• Greetings From A New FidoNet BBS

    From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to All on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 22:06:00
    Greetings one and all. Today is the first day of having our BBS connected to FidoNet, and this is one of twelve echoes that we have subscribed to, being as it seems that it might be interesting, assuming of course that it is still active. During my life time I have considered quite a few conspiracy theories, although to be candid, I can't recall any of them having ever come true. I suppose that is why we call them theories. :)

    I am not certain what kinds of theories are currently being discussed here,
    but I will be keeping an eye on this forum in order to find out. If something catches my eye, I'll be sure to post. Thanks!

    Jeff

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  • From Gaylen Hintz@1:288/34 to Jeff Snyder on Thursday, March 26, 2009 02:07:35
    Hello Jeff.

    While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to All:

    I am not certain what kinds of theories are currently being
    discussed here, but I will be keeping an eye on this forum in
    order to find out. If something catches my eye, I'll be sure
    to post. Thanks!

    Ummm, a lot of lurkers around but not too many posting much
    anymore. Anyway, welcome to the wonderful world of fidonet! :)

    Gaylen



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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2009 23:08:00
    Hello Gaylen. Thanks for the welcome. I've subscribed my BBS to twelve echoes, and thus far, it appears that most of them are completely dead, or near dead.
    I suppose that FidoNet is far from what it used to be when I first joined back in 1993. The times they are a changin' ...and not necessarily for the best.

    Jeff

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Jeff Snyder on Thursday, March 26, 2009 04:15:46
    Replying to a message of Jeff Snyder to All:

    Greetings one and all. Today is the first day of having our BBS
    connected to FidoNet, and this is one of twelve echoes that we have subscribed to, being as it seems that it might be interesting,
    assuming of course that it is still active. During my life time I
    have considered quite a few conspiracy theories, although to be
    candid, I can't recall any of them having ever come true. I suppose
    that is why we call them theories. :)

    I am not certain what kinds of theories are currently being discussed here, but I will be keeping an eye on this forum in order to find
    out. If something catches my eye, I'll be sure to post. Thanks!

    Welcome aboard. Always glad to see new faces. There hasn't been a lot
    of discussion here, but a fellow down in your general neck of the woods
    (I think he's in Australia) occasionally posts snippets of articles about Islamicist goings on.

    If you haven't subscribed to MEMORIES you might want to. COFFEE-KLATSCH
    is another general talk echo that's pretty much flame-free. The religion (HOLYSMOKE)
    and political echoes have lots of flames but not a lot of back-and-forth discussion of
    issues. While FIDONEWS is supposed to be for discussion and submission of items
    in/for the Fidonews newsletter it's become pretty much an international chat echo.


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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Bob Ackley on Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:43:00
    Hello Bob. Thanks for the welcome. It's been almost a week now since I first rejoined FidoNet, and I am quickly forming the impression that it is for the most part dead, and not even close to what it used to be when I first joined back in 1993. Sad, but with the "glamour" of the WWW, it is an archaic technology, probably populated by aging fogies like me. :)

    Thank-you for the echo recommendations. I have subscribed to MEMORIES as well as to COFFEE_KLATSCH, and am waiting to see what comes in. So far, nothing. As far as HOLYSMOKE, thanks but no thanks. If I recall correctly, I subscribed to that echo back in the 90's, and it was horrible.

    To be quite frank, I am not interested in participating in echoes which have been overcome by, and which are lorded over by air-heads, flamers and trolls, who either don't know what they are talking about, or who are only interested in building up their own egos by criticizing, belittling and putting other people down. I find it all very immature, yet in the brief week since I returned to FidoNet, I see that such characters remain a blight on FidoNet.

    Again, thanks for the recommendations. Unless I see some serious and interesting traffic in this echo soon, I will probably unsubscribe it from my BBS.

    Jeff

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  • From Lee Lofaso@3:800/432 to Jeff Snyder on Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:57:24
    Hello Jeff,

    Hello Bob. Thanks for the welcome. It's been almost a week now since I first JS>rejoined FidoNet, and I am quickly forming the impression that it is for the JS>most part dead, and not even close to what it used to be when I first joined JS>back in 1993. Sad, but with the "glamour" of the WWW, it is an archaic JS>technology, probably populated by aging fogies like me. :)

    Bring in some fresh blood to fido! The more the merrier!

