• Windows XP, Telnet, Binkley

    From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to all on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 01:11:11
    Hi all!

    I'm trying to convert to XP since 98 hardware is now very scarce around here. Does anyone have suggestions for the appropriate software to do telnet to Binkley?

    I was (under windows 98) running the old 2.60a Binkley, with a com/ip virtual port and winfossil -- all seemed to work just fine. I've got netfoss running (I
    believe I understand that it's the xp replacement for com/ip) but I can't get a
    winfossil replacement to work.

    I'm only interested in fixes for using XP, thanks. :-)



    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Dallas Hinton on Thursday, March 13, 2008 16:47:18
    Hello Dallas!

    Tuesday March 11 2008 01:11, Dallas Hinton wrote to all:

    I was (under windows 98) running the old 2.60a Binkley, with a com/ip virtual port and winfossil -- all seemed to work just fine. I've got netfoss running (I believe I understand that it's the xp replacement
    for com/ip) but I can't get a winfossil replacement to work.

    I'm only interested in fixes for using XP, thanks. :-)

    Check out NetSerial from pcmicro.com. It's available for a 30-day free trial, and registration is $25 for BBS SysOps.

    Later,

    Andrew

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  • From Dane Beko@1:114/201 to Dallas Hinton on Saturday, March 29, 2008 14:11:19
    I've got netfoss running (I believe I understand that it's the xp replacement for com/ip) but I can't get a winfossil replacement to
    work. I'm only interested in fixes for using XP, thanks. :-)

    I don't use Binkley myself but I do use NetFoss and it comes with its own fossil driver. I run PcBoard and I have NetFoss and its telnet server configured and it works fine. I just tell PcBoard to use COM1 and a fossil driver (instead of a serial port - COM1 COM2, etc).


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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Dane Beko on Saturday, March 29, 2008 23:39:22
    Hi Dane -- on Mar 29 2008 at 14:11, you wrote:

    I don't use Binkley myself but I do use NetFoss and it comes with
    its own fossil driver. I run PcBoard and I have NetFoss and its
    telnet server configured and it works fine. I just tell PcBoard to
    use COM1 and a fossil driver (instead of a serial port - COM1 COM2,
    etc).

    Ahh, that sounds like what I should do. Could you possibly send/tell me the config/commandline options I need to use with netfoss? Many thanks!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Dane Beko@1:114/201 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, March 30, 2008 16:26:38
    Ahh, that sounds like what I should do. Could you possibly send/tell
    me the config/commandline options I need to use with netfoss? Many thanks!

    I just followed the PcBoard directions that NetFoss has in its documentation.
    I followed them to the letter and was up and running via telnet in 5 minutes.

    The only problem I've had is with maildoors (BlueWave 4.01, MarkMail, etc) that expect to see a COM port working (you need NetSerial for that) but the internal QWK routines and file transfers work fine with the fossil-only (telnet) configuration. I'm thinking about spending the $25 for NetSerial myself to get BlueWave working for remote callers (it only works for me locally as the sysop).


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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Dane Beko on Sunday, March 30, 2008 23:32:34
    Hi Dane -- on Mar 30 2008 at 16:26, you wrote:

    I just followed the PcBoard directions that NetFoss has in its documentation. I followed them to the letter and was up and running
    via telnet in 5 minutes.

    Excellent - thanks!

    The only problem I've had is with maildoors (BlueWave 4.01,
    MarkMail, etc) that expect to see a COM port working (you need
    NetSerial for that) but the internal QWK routines and file transfers
    work fine with the fossil-only (telnet) configuration. I'm thinking
    about spending the $25 for NetSerial myself to get BlueWave working
    for remote callers (it only works for me locally as the sysop).

    Ah, worth knowing -- again, many thanks!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Dane Beko on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 17:44:39
    Hi Dane,

    Sunday March 30 2008 16:26, Dane Beko wrote to Dallas Hinton:

    for NetSerial myself to get BlueWave working for remote
    callers (it only works for me locally as the sysop).

