On 27 May 2024 12:32, you wrote to ED:
Ubi

Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live near a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

I've seen "free" wifi hotspots password protected.

That said, unless you have wi-fi of your own, it does make sense to turn the wi-fi off on the phone.

I think Ed said his router does offer wifi, (and perhaps he's using the home wifi to his phone?) But he prefers a wired connection to his PC. If his XP machine supports wifi, he'd be good to go, but he has suspicions about using wifi.


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On 27 May 2024 12:32, you wrote to ED:
Ubi

I've seen "free" wifi hotspots password protected.

I think Ed said his router does offer wifi, (and perhaps he's using the home wifi to his phone?) But he prefers a wired connection to his PC. If his XP machine supports wifi, he'd be good to go, but he has suspicions about using wifi.

My router used to have a DSL Modem on its WAN output.
I wish to use a cat5 Bluetooth device in its place to let the router use data that is on the phone even tho I know there will be an upcharge for my doing that .

Thanks for the idea to use Aftershock app.
Will look into it.

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Hello Ed Vance!

My router used to have a DSL Modem on its WAN output. I
wish to use a cat5 Bluetooth device in its place to let
the router use data that is on the phone even tho I know
there will be an upcharge for my doing that .

So.. your only source of internet right now is at the
cellphone?

If so, I don't think there is an cat5 adaptor for the phone to
feed ethernet to your devices. Usually the only possibility
with eth/cat5 adaptors that connect to smartphones is when you
want to provide internet TO the phone.

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile hotspot
on your phone.




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Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to
them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live nea
a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

I've seen "free" wifi hotspots password protected.

Yes, especially at hotels.


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Hello Ed Vance!

So.. your only source of internet right now is at the
cellphone?

Yes.

If so, I don't think there is an cat5 adaptor for the phone to
feed ethernet to your devices. Usually the only possibility
with eth/cat5 adaptors that connect to smartphones is when you
want to provide internet TO the phone.

Not wanting cat5 for the phone, in my earlier searches I saw a photo of a Bluetooth dongle that had a hole in it for a cat5 plug

The first time I heard about Bluetooth was when I was in line at store and the person behind me was talking a lot and when I asked who they were talking to I learned they had a earpiece with a mike that used Bluetooth to talk over their cellphone.

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile hotspot
on your phone.

I'm a hardhead.
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Hello Ed!

** On Tuesday 28.05.24 - 20:46, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

If so, I don't think there is an cat5 adaptor for the phone
to feed ethernet to your devices. Usually the only
possibility with eth/cat5 adaptors that connect to
smartphones is when you want to provide internet TO the
phone.

Not wanting cat5 for the phone, in my earlier searches I
saw a photo of a Bluetooth dongle that had a hole in it
for a cat5 plug

If you see that again, post the link. I'd like to see what you
were looking at.

If your phone supports Bluetooth, you can probably use that to
provide your signal to your pc. Your pc just needs to support
bluetooth too. If you are afraid of using wifi at the phone,
you can probably select Bluetooth-tethering when you enable the
phone's mobile hotspot feature.

The first time I heard about Bluetooth was when I was in
line at store and the person behind me was talking a lot
and when I asked who they were talking to I learned they
had a earpiece with a mike that used Bluetooth to talk
over their cellphone.

But that's differnet. The phone is merely supplying the regular
audio output/in over bluetooth to the earpiece/mike.

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile
hotspot on your phone.

I'm a hardhead.

Then use bluetooth!

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On 29 May 2024, August Abolins said the following...

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile
hotspot on your phone.

I'm a hardhead.

iPhones support USB tethering, it looks like some Android phones support this as well.

Tether by USB cable:

Important: Mac computers can't tether with Android by USB.

- Connect your phone to the other device with a USB cable. A notification shows at the top of the screen.
- On your phone, swipe down from the top of the screen.
- Touch and hold Hotspot.
- Turn on USB tethering.

https://support.google.com/android/answer/9059108


Using this method, there is no wifi or bluetooth signals and your phone is being charged at the same time.


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Hello Jay!

iPhones support USB tethering, it looks like some Android
phones support this as well.

[...]

Using this method, there is no wifi or bluetooth signals
and your phone is being charged at the same time.

That would sound like what Ed hopes for. But he really needs
to actually check what his phone model / android can actually
do. It appears he hasn't explored the Settings / Connections,
or Settings / Network Internet, or whatever the menu is and see
what is available.

I believe he mentioned the type of phone he has in another ftn:

"The 6 point something inch screen on this phone (Motorola g
play 2023)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQFTrSmJFs



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Hello Ed Vance!

So.. your only source of internet right now is at the
cellphone?

If so, I don't think there is an cat5 adaptor for the phone to
feed ethernet to your devices. Usually the only possibility
with eth/cat5 adaptors that connect to smartphones is when you
want to provide internet TO the phone.

The cellphone has Internet, and Bluetooth, I am wanting to put a Bluetooth device on my cat5 router WAN output.
Then use data through the cellphone while I use the computer keyboard & software that I have been familiar with.
Appreciate the help, I guess I haven't written clear enough what I have been thinking of wanting to do.
Home computers (like everyone else in this thread are using) are lots easier to use in my way of thinking.