    Thank-you for the echo recommendations. I have subscribed to MEMORIES as wel JS>as to COFFEE_KLATSCH, and am waiting to see what comes in. So far, nothing. JS>far as HOLYSMOKE, thanks but no thanks. If I recall correctly, I subscribed JS>that echo back in the 90's, and it was horrible.

    MEMORIES is kind of a crazy echo, with no theme whatsoever. But it is flame-free, and lots of nice folks abound. COFFEE_KLATSCH is also flame
    free, and also devoid of political and religious discussion (flame wars
    tend to develop along those lines in virtually every echo). Of course,
    if flame wars are your thing, there is always HOLYSMOKE for the
    religiously inclined, and various POLITICS echoes for the politics
    inclined. The COOKING echo is also flame-free, with lots of nice
    folks sharing recipes on just about everything under the sun.

    To be quite frank, I am not interested in participating in echoes which have JS>been overcome by, and which are lorded over by air-heads, flamers and trolls JS>who either don't know what they are talking about, or who are only intereste JS>in building up their own egos by criticizing, belittling and putting other JS>people down. I find it all very immature, yet in the brief week since I JS>returned to FidoNet, I see that such characters remain a blight on FidoNet.

    Fido is what fido is, participants being the partipants they are.
    Some will be airheads. Some will be blowhards. Some will be complete
    idiots. Others will be more thoughtful. And a rare few will provide
    real insight. But I find it best to allow fido be fido, and participate
    in areas I choose to participate. For me, that makes for a much more pleasurable experience.

    Again, thanks for the recommendations. Unless I see some serious and JS>interesting traffic in this echo soon, I will probably unsubscribe it from m JS>BBS.

    "Soon" is a relative term. Some echoes ebb and flow. What might seem
    like an inactive echo might become very active, or vice versa. It might
    be weeks, or even months, before an echo catches on. Or traffic falls
    off. Just the way it is in the world of fido.

    --Lee


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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:55:00
    Hello Lee. Thanks for sharing your pointers and views regarding FidoNet and FidoNet users.

    Well, being as this is the conspiracy theory echo, let me throw something really wild out there and see what people think.

    Have you ever stopped to consider that promoting abortion and gay and lesbian rights might actually be a subtle form of government sanctioned population growth control?

    Think about it. Every nation has limited resources, and some more than other.
    A country can only comfortably support a total population of a certain size before it begins to strain those limited resources. Consider how slowly the population of the USA has grown over the decades, while some other nations' populations explode.

    By promoting abortion, birth control, and gay and lesbian rights, the government is in effect deceiving the people into thinking that it is their idea, that is, the people's idea, to keep the size of the population in check, but is it really the people's idea, or is it really the government, which realizes that there are only so many resources to go around, and that if there is a short supply of those resources, due to an extended population, there is going to be trouble?

    Abortion cuts down on population growth.
    Birth control cuts down on population growth.
    Being gay or lesbian cuts down on population growth.

    Sounds crazy, doesn't it? But what if it is true?

    Jeff

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  • From Dean Steele@1:114/271 to Jeff Snyder on Sunday, March 29, 2009 07:52:40
    Re: Re: Greetings From A New FidoNet BBS

    Hello Lee. Thanks for sharing your pointers and views regarding FidoNet and FidoNet users.

    Well, being as this is the conspiracy theory echo, let me throw something really wild out there and see what people think.

    Have you ever stopped to consider that promoting abortion and gay and lesbian rights might actually be a subtle form of government sanctioned population growth control?

    Think about it. Every nation has limited resources, and some more than other. A country can only comfortably support a total population of a certain size before it begins to strain those limited resources. Consider how slowly the population of the USA has grown over the decades, while some other nations' populations explode.

    By promoting abortion, birth control, and gay and lesbian rights, the government is in effect deceiving the people into thinking that it is their idea, that is, the people's idea, to keep the size of the population in check but is it really the people's idea, or is it really the government, which realizes that there are only so many resources to go around, and that if ther is a short supply of those resources, due to an extended population, there is going to be trouble?

    Abortion cuts down on population growth.
    Birth control cuts down on population growth.
    Being gay or lesbian cuts down on population growth.

    Sounds crazy, doesn't it? But what if it is true?

    Jeff

    I don't think it is such a crazy idea. I've read that Obama is pretty public in his abortion agenda to support orginization who promote abortion as a method of population control.

