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    From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Thursday, July 12, 2018 11:03:32
    * Originally in ipv6
    * Crossposted in binkd

    On 2018 Jul 11 12:16:00, you wrote to me:

    ideally there should not be any since the nodelist is supposed to
    carry all the necessary information to connect to a system...

    Yep, though I have seen binkd attempt to look up DNS information for othernets, even when there was a node line.

    yes, this was brought up some time in the recent past in the BINKD echo when i asked for an option to turn off DNS lookups and just use node numbers... i don't mind a lookup when i want to poll a domain but i don't need to know IPs for the rest of their AKAs... certainly i don't need the gigs of data from all those lookups stuffing up my pipe...

    i've wondered if the binkp.net scripts and methods are documented and
    available for others to be able to look over and possibly use as a
    base to build their own...

    I have seen scripts in the wild to generate the DNS RRs. Tried one against my nodelist and discovered some syntax errors in my master
    file, which I subsequently fixed. :)

    nice... pointers? i've also cross-posted this to BINKD since it is rather far afield for this area...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Friday, July 13, 2018 12:55:00
    On 07-12-18 11:03, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yes, this was brought up some time in the recent past in the BINKD echo when i asked for an option to turn off DNS lookups and just use node numbers... i don't mind a lookup when i want to poll a domain but i
    don't need to know IPs for the rest of their AKAs... certainly i don't need the gigs of data from all those lookups stuffing up my pipe...

    Well, if you have your own cacheing DNS server, you can minimise that traffic too. I don't mind the DNS lookups, if they're going to help, but not when they break something that should work.

    nice... pointers? i've also cross-posted this to BINKD since it is
    rather far afield for this area...

    I don't have the link, but it was posted somewhere a month or two ago. It was a Perl script, IIRC.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Friday, July 13, 2018 09:41:34

    On 2018 Jul 13 12:55:00, you wrote to me:

    yes, this was brought up some time in the recent past in the BINKD
    echo when i asked for an option to turn off DNS lookups and just use
    node numbers... i don't mind a lookup when i want to poll a domain

    that should have said "just log IP numbers" instead of "just use node numbers"...

    but i don't need to know IPs for the rest of their AKAs... certainly
    i don't need the gigs of data from all those lookups stuffing up my
    pipe...

    Well, if you have your own cacheing DNS server, you can minimise that traffic too.

    of course that's already being done ;) but there's still a lot of traffic on the wire that just doesn't need to be there...

    I don't mind the DNS lookups, if they're going to help, but not when
    they break something that should work.

    i don't know of any breakage... it is mainly a nuisance... like a "chatty cathy" that just won't shut up... ever...

    nice... pointers? i've also cross-posted this to BINKD since it is
    rather far afield for this area...

    I don't have the link, but it was posted somewhere a month or two ago.
    It was a Perl script, IIRC.

    seems like quite a few are :)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:40:00
    On 07-13-18 09:41, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    that should have said "just log IP numbers" instead of "just use node numbers"...

    That makes sense. Surely a "-n" option could be added (-n is commonly used in other software to disable lookups).

    Well, if you have your own cacheing DNS server, you can minimise that traffic too.

    of course that's already being done ;) but there's still a lot of
    traffic on the wire that just doesn't need to be there...

    I wouldn't have thought it'd be that much, but never been too worried about it.

    I don't mind the DNS lookups, if they're going to help, but not when
    they break something that should work.

    i don't know of any breakage... it is mainly a nuisance... like a
    "chatty cathy" that just won't shut up... ever...

    I did have breakage on my othernets when I used a global root-domain setting.
    )

    I don't have the link, but it was posted somewhere a month or two ago.
    It was a Perl script, IIRC.

    seems like quite a few are :)

    Haardly surprising, Perl is a good language for manipulating text. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, July 25, 2018 04:49:22

    On 2018 Jul 14 11:40:00, you wrote to me:

    that should have said "just log IP numbers" instead of "just use node
    numbers"...

    That makes sense. Surely a "-n" option could be added (-n is commonly used in other software to disable lookups).

    don't need it when we can write something like "nolookup" in the config file ;)

    [...]

    I don't have the link, but it was posted somewhere a month or two
    ago. It was a Perl script, IIRC.

    seems like quite a few are :)

    Haardly surprising, Perl is a good language for manipulating text. :)

    tell me about it... i know of several firewall products with a browser-based GUI that's written completely in perl ;)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Wednesday, July 25, 2018 20:26:00
    On 07-25-18 04:49, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    That makes sense. Surely a "-n" option could be added (-n is commonly used in other software to disable lookups).

    don't need it when we can write something like "nolookup" in the config file ;)

    Good point. ;)

    Haardly surprising, Perl is a good language for manipulating text. :)

    tell me about it... i know of several firewall products with a browser-based GUI that's written completely in perl ;)

    I used to see a lot of Perl used in websites, before PHP became popular.


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