Hi All,

If I get a FReq via BinkD, what exactly am I looking for? File name? Contents?


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Hi! Ben,

On 19 May 17 20:09, you wrote to All:

If I get a FReq via BinkD, what exactly am I looking for? File name? Contents?

Look for a .txt file called SRIF in a distribution archive. Hint: older versions of binkD named it with an exclamation mark ('!') as the first character of the filename, just to confuse everyone.

That file describes the 'standard' for that form of FREQ-ing. There have been a number of tools that follow that method mentioned herewith in this echo over the years.

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Will do, thank you :)


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Ben Ritchey wrote to All on 05-19-17 20:09 <=-

Hi All,

If I get a FReq via BinkD, what exactly am I looking for? File name? Contents?

The cfg file for binkd already has the command you need to process the file that is being FREQ. Mine is:

exec "c:\\allfix\\allfix.exe RP -SRIF *S" *.req


Look in the 'EXEC' section as they give you a few options..


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Thanks Bill :)


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Ben Ritchey wrote to Bill Mcgarrity on 05-20-17 11:37 <=-

* On Saturday 20 May 2017 140 at 11:01 AM,
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Thanks Bill :)

Welcome....


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Hi! Ben,

On 05/21/2017 02:37 AM, you wrote to Bill Mcgarrity:

Thanks Bill :)

I see now that your initial query was somewhat ambiguous. I thought you had the binkD configuration doo-hickey figured. Since I know a little of your pursuits, I then thought that you were thinking of coding/using some sort of tool to handle incoming FREQs.

What aspect are you looking at?

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What aspect are you looking at?

If I have to code something I will, I'm just looking to know how to tell someone has freq'd a file from my system and what to expect in the freq for return node, etc. I'm using Mystic so no Bink cfg file (BinkD is built in) I seem to need the format of the .srf file which I found in a BinkD distribution package (!SRIF.Txt) though it's a bit cryptic. Need a sample! lol


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Hi! Ben,

On 20 May 17 18:20, you wrote to me:

I'm using Mystic so no Bink cfg file (BinkD is built in) I seem to
need the format of the .srf file which I found in a BinkD distribution package (!SRIF.Txt) though it's a bit cryptic. Need a sample! lol

Okay. I did some work around the turn of the century on a DOS BATch file request handler. I packaged everything into a .zip, including some notes, drop
file examples, the batch and the BFDS utils it needed. You're welcome to FREQ it from -this- node as "srif_req.zip", sans the quotes.

Note that the batch only works in DOS-like OSes, and not in the new Windows POS
emulations. (It always needed another batch anyway which I have for a BinkleyTerm request/OK list.) Have fun with it.

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On 2017 May 20 18:20:10, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

What aspect are you looking at?

If I have to code something I will, I'm just looking to know how to
tell someone has freq'd a file from my system and what to expect in
the freq for return node, etc. I'm using Mystic so no Bink cfg file
(BinkD is built in) I seem to need the format of the .srf file which I found in a BinkD distribution package (!SRIF.Txt) though it's a bit cryptic. Need a sample! lol

mystic should handle this... it has been on the Todo list for a while... apparently it isn't fixed yet??

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some notes, drop file examples, the batch and the BFDS utils it
needed. You're welcome to FREQ it from -this- node as "srif_req.zip",

Thanks Paul, will check it out soonest. :)


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20 May 17 18:20, Ben Ritchey wrote to Paul Quinn:

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If I have to code something I will, I'm just looking to know how to
tell someone has freq'd a file from my system

That depends on how Mystic works... You could always check you inbound for a *.Req file and take it from there, and delete it when you are done processing it.

and what to expect in the
freq for return node, etc. I'm using Mystic so no Bink cfg file
(BinkD is built in)

I seem to need the format of the .srf file which I found in a BinkD distribution package (!SRIF.Txt) though it's a bit cryptic. Need a
sample! lol

See fsc-0086 for deccription of the SRIF format.


Sample (request from 132/174 to 132/999)...

