• BinkD trying to call a point?

    From Fermin Sanchez@2:301/123 to All on Sunday, May 16, 2021 16:52:48

    Hello everybody!

    Strange things happening over here. I'm newly rejoined to Fido after 20 years absence, so it's pretty sure the error is on my side. What would cause my system to try sending netmail directly to a point?
    ******
    + 16 May 16:32:31 [13636] call to 2:341/66.3463@fidonet
    + 16 May 16:32:31 [13636] getaddrinfo failed: No such host is known. (11001)
    + 16 May 16:33:31 [11224] call to 2:341/66.3463@fidonet
    + 16 May 16:33:31 [11224] getaddrinfo failed: No such host is known. (11001)
    + 16 May 16:34:31 [20024] call to 2:341/66.3463@fidonet
    + 16 May 16:34:31 [20024] getaddrinfo failed: No such host is known. (11001)
    + 16 May 16:35:31 [12984] call to 2:341/66.3463@fidonet
    + 16 May 16:35:31 [12984] getaddrinfo failed: No such host is known. (11001) ******

    I have one "Node" definition in my binkd.cfg for my uplink and "defnode": ******
    node 2:301/1 * SuperSecretSessionPassword!
    defnode *
    ******

    If I leave the "defnode" out, my system doesn't dial out at all.

    Also, enabling or disabling "root-domain binkp.net" doesn't change anything from what I can see.

    But my understanding of Fido is that netmails to a point should go to that point's uplink/node (in this case to 2:341/66)?


    Regards
    Fermin


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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Fermin Sanchez on Sunday, May 16, 2021 16:14:18
    Fermin wrote (2021-05-16):

    But my understanding of Fido is that netmails to a point should go to
    that point's uplink/node (in this case to 2:341/66)?

    Usually yes, but binkd doesn't route mails. It's the tosser that is responsible to put the netmail for the point into a pkt addressed to it's boss.

    Binkd doesn't make any distinction between nodes and points. Nodes are just points with the point number 0.

    If the point sysop were running a public binkd instance, you would be able to send a netmail directly to the point.

    Which tosser are you using?

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  • From Fermin Sanchez@2:301/123 to Oli on Sunday, May 16, 2021 17:27:12

    Hello Oli!

    16 May 21 16:14, you wrote to me:

    But my understanding of Fido is that netmails to a point should
    go to that point's uplink/node (in this case to 2:341/66)?
    Usually yes, but binkd doesn't route mails. It's the tosser that is responsible to put the netmail for the point into a pkt addressed to
    it's boss.

    OK, I see.

    Which tosser are you using?

    I'm using FMail.

    Regards
    Fermin


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Fermin Sanchez on Sunday, May 16, 2021 17:30:19
    Hi Fermin,

    On 2021-05-16 16:52:48, you wrote to All:

    Strange things happening over here. I'm newly rejoined to Fido after
    20 years absence, so it's pretty sure the error is on my side. What
    would cause my system to try sending netmail directly to a point?

    + 16 May 16:32:31 [13636] call to 2:341/66.3463@fidonet

    I don't think it has anything to do with binkd, or how it's configured.

    I have points on my system that have a mailer online 24/7 and also have their fqdn in the pointlist, so others could deliver crash mails directly on the points system, if they wanted to.

    So Binkd just tries to deliver the pkt file where it's told to. So it has to do with how you created the message in your editor (with which flags), and what your tosser did with it...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Oli on Sunday, May 16, 2021 23:06:54
    Hello Oli,

    On Sunday May 16 2021 16:14, you wrote to Fermin Sanchez:

    If the point sysop were running a public binkd instance, you would be
    able to send a netmail directly to the point.

