not clear that the machine went, but it was a rush job, this financial org was in a hot spot and needed to prove they had a back up
machine ready to go in less than 24 hrs if they completely lost their
server (only have one) and they did not and could not invest online back
up service. They only have dsl where they are at so I proposed setting
up this older server I was playing with and didn't need, so they bought
the windows server os and I setup and got their financial program
running which requires a domain server with sql. We met the deadline
and they are happy. That was in December, the worst time of year to get
things done in a hurry.

Anyways I have though about Linux, but am so green that I've been
hesistant of trying (green to Linux). I bit my teeth on command line
with the old dos 2.11 and more comfortable getting thins done at the
command prompt than using the GUI, though the gui does ease certain
functions, but I like my cmd/bat files.

I've tried all the bbs software, almost and wwiv is one I have not and
am trying out. Mostly because it is so different than the other
packages. Ezycon is one I have not tried but from what I have seen it
fits into most of how the others are setup. So far Mystic is my
favorite. I use it to feed my other bbs's as points.

Wildcat I hang onto because I am so vested in it, it is ridiculous on
the amount of money I have spent on it. But the WinServer portion is
great and has been worth the money to maintain and update. Though I
have not paid for updating in about a year but have not seen anything I
want to spend the money on updating my current setup.

Well off to work I go. See ya later.



--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

Asking about plans for porting the network software to Linux - but
some issues surround that due to Wayne Bell not allowing the nework software to be open source. There have been plans for a total
re-write to get around this.

also the possiblity of JAM message bases so you can run local and fido based message areas with little or no problem in the future.
But that is a 6 month+ goal.

... [CE] Think Diffrent(TM) Call a BBS today!

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: Inland Utopia BBS (1:218/109.0)

RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote in a message to mark lewis:

and am trying out. Mostly because it is so different than the other packages. Ezycon is one I have not tried but from what I have seen

Ezy is great! ;) That's what I run here... It's funny I was a WINS sysop and
like you had a lot of money invested in it. The fido side crashed once to often requiring me to re build the entire message echo's and I said forget it.
Another sysop was running ezycom and I thought why not, everything in one. Been with it for a few years now and won't ever change.

Shawn

... Organization is the enemy of improvisation.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

On 01/10/16 06:37 pm, Shawn Highfield wrote:

Ezy is great! ;) That's what I run here... It's funny I was a WINS sysop

and

like you had a lot of money invested in it. The fido side crashed once to often requiring me to re build the entire message echo's and I said forget

it.

Another sysop was running ezycom and I thought why not, everything in one. Been with it for a few years now and won't ever change.

Hmm, have not had that problem -- YET. The only problem I do seem to be having is sometimes messages from Mystic-based BBSes get tossed with no
text in the body of the messages. It's weird.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
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ROBERT WOLFE wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

Hmm, have not had that problem -- YET. The only problem I do seem
to be having is sometimes messages from Mystic-based BBSes get
tossed with no text in the body of the messages. It's weird.

That is strange. Don't worry though if you ask it won't be a problem with PX, that is a perfect program with no bugs. (Laugh)

Shawn
... You can tell when politicians are lying...They move their lips.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote in a message to mark lewis:

and am trying out. Mostly because it is so different than the other packages. Ezycon is one I have not tried but from what I have seen

Ezy is great! ;) That's what I run here... It's funny I was a WINS sysop

and

like you had a lot of money invested in it. The fido side crashed once to often requiring me to re build the entire message echo's and I said forget

it.

Another sysop was running ezycom and I thought why not, everything in one. Been with it for a few years now and won't ever change.

Shawn

... Organization is the enemy of improvisation.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

Good to hear! I believe it has its owm tosser, etc, but you still need
a front end app to get the pkt. Is that correct? If so what would you recommend? I use Irex for my WINS setup, it is ok. I like Mystic
because it has it all, binkp front end and toss'es mail and files.
/s
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

On 01/11/16 08:39 am, RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote:

Good to hear! I believe it has its owm tosser, etc, but you still need
a front end app to get the pkt. Is that correct? If so what would you recommend? I use Irex for my WINS setup, it is ok. I like Mystic
because it has it all, binkp front end and toss'es mail and files.

