Hello everybody.

I have posted this here a while ago, but would like to know if there is
any offline reader available around other than BlueWave or MultiMail...

I have even searched on SourceForge or GitHub, but could not find anything related to it...

Flavio

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Flavio Bessa wrote to All <=-

Hello everybody.

I have posted this here a while ago, but would like to know if there is any offline reader available around other than BlueWave or MultiMail...

I have even searched on SourceForge or GitHub, but could not
find anything related to it...

I'm using MM via Windows via Parallels on a Mac. If you find something
that's MAC native please let me know! :-)


... I had a cat once... tasted like chicken.
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
* Origin: Neptune's Lair - Olive Branch MS - winserver.org (1:116/18)

I have posted this here a while ago, but would like to know if there is any offline reader available around other than BlueWave or MultiMail...

There is SLMR, but it is older and no longer supported. It also does not
work and play well with QWK packets from some newer BBS software. For
packets from a Synchronet system, I have to use Multimail or the conference numbering is all wrong.

Mike

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--- GTMail 1.26
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I have even searched on SourceForge or GitHub, but could
find anything related to it...

I'm using MM via Windows via Parallels on a Mac. If you find
something
that's MAC native please let me know! :-)

You can download the OSX/macOS port of MultiMail 0.50 from my main BBS
:)

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Robert Wolfe wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

I have even searched on SourceForge or GitHub, but could
find anything related to it...

I'm using MM via Windows via Parallels on a Mac. If you find
something
that's MAC native please let me know! :-)

You can download the OSX/macOS port of MultiMail 0.50 from my main BBS
:)

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Is there an improvement over .49?

Kinda thinking if it ain't broke don't fix it... :-)




... Grace Period: The time it takes to ask the meal blessing.
--- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to Robert Wolfe on Sun Apr 23 2017 10:46 am

Robert Wolfe wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

I have even searched on SourceForge or GitHub, but could find anything related to it...

I'm using MM via Windows via Parallels on a Mac. If you find
something
that's MAC native please let me know! :-)

You can download the OSX/macOS port of MultiMail 0.50 from my main BBS :)

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Is there an improvement over .49?

Kinda thinking if it ain't broke don't fix it... :-)

I've found several issues in MultiMail's QWKE support. <shrug>

digital man

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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to Rob Swindell on Sat Sep 16 2017 05:03 pm

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

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IP = Internet Protocol
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RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Rob Swindell(1:103/705)

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was just saying perhaps let Rob Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to Rob Swindell on Sat Sep 16 2017 11:40 pm

RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Rob Swindell(1:103/705)

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was just saying perhaps let Rob Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

This one worked. I created a simple patch or two and tried to submit to the developer with no luck but did not continue with a complete fix.

digital man

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Michael Swindell was directly responsible for Synchronet's commercial success. Norco, CA WX: 62.8°F, 87.0% humidity, 2 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was just
saying perhaps let Rob
Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I just compiled his code.

--- Maximus/2 3.01
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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to Rob Swindell on Sat Sep 16 2017 11:40 pm

RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Rob Swindell(1:103/705)

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was
just saying perhaps let Rob
Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

This one worked. I created a simple patch or two and
tried to submit to the
developer with no luck but did not continue with a complete fix.

Rob, if you want, you can email the patch to me at my robert@os2bbs.org email address and I will see what I can do to put those patches in here on my end and
see if they work for you.

--- Maximus/2 3.01
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RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Robert Wolfe(1:116/17)

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I just compiled his code.

is he still around?

--- WWIV 5.3.0.2600
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Hello MATTHEW,

17 Sep 17 09:36 at you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I
just compiled his code.

is he still around?

Yes, he is. I've contacted him in the past year.

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Robert Wolfe(1:116/17)

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I just compiled his code.

is he still around?

As far as I can tell he is.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
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MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I just compiled his code.

is he still around?

I am sure he is.

... One good turn gets most of the blanket.
--- MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50
* Origin: Neptune's Lair - Olive Branch MS - winserver.org (1:116/17)

Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: Robert Wolfe to Rob Swindell on Sun Sep 17 2017 10:55 am

Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to Rob Swindell on Sat Sep 16 2017 11:40 pm

RE: Re: Offline Readers
BY: Rob Swindell(1:103/705)

Your message arrived here with a blank body. <shrug>

digital man

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was
just saying perhaps let Rob
Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

This one worked. I created a simple patch or two and
tried to submit to the
developer with no luck but did not continue with a complete fix.

Rob, if you want, you can email the patch to me at my robert@os2bbs.org email address and I will see what I can do to put those patches in here on my end and
see if they work for you.

