Hello All.

This was crossposted into BBS_ADS (which wasn't the right echo for it), but as a favor to Dale Barnes, the author of Intermail, I'm posting this in here.

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This is being cross posted so please share this among other sysops please:


Fidonet Technology Survey
by Dale Barnes, 1:220/60

Public Survey created by Dale Barnes and the purpose of the survey is to determine what FTN software is used by everyone. Looking for your feedback on any new or other ideas you may wish for. Authors of other FTN systems were provided early review of the survey for their feedback and some provided further questions to this survey.

This information may be helpful for those that are still doing development work to support the FTN systems.

The survey is hosted via Google Forms:

https://goo.gl/forms/UNicWNFbCt4W79Jt1

The survey results will be provided on the www.intermail.net site once the results are in. We will leave the Survey active for the month of April to collect all the data for this round.

The list of systems in this survey does not include as a selection for every system that has been developed, so if you see your system not listed, please provide via the "Other" option. In future surveys, will try to include all the active systems that exist.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the survey.


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Later,
Sean

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This was crossposted into BBS_ADS (which wasn't the right
echo for it), but as a favor to Dale Barnes, the author of
Intermail, I'm posting this in here.

Thanks for spreading the word. Not sure who posted into BBS_ADS as I do not recall posting in that area but again, at my age anything is possible!!

Let me know if there is anything I can offer help with or just point me to where the fun is these days!


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Dale,

Thanks for spreading the word. Not sure who posted into BBS_ADS as I do not DB>recall posting in that area but again, at my age anything is possible!!

Let me know if there is anything I can offer help with or just point me to DB>where the fun is these days!

I've got to go back and get the original link for that...too much
other stuff on the BBS that had to come first...especially with an area
of thunderstorms approaching right now.

BTW, I registered and used both InterMail and InterEcho when I ran GT
Power under dial-up for 13 years, and really enjoyed them!!

Daryl

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Dale Barnes wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

Let me know if there is anything I can offer help with or just
point me to where the fun is these days!

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Hey there! Nice to see you participating in Fido again :)

Peace,
Robert

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Daryl Stout wrote in a message to DALE BARNES:

BTW, I registered and used both InterMail and InterEcho when I
ran GT Power under dial-up for 13 years, and really enjoyed them!!

One of the things I loved about InterEcho was that it had support for Wildcat! 4.x message bases -- something that I hope will remain as it would allow me to ditch PX/DOS like a bad habit :)

Peace,
Robert

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Hey there! Nice to see you participating in Fido again :)

Glad to be back. :) Its funny how much of the stuff I had forgot how to do. Found myself having to read manuals and specs again. LOL


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One of the things I loved about InterEcho was that it had
support for Wildcat!
4.x message bases -- something that I hope will remain as
it would allow me to
ditch PX/DOS like a bad habit :)

Yep, v4 should remain if I can get the third party toolbox updated to run in Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it can remain with no issue. :)


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Dale,

Yep, v4 should remain if I can get the third party toolbox updated to run in DB>Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it can DB>remain with no issue. :)

I remember having a neat display with the color selections for both.
Since Synchronet has its own tosser, I don't use my DOS versions of
InterMail and InterEcho...but still have my registered copies in case I
need them at a later date.

Daryl

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One of the things I loved about InterEcho was that it had > support for

Wildcat! > 4.x message bases -- something that I hope will remain as > it would allow me to > ditch PX/DOS like a bad habit :) >
Yep, v4 should remain if I can get the third party toolbox updated to run in Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it can remain with no issue. :)

Does this include current version of wildcat or just version 4. Also is InterEcho available for registration?

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One of the things I loved about InterEcho was that it had
support for Wildcat!
4.x message bases -- something that I hope will remain as
it would allow me to
ditch PX/DOS like a bad habit :)

Yep, v4 should remain if I can get the third party toolbox updated to run in ->Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it can ->remain with no issue. :)

Keep the DOS version if you could, because ArcaOS does not like Win32 stuff :)



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Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it

can

remain with no issue. :)

Does this include current version of wildcat or just
version 4. Also is
InterEcho available for registration?

I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current version of WC?

When I release it again, there will be no registration process since I do not see any $$$ in fidonet.