It does have its own tosser and scanner/packer, but you still need
something like Internet Rex to transport the mail packets. I am going
to be setting up Ezy as a point system using SGMail as the front end
mailer to answer incoming VMODEM connections :) Just having that pesky
little problem with EZYMAIL (running 2.15g3 of Ezy right now as that is
the only thing I can even get REMOTELY to run).
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * Memphis TN * neptune.ddns.net (1:116/18)

ROBERT WOLFE wrote in a message to RUBEN FIGUEROA:

It does have its own tosser and scanner/packer, but you still need something like Internet Rex to transport the mail packets. I am

Irex, binkd, anything like that works fine.

having that pesky little problem with EZYMAIL (running 2.15g3 of
Ezy right now as that is the only thing I can even get REMOTELY to
run).

What ezymail problem are you having?

Shawn
... The manner in which it is given is worth more than the gift.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

What ezymail problem are you having?

I was having an issue with it showing up an invalid compression config for 9:0,
but fixed that. The only "issue" I am having right now is that I have to load the 2gbfix TSR before running EZYMail, otherwise the disk check will fail and not toss any messages. But, looks like that for right now seems to be a non-issue at the moment. I was also able to get SGMail 4.0 set up to handle the
incoming calls becase for some reason after dropping SIO2k's VX00.SYS in favor of BNU, Ezy was not dropping DTR when a user logged off. SGMail fixes that issue.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair/2 * os2bbs.ddns.org * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

On 01/11/16 08:39 am, RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote:

Good to hear! I believe it has its owm tosser, etc, but you still need
a front end app to get the pkt. Is that correct? If so what would you recommend? I use Irex for my WINS setup, it is ok. I like Mystic
because it has it all, binkp front end and toss'es mail and files.

It does have its own tosser and scanner/packer, but you still need something like Internet Rex to transport the mail packets. I am going
to be setting up Ezy as a point system using SGMail as the front end
mailer to answer incoming VMODEM connections :) Just having that pesky little problem with EZYMAIL (running 2.15g3 of Ezy right now as that is
the only thing I can even get REMOTELY to run).
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * Memphis TN * neptune.ddns.net (1:116/18)

I've got SGMail 4.0 somewhere, that's an Internet Mailer, or do you
still need something like Irex to send and receive mail packets?

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

I've got SGMail 4.0 somewhere, that's an Internet Mailer, or do you
still need something like Irex to send and receive mail packets?

Check out my abandonware page:

http://outpostbbs.net/abandonware.html

I was a beta tester for SGMail 3 and 4 under OS/2. I have both versions available for download, the missing online documentation for SGMail (when
you press F1 in the program), a FAQ from when I was running SGMail that mentions a few things that aren't in the docs, plus Brent's official SGMail freeware 255-line key (I still have my beta key for SGMail and Shotgum Professional BBS).

Personally, I prefer SGMail 3 because SGMail 4 was designed for the non-existant Shotgun v4 BBS that Brent was once working on...and it was amazing. Wish he'd finished that code, but he deleted it instead...

--Sean



--- MBSE BBS v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux-i386)
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

12 Jan 16 09:17, you wrote to Shawn Highfield:

What ezymail problem are you having?

I was having an issue with it showing up an invalid compression config for 9:0, but fixed that.

you originally postead about 0:0, though...

The only "issue" I am having right now is that I have to load the
2gbfix TSR before running EZYMail,

that's not an ""issue""... that's standard for 16 bit comms in the OS/2 world... you can't find this in winwhatever cr4p...

otherwise the disk check will fail and not toss any messages.

simply because the size is larger than max allowed...

But, looks like that for right now seems to be a non-issue at the
moment. I was also able to get SGMail 4.0 set up to handle the
incoming calls becase for some reason after dropping SIO2k's VX00.SYS
in favor of BNU, Ezy was not dropping DTR when a user logged off.
SGMail fixes that issue.

which SIO?? the two available versions are way different...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... On Marks & Spencer bread pudding: Product will be hot after heating.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Re: WWIV 5.0 Release + News.