I know the patches work for me as I tested them (I can build the code myself), but thanks for the offer.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #13:
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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: Robert Wolfe to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Sep 18 2017 08:10 pm

MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I just compiled his code.

is he still around?

I am sure he is.

I sent William this email in July of 2011 and never received a response:

------8<------

William,

Hi, I'm the author of Synchronet BBS software, one of the few remaining supported and developed BBS software packages and ever fewer that have internal QWK support.

Anyway, I was working on the QWKE support in Synchronet (the QWKE support was very incomplete to date) and was using Multimail (the current source snapshot of 0.50 from sourceforge) and have been trying to complete the QWKE support in Multimail (e.g. supporting "To" fields > 25 chars) and have been considering adding support for Synchronet QWK HEADERS.DAT file (which makes all the QWKE "standard" and other kludge lines unnecessary). I was curious if you are still working on Multimail, excepting patches, want to discuss what I've found so far with QWKE support, etc.?

This email address will work fine for correspondence, but I'm also often in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net (as digitalman) if you're so inclined.

Thanks for supporting BBSes and QWK!

-Rob
-----8<------

I then sent a follow-up email to teh SourceForge mailing list for MultiMail and received this reply from Jim Hanoian:

-----8<------

Sorry.... I haven't done anything with offline mail readers for several years. I don't know if William McBrine is even still alive.


Jim
-----8<------

So if William is around, I'd be happy to work with him on fixing and enhancing multimail. :-)

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
FSP = FidoNet Standards Proposal
Norco, CA WX: 67.3°F, 78.0% humidity, 3 mph N wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Hello Rob,

18 Sep 17 19:47 at you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

So if William is around, I'd be happy to work with him on fixing and enhancing multimail. :-)

Somewhere around here I have a GMail address for him. I will try to find it for you. He and I corresponded a while back about a quirk I was experiencing under Slackware due to a package I was running (the name escapes me now).

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Rob Swindell wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

I then sent a follow-up email to teh SourceForge mailing list for MultiMail and received this reply from Jim Hanoian:

-----8<------

Sorry.... I haven't done anything with offline mail readers for several years. I don't know if William McBrine is even still alive.

Jim
-----8<------

So if William is around, I'd be happy to work with him on fixing and enhancing multimail. :-)

I am following him on Facebook and the last update to his Facebook page
I saw was made on Sept. 13.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50
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Rob Swindell wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

Rob, if you want, you can email the patch to me at my robert@os2bbs.org email address and I will see what I can do to put those patches in here on my end and
see if they work for you.

I know the patches work for me as I tested them (I can build the code myself), but thanks for the offer.

Rob, I got a response from William McBrine from your post of the other
day and got a response from him. I forwarded it (I think) to your
sysop@ email address and hopefully you received it ok. If not, please
let me know with the correct email address to send it to and I will send
it again.


... All stressed out and no one to choke.
___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

--- Maximus/2 3.01
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Sean Dennis wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-

You need to contact William McBrine as he is the developer. I
just compiled his code.

is he still around?

Yes, he is. I've contacted him in the past year.

And I got two emails from him today.

... You're so vain - I bet you think this tagline's about you...
___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

--- Maximus/2 3.01
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Sean Dennis wrote to Rob Swindell <=-

Somewhere around here I have a GMail address for him. I will try to
find it for you. He and I corresponded a while back about a quirk I
was experiencing under Slackware due to a package I was running (the
name escapes me now).

wmcbrine@gmail.com is the address I think you may be looking for.

... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

--- Maximus/2 3.01
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■ Quoting message from MATTHEW MUNSON to Rob Swindell
■ [23:40 at 16-Sep-17]

I hope we dont get a blank body this time. I was just saying perhaps let Rob Wolfe know about the qwke issue so he can fix it in 0.51

I forwarded Rob's email to William McBrine last night and forwarded William's reply back to Rob this afternoon. Hopefully we can get the two connected so that any updates and bugfixes can be made :)

--- Hector/2 1.0beta
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Re: Re: Offline Readers
By: Robert Wolfe to Rob Swindell on Wed Sep 20 2017 04:56 pm

Rob Swindell wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

Rob, if you want, you can email the patch to me at my robert@os2bbs.org email address and I will see what I can do to put those patches in here on my end and
see if they work for you.

I know the patches work for me as I tested them (I can build the code myself), but thanks for the offer.

Rob, I got a response from William McBrine from your post of the other
day and got a response from him. I forwarded it (I think) to your
sysop@ email address and hopefully you received it ok. If not, please
let me know with the correct email address to send it to and I will send
it again.

I got your forwarded reply, thanks.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #34:
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Hello everybody.