I have lost two replies on two different days because I goofed up and tapped outside of the writing window this phone has.
As You seen I am usually long winded while writing posts.

It is very frustrating when this phone switches from composing a post to show something else because I goofed up hitting the screen somewhere else than where I suppose to be tapping.
Still learning how to use it.

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile hotspot
on your phone.

I may finally have to do that.

Ed
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On 29 May 2024, August Abolins said the following...

iPhones support USB tethering, it looks like some Android phones support this as well.

Tether by USB cable:

Important: Mac computers can't tether with Android by USB.

- Connect your phone to the other device with a USB cable. A notification shows at the top of the screen.
- On your phone, swipe down from the top of the screen.
- Touch and hold Hotspot.
- Turn on USB tethering.

https://support.google.com/android/answer/9059108

Using this method, there is no wifi or bluetooth signals and your phone is being charged at the same time.

Jay

Thanks for the link.
I saw it covers all three types of connections.
I bookmarked it .

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Hello Ed!

Your easiest solution (as has been mentioned before) is to
simply get a wifi dongle for your pc, and enable mobile hotspot
on your phone.

I may finally have to do that.

Did you see my message to Jay wrt to a USB (hardwire) solution?

Is your phone "The 6 point something inch screen on this phone
(Motorola g play 2023)" ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQFTrSmJFs

Did you look under Settings / Connections, or Settings /
Network Internet, or whatever the menu is and see what is
available?

This might not be the ethernet-based type of connection that
you imagine, but a USB method is direct to your pc. Try it.
If you already have the USB cable for charging, you can get
your pc connected to the internet right away without additional dongles/equipment.

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Hello Ed!

Did you see my message to Jay wrt to a USB (hardwire) solution?

I saw Jay's post and replied to him.

Is your phone "The 6 point something inch screen on this phone
(Motorola g play 2023)" ???

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQFTrSmJFs

I looked at it.

Did you look under Settings / Connections, or Settings /
Network Internet, or whatever the menu is and see what is
available?

I have when I first got this phone and do wander around that area some.

This might not be the ethernet-based type of connection that
you imagine, but a USB method is direct to your pc. Try it.
If you already have the USB cable for charging, you can get
your pc connected to the internet right away without additional dongles/equipment

The USB charging cable seems that it is for charging only.
I plugged it in the XP PC but nothing showed up in Windows Explorer with that wire, but the USB wire for my earlier 3G phone showed up O.K. when I have used it.
Microsoft Support article that I read long ago said USB connections weren't available for Android.
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Hello Ed!

The USB charging cable seems that it is for charging only.
I plugged it in the XP PC but nothing showed up in Windows Explorer with that wire, but the USB wire for my earlier 3G phone showed up O.K. when I have used it.

Then you have a couple choices. (1) get a usb cable that matches your new phone and make sure it's a data type too. (2) get a usb adaptor for your earlier usb cable.

Microsoft Support article that I read long ago said USB connections weren't available for Android.

I don't think that's entirely true.

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What I meant to say was USB between Android and XP PC wasn't allowed.
Can't find the URL where I read that right now
Why I am wanting to use Bluetooth w/ PC's connected to the Linksys cat5 router is so the phone could be with my wife but my computers could still talk to it (the phone being ON off course).
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Aftershock App showed up in Google Play Store as a Musical that groups participated in.
That is all that were in the results list when I searched.
Thanks.

Ed
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Hello Ed Vance!

Aftershock App showed up in Google Play Store as a Musical
that groups participated in.

That is all that were in the results list when I searched.
Thanks.

I see at least 4 or 5 results when searching for "aftershock".
Maybe you didn't scroll further enough down? Look for the icon
that looks like a white envelope with a blue backround.


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Hello Ed!

What I meant to say was USB between Android and XP PC
wasn't allowed. Can't find the URL where I read that right
now

I've been reading a bit on that too. Apparently some special
driver is required.

https://xdaforums.com/t/remote-ndis-based-internet-sharing- device-driver.445436/

I never tried USB tethering on my XP pc. Nor am I even
interested to try. Wireless is so much simpler!

Why I am wanting to use Bluetooth w/ PC's connected to the
Linksys cat5 router is so the phone could be with my wife
but my computers could still talk to it (the phone being
ON off course).

OK.. Now THAT's a different story. Then you NEED to go
wireless, not USB! :D


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** On Friday 31.05.24 - 18:55, August Abolins wrote to Ed Vance:

Why I am wanting to use Bluetooth w/ PC's connected to the
Linksys cat5 router is so the phone could be with my wife
but my computers could still talk to it (the phone being
ON off course).

OK.. Now THAT's a different story. Then you NEED to go
wireless, not USB! :D

Another thought. If you can switch your router to repeater/
extender mode or bridge mode, the router could then pickup the
mobile hotspot signal from the phone. Then you could have the
router offer the internet connectivity via its eth/cat5 ports.
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Thanks, I will try looking again for the Envelope when I search for Aftershock.
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Hello Ed!