Ezy is great! ;) That's what I run here... It's funny I was a WINS sysop a
like you had a lot of money invested in it. The fido side crashed once to often requiring me to re build the entire message echo's and I said forget it
Another sysop was running ezycom and I thought why not, everything in one. Been with it for a few years now and won't ever change.
Shawn

Shawn, Ezy is pretty interesting. I got it up and running and figured out
how to telnet it with Net2BBS/netfoss but when I looked at the fido setup in the manual, it sort of freaked me out. I still have it in a different directory.

jah

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--- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
* Origin: Alpha Centauri BBS (1:322/757)

Shawn, Ezy is pretty interesting. I got it up and running and
figured out
how to telnet it with Net2BBS/netfoss but when I looked at the
fido setup in
the manual, it sort of freaked me out. I still have it in a
different
directory.

I've got it all running here. So far so good at moving everything over to the new setup. All these late-night Skype sessions with the developer have been extremely helpful, and the Fido setup is not that daunting a task. FWIW, I was
just able to get GameSRV up and running with Stephen Gibbs' help this evening (I am connected to my BBS via telnet as I type this message). Works very nicely. Now to just finish getting all of my other networks put into place :)

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair/2 * os2bbs.ddns.org * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

Jim Haight wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

Shawn, Ezy is pretty interesting. I got it up and running and
figured out how to telnet it with Net2BBS/netfoss but when I looked
at the fido setup in the manual, it sort of freaked me out. I still
have it in a different directory.

The fido setup is soooo easy in ezy. You basically set the message area up once, and tell it it's echomail and ezycom / ezymail will do it all for ya. :)

The manual is very detailed... I'd ignore it and pretend you're setting up something like Fastecho and RA instead and it will all make sense. ;)

Keep playing it works great, is super fast and more stable then anything else
I've run (and I ran Maximus / Squish for years!)

Shawn
... I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

Jim Haight wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

Shawn, Ezy is pretty interesting. I got it up and running and
figured out how to telnet it with Net2BBS/netfoss but when I looked
at the fido setup in the manual, it sort of freaked me out. I still
have it in a different directory.

The fido setup is soooo easy in ezy. You basically set the message area

up

once, and tell it it's echomail and ezycom / ezymail will do it all for ya.

:)

The manual is very detailed... I'd ignore it and pretend you're setting up something like Fastecho and RA instead and it will all make sense. ;)

Keep playing it works great, is super fast and more stable then anything

else

I've run (and I ran Maximus / Squish for years!)

Shawn
... I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file
base?
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)

18 Jan 16 08:40, you wrote to Shawn Highfield:

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file
base?

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up message and file
areas, don't you? if the mail/file tosser can do it, it is better to let them do it so that areas are created /only/ if there's any traffic in them... why create 100 empty areas when you don't need them at all? this falls in line with
not doing an areafix/filefix for "*" or "ALL"...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Cat, get your butt away from the keyb/m kvxcg;fzhd‼♦♠xc jzske NO CARRIER ---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Keep playing it works great, is super fast and more stable then anything else I've run (and I ran Maximus / Squish for years!)

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP addresses
in GameSrv...

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * neptune.ddns.net * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file
base?

Currently, I do not believe so. However, it DOES have the ability to automatically create new areas based on area templating when tossing
echomail.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * neptune.ddns.net * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file
base?

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up message and file areas, don't you? if the mail/file tosser can do it, it is better to let them do it so that areas are created /only/ if there's any traffic in them... why create 100 empty areas when you don't need them at all? this falls in line with not doing an areafix/filefix for "*" or "ALL"...

This is the way I *USED* to do it. Now I just set up one echomail
area I know I am connected to as a template for all new areas in that
same network and that way when EZYMAIL tosses mail into other areas I
have not set up yet that have messages, all I need to do is go back in
an rename the areas that were autocreated for aesthetics sake.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * neptune.ddns.net * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

Hello mark,

which SIO?? the two available versions are way different...

Ray Gwinn told me not to use SIO2K. I listened to him and used SIO 1.60d for nearly 20 years without problems, but people won't listen to me.

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20150715
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Hello mark,

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up message

There's no such "proper" way as each system is individualized and set up as to how the sysop likes.

Ease up on the soapbox.

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20150715
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

17 Jan 16 21:58, you wrote to Shawn Highfield:

Keep playing it works great, is super fast and more stable then
anything else I've run (and I ran Maximus / Squish for years!)

