Hi, everyone.

I'm wondering whether I should use the DOS or Win32 version of BT with
SPITFIRE since SF is DOS-based. The board will eventually be running
under W2K.

Later,
Sean

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Hi, everyone.

I'm wondering whether I should use the DOS or Win32 version of BT with SPITFIRE since SF is DOS-based. The board will eventually be running under W2K.

I don't think it matters. BinkleyTerm/DOS has good timeslicing under Windows, so there's virtually no CPU load.

I highly recommend running your BBS in VMware.

I run my BBS on Windows NT 4.0 in VMware on WindowsXP. I got full networking for my BBS eg. telnet, and can add virtual IDE/SCSI disks, CDROMs and FDDs to my BBS etc and benefit from the speed of a QuadCore host hardware; which means nighly BBS maintenance in 30 secs and tossing 3000 messages in 5 seconds.

You can run your BBS in MS-DOS 6.22 (or whatever) in VMware on Linux or Windows
etc.

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Hi SEan,

On Wed 2037-Jan-14 23:38, Sean Dennis (1:18/200) wrote to All:

I'm wondering whether I should use the DOS or Win32 version of BT
with SPITFIRE since SF is DOS-based. The board will eventually be
running under W2K.

From my reading of the docs I understand that there's
problems with the w32 version passing a com port to a dos
based bbs, but could be wrong. I"d run the dos version of
btto be safe.


Iirc you were asking questions about exit errorlevels for
bbs callers to your pots. I"d run my bbs under bbs spawn
instead of bbs exit. OR at least under batch. IN either
case you'll need to create spawnbbs.bat. SPawnbbs receives
info about which com port, baud rates, etc. as arguments.
sEe binkleyterm docs for which argument is what and load sf
appropriately, have after caller jobs in spawnbbs.bat which
then returns nicely to your main batch for you.

HOpe that helps.



Regards,
Richard
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Hello, Richard...

Jan 20, 2009 at 18:40, Richard Webb wrote to Sean Dennis:

Hi SEan,

On Wed 2037-Jan-14 23:38, Sean Dennis (1:18/200) wrote to All:

I'm wondering whether I should use the DOS or Win32 version of BT
with SPITFIRE since SF is DOS-based. The board will eventually be
running under W2K.

From my reading of the docs I understand that there's
problems with the w32 version passing a com port to a dos
based bbs, but could be wrong. I"d run the dos version of
btto be safe.

That is absolutely true (the port handoff problem), but unfortunately I no longer remember the details. I was trying it under Win98, though, and haven't tried it under XP. The problem is that a DOS program needs exclusive use of the
port, and won't let go of it until it terminates. When it does, it's parent DOS
program (in this case, the DOS command interpreter) inherits it and won't let go.

With XP, the command interpreter is a completely different (32-bit) beast, the problem might no longer exists.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz

mailto:jerryschwartz@comfortable.com
http://www.writebynight.com

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Hello Jerry !

On 20-Jan'09 19:05, Jerry Schwartz wrote to Richard Webb:

That is absolutely true (the port handoff problem), but
unfortunately I no longer remember the details. I was
trying it under Win98, though, and haven't tried it under
XP. The problem is that a DOS program needs exclusive use
of the port, and won't let go of it until it terminates.
When it does, it's parent DOS program (in this case, the
DOS command interpreter) inherits it and won't let go.

With XP, the command interpreter is a completely different
(32-bit) beast, the problem might no longer exists.

May be if people use WinFOSSIL but that thing's so old it probably doesn't work
under Windows XP or Vista.

Maybe NetSerial will work.

But man ... MODEMS ... DIALUP ?? you've -got- to be joking.

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Hello, Minh...

Jan 24, 2009 at 12:15, Minh Van Le wrote to Jerry Schwartz:

That is absolutely true (the port handoff problem), but
unfortunately I no longer remember the details. I was
trying it under Win98, though, and haven't tried it under
XP. The problem is that a DOS program needs exclusive use
of the port, and won't let go of it until it terminates.
When it does, it's parent DOS program (in this case, the
DOS command interpreter) inherits it and won't let go.