    Anyone wishing to test that is welcome to do so. It is not yet in the pointlist, but here is the connect info:

    ,6,IPv6_only_test_point,Driebergen_NL,Michiel_van_der_Vlist,-Unpublished-,300,I BN:point6.vlist.eu,INO4,PING,TRACE,U,ENC

    Oh, I before I forget, you need IPv6 for this. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Michiel van der Vlist on Monday, May 17, 2021 19:51:54

    On 16.05.2021 23:06, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    Anyone wishing to test that is welcome to do so. It is not yet in the pointlist, but here is the connect info:

    ,6,IPv6_only_test_point,Driebergen_NL,Michiel_van_der_Vlist,-Unpublished-,300,I BN:point6.vlist.eu,INO4,PING,TRACE,U,ENC

    Why a TRACE flag? :) How many systems would route netmail thru a point. :D

    Oh, I before I forget, you need IPv6 for this. ;-)

    Oh!! :D

    14 May 16:51:57 [4024] OPT CRAM-MD5-b1daa89331625cd6645b00c31d8da8ee
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] call to 2:280/5555.6@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] trying point6.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:110a:500:f1d0:2:280:5556]...
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] connected
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] outgoing session with point6.vlist.eu:24554 [2001:1c02:110a:500:f1d0:2:280:5556]
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] OPT CRAM-MD5-81bc06abb46f1946a15486108a5b40ee
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] Remote requests MD mode
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] SYS Nieuw Schnoord IPv6 test node
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] LOC Driebergen, NL
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] NDL CM,MO,IBN:f5556.vlist.eu,PING,IPv6,INO4
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] TIME Mon, 17 May 2021 18:45:23 +0200
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] VER binkd/1.1a-112/Win32 binkp/1.1
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] addr: 2:280/5556@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] addr: 2:280/5555.6@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports GZ mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports BZ2 mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] sending \bbs\bso\fido\011815b3.pnt\00000006.cut
    as 60a29dcb.pkt (305)
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] sent: \bbs\bso\fido\011815b3.pnt\00000006.cut
    (305, 305.00 CPS, 2:280/5555.6@fidonet)
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] done (to 2:280/5555.6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0
    (305/0 bytes))
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] session closed, quitting...
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Monday, May 17, 2021 19:56:20
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday May 17 2021 19:51, you wrote to me:

    On 16.05.2021 23:06, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    Anyone wishing to test that is welcome to do so. It is not yet in
    the pointlist, but here is the connect info:

    ,6,IPv6_only_test_point,Driebergen_NL,Michiel_van_der_Vlist,-Unpubli
    shed-,300,I BN:point6.vlist.eu,INO4,PING,TRACE,U,ENC

    Why a TRACE flag? :) How many systems would route netmail thru a
    point. :D

    Not many indeed. But it is technically possible...

    Oh, I before I forget, you need IPv6 for this. ;-)

    Oh!! :D

    LOL ;-)

    14 May 16:51:57 [4024] OPT CRAM-MD5-b1daa89331625cd6645b00c31d8da8ee
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] call to 2:280/5555.6@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] trying point6.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:110a:500:f1d0:2:280:5556]...
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] connected
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] outgoing session with point6.vlist.eu:24554 [2001:1c02:110a:500:f1d0:2:280:5556]
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] OPT CRAM-MD5-81bc06abb46f1946a15486108a5b40ee
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] Remote requests MD mode
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] SYS Nieuw Schnoord IPv6 test node
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] LOC Driebergen, NL
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] NDL CM,MO,IBN:f5556.vlist.eu,PING,IPv6,INO4
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] TIME Mon, 17 May 2021 18:45:23 +0200
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] VER binkd/1.1a-112/Win32 binkp/1.1
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] addr: 2:280/5556@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:21 [3316] addr: 2:280/5555.6@fidonet
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports GZ mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] Remote supports BZ2 mode
    17 May 19:45:22 [3316] sending
    \bbs\bso\fido\011815b3.pnt\00000006.cut as 60a29dcb.pkt (305) 17 May 19:45:22 [3316] sent: \bbs\bso\fido\011815b3.pnt\00000006.cut (305,
    305.00 CPS, 2:280/5555.6@fidonet) 17 May 19:45:22 [3316] done (to 2:280/5555.6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0 (305/0 bytes)) 17 May 19:45:22
    [3316] session closed, quitting...