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP addresses
in GameSrv...

that's what your firewall is for... instead of putting that type of work load on your server, put it to the protection device that is designed to do the job ;)

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Language: A system of organizing and defining error messages.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

18 Jan 16 21:58, you wrote to me:

which SIO?? the two available versions are way different...

Ray Gwinn told me not to use SIO2K. I listened to him and used SIO
1.60d for nearly 20 years without problems, but people won't listen to
me.

i've always used 1.60d other than some few earlier versions... i've looked at SIO2k a few times but based on others' experiances, i've never fully deployed it with my DOS based software load...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... "Gledlig jul og godt Nytt Aar." - Norse-Danish Christmas
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

18 Jan 16 22:00, you wrote to me:

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up message

There's no such "proper" way as each system is individualized and set
up as to how the sysop likes.

where that was coming from is that some package, some many years back, came up with a method of importing the backbone.na file directly into the bbs system to
configure all the message areas... that led to systems with improper security with regard to sysop only and other similar type areas (aka regional only, zonal only, net only, etc)... that led to ""leaking"" of certain areas and those areas are still leaking today because no one has gone back and "FixedTheirShit<tm>" ;) kinda like those bbs-in-a-box archives... unzip it, change one or two things and hey! you're a sysop!

Ease up on the soapbox.

no soapbox here...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... I'm *not* losing my hair...I'm growing a solar panel ;*)
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file
base?

Sure does. ezyutil -FIDONETNA -L<text file> -S<start conference>
-T<template conference>

Done in no time! ;)

Shawn
... Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

mark lewis wrote in a message to RUBEN FIGUEROA:

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up
message and file areas, don't you? if the mail/file tosser can do
it, it is better to let them do it so that areas are created /only/
if there's any traffic in them... why create 100 empty areas when
you don't need them at all? this falls in line with not doing an areafix/filefix for "*" or "ALL"...

You could also just allow ezycom to auto create the areas Ruben when it tosses them.

Shawn
... I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP
addresses in GameSrv...

I use a firewall for that. I suppose another way would be to use Sync or Mystic to launch your dos bbs software... I /think/ they have the option to auto block IP's don't they?

Shawn



... The only good government.is a bad one in a hell of a fright.
--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - Oshawa, ON, CA - http://tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)

19 Jan 16 05:00, you wrote to me:

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up
message and file areas, don't you? if the mail/file tosser can do it,
it is better to let them do it so that areas are created /only/ if
there's any traffic in them... why create 100 empty areas when you
don't need them at all? this falls in line with not doing an
areafix/filefix for "*" or "ALL"...

You could also just allow ezycom to auto create the areas Ruben when
it tosses them.

that's the better way... i described it above ;)

)\/(ark

... Pre production planning prevents poor Performance!
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Re: WWIV 5.0 Release + News.
By: Shawn Highfield to Robert Wolfe on Tue Jan 19 2016 06:32 am

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP
addresses in GameSrv...

I use a firewall for that. I suppose another way would be to use Sync or Mystic to launch your dos bbs software... I /think/ they have the option to auto block IP's don't they?

Mystic does (if you want it too) and it works a treat. Synchronet has an ip.can and IIRC an ip-silent.can that you can add troublsome IPs to.

I'm not sure if Syncronet can auto add ip's to either of those files since I'm not quite up on all of that yet.

Ttyl :-),
Al
--- SBBSecho 2.32-Linux
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada - trmb.ca (1:153/757)

Ray Gwinn told me not to use SIO2K. I listened to him and used SIO 1.60d for
nearly 20 years without problems, but people won't listen to me.

I'm still using SIO 1.60d to this day (right now). That is how I'm telnetted into my BBS at the current moment.

I was so happy to find that the SIO drivers work in a VM! It is a virtualized virtual serial port. :)

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

There's no such "proper" way as each system is individualized and set up
as to
how the sysop likes.

Ease up on the soapbox.

There is certainly nothing standard about my BBS setup. Maybe when I first started along time ago, but these days it is difficult for me at times to figure out all the things I have going on over here.