    Now gay and lesbian rights; in my opinion, is a little more far fetched. I wouldn't doubt it is in the back of some folks minds. Haven't done much research myself, but I would guess that it isn't uncommon for lesbian couples to use such methods as artifical insemination. Might not work as well for gay couples =). They are more likely to adopt. I guess you could try to argue that being adopted might support a longer life expectancy. An easy argument if you are talking about world-wide.

    -Dean

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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Dean Steele on Monday, March 30, 2009 05:17:00
    On 03/30/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Dean Steele: Re: Greetings From A New
    FidoNet BBS.

    I don't think it is such a crazy idea. I've read that Obama is pretty public in his abortion agenda to support orginization who promote abortion as a method of population control.

    Now gay and lesbian rights; in my opinion, is a little more far fetched. I wouldn't doubt it is in the back of some folks minds. Haven't done much research myself, but I would guess that it isn't uncommon for lesbian couples to use such methods as artifical insemination. Might not work as well for gay couples =). They are more likely to adopt. I guess you could try to argue that being adopted might support a longer life expectancy. An easy argument if you are talking about world-wide.


    Hello Dean. Yes, as I point out in my recent eight-part series on abortion, as a Conservative Christian, I realized some time ago that Obama is bad news when it comes to the issues of abortion, embryonic stem cell research and gay and lesbian rights. His public record on these issues is very clear, and sadly, he has already begun to implement his agenda.

    Anyway, my original post here was just an interesting thought that I've pondered on occasion. As you may tell, I don't have much faith or trust in Big Government. My daughter considers me just a crazy conspiracy theorist. I can't begin to imagine where she got that idea from, can you? :)

    Jeff

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  • From Lee Lofaso@3:800/432 to Jeff Snyder on Sunday, March 29, 2009 16:50:14
    Hello Jeff,

    Hello Lee. Thanks for sharing your pointers and views regarding
    FidoNet and FidoNet users.

    Well, being as this is the conspiracy theory echo, let me throw
    something really wild out there and see what people think.

    Girls gone wild? That could be fun. :)

    Have you ever stopped to consider that promoting abortion and gay
    and lesbian rights might actually be a subtle form of government JS>sanctioned population growth control?

    As part of a larger population growth conspiracy, it is very possible.

    Think about it. Every nation has limited resources, and some more
    than other.

    The planet as a whole has limited (or finite) resources. Each
    and every country trades with other countries, no country being totally independent. However, it is not so much a question of limited resources,
    but rather how poorly mankind has managed those limited resources.

    A country can only comfortably support a total population of a
    certain size before it begins to strain those limited resources.

    What is that "certain size"? This planet as a whole can easily
    support at least 100 billion people. Yet the world population today
    is roughly six and a half billion. On hundred years ago the same
    arguments were being made about the earth being over-populated, but
    those arguments turned out to be bogus. Just as those arguments
    today. So what is the problem? Is it really "over-population"?
    Or rather poor management of finite resources?

    Consider how slowly the population of the USA has grown over the
    decades, while some other nations' populations explode.

    The population of the USA continues to grow only because of
    immigration. In Europe, the population is declining. In Japan,
    the population is declining. In Russia, the population is declining.
    In Israel, the population is declining. Yet in Muslim countries,
    the population is increasing by leaps and bounds.

    By promoting abortion, birth control, and gay and lesbian rights, the JS>government is in effect deceiving the people into thinking that it is their JS>idea, that is, the people's idea, to keep the size of the population in chec JS>but is it really the people's idea, or is it really the government, which JS>realizes that there are only so many resources to go around, and that if the JS>is a short supply of those resources, due to an extended population, there i JS>going to be trouble?

    Abortion is taboo in the Muslim world. Birth control is taboo in
    the Muslim world. Homosexuality is taboo in the Muslim world. But
    not so in the West. It used to be that abortion, birth control, and homosexuality were taboo in Western cultures, due to the influence
    of Christianity. Judaism is a very worldly religion, and as such
    does not place as much emphasis on abortion, birth control, or
    homosexuality as do Muslims and (religious) Christians. Because
    the world has grown more secular, it is possible for a conspiracy
    to limit population to take hold.

    Abortion cuts down on population growth.
    Birth control cuts down on population growth.
    Being gay or lesbian cuts down on population growth.

    Sounds crazy, doesn't it? But what if it is true?

