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    From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to All on Sunday, May 09, 2021 23:27:32
    Hi, All!

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    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Monday, May 10, 2021 13:43:42
    Hi All,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    Poor girl. I hope the dude bought the car and she got the commission anyway.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58.10 to August Abolins on Monday, May 10, 2021 15:13:56
    Hi, August!

    10 ¼á⌐ 21 13:43, August Abolins -> All:

    Poor girl. I hope the dude bought the car and she got the commission anyway.

    I think she did make a good sale after all. Moreover, it is possible to load a little more corpses into this car than she thinks. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to August Abolins on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 07:55:16
    On 10/05/21 07:43, August Abolins -> All wrote:

    --- Want fido for iOS/Android/MacOS/Win/Linux? info=https://shorturl.at/duvA7

    When I click at the link above (http://shorturl.at/duvA7), it sends me to the
    URL shortener landing page...


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos
    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to Flavio Bessa on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 07:34:00
    Flavio;

    Flavio Bessa wrote to August Abolins <=-

    When I click at the link above (http://shorturl.at/duvA7), it
    sends me to the URL shortener landing page...

    Be leary of URL shorteners. Some are malicious in nature and are offering
    such a service to try and phish data from your browser such as your email address to sell to spammers.

    ... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Flavio Bessa on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 14:49:15
    Hi Flavio,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    On 10/05/21 07:43, August Abolins -> All wrote:

    --- Want fido for iOS/Android/MacOS/Win/Linux?
    info=https://shorturl.at/duvA7

    When I click at the link above (http://shorturl.at/duvA7), it sends me to the
    URL shortener landing page...


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos


    When I click at the link above (http://shorturl.at/duvA7), it sends me to the URL shortener landing page...

    That's strange indeed. I'm pretty sure I tested it before. Hopefully the alternative below will behave better.

    Thanks for the heads-up.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Brian Rogers on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 07:59:00
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Tuesday 11.05.21 - 07:34, you wrote to Flavio Bessa:

    When I click at the link above (hxxp://shorturl.at/
    duvA7), it sends me to the URL shortener landing page...

    Be leary of URL shorteners. Some are malicious in nature
    and are offering such a service to try and phish data from
    your browser such as your email address to sell to
    spammers.

    That can certainly be the case! That was like a screaming
    banshee to me when the tiny urls first emerged. But the folks
    at TinyUrl do a nice job in providing a Preview option. Also,
    at least the most popular services now vet the links too.
    --
    ../|ug
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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to August Abolins on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:16:16
    On 11/05/21 08:49, August Abolins -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    Hi Flavio,

    That's strange indeed.  I'm pretty sure I tested it before.  Hopefully
    the
    alternative below will behave better.

    Thanks for the heads-up.


    I just tested it and it's working fine now.


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos
    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway, Brazil (4:801/188)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Brian Rogers on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:17:14
    On 11/05/21 08:34, Brian Rogers -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    Flavio;

    Be leary of URL shorteners. Some are malicious in nature and are offering such a service to try and phish data from your browser such as your email address to sell to spammers.

    Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos
    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway, Brazil (4:801/188)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Flavio Bessa on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:24:00
    Hello Flavio!

    Be leary of URL shorteners. Some are malicious in nature..

    Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.

    What is the hidden mode? I'll usually hover over a link and
    see what the "real" destination is. But I don't think that
    resolves ultimate destination of a tiny url.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to August Abolins on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:52:50
    On 11/05/21 10:24, August Abolins -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    Hello Flavio!

     BR>>> Be leary of URL shorteners. Some are malicious in nature..

     FB>> Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.

    What is the hidden mode?  I'll usually hover over a link and
    see what the "real" destination is. But I don't think that
    resolves ultimate destination of a tiny url.


    In some browsers it's called "private browsing"...


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos
    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway, Brazil (4:801/188)
  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to Flavio Bessa on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:49:00
    Hello Favio;

    Flavio Bessa wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.

    That only goes so far too. Check out "Privacy Badger" if you're using
    Firefox.

    ... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960
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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to August Abolins on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:52:00
    Hello August;

    August Abolins wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    That can certainly be the case! That was like a screaming
    banshee to me when the tiny urls first emerged. But the folks
    at TinyUrl do a nice job in providing a Preview option. Also,
    at least the most popular services now vet the links too.

    Or you can use lynx and view the source. That may help as well.

    btw as I see I got on this echo per your suggestion :D

    ... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Brian Rogers on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 17:17:07
    Hi Brian,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    Hello Favio;

    Flavio Bessa wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.

    That only goes so far too. Check out "Privacy Badger" if you're using Firefox.

    ... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960

    I never heard of PrivacyBadger. Just after a quick read/gleen about it, I like their ethic. It installed in my older FF under XP well.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Brian Rogers on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 11:33:36
    On 11/05/21 10:49, Brian Rogers -> Flavio Bessa wrote:
    Hello Favio;

    Flavio Bessa wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

     FB>> Indeed! I always open them into the browser's hidden mode.

    That only goes so far too. Check out "Privacy Badger" if you're using Firefox.

    Thanks for the tip!


    --
    _
    ..-----________________--_ ________.--'-`--._____ Flavio Bessa \____==================_) \_'===================` 4:801/188
    _,--___.-|__|-.______|=====/ `---' fcbessa@gmail.com
    `---------._ ~~~~~| Rio de Janeiro
    `-._ - - - ,' Brasil
    \_____,-' Visit Zone4 Website at: https://fido.bbs.docksud.com.ar/wiki/doku.php?id=fidonet:nodos
    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway, Brazil (4:801/188)
  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to August Abolins on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:58:00
    Hey August;

    August Abolins wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I never heard of PrivacyBadger. Just after a quick read/gleen about it,
    I like their ethic. It installed in my older FF under XP well.

    That's a must install for me. That, adblock ultimate, and duckduckgo privacy essentials. If there's others, please feel free to speak up :)

    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to Flavio Bessa on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 14:18:00
    Hello Flavio;

    Flavio Bessa wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Thanks for the tip!

    You're most welcome.

    ... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Brian Rogers on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 11:38:56
    Hi Brian!

    11 May 2021 10:58, from Brian Rogers -> August Abolins:

    I never heard of PrivacyBadger. Just after a quick read/gleen
    about it, I like their ethic. It installed in my older FF under
    XP well.
    That's a must install for me. That, adblock ultimate, and duckduckgo privacy essentials. If there's others, please feel free to speak up :)

    I agree that Privacy Badger and some kind of adblocker is pretty essential. Have to check out Duckduckgo privacy essentials ... never heared from it ;) Thanx for the tip!

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:56:00
    Hello Richard;

    Richard Menedetter wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I agree that Privacy Badger and some kind of adblocker is pretty essential. Have to check out Duckduckgo privacy essentials ... never heared from it ;) Thanx for the tip!

    You're quite welcome. Considering Duckduckgo is known for their privacy
    search engine I would think their browser plugin would be decent as well.

    -Brian

    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Brian Rogers on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 20:05:00
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Wednesday 12.05.21 - 10:56, Brian Rogers wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    You're quite welcome. Considering Duckduckgo is known for
    their privacy search engine I would think their browser
    plugin would be decent as well.

    I've used DuckDuckGo occasionally by specifically going to
    their site to start some searches. But I just configured my FF
    browser to default to DDG - and see how things go.

    --
    ../|ug
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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to August Abolins on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 20:21:00
    Hello August;

    August Abolins wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I've used DuckDuckGo occasionally by specifically going to
    their site to start some searches. But I just configured my FF
    browser to default to DDG - and see how things go.

    I've used them for years with great success! Their replies to searches seem
    to parallel Google - without the usage tracking :)

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Brian Rogers on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 21:58:00
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Tuesday 11.05.21 - 09:52, you wrote to me:

    btw as I see I got on this echo per your suggestion :D

    You mean via the Telegram links?

    Glad you decided to hop in. This messaging world of echomail
    is pretty good. Paired up with a good reader/editor, finding|marking|replying is a much nicer experience than trying
    to follow (or find) a particular message on a Facecrook group.

    Forums are ok, but they require a live connection to
    participate in any way. Whereas, offline reading and editing
    is much less stressful.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Brian Rogers on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 22:18:00
    Hello Brian!

    ** On Tuesday 11.05.21 - 09:52, you wrote:

    Or you can use lynx and view the source. That may help as
    well.

    I'm not too overly concerned anymore about short links. It's
    been about 20 yrs now since TinyUrl launched. Weren't they the
    first with that idea? Anyway.. They've built a vetting process
    into them and block links that have nefarious purposes.

    The only thing I won't do is click on a short link from
    unsoliced email or if something arrives from someone I do not
    know.

    I have to wonder if that or a similar technique was used to be
    the vector for inviting the ransomeware that shut down the east
    coast pipeline.

    Krebbs article "A Closer Look at the DarkSide Ransomware Gang
    May 11, 2021" talks about the end result of that, but I wonder
    what the vector was for infection.

    This is a pretty good article that examines the techinal
    tricks:

    https://securityintelligence.com/posts/darkside-oil-pipeline- ransomware-attack/

    "A favorite entry point appears to be connecting via RDP on
    port 443 typically routing via a TOR browser."

    And.. I did not know that VPNs and Linux were not immune:

    "The malware can attack both Windows and Linux environments,
    making enterprise servers just as `encryptable' as an
    employee's endpoint. DarkSide can also attack virtual machines
    and encrypt data on their hard drives."