    But BlueWave isn't Y2K compatible .. It don't work with Max v3.00 BBS
    software. I just let users use the QWK reader in Max, it is Y2K compatible.

    I get a kick out of the software I run that isn't Y2K, like MUL (Max User Language) the date says:

    MUL v1.00 - 10 TOP USER REPORT - 08-04-108

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Dane Beko@1:114/201 to Kevin Klement on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 21:30:29
    But BlueWave isn't Y2K compatible .. It don't work with Max v3.00 BBS software. I just let users use the QWK reader in Max, it is Y2K compatible.

    I run it here on PcBoard and it works fine. The packets display "108" for the year but other than that, I don't have any problems. GoldEd+ has massive problems with the date and I have to run a PKT fixer on it. :-)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:31:22

    for NetSerial myself to get BlueWave working for remote
    callers (it only works for me locally as the sysop).

    But BlueWave isn't Y2K compatible ..

    where have you fellers been hiding? there is a y2k compliant version of BW available... yes, both reader and door...

    googling for "bluewave y2k" without the quotes will lead you to it... in fact, there's a wikipedia article that points to both dale shipp's bwrepfix and the one i'm speaking of... but, i'll give you a "better" hint on locating it, eh? ;)


    http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/BLUEWAVE/ ftp://ftp.wpusa.dynip.com/pub/bluewave


    )\/(ark


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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 15:04:33
    Hi mark,

    Wednesday April 09 2008 10:31, mark lewis wrote to Kevin Klement:


    where have you fellers been hiding? there is a y2k compliant
    version of BW available... yes, both reader and door...

    Well color me stupid eh...

    I'll have a look


    but, i'll give you a "better" hint on locating it, eh? ;)

    <smile>

    Thx bro!

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 19:32:19

    where have you fellers been hiding? there is a y2k compliant
    version of BW available... yes, both reader and door...

    Well color me stupid eh...

    i wouldn't say "stupid"... more "ignorant" which is correctible by education ;)

    I'll have a look

    but, i'll give you a "better" hint on locating it, eh? ;)

    <smile>

    Thx bro!

    for those who don't know... the fix seems to be easily applied to other "flavors" and versions as long as the C time library used is the same as the original and one knows how to use a HEX editor... i've done it with the RA version but do not recall if i have gone thru the motions to put it in place...
    that mainly due to differences between what i run and the last released version...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 17:52:04
    Hi mark,

    Wednesday April 09 2008 10:31, mark lewis wrote to Kevin Klement:

    for NetSerial myself to get BlueWave working for remote
    callers (it only works for me locally as the sysop).

    But BlueWave isn't Y2K compatible ..

    where have you fellers been hiding? there is a y2k compliant
    version of BW available... yes, both reader and door...


    I'll pass ...


    -=< Blue Wave patches to fix the Y2K bugs >=-
    WARNING: These patches are in no way approved or supported by the authors
    of the Blue Wave programs. !! Use at your own risk and liability !!


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 21:26:25

    But BlueWave isn't Y2K compatible ..

    where have you fellers been hiding? there is a y2k compliant
    version of BW available... yes, both reader and door...

    I'll pass ...

    why??

    -=< Blue Wave patches to fix the Y2K bugs >=-
    WARNING: These patches are in no way approved or supported by the
    authors of the Blue Wave programs. !! Use at your own risk and
    liability !!

    so what's the problem? :?

    )\/(ark


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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Saturday, April 12, 2008 13:47:47
    Hi mark,

    Wednesday April 09 2008 21:26, mark lewis wrote to Kevin Klement:

    > why??

    Why?

    Well ... for one my board doesn't have users any more, and I use my board for mostly for my pleasure. I do have a few regular callers, one uses Max's QWK door, and you know Scott D. fixed the Y2K in that.

