• BinkD with Platium Express

    From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Binkd Team on Sunday, June 19, 2016 02:11:46
    If I set incoming and outgoing filebox directories for each node will BinkD work? I don't know of any other way to make it "friendly" but it seems this is the mailer to use for the most compatibility.

    Allen

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Allen Prunty on Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:20:42

    19 Jun 16 02:11, you wrote to Binkd Team:

    If I set incoming and outgoing filebox directories for each node will
    BinkD
    work?

    Of course it will work. :D

    'Tommi

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Sunday, June 19, 2016 09:53:52

    19 Jun 16 02:11, you wrote to Binkd Team:

    If I set incoming and outgoing filebox directories for each node will BinkD work?

    of course it will work... it is a bit more effort for tossing mail and files, though... you don't need to use any fileboxes and you can use just one of them without being required to use both...

    I don't know of any other way to make it "friendly" but it seems this
    is the mailer to use for the most compatibility.

    what do you mean? all binkd does is send and receive files from BSO storage using the binkp protocol...

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sunday, June 19, 2016 14:42:14

    On Jun 19, 2016 09:57am, mark lewis wrote to Allen Prunty:

    19 Jun 16 02:11, you wrote to Binkd Team:

    If I set incoming and outgoing filebox directories for each node will
    BinkD work?

    of course it will work... it is a bit more effort for tossing mail and files, though... you don't need to use any fileboxes and you can use
    just one of them without being required to use both...

    I don't know of any other way to make it "friendly" but it seems this
    is the mailer to use for the most compatibility.

    what do you mean? all binkd does is send and receive files from BSO storage using the binkp protocol...

    From what I'm being told (in another net) Bink-D has more connectivity, is ipv6 capable, and is the most actively developed mailer out there.

    Hector could have one hell of a product if he would incorporate Bink-P into his platinum express system, but his tosser is designed to be so integrated with his mailer that I have to make it jump through insane hoops to make it work with any other mailer. I had to use the "filebox" solution to make it work with radius (and it worked quite well with radius) but want something that I know is actively developed.

    Also looking at husky.

    Allen

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Allen Prunty on Sunday, June 19, 2016 15:07:56
    On 06/19/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    Also looking at husky.

    You won't find a mailer (most use binkd but but any will do) in husky but it
    is one of the most thorough and complete tosser/ticer I have seen.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, June 19, 2016 20:32:18
    On 06/19/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    You won't find a mailer (most use binkd but but any will do) in husky but it is one of the most thorough and complete tosser/ticer I have seen.

    Thanks Alan... just wish it worked for Winserver :-(
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Allen Prunty on Sunday, June 19, 2016 18:18:59
    On 06/19/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    Thanks Alan... just wish it worked for Winserver :-(

    It has been a very long time since I used windows so I know nothing about winserver. Does it use the netmail attach type outbound?

    I'm surprised it doesn't support binkd for todays fidonet. I know Robert
    Wolfe uses winserver so he would be a good person to ask about mailer options for that software.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, June 19, 2016 22:05:04
    It has been a very long time since I used windows so I know nothing about winserver. Does it use the netmail attach type outbound?

    No it has Platnium Express which is a totally different approach from
    Arcmail or Binkley's "Flo" files. It's bizzarre... apparently Internet
    Rexx figured it out.

    I'm surprised it doesn't support binkd for todays fidonet. I know Robert Wolfe uses winserver so he would be a good person to ask about mailer
    options
    for that software.

    We both use platinum express which is a beautiful tosser... but the
    mailer side is lacking binkp... and sadly it will never, ever be added
    to it.

    Allen
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Monday, June 20, 2016 07:43:48
    19 Jun 16 14:42, you wrote to me:

    I don't know of any other way to make it "friendly" but it seems
    this is the mailer to use for the most compatibility.

    what do you mean? all binkd does is send and receive files from BSO
    storage using the binkp protocol...

    From what I'm being told (in another net) Bink-D has more
    connectivity, is ipv6 capable, and is the most actively developed
    mailer out there.

    don't get lost and overcome by the buzzwords...

    Hector could have one hell of a product if he would incorporate Bink-P into his platinum express system, but his tosser is designed to be so integrated with his mailer that I have to make it jump through insane hoops to make it work with any other mailer. I had to use the
    "filebox" solution to make it work with radius (and it worked quite
    well with radius) but want something that I know is actively
    developed.

    i forget when the ""filebox"" stuff came along... frontdoor also has support for it within its STQ (aka static queue)... fileboxes are cool and work well for what they do but they do complicate things by needing the files moved into and out of the assigned directories... unless the mail and tic tossers have fileboxe capability, it can be troublesome... it is possible to loose mail and files, too... especially if a file of the same name already exists when a new one arrives or is copied over...

    AFAIK, taurus is the only one of the ART family (argus, radius, taurus) that is
    still in ""development""... their (delphi[-heavy]) source code is available so anyone can pick them up and work on them as they like...

    Also looking at husky.

    for what? you've been talking about mailers so far...