Lots of moving parts and lots of different programs holding it all together.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

18 Jan 16 08:40, you wrote to Shawn Highfield:

Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file base?

you do know that that's not really the proper way to do set up message and

file

areas, don't you? if the mail/file tosser can do it, it is better to let

them

do it so that areas are created /only/ if there's any traffic in them... why create 100 empty areas when you don't need them at all? this falls in line

with

not doing an areafix/filefix for "*" or "ALL"...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When

you've

killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and

when

you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to

do

with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect

your

glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Cat, get your butt away from the keyb/m kvxcg;fzhd‼♦♠xc jzske NO

CARRIER

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You're right about that, but I figure import and then remove dead areas
would be easier.

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Does Ezy have capability of importing na files for message and file base?

Currently, I do not believe so. However, it DOES have the ability to automatically create new areas based on area templating when tossing echomail.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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Thanks for the info. I noticed you are running Ezy 3.0 and on website
that version is not available. Where can I get the lastest version?
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Ray Gwinn told me not to use SIO2K. I listened to him and used SIO 1.60d for
nearly 20 years without problems, but people won't listen to me.

I tried, but could never get it to work, and SIO2K always worked for
me under ECS 2.2/

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * neptune.ddns.net * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP addresses
in GameSrv...

that's what your firewall is for... instead of putting that type of work load on your server, put it to the protection device that is designed to do the job ;)

Unfortunately, that is not an option in this case.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP
addresses in GameSrv...

I use a firewall for that. I suppose another way would be to use Sync or Mystic to launch your dos bbs software... I /think/ they have the option to auto block IP's don't they?

Stephen Gibbs told me how to set up IP blocking in GameServ and it
works just fine :)

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James Coyle wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

It has a built in matrix login menu so you can create a BBS software
menu without requiring the user to log in. You can also use MPL to
script a menu or do whatever you'd like without requiring user
login.

I thought it could do this. ;) I started setting it up originally for the matrix. I'm going to go back to work on this.

Shawn
... Beam me aboard, Scotty! How about A 2x4, sir??
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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Thanks for the info. I noticed you are running Ezy 3.0 and on website that version is not available. Where can I get the lastest version?

Which website are you trying to get Ezy 3.00 from? I was able to get
my copy directly from http://www.ezycom-bbs.com/files.html without any problems.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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Thanks for the info. I noticed you are running Ezy 3.0 and on website that version is not available. Where can I get the lastest version?

Which website are you trying to get Ezy 3.00 from? I was able to get
my copy directly from http://www.ezycom-bbs.com/files.html without any problems.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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I will check there.
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--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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Thanks for the info. I noticed you are running Ezy 3.0 and on website that version is not available. Where can I get the lastest version?

Which website are you trying to get Ezy 3.00 from? I was able to get
my copy directly from http://www.ezycom-bbs.com/files.html without any problems.

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
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I got it thanks.
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Robert,

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP addresses
in GameSrv...

Would the "PeerBlock" program take care of that?? I've got Net2BBS with NetFoss over here as a frontend to GT Power 20, and with the recent configurations, I'm able to better filter out port scanners, and just add IP addresses into a kill file.

Daryl

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* PDQWK 2.53 #5


--- GTMail 1.26
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Sean,

Ray Gwinn told me not to use SIO2K. I listened to him and used SIO 1.60d fo SD>nearly 20 years without problems, but people won't listen to me.

I used the SIO 1.60d myself, and I think I had even registered it, back when I ran OS/2 Warp...but that was years ago. :P

Daryl

---
* OLX 1.53 * 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
* PDQWK 2.53 #5


--- GTMail 1.26
* Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org - GT Power 20 (1:19/33.0)

I am liking it, too :) Now to just figure out how block IP addresses RW>>in GameSrv...

Would the "PeerBlock" program take care of that?? I've got Net2BBS with NetFoss over here as a frontend to GT Power 20, and with the recent configurations, I'm able to better filter out port scanners, and just add IP addresses into a kill file.

Possibly, but I've since learned how to block IP addresses in GS :)

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB0027
* Origin: Neptune's Lair * neptune.ddns.net * Memphis, TN (1:116/18)

I used the SIO 1.60d myself, and I think I had even registered it, back when I ran OS/2 Warp...but that was years ago. :P

SIO was one of the rare things I registered back in the day. I can't say enough good things about that program.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

On Jan 10, 2016 05:37pm, Shawn Highfield wrote to RUBEN FIGUEROA:

Ezy is great! ;) That's what I run here... It's funny I was a WINS
sysop and like you had a lot of money invested in it. The fido side
crashed once to often requiring me to re build the entire message
echo's and I said forget it. Another sysop was running ezycom and I
thought why not, everything in one. Been with it for a few years now
and won't ever change.