----- Test.Srf begins -----
Sysop Fred Riccio
AKA 1:132/174@fidonet
Baud 115200
Time -1
RequestList Test.Req
ResponseList Test.Rsp
RemoteStatus UNPROTECTED
SystemStatus LISTED
CallerID Ullr
SessionType OTHER
----- Test.Srf ends -----


If you want I could put together a step by step set of instructions based on what I did for FREQ-U

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That depends on how Mystic works... You could always check you
inbound for a *.Req file and take it from there, and delete it when
you are done processing it.

Cool, that's what I need to know ...

If you want I could put together a step by step set of instructions
based on what I did for FREQ-U

{chuckle} Once I figure out WHEN and WHAT to process a FReq then FreqU will be the 1st thing I test! Thanks ... will FreqU work without a BinkD config file? If not, can I just dummy one up?


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21 May 17 15:05, Ben Ritchey wrote to Fred Riccio:

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{chuckle} Once I figure out WHEN and WHAT to process a FReq

Again, it depends on Mystic. What would happen if someone sends you a .Req file? Does Mystic build a *.Srf or will it be ignored? It think finding that out should be your first step.

FreqU will be the 1st thing I test!

It will only work if Mystic generates an SRIF file.

Thanks ... will FreqU work without a BinkD config file?

It gets everything it needs from the .Srf, plus your address on the command line. It expects to find the .Srf in the same directory as FREQ-U.Exe. No config necessary.

If not, can I just dummy one up?

You will need an OKfile.Txt, which is documented in the BinkleyTerm 2.30 User's
guide, Parts of which are included in the FREQ-U distribution archive.

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Again, it depends on Mystic. What would happen if someone sends you a .Req file? Does Mystic build a *.Srf or will it be ignored? It think

Ignored :( I found one once with only a file name in it and wondered about what happened or supposed to happen {chuckle}

It will only work if Mystic generates an SRIF file.

Or if I gen one from the log info? Seems all I need is return addy?


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21 May 17 16:15, Ben Ritchey wrote to Fred Riccio:

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Or if I gen one from the log info? Seems all I need is return addy?

Also required is the path/name of the .Req file and the path to your outbound where the *.?lo files are kept.

Can Mystic execute a DOS command when it receives a *.req file?

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

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Also required is the path/name of the .Req file and the path to your outbound where the *.?lo files are kept.
Can Mystic execute a DOS command when it receives a *.req file?

Yes

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)


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Hi! Fred,

On 05/22/2017 09:10 AM, Ben Ritchey wrote to you:

Also required is the path/name of the .Req file and the path to your
outbound where the *.?lo files are kept.
Can Mystic execute a DOS command when it receives a *.req file?

Yes

That's not really even an option. It's no good if Mystic drops carrier on a current session. Working in absentia from the calling node isn't what FREQ-ing
is all about, as you know.

Ben & company need to press for SRIF support in Mystic when a FREQ transaction is attempted. It's relatively simple for software maintainers to implement... in my simplistic view of the universe. ;-)

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)

A session with Ben's system reports...

: 21-May-2017 15:35:38 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A33 binkp/1.0

Who knows why Mystic's author chose that.[shrug]

Cheers,
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22 May 17 17:12, Paul Quinn wrote to Fred Riccio:

Can Mystic execute a DOS command when it receives a *.req file?

Yes

That's not really even an option. It's no good if Mystic drops
carrier on a current session. Working in absentia from the calling
node isn't what FREQ-ing is all about, as you know.

I'm not following you here. Are you saying than Mystic *can* do it, but only after the BinkP session ends? I guess what I should have asked is if Mystic can do it asynchronously, or in another thread.

Ben & company need to press for SRIF support in Mystic when a FREQ transaction is attempted. It's relatively simple for software maintainers to implement... in my simplistic view of the universe.
;-)

Or native support of FREQs. Back in the olden days the more popular mailers had FREQ built in. No SRIF or add-on processors needed. It was the newer developers who dropped support for it.

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)

A session with Ben's system reports...