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:30:36

    On Jun 19, 2016 06:25pm, Alan Ianson wrote to Allen Prunty:

    On 06/19/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    Thanks Alan... just wish it worked for Winserver :-(

    It has been a very long time since I used windows so I know nothing
    about winserver. Does it use the netmail attach type outbound?

    I don't do windows either... might freak some people out but winserver is running in a winebottle on my Mac.

    Allen

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:33:04

    On Jun 20, 2016 07:47am, mark lewis wrote to Allen Prunty:

    Also looking at husky.

    for what? you've been talking about mailers so far...

    Well I haven't found Husky yet... so... haven't looked at it enough to know it's a tosser not a mailer.

    HOwever if there is a good open source tosser I may try to code again <gasp> it's been a long time and everything runs together. I'm having surgery on my left eye friday to remove the hundreds of floaters that make it so difficult to see... and if that works two weeks later they will do the right eye. If I can see better maybe I can code better.

    So frustrating when you are limited by the skin you are in.

    Allen

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Allen Prunty on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 00:04:10
    On 06/21/16, Allen Prunty said the following...
    It has been a very long time since I used windows so I know nothing about winserver. Does it use the netmail attach type outbound?

    I don't do windows either... might freak some people out but winserver is running in a winebottle on my Mac.

    Yep, I read that. I have a bottle like that here too but I don't use it since
    I have pretty much everything I need.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Allen Prunty on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 00:11:41
    On 06/21/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    Well I haven't found Husky yet... so... haven't looked at it enough to know it's a tosser not a mailer.

    Husky is on sourceforge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/husky

    It's very mature now and I would say a done deal although there are still releases quite regularly.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Allen Prunty on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 09:37:48
    Hi Allen!

    21 Jun 2016 02:33, from Allen Prunty -> Mark Lewis:

    Also looking at husky.
    for what? you've been talking about mailers so far...
    Well I haven't found Husky yet... so... haven't looked at it enough to know it's a tosser not a mailer.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=husky+fido&l=1

    HOwever if there is a good open source tosser I may try to code again <gasp> it's been a long time and everything runs together.

    Husky is still developed.
    It is quit complete, but I am sure the russian developers are happy if you can contribute.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 06:20:12

    On Jun 21, 2016 09:35am, Richard Menedetter wrote to Allen Prunty:


    Husky is still developed.
    It is quit complete, but I am sure the russian developers are happy if
    you can contribute.

    Let me get my eyes fixed first ... that's my biggest block is my low vision.

    Allen

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Allen Prunty on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 13:14:52
    Hi Allen!

    21 Jun 2016 06:20, from Allen Prunty -> Richard Menedetter:

    Husky is still developed.
    It is quit complete, but I am sure the russian developers are
    happy if you can contribute.
    Let me get my eyes fixed first ... that's my biggest block is my low vision.

    No hurry.
    Big contributions are not needed anyhow, as it is quit complete and works great
    as it is.

    Good luck for your medical procedure.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:51:44

    21 Jun 16 02:33, you wrote to me:

    Also looking at husky.

    for what? you've been talking about mailers so far...

    Well I haven't found Husky yet... so... haven't looked at it enough to know it's a tosser not a mailer.

    husky is a project that maintains numerous tools and utilities... HPT is their tosser... HTIC is their tic processor... they have quite a few more but i only use HPT with GoldED+ on this system... this is also the only system (for now) where i'm using husky stuff... it is a little tricky to get the initial compiling done but once it is done and the procedure order is known (and scripted for future use), it all goes well...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to mark lewis on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 09:37:04
    Re: BinkD with Platium Express
    By: mark lewis to Allen Prunty on Mon Jun 20 2016 07:43 am

    AFAIK, taurus is the only one of the ART family (argus, radius, taurus) that is still in ""development""... their (delphi[-heavy]) source code is available so anyone can pick them up and work on them as they like...

    Rumor had it that Bjorn Felten had the Argus code and was working on an updated version, but I haven't heard/seen anything in a while on that.
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Kurt Weiske on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 13:22:42

    06 Jul 16 09:37, you wrote to me:

    AFAIK, taurus is the only one of the ART family (argus, radius,
    taurus) that is still in ""development""... their (delphi[-heavy])
    source code is available so anyone can pick them up and work on them
    as they like...

    Rumor had it that Bjorn Felten had the Argus code and was working on
    an updated version, but I haven't heard/seen anything in a while on
    that.

    yup...

    FWIW: the sources to all three of the family are available from one site... how
    up to date they are with the binaries that have been released is another question...

    FWIW2: there has been a few attempts to port the code of at least Taurus to Freepascal/Lazarus but the conversion isn't all that easy even with the Lazarus
    conversion tool... there's a lot of stuff from an addon library (jedi IIRC) that has to be removed along with generalizing the delphi and winwhatever specific code so that it can be compiled for linux and winwhatever at least... hopefully OS/2 and MacOS flavours can also be handled...

    FWIW3: i'm aware of at least one project to take only the binkp mailer code and
    work it into another project... that is taking longer than was expected, too...

    )\/(ark

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