    With fewer people around, more land is available for a wealthy
    elite to gobble up. What if some elitist group set in motion a
    plan to eliminate 90% of the world population, through peaceful
    means. How would this elite group go about doing so, without
    the people revolting?

    Of course, limiting such a plan to abortion, birth control, and
    the promotion of same-sex marriage would take a very long time to
    eliminate such a vastly large number of people. Certainly there
    has to be a faster way.

    Let's add lots of estrogen to the water supply.
    Let's pollute the air with lots of contaminants.
    Let's blow up the moon so women can't menstruate.
    That should be for starters. :)

    --Lee


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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, March 30, 2009 14:58:00
    On 03/30/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Lee Lofaso: Re: Greetings From A New.

    However, it is not so much a question of limited resources, but rather how poorly mankind has managed those limited resources. JS>A country can only


    Excellent point, Lee. We dump boatloads of grain in the ocean in order to jack up the price, while people in other nations starve. We over-fish when we think no one is looking, and we destroy virgin forests in order to profit from the oil, gas and other commodities contained therein, and on and on it goes. This world is all about money and profit, and "Love thy neighbor as thyself" has been blown to the wind. Truly sad.

    It is true indeed that conservative Christianity once served as a restraining force in the USA and in other nations, but it is slowly disappearing. I also concur that Judaism is a much more liberal, secular religion, unless one is an Orthodox Jew...although with so much serious compromise now occurring in the American Christian church, is there really that much difference. The Muslims have certainly gotten it right on some of the social issues, but spiritually and politically, they are also lacking in my view.

    BTW, have you ever seen the old British futuristic sci-fi movie "ZPG: Zero Population Growth"? It came out in 1972 and stars Oliver Reed and Geraldine Chaplin. It was a very interesting movie in which, you guessed it, having children was outlawed unless it was sanctioned by the government. Children were replaced with robots, instead, and people were taught, or expected, to love them.

    Jeff

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Jeff Snyder on Sunday, March 29, 2009 05:23:16
    Replying to a message of Jeff Snyder to Lee Lofaso:

    Hello Lee. Thanks for sharing your pointers and views regarding
    FidoNet and FidoNet users.

    Well, being as this is the conspiracy theory echo, let me throw
    something really wild out there and see what people think.

    Have you ever stopped to consider that promoting abortion and gay and lesbian rights might actually be a subtle form of government
    sanctioned population growth control?

    No. If only because bureaucrooks aren't smart enough to have thought of it. And both of the things you mentioned have been around for centuries, long before population control became an issue.

    Think about it. Every nation has limited resources, and some more than other. A country can only comfortably support a total population of a certain size before it begins to strain those limited resources.
    Consider how slowly the population of the USA has grown over the
    decades, while some other nations' populations explode.

    Actually most of Europe has the same "problem" - native population not reproducing
    enough to maintain the numbers and therefore slowly declining population (IOW a
    birth
    rate of less than 2.0). So, AFAIK, does Russia (but for different reasons, I think).
    The only areas where populations seem to be exploding are areas where the people are
    not educated, are poor and do not have access to either education or materials for birth
    control, and areas which have strict religious control of the population (read:
    Islamic
    nations, but Christian nations in general and Catholic nations in particular would be the
    same way if the people in them allowed it to happen). In this country the television set
    is quite likely the most effective form of birth control and has been since Jack Paar
    (Carson's predecessor) took over the Tonight Show.

    By promoting abortion, birth control, and gay and lesbian rights, the government is in effect deceiving the people into thinking that it is their idea, that is, the people's idea, to keep the size of the
    population in check, but is it really the people's idea, or is it
    really the government, which realizes that there are only so many resources to go around, and that if there is a short supply of those resources, due to an extended population, there is going to be
    trouble?

    Actually the government is not promoting abortion, birth control or gay/lesbian rights. It is not suppressing them, but that isn't the same thing as supporting
    them; it is not persecuting religionists either, although some would have people
    believe that it is. Mainland China is actively promoting abortion and birth control,
    this country isn't.

    Abortion cuts down on population growth.

    It also reduces the numbers of unwanted/abused children, and reduces the
    number of children in orphanages and foster homes. Some of the anti-abortionists
    claim that fifty million abortions have occurred since the 1970s - assuming that's
    true, does this country really need to have fifty million more people in it?