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other offline mail readers available?

Flavio

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Re: Offline Readers
By: Flavio Bessa to All on Sat Mar 10 2018 02:00 pm

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other offline mail readers available?

I used to use a program called Offline for quite a while. It's a QWK reader, no blue wave. Filename is offli158.zip

It's one of Harvey Parisien's programs from back in the day.

Ttyl :-),
Al


... Is fire supposed to shoot out of it like that!?
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Flavio Bessa wrote to All <=-

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there
any other offline mail readers available?

Are you talking modern or in general? I have about 20 readers or so in my
BBS' filebase. I use Multimail on both Linux and OS/2; having the same commands and capabilities makes it easier on me. :D

--Sean


... Deja Booboo: The feeling you've screwed this up before.
--- MultiMail/Linux
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Alan Ianson wrote to Flavio Bessa <=-

I used to use a program called Offline for quite a while. It's a QWK reader, no
blue wave. Filename is offli158.zip

I have that here and have used it. It supports Maximus' "Netmail Via QWK" system natively.

--Sean


... You never know who's right, but you always know who's in charge.
--- MultiMail/Linux
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other offline mail readers available?

I use SLMR -- Silly Little Message Reader. It supports QWK but not
bluewave.

Mike

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Flavio Bessa wrote in a message to All:

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are
there any other offline mail readers available?

I have at least ten different readers in my filebase; anything in particular you're looking for?

-- Sean

--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Alan Ianson wrote in a message to Flavio Bessa:

I used to use a program called Offline for quite a while. It's a
QWK reader, no blue wave. Filename is offli158.zip

I've used it here. A very reliable program.

-- Sean

--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Outpost BBS Local Console (1:18/200)

Hello Flavio.

10 Mar 18 14:00, you wrote to All:

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there
any other offline mail readers available?

I forgot that GoldEd can be used for QWK mail but it still requires you to set up a mail tosser and you pack/unpack the QWK/REP archives by hand.

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
* Origin: Outpost BBS - bbs.outpostbbs.net (1:18/200)

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other
offline mail readers available?

I use SLMR -- Silly Little Message Reader. It supports QWK but not bluewave.

SLMR is good. Simple and easy.


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On 2018 Mar 14 09:16:36, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other
offline mail readers available?

I use SLMR -- Silly Little Message Reader. It supports QWK but not
bluewave.

SLMR is good. Simple and easy.

it also has what some would consider to be severe limitations... one being a 200 line limit...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... A thesaurus is not a dinosaur with a big vocabulary.
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On 2018 Mar 14 09:16:36, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there any other
offline mail readers available?

I use SLMR -- Silly Little Message Reader. It supports QWK but not
bluewave.

SLMR is good. Simple and easy.

it also has what some would consider to be severe limitations... one being a 200 line limit...

I did not know that. Good to know.

-----<>---| Mauro R. Veiga - abutre.no-ip.org:2323 |---<>-----
--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.7
* Origin: Point Abutre 2.1 - (4:801/189.5)

Mark,

SLMR is good. Simple and easy.

it also has what some would consider to be severe limitations... one being a ML>200 line limit...

I don't think either it or OLX can be registered anymore, either.

Daryl

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■ OLX 1.53 ■ Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
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Flavio Bessa wrote in a message to All:

Hello everybody.

Yo/2!

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are
there any other offline mail readers available?

If you are using OS/2, there is the MR/2 QWK mail reader. I wish I could find the latest version and maybe even register a copy for myself.

--- timEd/2 1.30+
* Origin: Omicron Theta/2 * Southaven, MS * os2bbs.org:2300 (1:261/20)

Sean Dennis wrote in a message to Flavio Bessa:

Flavio Bessa wrote to All <=-

Apart from the patched BlueWave, OLX or MultiMail, are there
any other offline mail readers available?

Are you talking modern or in general? I have about 20 readers or
so in my BBS' filebase. I use Multimail on both Linux and OS/2;
having the same commands and capabilities makes it easier on me. :D

Same here, but I often find myself fireing up timEd/2 on my BBS machine from time to time to read messags :)

--- timEd/2 1.30+
* Origin: Omicron Theta/2 * Southaven, MS * os2bbs.org:2300 (1:261/20)

Hello Robert.

25 Mar 18 13:12, you wrote to me:

Same here, but I often find myself fireing up timEd/2 on my BBS
machine from time to time to read messags :)

These days, I'm spending a lot more time on the BBS machine than I am away from
it when dealing with BBS stuff so I'm doing more on the local console.

Later,
Sean

--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
* Origin: Outpost BBS - bbs.outpostbbs.net (1:18/200)