    - 18:45 [3592] incoming from 2001:999:22:9202:5ee0:c5ff:fe7d:b8fb (50436)
    + 18:45 [2556] incoming session with ne209b61oqxksghkr-3.v6.elisa-mobile.fi
    [2001:999:22:9202:5ee0:c5ff:fe7d:b8fb]
    - 18:45 [2556] SYS XXD/64
    - 18:45 [2556] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
    - 18:45 [2556] LOC ::1
    - 18:45 [2556] NDL !
    - 18:45 [2556] TIME Mon, 17 May 2021 19:45:21 +0300
    - 18:45 [2556] VER binkd/1.1a-112/Win64 binkp/1.1
    + 18:45 [2556] addr: 2:221/1.50@fidonet
    + 18:45 [2556] addr: 2:221/6.50@fidonet
    + 18:45 [2556] addr: 2:221/0.1@fidonet
    - 18:45 [2556] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote supports GZ mode
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote supports BZ2 mode
    - 18:45 [2556] TRF 305 0
    + 18:45 [2556] Remote has 305b of mail and 0b of files for us
    - 18:45 [2556] receiving 60a29dcb.pkt (305 byte(s), off 0)
    + 18:45 [2556] 60a29dcb.pkt -> d:\fido6\unsecure\60a29dcb.pkt
    18:45 [2556] got *.PKT, creating d:\fido6\sema\toss.now
    + 18:45 [2556] rcvd: 60a29dcb.pkt (305, 305.00 CPS, 2:221/1.50@fidonet)
    + 18:45 [2556] done (from 2:221/1.50@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/305 bytes))
    18:45 [2556] Running d:\fido6\batch\mailrcvd.bat
    - 18:45 [2556] executing `d:\fido6\batch\mailrcvd.bat'


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    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Monday, May 17, 2021 21:39:22

    Anyone wishing to test that is welcome to do so. It is not yet in
    the pointlist, but here is the connect info:

    ,6,IPv6_only_test_point,Driebergen_NL,Michiel_van_der_Vlist,-Unpubli
    shed-,300,I BN:point6.vlist.eu,INO4,PING,TRACE,U,ENC

    Why a TRACE flag? :) How many systems would route netmail thru a
    point. :D

    Not many indeed. But it is technically possible...

    No response to my PING yet...

    - 18:45 [2556] receiving 60a29dcb.pkt (305 byte(s), off 0)
    + 18:45 [2556] 60a29dcb.pkt -> d:\fido6\unsecure\60a29dcb.pkt
    18:45 [2556] got *.PKT, creating d:\fido6\sema\toss.now
    + 18:45 [2556] rcvd: 60a29dcb.pkt (305, 305.00 CPS, 2:221/1.50@fidonet)
    + 18:45 [2556] done (from 2:221/1.50@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/305 bytes))
    18:45 [2556] Running d:\fido6\batch\mailrcvd.bat
    - 18:45 [2556] executing `d:\fido6\batch\mailrcvd.bat'

    'Tommi

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Monday, May 17, 2021 22:09:22
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday May 17 2021 21:39, you wrote to me:

    No response to my PING yet...

    This what Fmail says:

    ---------- Mon 2021-05-17, FMail-W32-2.1.3.7-Beta20170919 - Toss
    18:45:24 Using ftscprod file: \fido\fmail\ftscprod.fm
    18:45:24 Processing 60a29dcb.pkt from 2:221/1.50 to 2:280/5555.6
    18:45:24 Pkt info: HPT 1.09, Type 2+, 305, 2021-05-17 18:45:20
    18:45:24 Skipping garbage in PKT file...
    18:45:24 Moved to backup: \FIDO6\SECURE\60a29dcb.pkt -> \fido6\inbackup\60a
    18:45:24 Updating actual message base files...
    18:45:24 Netmail: 0, Personal: 0, Hudson: 0, JAMbase: 0
    18:45:24 Msgbase net: 0, echo: 0, dup: 0, bad: 0
    18:45:24 Toss Active: 0.187 sec.

    Can you try again?


    Cheers, Michiel

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