Hi David Rance, hope you are having a nice day

I believe that some versions (the one I'm running, for example)
require something called NTCOMM.

Mmm, we had this conversation last February, if you remember. I tried DR>NTCOMM but it didn't work here. Maybe it's because I've only got WIN98
on this machine.

I'm using the ntcomm version on the laptop under the first version
of '98. Maybe there's a code difference between the us & uk versions
of '98 that's affecting things?

I have had one problem wrt finding the modem in '98 but it
happens w/ fully '98 native programs like junoweb and hyperterm
as well as dos programs like terminate, bt/dos, etc.

The modem is a pcmcia modem and at times if I start a comm type
program, '98 acts as if I'd just unplugged the modem. I have to
reboot 2 or 3 times before I can finally use it.

Another problem is bt(dos/w32) not seeing the modem to begin w/.
In that case I have to pull it out, wait for the system beeps
for unplugged cards, and the plug it back in at which point it's
seen by any/all comm programs. :/

Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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On 05 Dec 2001, Paul Williams wrote to David Rance:

I'm using the ntcomm version on the laptop under the first version
of '98. Maybe there's a code difference between the us & uk versions
of '98 that's affecting things?

I have had one problem wrt finding the modem in '98 but it
happens w/ fully '98 native programs like junoweb and hyperterm
as well as dos programs like terminate, bt/dos, etc.

The modem is a pcmcia modem and at times if I start a comm type
program, '98 acts as if I'd just unplugged the modem. I have to
reboot 2 or 3 times before I can finally use it.

I'm getting funny things like that on my Compaq laptop.

Another problem is bt(dos/w32) not seeing the modem to begin w/.
In that case I have to pull it out, wait for the system beeps
for unplugged cards, and the plug it back in at which point it's
seen by any/all comm programs. :/

I've got a problem with one program (used for programming the computer inside the console of a church organ). The program doesn't check that the data are being received correctly and so it's difficult to know whether the connection is good or not!

Best wishes, David

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Hi David Rance, hope you are having a nice day

I've just gone back over the problems I had about ten months ago - I'd DR>forgotten exactly the details. I've just taken Winfossil out and rebooted. DR>I've got two versions of BT32.EXE installed here and get exactly the same DR>problems with both. They cannot see the serial port, NTCOMM and the BT DR>directory are in the path and, if I enable SharePort, BT32 complains that DR>that command is not enabled in the versions I'm using! (2.60XE/Gamma-6 and DR>2.60XE/Beta-XH7).
Put Winfossil back in and it's as right as rain (though what there is DR>right about rain I don't know!!)

To misquote, mysteriouser and mysteriouser. :>

I think we may be over looking something though..
What specific version of '98 are you using and more importantly
what type of hardware? Ie. is the modem isa, pci or external, is it
a winmodem or a real modem? That sort of thing.

I've mentioned that the '98 system here is a laptop using a pcmcia
modem, but one of the interesting things is that the modem is *not*
what's known as a winmodem. It's closer to a usr courier or sportster
true modem. The only difference is it's pcmcia not isa.

I recall some time back either here or in another echo abt problems
wrt '98 not seeing a modem. (you perhaps?)

Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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Jerry Schwartz (1:142/928) wrote to David Rance at 20:11 on 05 Dec 2001:

Mmm, we had this conversation last February, if you remember. I tried NTCOMM but it didn't work here. Maybe it's because I've only got
WIN98 on this machine.

Win98 here as well.

When I was still running Win98SE I tried the NTCOMM version of XR6 with my 56K Sportster and found it would not work. Under Windows 2000 I'm not sure if a fossil is necessary.

Take care,

Steven Horn (shorn@yknet.ca)
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On 05 Dec 2001, Paul Williams wrote to David Rance:

Put Winfossil back in and it's as right as rain (though
what there is right about rain I don't know!!)

To misquote, mysteriouser and mysteriouser. :>

I think we may be over looking something though..
What specific version of '98 are you using ....

Second edition.

... and more importantly what type of hardware? Ie. is the
modem isa, pci or external, is it a winmodem or a real
modem? That sort of thing.

External. It's a USR 56k faxmodem.

I recall some time back either here or in another echo abt problems
wrt '98 not seeing a modem. (you perhaps?)

Probably me.

Best wishes, David

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Hi David Rance, hope you are having a nice day

The modem is a pcmcia modem and at times if I start a comm type PW>>program, '98 acts as if I'd just unplugged the modem. I have to
reboot 2 or 3 times before I can finally use it.

I'm getting funny things like that on my Compaq laptop.

All I know is that if I `salute' the system, the window that pops
up says that msgsrv32 isn't responding and if I kill that process
then whatever program that's accessing the modem & has hung starts
back up and compains abt the missing modem.

Add to that the fact that if I bring the laptop up from hibernation
or standby mode, on random occasions whatever program is in foreground
will crash&burn. Including explorer and the desktop. :/

If it's the filemanager I use (wincmdr) then I just close it, cycle
memturbo to defrag the memory, and restart wincmdr. If it's the desktop
and/or explorer I have to do a reboot of some form to get everything
reloaded.