Hey Shawn. Yeah, Ezy is pretty cool. I just had issues with netmail routing with multiple networks and one netmail conference -- that was my main thing with it.

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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On Jan 11, 2016 05:31am, Shawn Highfield wrote to ROBERT WOLFE:

Hmm, have not had that problem -- YET. The only problem I do seem
to be having is sometimes messages from Mystic-based BBSes get
tossed with no text in the body of the messages. It's weird.

That is strange. Don't worry though if you ask it won't be a problem
with PX, that is a perfect program with no bugs. (Laugh)

At least I don't have to worry about using multiple netmail conferences :)

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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Hello,

28 Jan 16 18:03, you wrote to me:

At least I don't have to worry about using multiple netmail
conferences :)

Hey you made it longer then I thought you would. ;) Might be a record I changed socks 4 times before you changed BBS software. hahahahaha

Shawn

... Wanted Dead or Alive: One pink rabbit with a drum.
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Shawn Highfield wrote to ROBERT WOLFE <=-

Hey you made it longer then I thought you would. ;) Might be a
record I changed socks 4 times before you changed BBS software.
hahahahaha

Someone's got to carry the torch, right? :D

--Sean


--- MultiMail/Linux
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Mark,

I used the SIO 1.60d myself, and I think I had even registered it, back MH>DS> when I ran OS/2 Warp...but that was years ago. :P

SIO was one of the rare things I registered back in the day. I can't say MH>enough good things about that program.

Too bad most of the BBS shareware authors are long gone, and most of the software is now abandonware.

Daryl

---
* OLX 1.53 * How come we never hear any father-in-law jokes?
* PDQWK 2.53 #5


--- GTMail 1.26
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DARYL STOUT (1:19/33.0) wrote to ALL <=-

I used the SIO 1.60d myself, and I think I had even registered it, back
when I ran OS/2 Warp...but that was years ago. :P

SIO was one of the rare things I registered back in the day. I can't say
enough good things about that program.

Too bad most of the BBS shareware authors are long gone, and most of the software is now abandonware.

The author if SIO sadly lost his key generator. And Im hoping D'Bridge 4 can replace Internet Rex pernamently.
... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50


--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: Inland Utopia BBS (1:218/109.0)

Too bad most of the BBS shareware authors are long gone, and most of the software is now abandonware.

Yes, but a bunch of us have been working on getting re-connected to those people on Facebook and trying to get the source to keep things alive.

We have had a decent amount of success.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

The author if SIO sadly lost his key generator. And Im hoping D'Bridge 4 can replace Internet Rex pernamently.

There is a crack out there for SIO, and I'm sure the author wouldn't mind people using that at this point in time.

I registered mine decades ago. Well worth it for that program. I have used it
longer than most any other program around.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
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03 Feb 16 10:14, you wrote to Matt Munson:

The author if SIO sadly lost his key generator. And Im hoping
D'Bridge 4 can replace Internet Rex pernamently.

There is a crack out there for SIO, and I'm sure the author wouldn't
mind people using that at this point in time.

ray gwinn already stated, more than once, that it was ok to use the crack because there can never be any updates made to the software...

I registered mine decades ago. Well worth it for that program. I
have used it longer than most any other program around.

i've others that i've used longer but yes, SIO is definitely in that list...

)\/(ark

... You multitask?? I'm writing this on the toilet!
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The author if SIO sadly lost his key generator. And Im hoping D'Bridge 4 can replace Internet Rex pernamently.

There are other alternatives, especially assuming just about everyone uses BINKP now. What capabilities of IREX are you worried about losing?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A1 (Windows)
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03 Feb 16 14:24, you wrote to MATT MUNSON:

There are other alternatives, especially assuming just about everyone
uses BINKP now. What capabilities of IREX are you worried about
losing?