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Yep, v4 should remain if I can get the third party toolbox updated to run in
Windows 32/64. Unless you prefer the DOS version of InterEcho, then it can
remain with no issue. :)

Keep the DOS version if you could, because ArcaOS does not
like Win32 stuff :)

Man, DOS will simply not die! LOL

I was going to purchase ArcaOS but I really need it to run in a VMWARE system. :)


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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current version of WC?

Well WinServer is up to v7 but I don't think they've made any changes to database since v4, but I do not know for sure. Robert do you know?

I will have to check with Santronics to find out.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current versio of WC?

Well WinServer is up to v7 but I don't think they've made any changes to >database since v4, but I do not know for sure. Robert do you know?

I will have to check with Santronics to find out.

WINServer has a different format database than Wildcat! 4.x does. It has
since the v5 release.

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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current

version

of WC?

Well WinServer is up to v7 but I don't think they've made
any changes to
database since v4, but I do not know for sure. Robert do
you know?

I will have to check with Santronics to find out.

I just went thru another box and found my Wildcat5 with the developers kit. Let me take a look at the package if it will install and see what I can do.


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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current

version

of WC?

Well WinServer is up to v7 but I don't think they've made
any changes to
database since v4, but I do not know for sure. Robert do
you know?

I will have to check with Santronics to find out.

I just went thru another box and found my Wildcat5 with the developers kit. >Let me take a look at the package if it will install and see what I can do.

The SDK is sadly outdated. I know Joe Martin ported and update the C# structures.


As I stated in an older posting, the database formats changed from v4 to v5
and higher. They even changed from v5 to v6.

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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the

current> > version

of WC?

Well WinServer is up to v7 but I don't think they've

made> > any changes to

database since v4, but I do not know for sure. Robert

you know?

I will have to check with Santronics to find out.

I just went thru another box and found my Wildcat5 with the developers kit.

Let me take a look at the package if it will install and see what I can do.

Let me call Joe and ask him. I have the SDK from v5 and yes it is a bit outdated like other software I use here. :)


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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the

current> > version

of WC?

Ok, I have the code now so have to review it and play with it. If easy to use, I can include this when I release WinToss (windows tosser) since it was built for a larger number of BBS systems. I just have to build out the wrappers to use the WC api's.


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I have code for v3 and v4 WC databases. What is/was the current

version

of WC?

So do you use WC? If so, are you on the DOS version or windows version?


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Ok, I have the code now so have to review it and play with it. If easy to us

I can include this when I release WinToss (windows tosser) since it was buil >for a larger number of BBS systems. I just have to build out the wrappers t >use the WC api's.

Oh man! If you can get it to work with WINServer, I know a LOT of people
that would switch to that from PX/Wins :) Including me :) Let me know if
you need a beta tester for that :)

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a LOT of people
that would switch to that from PX/Wins :) Including me :)
Let me know if
you need a beta tester for that :)

Let me see what I can do. I am trying to find a copy of PX/Wins that someone may want to let go of. I emailed santronics but they told me it is no longer being updated.

Not sure what the last version was for WinServer.

Anyone know?


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Hello Dale.

03 Apr 18 22:00, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

I was going to purchase ArcaOS but I really need it to run in a VMWARE system. :)

I've been able to get OS/2 Warp 4.52 and eCS 1.2MR to run under a VMware Player
VM successfully so there shouldn't be any problems with ArcaOS since it's basically just an updated version of Warp 4.52 (MCP2).

Sean

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I was going to purchase ArcaOS but I really need it to run in a

VMWARE DB> system. :)

I've been able to get OS/2 Warp 4.52 and eCS 1.2MR to run under a VMware Player VM successfully so there shouldn't be any problems with ArcaOS
since it's basically just an updated version of Warp 4.52 (MCP2).

Mine runs fine in both vmware fusion on mac and decently on vmware player (but my 4k display makes the os window small, but tha't just because vmware is lame on high res displays)


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Re: FTN Survey
By: Sean Dennis to Dale Barnes on Sun Apr 08 2018 09:34 am

I've been able to get OS/2 Warp 4.52 and eCS 1.2MR to run under a VMware Player VM successfully so there shouldn't be any problems with ArcaOS since it's basically just an updated version of Warp 4.52 (MCP2).

