As someone who first properly encountered Commodore with the Amiga computers, this comprises my major area of know-how and interest. The Amiga (and its PPC-based modern incarnations) OS remains my main day-to-day OS, so it's more than a hobby but something which serves my daily working life. That's just an aisde - subject-relevant question follows! :)

Looking at the echo list on the BBS where I pick up my fidonet, I can't see the Amiga echo as an option. However, looking a the Fidogazette, I can see it doesn't get any posts. It's that because Amiga users have all but left Fidonet, or is CBM now the preferred place for all things Commodore (and beyond)?

Simon Geddes wrote to All <=-

can see it doesn't get any posts. It's that because Amiga users have
all but left Fidonet, or is CBM now the preferred place for all things Commodore (and beyond)?

It certainly makes sense to collapse echoes to minimize the number of dead echoes and increase message traffic in others.




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On 21 Oct 2019, Simon Geddes said the following...

Looking at the echo list on the BBS where I pick up my fidonet, I can't see the Amiga echo as an option. However, looking a the Fidogazette, I
can see it doesn't get any posts. It's that because Amiga users have all but left Fidonet, or is CBM now the preferred place for all things Commodore (and beyond)?

Does the BBS your connecting on offer Usenet message boards? What your
pointing out is why I added them to my BBS so there is not only this board but also:

COMP.SYS.AMIGA.HARDWARE
COMP.SYS.AMIGA.MISC
COMP.SYS.APPLE2
COMP.SYS.ATARI.8BIT
COMP.SYS.ATARI.ST

And more... The Amiga boards in the above list do have current activity.

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Does the BBS your connecting on offer Usenet message boards? What your pointing out is why I added them to my BBS so there is not only this
board but also:

COMP.SYS.AMIGA.HARDWARE
COMP.SYS.AMIGA.MISC
COMP.SYS.APPLE2
COMP.SYS.ATARI.8BIT
COMP.SYS.ATARI.ST

And more... The Amiga boards in the above list do have current activity.

It doesn't. It's a good idea though - although I would rather stay in the world of the BBS/fido/other BBS nets, than venture into the murky world of the net*.

* This seems like a somewhat arbitary distinction I agree, when most BBSes are accessible only via the internet! But if I had a readily-available internet connection, I'd just go www.amiga.org, amigaworld.org etc. etc.

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On 23 Oct 2019, Simon Geddes said the following...

It doesn't. It's a good idea though - although I would rather stay in
the world of the BBS/fido/other BBS nets, than venture into the murky world of the net*.

* This seems like a somewhat arbitary distinction I agree, when most
BBSes are accessible only via the internet! But if I had a readily-available internet connection, I'd just go www.amiga.org, amigaworld.org etc. etc.

Well there are Amgia echo's on CNet and Retronet, those nets sound more like what your looking for if I am hearing you right. The activity on the amiga echo under retronet lately is more active than CNet's.

Again does the BBS your connecting to offer CNet or Retronet? Being a Commodore teen and graduating to Amiga, this is why I offer those nets along with the usenets on my BBS. My personal goal for my BBS is to offer the most active 8/16bit echo's/nets I can find so users can connect with others all in one place.

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Again does the BBS your connecting to offer CNet or Retronet? Being a Commodore teen and graduating to Amiga, this is why I offer those nets along with the usenets on my BBS. My personal goal for my BBS is to
offer the most active 8/16bit echo's/nets I can find so users can
connect with others all in one place.

It doesn't. It's a Synchronet BBS - Windows-heavy by the looks of things.

That sounds like a good goal - anything that helps people keep using their 8/16 bit hardware.

My personal goal is to help re-build something like an 'offline network', of people who want to use their machines without recourse to the net. To be fully immersed in their computing experience, without the pull and distraction of forum posts, endless options for ADF or 'ROM' downloads etc. etc. I see this loose network being based on dial-up bulletin boards (VoIP problems with this recognised), disk magazines, support of physical magazines, swapping software (legally) through the post. Essentially, pre-internet 1980s and 1990s computing.

It's my hypothesis that such a computer experience could be a richer one..and that the 'magic' of computing in the 80s and 90s had something to do with the slower, more deliberate pace of computing (not in terms of CPU, but in terms of waiting for a new (paper or disk) magazine each month, or waiting for a PD library to send you a disk through the post), and the fewer options of things we /could/ do on the computer (unless we created it ourselves).

I suspect it would only realistically work, if it would work at all, if people severely reduced their general internet consumption. Otherwise why bother. And plus, people's brains probably won't have the concentration spans and patience of old required, if they haven't re-wired from constantly refreshing Facebook/Amiga.org in the background.