The first thing that comes to mind for me, of the irex many useful features is a built in file request processor. If one perfers to use Frontdoor or Allfix built-in request processor, you can just plugin the correct command line switches. Then irex will use whatever freq program when it receive a netmail from a node with the frq flag in the kludge line. Irex pdf manual explains it pretty darn good.. I admit that very few ever use it his days, never the less it does come in handy for systems running a network or even sending out password protected data via binkd or ftp. It can also do the samething with email.
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Mark,

Too bad most of the BBS shareware authors are long gone, and most of the MH>DS> software is now abandonware.

Yes, but a bunch of us have been working on getting re-connected to those MH>people on Facebook and trying to get the source to keep things alive.

We have had a decent amount of success.

That is encouraging. Doug Rhea of bbsfiles.com had been doing similar things.
I was lucky enough to register most everything I have on the BBS, before the authors "vanished", or ended support.

Daryl

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* PDQWK 2.53 #5


--- GTMail 1.26
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That is encouraging. Doug Rhea of bbsfiles.com had been doing similar things. I was lucky enough to register most everything I have on the BBS, before the authors "vanished", or ended support.

In some cases the most difficult part is finding the author. We have been able
to accumulate the source code to many major WWIV programs. Then the work begins to ensure they will work with things today.

One cool program one of the crew is working on is a "WWIVnet Status List" showing all the systems in WWIVnet and the version they are running along with if they are online, etc. That code will eventually be hosted my me once it is completely ready to go live.

- Mark

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There is a crack out there for SIO, and I'm sure the author wouldn't
mind people using that at this point in time.

ray gwinn already stated, more than once, that it was ok to use the crack >because there can never be any updates made to the software...

I registered mine decades ago. Well worth it for that program. I
have used it longer than most any other program around.

i've others that i've used longer but yes, SIO is definitely in that list...

The last time I talked to Ray I told him about Blue Lion and he said that if there was enough interest, he would consider resurrecting SIO or SIO2K.

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The last time I talked to Ray I told him about Blue Lion and he said that if there was enough interest, he would consider resurrecting SIO or
SIO2K.

Is Blue Lion version 2.2? If so, I am running one of the latest 2.2 betas over
here with SIO with no problems.

Actually, this is the first version of OS/2 that has a pretty stable Samba sharing build in. There was serious bugs in EVFS which would cause OS/2 to crash randomly when mapping a share to another system.

That seems to be mostly fixed in 2.2 with one minor caveat. If you have a mapped drive from 2.2 to lets say Windows 7. Then you reboot the Windows 7 VM or system - 2.2 will crash with a JFS error.

It happens consistantly and probably another issue with EVFS. Minor, since if I reboot that VM, I will just reboot OS/2 afterwards. Much better than random issues that were happening before all the time.

I could map drives for the BBS *FROM* Windows 7 to OS/2 - no stability issues. It was only when it was from OS/2 to Windows.

It wasn't a Samba bug, but EVFS. There is also a big bug in OS/2 2.1 - where the DOS session copy command will not work (will error). You can only copy via
OS/2 command prompt. That is also fixed in 2.2.

- Mark

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Is Blue Lion version 2.2? If so, I am running one of the latest 2.2 betas >over here with SIO with no problems.

Version 2.2 is eComStation. Blue Lion is 100% code licensed from IBM by a company called Arca Noae, which is an IBM Business Partner.

More info is here:

https://www.arcanoae.com/blue-lion-go/

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Version 2.2 is eComStation. Blue Lion is 100% code licensed from IBM by a company called Arca Noae, which is an IBM Business Partner.

More info is here:

https://www.arcanoae.com/blue-lion-go/

I'm not sure I follow what is going on. So there is another company doing a different branch of the original OS/2 which is not eComStation?

I like what has been done with eComStation. The main things I would work on is
the networking. I only use it for the nodes of my BBS. That requires good networking support since all the data now resides on Windows.

eCS 2.2 seems to have a mostly solid Samba and EVFS setup - which I am very happy to report.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
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On Feb 25, 2016 08:07pm, Mark Hofmann wrote to Robert Wolfe:

https://www.arcanoae.com/blue-lion-go/

I'm not sure I follow what is going on. So there is another company
doing a different branch of the original OS/2 which is not eComStation?