: 21-May-2017 15:35:38 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A33 binkp/1.0

So Ben needs to upgrade from A33 to A89 in order to get File requests to work?

Unless... The BinkP/1.0 optional extension "multiple batch mode" (FSP-1021.001
/ FRL-1018.001) was implemented by Mystic. I highly doubt this because I havent seen his Mystic send "OPT MB" in any session we have had, but it *does* appear with his (and others' systems) IREX 2.29 mailer.

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On 2017 May 21 18:10:38, you wrote to Fred Riccio:

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)

ummm... that's the binkd version, not the binkp protocol version... here's what
your mystic is currently advertising...

+ 22 May 10:24:18 [19350] call to 1:393/68@fidonet
22 May 10:24:19 [19350] trying cmech.dynip.com [76.72.3.67]...
22 May 10:24:19 [19350] connected
+ 22 May 10:24:19 [19350] outgoing session with cmech.dynip.com:24554 [76.72.3.67]
- 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] OPT CRAM-MD5-6fc04f5c4c6d7899df752338a45fbf6b
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] Remote requests MD mode
- 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] SYS The Positronium Repository
- 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] ZYZ Ben Ritchey
- 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] VER Mystic/1.12A33 binkp/1.0
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 1:393/68@fidonet
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 1:393/0@fidonet
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 1:1/21@fidonet
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 8:1/21@fidonet
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 1:1/20@fidonet
+ 22 May 10:24:24 [19350] addr: 21:2/117@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 May 10:24:25 [19350] done (to 1:393/68@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
22 May 10:24:25 [19350] session closed, quitting...

you can see that it is reporting supporting the binkp 1.0 protocol version...

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On 2017 May 22 08:04:14, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)

A session with Ben's system reports...

: 21-May-2017 15:35:38 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A33 binkp/1.0

So Ben needs to upgrade from A33 to A89 in order to get File requests to work?

AFAIK, there is no mystic alpha89 yet... he posted a binkd version from somewhere...

Unless... The BinkP/1.0 optional extension "multiple batch mode" (FSP-1021.001 / FRL-1018.001) was implemented by Mystic. I highly
doubt this because I havent seen his Mystic send "OPT MB" in any
session we have had, but it *does* appear with his (and others'
systems) IREX 2.29 mailer.

yep and probably with a binkd if he has one that he is running... he could easily turn off mystic's binkp stuff and run an external binkd ;)

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Hi! Fred,

On 05/22/2017 10:04 PM, you wrote:

Can Mystic execute a DOS command when it receives a *.req file?

Yes

That's not really even an option. It's no good if Mystic drops
carrier on a current session. Working in absentia from the calling
node isn't what FREQ-ing is all about, as you know.

I'm not following you here. Are you saying than Mystic *can* do it, but only after the BinkP session ends? I guess what I should have asked is
if Mystic can do it asynchronously, or in another thread.

Oh, dear. No. Maybe.

Ben & company need to press for SRIF support in Mystic when a FREQ
transaction is attempted. It's relatively simple for software
maintainers to implement... in my simplistic view of the universe.
;-)

Or native support of FREQs. Back in the olden days the more popular mailers had FREQ built in. No SRIF or add-on processors needed. It was the newer developers who dropped support for it.

On my main node I've run FrontDoor, BinkleyTerm and Argus/Radius. I know this.

Does Mystic truely support BinkP 1.1 or does it just fake it?

1.1a-89 it says :)

A session with Ben's system reports...
: 21-May-2017 15:35:38 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A33 binkp/1.0

So Ben needs to upgrade from A33 to A89 in order to get File requests to work?

Look closely. Apples & oranges.

Unless... The BinkP/1.0 optional extension "multiple batch mode" (FSP-1021.001 / FRL-1018.001) was implemented by Mystic. I highly doubt this because I havent seen his Mystic send "OPT MB" in any session we
have had, but it *does* appear with his (and others' systems) IREX 2.29 mailer.

Mmm... fascinating. Mystic doesn't even report local system time.

Cheers,
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