Does it w/ 32meg, 64meg & 160meg so I'm not sure what to think. :<

Another problem is bt(dos/w32) not seeing the modem to begin w/.
In that case I have to pull it out, wait for the system beeps
for unplugged cards, and the plug it back in at which point it's
seen by any/all comm programs. :/

I've got a problem with one program (used for programming the computer DR>inside the console of a church organ). The program doesn't check that the DR>data are being received correctly and so it's difficult to know whether the DR>connection is good or not!

Fun all around it seems.<not!> The hardwired comport everything see's
but the port I'd like to experiment w/... The laptop has the fast infrared
port on it and atm is also configured to act as com5 and lpt4. If I could
get *any* comm program to see com 5, there's a number of things I'd like
to try/do.

Bink by a 4mbps ir link would be fun to play around w/.

Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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Hi David Rance, hope you are having a nice day

I think we may be over looking something though..
What specific version of '98 are you using ....

Second edition.

That too, but aren't there country specific versions too?
I know I've seen reference to a french version, and ofc the
one here is the us version.

I'm wondering if there might be a code difference causing things
to bounce. (lets face it, w/ m$ you never know what bugs may be hiding)

... and more importantly what type of hardware? Ie. is the
modem isa, pci or external, is it a winmodem or a real
modem? That sort of thing.

External. It's a USR 56k faxmodem.

Hmm does bink see the comport w/o the modem attached? Does it
see any comports for that matter?

Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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Hello, Paul...

Dec 10, 2001 at 19:10, Paul Williams wrote to David Rance:

Add to that the fact that if I bring the laptop up from hibernation
or standby mode, on random occasions whatever program is in
foreground
will crash&burn. Including explorer and the desktop. :/

And that is unusual in what way?

I've never had a laptop which would reliably wake up from hibernation. I've never had a laptop which would reliably shut down, for that matter.

We have a fleet of identical laptops at our office, and they all exhibit various symptoms of that sort. There are timing issues galore in the startup and shutdown processes of both the hardware and the software.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz

mailto:jerryschwartz@comfortable.com
http://www.writebynight.com

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On 10 Dec 2001, Paul Williams wrote to David Rance:

What specific version of '98 are you using ....

Second edition.

That too, but aren't there country specific versions too?
I know I've seen reference to a french version, and ofc the
one here is the us version.

Yes, I've got a French version too but the differences are simply to do with language prompts.

I'm wondering if there might be a code difference causing things
to bounce. (lets face it, w/ m$ you never know what bugs may be
hiding)

As far as I know there aren't any differences in the coding.

External. It's a USR 56k faxmodem.

Hmm does bink see the comport w/o the modem attached? Does it
see any comports for that matter?

No.

However since I last wrote I was persuaded to buy another, more expensive, USB to serial convertor This one works like a dream and all my problems have gone away! It's made by Belkin which I think is American. It can be configured to work with Windows and optionally with DOS as well. I must say I was sceptical about buying another one, but I'm glad I did. I can now run Binkley for DOS and
Telix for DOS! :-)

Best wishes, David

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On 11 Dec 2001, Jerry Schwartz wrote to Paul Williams:

Add to that the fact that if I bring the laptop up from
hibernation or standby mode, on random occasions whatever
program is in foreground will crash&burn. Including explorer
and the desktop. :/

And that is unusual in what way? I've never had a laptop
which would reliably wake up from hibernation. I've never
had a laptop which would reliably shut down, for that
matter.

The cursor timing goes all strange on my laptop when it wakes up from hibernation!

Best wishes, David

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Hi David Rance, hope you are having a nice day

That too, but aren't there country specific versions too?
I know I've seen reference to a french version, and ofc the
one here is the us version.

Yes, I've got a French version too but the differences are simply to do DR>with language prompts.

Ah. Ofc w/ m$ you never know. ;>

Hmm does bink see the comport w/o the modem attached? Does it
see any comports for that matter?

No.

Ouch! Although that gives an idea of what to tinker on.
It may be a case of '98 assigning the comports improperly.
Unfortunately that's not something I can help a lot w/. :<

It's like on my laptop w/ trying to get a com program to see
the ir port which is com5. '98 says I have a nice high speed
serial port on com5 but nothing, not even 'doze programs see it. :/

I'm thinking it may be something to do w/ all the networking stuff
that gets loaded.

However since I last wrote I was persuaded to buy another, more expensive, DR>USB to serial convertor This one works like a dream and all my problems DR>have gone away! It's made by Belkin which I think is American. It can be DR>configured to work with Windows and optionally with DOS as well. I must DR>say I was sceptical about buying another one, but I'm glad I did. I can DR>now run Binkley for DOS and Telix for DOS! :-)

I'm considering buying a USB-10/100 ethernet adapter for $39.95USD
to use on the laptop. I'd like to find a USB-Joystick adapter as well
but haven't seen one yet. (otoh i did see a usb-scsi adapter i thought
was neat)

Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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