Here is a good conspirancy subject.

I got to thinking about this one day. I know that the GPS age is a great resource that we have. I don't argue with that. However, what is to prevent "Big Brother" from tracking us. They could easily get your GPS code, and track you like that. Now, I don't do anything that I would need to be tracked, but just don't like to know that it could be done.

It would be a good way for the car companies to track their cars incase they get stolen, or the people don't make their payments. But I just fell invaded if the Govt. could track someone.

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Mulling over Rick Eck to All 12 Jan 2006

Hi Rick,

Here is a good conspirancy subject.

Yes, it is.

I got to thinking about this one day. I know that the GPS age is a
great resource that we have. I don't argue with that.

Neither do I. It can be a lifesaver if used to locate someone lost in
the outback, at sea, or to locate stolen vehicles etc.

However, what is to prevent "Big Brother" from tracking us. They
could easily get your GPS code, and track you like that. Now, I
don't do anything that I would need to be tracked, but just don't
like to know that it could be done.

Well, if you drive a motor vehicle, you might find that you will be
charged road-use & other congestion charges & the like based on your
GPS & mileage records, or it might even be used to prevent you from
entering certain parts of the city if (eg) the President & his minders
are there, or if there is a natural disaster.

It would be a good way for the car companies to track their cars
incase they get stolen, or the people don't make their payments.

Yes, & as it has been used to note that drivers have exceeded the speed
limit.

But I just fell invaded if the Govt. could track someone.

If they can, they will, on the pretext of combatting terrorism, improving traffic flow, providing emergency services etc.

Cheers, Steve..

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If they can, they will, on the pretext of combatting terrorism, improving traffic flow, providing emergency services etc.

Steve,
I read through the whole post, and found it very agreeable (sp). But when I got to this point, I had to reply. Not that I disagree with the above. I completely agree with anything the govt. has to do to combat the war on terror!
I am a Vet of Dessert Storm, and I believe MOST of what the govt. is doing is for the country's good.
However, we know there are really good hackers out there. Sure there are those who do it as hobbies but there are those out there who really want to do harm. Not only to people they know, but others. Now, good hackers know that there is no system that can't be hacked! So lets say you have a GPS system on your car. And your serial number is in their system. Maybe not to track you, but just there. A hacker could get your number, track you down, and do ????Whatever. There is no telling. They already know the type of vehicle you drive. They already know your credit card number (got from On Star or whatever service you may have). See where I am going? This is just one of a million different possibilities (sp).
Once again, I think GPS is a great thing. Like you said, it has saved many lives! And it can combat terror! I am all for it in that matter. But when it all is said and done, what prevents anyone else from knowing what you are doing? Do you thing there could be a program installed that may allow the law enforcement to see you, but other's can't? Even if there was, we know the programmer of that software would have a backdoor, which could be hacked. The problems are endless..

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Mulling over Rick Eck to Steve Asher 18 Jan 2006

If they can, they will, on the pretext of combatting terrorism, improving traffic flow, providing emergency services etc.

I read through the whole post, and found it very agreeable
(sp). But when I got to this point, I had to reply. Not that I
disagree with the above. I completely agree with anything the
govt. has to do to combat the war on terror! I am a Vet of Dessert
Storm, and I believe MOST of what the govt. is doing is for the
country's good.

What are they doing? The "war on terror" is simply a "war" on a method
of war. Those using terrorism are using it as a means to an end; in the
case of al Qaeda and similar Islamic groups, it is to establish a global Caliphate under Sharia Law. Included in this is the destruction of Israel,
and Western nations, such as the USA. With all the might of the US military
in Iraq, the "insurgency" is spreading; even in Afghanistan, the Taliban
and the like are regaining control, much as happened when the West used
the "brave Mujahideen" to defeat or demoralise the Soviet Union.

However, we know there are really good hackers out there.
Sure there are those who do it as hobbies but there are those out
there who really want to do harm. Not only to people they know,
but others. Now, good hackers know that there is no system that
can't be hacked! So lets say you have a GPS system on your car.
And your serial number is in their system. Maybe not to track you,
but just there. A hacker could get your number, track you down,
and do ????Whatever. There is no telling. They already know the
type of vehicle you drive. They already know your credit card
number (got from On Star or whatever service you may have). See
where I am going? This is just one of a million different
possibilities (sp).

Once again, I think GPS is a great thing. Like you said, it
has saved many lives! And it can combat terror! I am all for it
in that matter.

How would you (or the powers that be) combat terror with GPS? It might
be possible to track the mobile phones or vehicles of suspected terror suspects, but that implies that their identities are known. It might
be possible to track the presence of every person or vehicle in the
vicinity of a terror "target" - airport, monument, significant building
or site; but then everyone is a "suspect", and the tracking is for
control.

But when it all is said and done, what prevents anyone else from knowing what you are doing? Do you thing there could be a program installed that may allow the law enforcement to see you, but
other's can't? Even if there was, we know the programmer of that software would have a backdoor, which could be hacked. The
problems are endless..

Yes, and as seen in the last few days, if electronic records are kept,
then it is possible for the Government to demand the records, for some
purpose or another. For now, electronic records, GPS records and the
like leave an audit trail of what we have done and where we have been;
it is possible to use GPS to prevent access to restricted areas, such
as people on home detention not being allowed to deviate from their
normal route to work, or to leave home outside certain hours. It might
be possible to prevent "unauthorised" people from catching a train or
bus, or being near the airport, or underaged people from being near
licenced premises etc etc. So many possibilities for regulation and
control.

Cheers, Steve..

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