Blue Lion is the original OS/2 Warp code as IBM had it. IBM sold over the rights to continue ORIGINAL OS/2 Warp development to one of their Business Partners. So, this is NOT eComStation, but in fact, REAL OS/2.

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26 Feb 16 01:01, you wrote to Mark Hofmann:

I'm not sure I follow what is going on. So there is another company
doing a different branch of the original OS/2 which is not
eComStation?

Blue Lion is the original OS/2 Warp code as IBM had it. IBM sold over
the rights to continue ORIGINAL OS/2 Warp development to one of their Business Partners. So, this is NOT eComStation, but in fact, REAL
OS/2.

eCS started in exactly the same manner... there's no work in certain areas being done as that wasn't licensed... i think the kernel is one of those areas... most everything else, though, can be worked on... i don't know about BL's licensing... they may have gone the extra distance and gotten kernel rights... either way, eCS /is/ OS/2 with slightly newer clothes...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

... Friends don't let friends drive Vista
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eCS started in exactly the same manner... there's no work in certain areas being done as that wasn't licensed... i think the kernel is one of those areas... most everything else, though, can be worked on... i don't know

about

BL's licensing... they may have gone the extra distance and gotten kernel rights... either way, eCS /is/ OS/2 with slightly newer clothes...

That is what the did -- get ALL rights -- from what I understand.
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Blue Lion is the original OS/2 Warp code as IBM had it. IBM sold over the rights to continue ORIGINAL OS/2 Warp development to one of their
Business Partners. So, this is NOT eComStation, but in fact, REAL OS/2.

So how did the people updating eCS get the OS? That is the part I'm not clear on. I do really like what the people updating eCS has done.. OS/2 really lacked networking ability for along time. The latest eCS really helps in that area.

Being able to map to Windows systems in an Active Directory domain is fantastic!

- Mark

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Mark Hofmann wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

So how did the people updating eCS get the OS? That is the part I'm
not clear on. I do really like what the people updating eCS has done..
OS/2 really lacked networking ability for along time. The latest eCS really helps in that area.

Serenity Systems licensed much of the OS from IBM. Blue Lion, from what I understand, paid a lot of money to get access to the video system and
kernel, which Microsoft has a lot of code in and doesn't like to share it.

--Sean

--- MultiMail/Linux
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Re: Re: WWIV 5.0 Release + News.
By: Mark Hofmann to Robert Wolfe on Thu Feb 25 2016 08:07 pm

I like what has been done with eComStation. The main things I would work on is the networking. I only use it for the nodes of my BBS. That requires good networking support since all the data now resides on Windows.

I'm tempted -- I was a big fan of OS/2 from 1.2 up to Warp, and loved being able to run custom DOS VDMs. Given the amount of old DOS software I'm running now it might be fun to try OS/2 again -- and resurrect my old DOS BBS!
--- SBBSecho 2.33-Win32
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Serenity Systems licensed much of the OS from IBM. Blue Lion, from what I understand, paid a lot of money to get access to the video system and kernel, which Microsoft has a lot of code in and doesn't like to share it.

But Serenity has not done anything with the code in quite some time,
though.
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28 Feb 16 00:06, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

Serenity Systems licensed much of the OS from IBM. Blue Lion, from
what I understand, paid a lot of money to get access to the video
system and kernel, which Microsoft has a lot of code in and doesn't
like to share it.

But Serenity has not done anything with the code in quite some time, though.

isn't serenity the ones that did eCS? if so, there has been work done and new drives and such released... i don't recall everything that has been done but i've seen the release announcements in the teamOS2 area, IIRC...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

... Can I play with your bellybutton?
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Jim Haight wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

Shawn, Ezy is pretty interesting. I got it up and running and
figured out how to telnet it with Net2BBS/netfoss but when I looked
at the fido setup in the manual, it sort of freaked me out. I still
have it in a different directory.

The fido setup is soooo easy in ezy. You basically set the message area up once, and tell it it's echomail and ezycom / ezymail will do it all for ya. :)

The manual is very detailed... I'd ignore it and pretend you're setting up something like Fastecho and RA instead and it will all make sense. ;)

Keep playing it works great, is super fast and more stable then anything else I've run (and I ran Maximus / Squish for years!)

Shawn
... I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB001F
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