I've been reading a bit on that too. Apparently some special
driver is required.

https://xdaforums.com/t/remote-ndis-based-internet-sharing- device-driver.445436/

I never tried USB tethering on my XP pc. Nor am I even
interested to try. Wireless is so much simpler!

OK.. Now THAT's a different story. Then you NEED to go
wireless, not USB! :

When You say wireless I think Bluetooth not Wi-Fi.
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AFAIK, wired routers don't have repeater/extender mode.
My router is a Linksys BEFSX41.
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Hi Ed...

AFAIK, wired routers don't have repeater/extender mode.
My router is a Linksys BEFSX41.
Ed

ok. that explains a lot. not sure why you were fixated on a "cat5" solution then. BT or wifi direct from the phone to your PC is the only way to go then.

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Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins <=-

Microsoft Support article that I read long ago said USB connections weren't available for Android.

When you plug an android phone into a PC, there should be an option
from the notification window to change the USB format from USB
charging, file transfer, or MTP transfer. Selecting USB transfer
should let it show up in Windows Explorer.

At least, that's how it's been with the last couple of phones -
although I store media on an external card in my phone, and it's faster
to remove the card and plug the card directly into the computer rather
than transfer through the phone.



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Hi Ed...

ok. that explains a lot. not sure why you were fixated on a "cat5" solution then. BT or wifi direct from the phone to your PC is the only way to go then.

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I was thinking I could substitute a BT device where the old DSL modem connected to the WAN output and then use Internet thru the cellphone as I did when using the DSL modem.
This model phone has BT 4.0 on it.
I seen that v 5.0 is downward compatible to older versions of BT.
So any device I get that made for v4 or v5 would be fine for me.
It just bugs me that I can't find the device I saw earlier when I started looking.
History ought to show it for me, I have used history settings on the Computer(s) as in Firefox and maybe Thunderbird lots of times

I even occasionally make a file of all that's in the C: and the D: partition(s) so later when I am wondering where I Saved a file, I can open the Text File I most recently made and then use CTRL f to Find where I stuck that file, so I can open it.
I make many many many subdirectories, some I look into regularly, many others I don't where they are OR what's in them, BUT MY TEXT FILE DOES.

A Tree of my C:\ drive(partition) would show some places have 4 or more nested subdirectories in them.
Go ahead and laugh, it's My computer Not Yours.
Ed
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When you plug an android phone into a PC, there should be an option
from the notification window to change the USB format from USB
charging, file transfer, or MTP transfer. Selecting USB transfer
should let it show up in Windows Explorer.

TKS, I will look around the phone for those options to see if the supplied USB wire can be used to look into the phones innards, as I can on the old 3G phone. The one I have now is 4G.

At least, that's how it's been with the last couple of phones -
although I store media on an external card in my phone, and it's faster
to remove the card and plug the card directly into the computer rather
than transfer through the phone.

I added a Memory Card, but not learned how to tell the phone how to let Me store or look at anything that's in it.
I hate being in kindergarten with this thing. ;)

... Is something missing?

In that thing above my shoulders YES!
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Hello Ed!

I was thinking I could substitute a BT device where the
old DSL modem connected to the WAN output and then use
Internet thru the cellphone as I did when using the DSL
modem.

I have never heard of anyone connecting an external BT adaptor
to a router port, and expect BT connectivity that way. I can't
find such a device either.

Just get a BT adaptor for the pc, and establish a direct
connection to the phone that way. But, maybe special drivers
would be needed for XP support. Do your research. Good luck.

I even occasionally make a file of all that's in the C:
and the D: partition(s) so later when I am wondering where
I Saved a file, I can open the Text File I most recently
made and then use CTRL f to Find where I stuck that file,
so I can open it. I make many many many subdirectories,
some I look into regularly, many others I don't where they
are OR what's in them, BUT MY TEXT FILE DOES.

I just use Effective File Search on my XP pc when the windows
search fails me:

https://ibb.co/SvhBPzD


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Hello Ed!

I have never heard of anyone connecting an external BT adaptor
to a router port, and expect BT connectivity that way. I can't
find such a device either.

What's bugging me is I saw a BT adapter with a rj-45 socket on one end and an antenna on the other end once
Apparently I didn't bookmark the page.

Just get a BT adaptor for the pc, and establish a direct
connection to the phone that way. But, maybe special drivers
would be needed for XP support. Do your research. Good luck.

Thanks.

I just use Effective File Search on my XP pc when the windows
search fails me:

I looked at the link, no way to get it on my XP PC unless I visit a neighbor and use their PC.

https://ibb.co/SvhBPzD

Scinet echo on this BBS has been archived, I looked at your reply to Nelgin on Apr 04 20:57:00 2022 .
You had a link in your post to
https://kolico.ca/ftn/scinet

After I looked at it and then returned to the BBS I saw the note in the post "BTW.. You can drag the points around."
Went back to that page and moved some of the points.
THANKS!
That is an amusing page.

I couldn't post a reply while in the thread on scinet echo and thought to mention it the next msg you sent to me in whatever echo I found it in.

Real Nice graphic.
Ed

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