With XP, the command interpreter is a completely different
(32-bit) beast, the problem might no longer exists.

May be if people use WinFOSSIL but that thing's so old it probably doesn't work under Windows XP or Vista.

I'm pretty sure I did at one time, but it didn't solve the problem. I'm using NTCOMM under XP now.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz

mailto:jerryschwartz@comfortable.com
http://www.writebynight.com

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Hello, Minh.

Saturday January 24 2009 at 12:15, you wrote to Jerry Schwartz:

But man ... MODEMS ... DIALUP ?? you've -got- to be joking.

I've gotten calls from Russia, Turkey and other far-off places all the time when I had my dialup line in (and the new one will be active in a few weeks).

Later,
Sean

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But man ... MODEMS ... DIALUP ?? you've -got- to be joking.

I've gotten calls from Russia, Turkey and other far-off
places all the time when I had my dialup line in (and
the new one will be active in a few weeks).

And when was the last time you received a call from Russia, Turkey and such other far-off places on your dialup line ?


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Hello, Minh.

Friday January 30 2009 at 21:40, you wrote to me:

And when was the last time you received a call from Russia, Turkey and such other far-off places on your dialup line ?

Quite a while ago when I had a dialup line. However, this is not the right place for this discussion and in fact, in light of your reputation for being a sh*tstirrer, I'm ending this conversation right here. You have proven to be a complete idiot in MUFFIN and TUB and I do not suffer fools lightly.

Later,
Sean

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Quite a while ago when I had a dialup line. However,
this is not the right place for this discussion and in
fact, in light of your reputation for being a
sh*tstirrer, I'm ending this conversation right here.
You have proven to be a complete idiot in MUFFIN and
TUB and I do not suffer fools lightly.

Heh. When people can piss you off this easily, with mere words and thoughts on a computer screen, or by electronic communication in a forum as obsolete as dinosaurs; it's a reflection of your own disenlightenment.

Your response to my message was polite and respectable right up until:

"in light of your reputation for being a sh*tstirrer, (...)
You have proven to be a complete idiot in MUFFIN and TUB
and I do not suffer fools lightly."

which would prove that you at times are not any better.

Janis Kracht - now there's a babe that can keep it together :)

Relax. You'll live longer.

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Hello, Minh.

Sunday February 01 2009 at 19:21, you wrote to me:

Relax. You'll live longer.

This is off-topic. You can discuss this in netmail or email if you don't have access to netmail.

Drop the subject in here. Thanks.

Later,
Sean
BINKLEY Moderator

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Hello Minh.

24 Jan 09 12:15, you wrote to Jerry Schwartz:

With XP, the command interpreter is a completely different
(32-bit) beast, the problem might no longer exists.

May be if people use WinFOSSIL but that thing's so old it probably
doesn't work under Windows XP or Vista.

Maybe NetSerial will work.

But man ... MODEMS ... DIALUP ?? you've -got- to be joking.

Well a lot of folks here, it is still the only option ...

Russell

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Hello, Russell.

Wednesday February 04 2009 at 16:38, you wrote to Minh Van Le:

Well a lot of folks here, it is still the only option ...

In a lot of cases, it's the most reliable option. Even here, with my DSL line,
I have problems connecting to people at times. It's amazing how many people that I have connections to with mail want to use POTS again. :)

Later,
Sean

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Hello Sean.

04 Feb 09 12:14, you wrote to me:

Well a lot of folks here, it is still the only option ...

In a lot of cases, it's the most reliable option. Even here, with my
DSL line, I have problems connecting to people at times. It's amazing
how many people that I have connections to with mail want to use POTS again. :)

All my long distance connections are now BinkP, with the exception of my link into Zimbabwe ...

Am trying to get more links established there, but no takers yet ... :-((

Russell

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