Not sure if anyone else will agree however! Your goal sounds a lot more realistic! :)

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I myself try to get people off Facebook and Twitter and such and call a
BBS. My BBS is running the classic C-Net Amia Pro and offers several networks.
CommodoreNet and AmigaNet are just two of them that focus on the Retro Computers. Then there is RetroNet. Gotta love it!

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Re: Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Spitfire to All on Sat Oct 26 2019 12:15 pm

call a BBS. My BBS is running the classic C-Net Amia Pro and offers several networks.
CommodoreNet and AmigaNet are just two of them that focus on the Retro Computers. Then there is RetroNet. Gotta love it!

And looking at your sig, I can see you offer dial-up. I have to put my money where my mouth is - I'll give you a (trans-atlantic) call.

I myself try to get people off Facebook and Twitter and such and call
BBS. My BBS is running the classic C-Net Amia Pro and offers several networks.
CommodoreNet and AmigaNet are just two of them that focus on the Retro Computers. Then there is RetroNet. Gotta love it!

In my case, I don't have Twitter and try to stay off of FB as much as
possible. I am much more likely to be reading an offline mail packet from
my BBS. :)

Mike

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On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:08:12 +1300, Simon Geddes wrote:

Re: Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Spitfire to All on Sat Oct 26 2019 12:15 pm

call a BBS. My BBS is running the classic C-Net Amia Pro and offers

several

networks.
CommodoreNet and AmigaNet are just two of them that focus on the Retro Computers. Then there is RetroNet. Gotta love it!

And looking at your sig, I can see you offer dial-up. I have to put my money where my mouth is - I'll give you a (trans-atlantic) call.

I just used telnet not owning a phone.
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On 26 Oct 2019, Simon Geddes said the following...

Not sure if anyone else will agree however! Your goal sounds a lot more realistic! :)

Totally get and agree with you...though our goals are accessed in different ways they are similar! For this is exciting to know there are others that are wanting to share in a similar goal!

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Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Simon Geddes to All on Mon Oct 21 2019 12:34 pm

You know, I figured the same thing. I notice, however, IRC has a vibrant community on the amiga channel. You may get a good idea from the people there about a presence on fidonet.

I spoke to afew of them the other day, it turns out.
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Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Daniel to Simon Geddes on Fri Nov 22 2019 02:14 am

You know, I figured the same thing. I notice, however, IRC has a vibrant community on
the
amiga channel. You may get a good idea from the people there about a presence on
fidonet.

Yes - across multiple networks and channels I think. And a healthy community of people on morphos, aros channels too. Perhaps there's just more of the Amiga and Amigans on the internet, as in the mid-nineties there was a lot of development of Amiga internet stuff. Excellent products from VaporWare for example (AmIRC, AmFTP), easy webstacks like Miami, Genesis etc. etc. I know I pottered about with fidonet back around that time, but was tempted away by the shiny new internet.

Re: Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Spitfire to All on Sat Oct 26 2019 12:15 pm

I myself try to get people off Facebook and Twitter and such and call a
BBS. My BBS is running the classic C-Net Amia Pro and offers several networks.
CommodoreNet and AmigaNet are just two of them that focus on the Retro Computers.

I've tried calling Ring of Fire a couple of times, but I don't seem to be able to connect. Something, persumably a modem, answers - but I don't get the cheerful handshaking sound. Instead, that wandering, pitiful, searching one-way modem sound. Not sure if it's a trans-Atlantic issue, something with my settings, or if the modem is off at the RoF end :)

Re: Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Gary McCulloch to Daniel on Fri Nov 22 2019 08:57 pm

Whats the IRC channel for that? I just pop in the #C-Net echo on irc.crimson.net

Visit freenode.net irc server. Add #c64, ##6502, #TGOD, ##asm (assembly programming). Those are the ones I autojoin on all irc clients in my posession. Daniel Traechin
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Re: Re: The Amiga echo...
By: Gary McCulloch to Daniel on Fri Nov 22 2019 08:57 pm

there's also ##amiga, #amiga, #amiga-ie, and a variety of others not so populated.

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On Thu 2-Jan-2020 1:06a, Daniel@1:340/7.0 said to Gary McCulloch:

Visit freenode.net irc server. Add #c64, ##6502, #TGOD, ##asm (assembly programming). Those are the ones I autojoin on all irc clients in my posession.

On Thu 2-Jan-2020 1:07a, Daniel@1:340/7.0 said to Gary McCulloch:

there's also ##amiga, #amiga, #amiga-ie, and a variety of others not so populated.

I will have to keep all these in mind. Any IRC Commodore channel has to be worth having on the list.

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