    Apparently all the activity of making backups is no guarantee
    that you could just ignore the ransomeware attack and just
    restore an ealier backup. Apparently, the "attack" lurks in
    the background for an amount of time that might represent a
    typical schedule for several backups - so, when it comes time
    to use a previous backup, all those backups will have already
    have copies of the infection.
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    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Flavio Bessa on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 22:21:00
    Hello Flavio!

    ** On Tuesday 11.05.21 - 10:52, you wrote to me:

     FB>> Indeed! I always open them into the browser's
    hidden mode.

    What is the hidden mode?  I'll usually hover over a link
    and see what the "real" destination is. But I don't think
    that resolves ultimate destination of a tiny url.

    In some browsers it's called "private browsing"...

    I thought that was just a way to prevent your pc from caching/
    logging your own activity. I don't see how that would work to
    aide protecting you from a malicious tinyurl.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to August Abolins on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 22:52:00
    Hello August;

    August Abolins wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I'm not too overly concerned anymore about short links. It's
    been about 20 yrs now since TinyUrl launched. Weren't they the
    first with that idea? Anyway.. They've built a vetting process
    into them and block links that have nefarious purposes.

    They still crop up from time to time. Remember it's not necessarily TinyURL itself doing the dirty deeds but the users who may decide to use it.

    The only thing I won't do is click on a short link from
    unsoliced email or if something arrives from someone I do not
    know.

    That should be standard operating practice in today's world :)

    I have to wonder if that or a similar technique was used to be
    the vector for inviting the ransomeware that shut down the east
    coast pipeline.

    Unless a formal explanation is given it'll be uncertain.

    Krebbs article "A Closer Look at the DarkSide Ransomware Gang
    May 11, 2021" talks about the end result of that, but I wonder
    what the vector was for infection.

    It may have been anything.

    This is a pretty good article that examines the techinal
    tricks:

    https://securityintelligence.com/posts/darkside-oil-pipeline- ransomware-attack/

    Security online is like a hurdle to a runner, you can only hope that you can build a hurdle so high they tire out trying to get over it.

    "A favorite entry point appears to be connecting via RDP on
    port 443 typically routing via a TOR browser."

    TOR is evil. 'nuff said. <G>

    And.. I did not know that VPNs and Linux were not immune:

    I think you're confusing a VPN with a VM.

    "The malware can attack both Windows and Linux environments,
    making enterprise servers just as `encryptable' as an
    employee's endpoint. DarkSide can also attack virtual machines
    and encrypt data on their hard drives."

    There's NO OS or platform that's 100% immune to viri/warez of any kind. There are those which may be less immune than others. Even a virtual machine has to run some form of OS on them! A VPN on the other hand is a transport mechanism that uses a combination of ipencapsulation AND encryption. These are used to hide your information and possibly your IP. This is why companies like to
    have VPNs set up for those who work-from-home.

    Apparently all the activity of making backups is no guarantee
    that you could just ignore the ransomeware attack and just
    restore an ealier backup. Apparently, the "attack" lurks in
    the background for an amount of time that might represent a
    typical schedule for several backups - so, when it comes time
    to use a previous backup, all those backups will have already
    have copies of the infection.

    If one is in need of doing a restore due to a virus or ransomware hit, then they should restore on a platform:
    - not connected to the internet
    - not the same machine as the infected one
    - look for and patch the security hole that was exploited before deploying
    that drive back into production

    Some, not all, viri are on a time trigger and may be lurking around. Others
    are not. This is why after a restore you wish to do a scan from a BOOTABLE media -not- that of the local hard drive(s). No one said being a sysadmin
    was easy work even if it's on a hobby machine.

    ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
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  • From Brian Rogers@1:142/103 to August Abolins on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 22:56:00
    Hello August;

    August Abolins wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    You mean via the Telegram links?

    I don't use Telegram. I saw it months ago for the Driod but when it comes
    to a "phone" I'm very old-school. A phone is a device you speak into and
    hear another's voice talking back. Anything else to me is as equal as
    malwares. That's why I root mine and wipe out all the apps not associated
    with voice calls associated directly with my incoming 10-digit number :)
    I don't even have 1 line of apps on my apps screen!

    Glad you decided to hop in. This messaging world of echomail
    is pretty good. Paired up with a good reader/editor, finding|marking|replying is a much nicer experience than trying
    to follow (or find) a particular message on a Facecrook group.

    It looks as if I'll be regaining my NC 142 status again. More to refresh the old noggin with <G> will be fun!

    Forums are ok, but they require a live connection to
    participate in any way. Whereas, offline reading and editing
    is much less stressful.

    Live stuff - I have a telephone
    mail - I have a .qwk reader :)

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