    I'm sure the patches fix Y2K in BW, and even if I did re-install the patched version no one would use it. :(

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Saturday, April 12, 2008 13:45:25
    Hi mark,

    Wednesday April 09 2008 19:32, mark lewis wrote to Kevin Klement:

    i wouldn't say "stupid"... more "ignorant" which is
    correctible by education ;)

    Na... stupid sounds more politically correct. <grin>

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Dane Beko on Saturday, April 12, 2008 17:18:35
    Hi Dane,

    Tuesday April 08 2008 21:30, Dane Beko wrote to Kevin Klement:

    @MSGID: 1:114/201@fidonet.org de85d159
    @REPLY: 1:342/77 47fbaf0d
    @PID: GED+W32 1.1.5-b20070503
    any problems. GoldEd+ has massive problems with the date
    and I have to run a PKT fixer on it. :-)

    Hmmmmm... I see your using GED+W32, I use GED3 2.5 with *no* Y2K problems at all, on a MS-DOS 6.22 box. Must be WinDodo again. :)

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Dane Beko@1:114/201 to Kevin Klement on Saturday, April 12, 2008 23:56:31
    Hmmmmm... I see your using GED+W32, I use GED3 2.5 with *no* Y2K
    problems at all, on a MS-DOS 6.22 box. Must be WinDodo again. :)

    Could very well be the Windoze version. PcBoard 15.22 doesn't have any problems with Y2K although I haven't patched it for events (since I don't use PcBoard for events anyway). :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kevin Klement on Sunday, April 13, 2008 14:11:45
    "Kevin Klement -> mark lewis" <1:342/77> wrote in news:134$fido.binkley@JamNNTPd:

    i wouldn't say "stupid"... more "ignorant" which is
    correctible by education ;)

    Na... stupid sounds more politically correct. <grin>

    well, i'm not to play that PC game... besides, the only sure for stupidity
    is lead and gunpowder ;)

    )\/(ark


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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Sunday, April 13, 2008 14:01:20
    Hi mark,

    well, i'm not to play that PC game... besides, the only sure
    for stupidity is lead and gunpowder ;)

    Relax ... I'm only joking Mark. :)

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Dane Beko on Sunday, April 13, 2008 13:50:46
    Hi Dane,


    Or maybe your mail processor? Who knows, Scott D. updated both Max and Squish so Y2K isn't a problem. I use both Max and Squish.

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Dane Beko@1:114/201 to Kevin Klement on Sunday, April 13, 2008 20:24:34
    Or maybe your mail processor? Who knows, Scott D. updated both Max and Squish so Y2K isn't a problem. I use both Max and Squish.

    It's not the mail tosser (QFront) because it works fine with messages uploaded through either the QWK routines or the BlueWave (for PcBoard) door. :)


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  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Kevin Klement on Monday, April 14, 2008 23:00:24
    Hello Kevin!

    13 Apr 08 13:50, Kevin Klement wrote to Dane Beko:


    Or maybe your mail processor? Who knows, Scott D. updated both Max and Squish so Y2K isn't a problem. I use both Max and Squish.

    It is still possible for unfixed readers to pass bad dates through fixed doors into fixed Max/Squishbases. Squish will log "grunged date" and skip over the message, move the high-water mark, and never say anything about it again...but the Sent flag will not be set and it never leaves your system.

    I use something called "echofixd" to repair the dates on the messages posted through BlueWave and Silver XPress doors into Squish format areas before invoking Squish to scan the areas.

    .\\ike

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 15:25:16
    Hi Mike,

    Monday April 14 2008 23:00, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    It is still possible for unfixed readers to pass bad dates
    through fixed doors into fixed Max/Squishbases. Squish will

    How about a unfixed reader uploading to Max's QWK door, I haven't seen any error messages yet. You know "grunged date" etc...

    I just have Max's QWK door avable now, Disconnected BW/SX.

    I use something called "echofixd" to repair the dates on the
    messages posted through BlueWave and Silver XPress doors
    into Squish format areas before invoking Squish to scan the
    areas.

    Works hu?

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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