    Birth control cuts down on population growth.

    Yes it does.

    Being gay or lesbian cuts down on population growth.

    Not necessarily. Some of them want to raise children.

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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Bob Ackley on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 08:11:00
    On 03/31/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Bob Ackley: Greetings From A New
    FidoNet BBS.

    No. If only because bureaucrooks aren't smart enough to have thought of it. And both of the things you mentioned have been around for centuries, long before population control became an issue.


    How do you know they aren't smart enough to have thought of it? :P

    Population control has been around for a long, long time...millennia in fact. What do you think war and foreign occupation are? They are population control, and population reduction on a large scale. :)

    Actually the government is not promoting abortion, birth control or gay/lesbian rights. It is not suppressing them, but that isn't the same thing as supporting them; it is not persecuting religionists either, although some would have people believe that it is. Mainland China is actively promoting abortion and birth control, this country isn't.


    That really depends on your perspective. Please note that in my original comment I stated that these practices are government-sanctioned. In my view,
    by sanctioning such things, and allowing such things, and by even facilitating them through current laws, it is in fact a form of promotion. Please note that I didn't say enforce, I said promote...although in the case of abortion, the Supreme Court certainly put its rubber stamp on it with Roe v. Wade. The day the U.S. Government does enforce any of these things, you are right; we might all as well move to China.

    It also reduces the numbers of unwanted/abused children, and reduces the number of children in orphanages and foster homes. Some of the anti-abortionists claim that fifty million abortions have occurred since the 1970s - assuming that's true, does this country really need to have fifty million more people in it?


    We obviously have very different opinions when it comes to the issue of abortion. Why call them "anti-abortionists". "Pro-Life Advocates" is a much more accurate and descriptive phrase. If you would really like to fully understand my position regarding abortion and birth control, and see actual facts and figures regarding abortion, please go here:

    www.endtimeprophecy.net/EPN-1/GroupPages/grupabrt.html

    Not necessarily. Some of them want to raise children.


    True, but in many cases, they ADOPT children which have already been born to others; so in a way, such relationships do reduce the population.

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Jeff Snyder on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 03:43:40
    Replying to a message of Jeff Snyder to Lee Lofaso:

    BTW, have you ever seen the old British futuristic sci-fi movie "ZPG:
    Zero Population Growth"? It came out in 1972 and stars Oliver Reed
    and Geraldine Chaplin. It was a very interesting movie in which, you guessed it, having children was outlawed unless it was sanctioned by
    the government. Children were replaced with robots, instead, and
    people were taught, or expected, to love them.

    Note that Sony has invented a robot dog that behaves quite a bit like a real one - although it doesn't leave 'calling cards' like real ones do. I suspect they might have picked up the idea from the robot pet dog in Battlestar Galactica those many moons ago. In any case, they're also pretty far along with robot people, too.

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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Bob Ackley on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 20:25:00
    On 04/01/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Bob Ackley: Greetings From A New.

    Note that Sony has invented a robot dog that behaves quite a bit like a real one - although it doesn't leave 'calling cards' like real ones do. I suspect they might have picked up the idea from the robot pet dog in Battlestar Galactica those many moons ago. In any case, they're also pretty far along with robot people, too.


    Yes, I am aware of Sony's dog. If I recall correctly, it is called AIBO, and according to Wikipedia, it stands for "Artificial Intelligence roBOt. It is also a homonym for the Japanese word for "pal".

    Yes, I remember the dog from the original Battlestar Galactica series. In
    fact, last year, and the early part of this year, I did an entire watching marathon of BSG 1978, BSG 1980, BSG 2003 mini-series, BSG webisodes, and of course, the BSG remake series, which just ended two weeks ago. BTW, that BSG dog-like creature was called Muffet, or Muffit, or something like that.

    Oh, also, just remembered...in the final moment of the finale of the BSG remake, they showed all of these different kinds of robots, which, of course, included AIBO and other more human-looking robots.

    I've been keeping track of nanotechnology and robotics for a number of years now. I find it interesting, as well as somewhat alarming. They say that by the middle of this century, computers may surpass human intelligence. In a sense, they already do, and speed-wise, well, we all know the answer to that. Are we looking at a "Terminator" self-fulfilled prophecy? Time will tell. Even some scientific deep thinkers are now saying that we are allowing our technology to get ahead of our minds and hearts...and that is a bit scary.