Did you have to tweak VMWare? I thought OS/2 did some things that made it hard to virtualize.
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Hello Kurt,

19 Apr 18 11:41 at you wrote to me:

Did you have to tweak VMWare? I thought OS/2 did some things that made
it hard to virtualize.

I can't remember now but Virtualbox was much better as you are correct about OS/2: it uses some archaic CPU functions that VMware doesn't emulate correctly.

Later,
Sean

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Re: FTN Survey
By: Dale Barnes to Sean Dennis on Mon Mar 26 2018 09:52 pm

Thanks for spreading the word. Not sure who posted into BBS_ADS as I do not recall posting in that area but again, at my age anything is possible!!

Are there any results from the survey available.

Just curious.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Re: FTN Survey
By: Dale Barnes to Sean Dennis on Mon Mar 26 2018 09:52
pm

Thanks for spreading the word. Not sure who posted into BBS_ADS as I do
not recall posting in that area but again, at my age anything is
possible!!

Are there any results from the survey available.

Just curious.. :)

Yes, out of 1100 nodes we only had about 66 folks respond. Not sure if they did not want to or did not know about it. Will get the results posted as a CSV
file and folks can download it and review what exists this weekend. I left it up longer in hope that more would respond but no joy... sigh.


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Hello Dale,

09 May 18 21:34 at you wrote to Alan Ianson:

Yes, out of 1100 nodes we only had about 66 folks respond. Not sure
if they did not want to or did not know about it. Will get the
results posted as a CSV file and folks can download it and review what exists this weekend. I left it up longer in hope that more would
respond but no joy... sigh.

Things just ain't what they used to be sadly.

Later,
Sean

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On May 09, 2018 09:34pm, Dale Barnes wrote to Alan Ianson:

Yes, out of 1100 nodes we only had about 66 folks respond. Not sure if they did not want to or did not know about it. Will get the results posted as a CSV file and folks can download it and review what exists
this weekend. I left it up longer in hope that more would respond but
no joy... sigh.

Then again, could always have folks stop by the intermail mailing list ;)

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no joy... sigh.

Then again, could always have folks stop by the intermail
mailing list ;)

Yeah but the mailing list was not really setup for that. Its a one time survey
that folks can just download and do what they want with it.


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On 2018 May 09 21:34:20, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

Yes, out of 1100 nodes we only had about 66 folks respond. Not sure if they did not want to or did not know about it.

FWIW: i did not care to... i know that a few others near by also didn't care to...

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Dale,

Yeah but the mailing list was not really setup for that. Its a one time sur DB>that folks can just download and do what they want with it.

I have been so busy with being caregiver for my elderly Mom during the
day (a visiting nurse does actual physical care), then with ham radio
traffic nets at night, that some days, the only things I do with the BBS
is update the ham radio and weather data, and read messages...if I'm
lucky. Everything else has to wait.

I do all of her driving, shopping, banking, phone calls, scheduling, appointment keeping, computer work, etc. She doesn't go out for doctors appointments, grocery shopping, etc. UNLESS I am doing the driving,
helping her in and out of the car, and to a place to sit, while I do the
rest.

When I shop while she's at home, I don't have to worry about her
snagging the candy or donuts...although I wasn't paying attention this
last time, and darn it, she snagged the donuts that were "calling her
name". <G>

Daryl

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Yes, out of 1100 nodes we only had about 66 folks respond. Not sure if
they did not want to or did not know about it.

FWIW: i did not care to... i know that a few others near by
also didn't care to...

Thats fine, it was posted, sent out and will pull it down and make the data available to those that want it.


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Dale,

Yeah but the mailing list was not really setup for that. Its a one time

sur

that folks can just download and do what they want with it.

I have been so busy with being caregiver for my elderly
Mom during the

That is really a great thing you are doing. While hard and stressful, I am sure she is glad to have you there to take care of her.

It does show the type of person you are.

:)


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Dale,

That is really a great thing you are doing. While hard and stressful, I am DB>sure she is glad to have you there to take care of her.

It does show the type of person you are.

Thank you, sir. I still am able to work with the BBS, but not as much
as I used to. After all, growing up, she did so much for me...and now,
the roles are reversed.

It's not only the right thing to do, but it's the least I can do for
her. Plus, most kids nowadays couldn't care less about taking care of
their parents.

Daryl

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