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Jeff Snyder on Thursday, April 02, 2009 03:41:46
    Replying to a message of Jeff Snyder to Bob Ackley:

    On 04/01/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Bob Ackley: Greetings From A New.

    Note that Sony has invented a robot dog that behaves quite a bit like
    a real one - although it doesn't leave 'calling cards' like real
    ones do. I suspect they might have picked up the idea from the
    robot pet dog in Battlestar Galactica those many moons ago. In any
    case, they're also pretty far along with robot people, too.


    Yes, I am aware of Sony's dog. If I recall correctly, it is called
    AIBO, and according to Wikipedia, it stands for "Artificial
    Intelligence roBOt. It is also a homonym for the Japanese word for
    "pal".

    Yes, I remember the dog from the original Battlestar Galactica series.
    In fact, last year, and the early part of this year, I did an entire watching marathon of BSG 1978, BSG 1980, BSG 2003 mini-series, BSG webisodes, and of course, the BSG remake series, which just ended two weeks ago. BTW, that BSG dog-like creature was called Muffet, or
    Muffit, or something like that.

    Oh, also, just remembered...in the final moment of the finale of the
    BSG remake, they showed all of these different kinds of robots,
    which, of course, included AIBO and other more human-looking robots.

    I've been keeping track of nanotechnology and robotics for a number of years now. I find it interesting, as well as somewhat alarming. They
    say that by the middle of this century, computers may surpass human intelligence. In a sense, they already do, and speed-wise, well, we
    all know the answer to that. Are we looking at a "Terminator" self-fulfilled prophecy? Time will tell. Even some scientific deep thinkers are now saying that we are allowing our technology to get
    ahead of our minds and hearts...and that is a bit scary.

    Not sure if it's Sony, but I recently read about an outfit in Japan that is developing a 'nurse' robot to work in nursing homes. Sort of an electronic companion to the people there.

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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Bob Ackley on Saturday, April 04, 2009 02:31:00
    On 04/04/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Bob Ackley: Robots.

    Not sure if it's Sony, but I recently read about an outfit in Japan that is developing a 'nurse' robot to work in nursing homes. Sort of an electronic companion to the people there.


    Gosh, Sarah and John Connor, where are you? We need you now! :)

    Seriously, without truly understanding human emotions and needs, how could a robot, no matter how sophisticated, ever take the place of a real human being, particularly someone like a nurse?

    I am also reminded of Robert Picardo's character, the holographic doctor in Star Trek Voyager. He's very comical, just as he tended to be in Stargate Atlantis.

    But anyway, my point is that there is no replacement for a human touch to things.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@3:800/432 to Jeff Snyder on Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:18:04
    Hello Jeff,

    Not sure if it's Sony, but I recently read about an
    outfit in Japan that is
    developing a 'nurse' robot to work in nursing homes.
    Sort of an electronic
    companion to the people there.

    Gosh, Sarah and John Connor, where are you? We need you now! :)

    Preparing for Judgement Day. The date is noted in the movie.

    Seriously, without truly understanding human emotions and needs,
    how could a robot, no matter how sophisticated, ever take the place
    of a real human being particularly someone like a nurse?

    Have you ever had sex with an inflateable doll? Well, sex with
    a robot is better. Or so I have been told. Not that I have tried
    with either an inflateable doll or a robot.

    I am also reminded of Robert Picardo's character, the holographic
    doctor in Star Trek Voyager. He's very comical, just as he tended to
    be in Stargate Atlantis.

    Having sex with a hologram might be even more fun than having
    sex with a robot.

    But anyway, my point is that there is no replacement for a human
    touch to things.

    How do you know until you have actually experienced the alternatives?
    Sex with an inflateable doll is obviously preferable for some folks.
    Sex with robots cannot be far behind. And sex with holograms is not unthinkable.

    --Lee


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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, April 06, 2009 07:59:00
    On 04/06/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Lee Lofaso: Re: Robots.

    Preparing for Judgement Day. The date is noted in the movie.


    Just curious...Have you been watching "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles"? I am an avid fan and find the show quite intriguing. As the episodes progress, they appear to be writing them so that they are in line
    with the events portrayed in the movies, including the death of Sarah Connor due to lukemia. It, along with her capture, has become a key point in recent episodes.

    Regarding sex with rubber dolls and robots, I will let someone else respond to such silliness. :)

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