• "Destruction of Israel in 11 days"

    From Steve Asher@3:800/432 to All on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 04:37:25
    Iran is again threatening to destroy Israel, according to this Google-translated article on http://www.n-tv.de/1148049.html

    God long ago revealed His intention to gather nations such as Persia
    against Israel, to destroy them. Whether this threat will result in the fulfilment of prophecies such as Ezekiel 38 & 39 is something only God
    can know, for He will choose the day and hour, not Iran and "allah".

    "And you shall come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover
    the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring you against
    my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in
    you, O Gog, before their eyes." (Ezekiel 38:16)

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    Sunday, 3 May 2009

    "Destruction in eleven days," Iran threatens Israel
    von Ulrich W. Sahm Ulrich W. Sahm

    Iran has the first mention of a specific goal the destruction of Israel announced.

    The Israeli television showed an interview with the Iranian Chief Attalah Salihi.

    He announced a "destruction of Israel within eleven days".

    The Arabia expert Oded Granot said: "Never before we have such a clear
    and open announcement of Iran belongs."

    While President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the destruction of Israel again and
    again "in broad policy goal and as announced, but never so specifically
    and with time, as it did Salihi.

    Granot not have to find out why the destruction of Israel in eleven days should happen.

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    Full article in German at N.TV.de
    http://www.n-tv.de/1148049.html

    Steve

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  • From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to Steve Asher on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 15:02:00
    On 05/05/09, Jeff Snyder quoted Steve Asher: "Destruction of Israel in
    11 days".

    Iran is again threatening to destroy Israel, according to this Google-translated article on http://www.n-tv.de/1148049.html


    Hi Steve. Personally, I would be very hesitant to totally trust the contents
    of a Google-translated article. Such translations are seriously lacking, as
    the one you posted clearly demonstrates.

    God long ago revealed His intention to gather nations such as Persia against Israel, to destroy them. Whether this threat will result in the fulfilment of prophecies such as Ezekiel 38 & 39 is something only God can know, for He will choose the day and hour, not Iran and "allah".

    "And you shall come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover
    the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring you against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in you, O Gog, before their eyes." (Ezekiel 38:16)


    Back in April of 1999 I wrote an article regarding the famous Battle of Gog
    and Magog called "Battle Of Gog And Magog And War In Yugoslavia!". After a careful study of the Scriptures, I came to the following conclusions:

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    Some of my Christian friends have recently suggested to me
    that this war might be the start of something much bigger;
    that is, they believe that it might be the catalyst for the
    long-awaited Battle of Gog and Magog. This awesome battle is
    described for us in great detail, both in Ezekiel chapters
    thirty-eight and thirty-nine, as well as more briefly in
    Revelation chapter twenty; however, as I explain in such
    articles as "From Armageddon To The New Earth", "Hell And
    The Lake Of Fire", and "The Great Tribulation And The
    Rapture", based upon my current understanding of the Holy
    Scriptures, I believe that those people who place this
    battle in our near future, may be in error. This quick,
    decisive, post-Millennial battle against the Saints, is
    described for us in the following verses:

    "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be
    loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the
    nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and
    Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom
    is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth
    of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about,
    and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of
    heaven, and devoured them."
    Revelation 20:7-9, KJV

    As you can see, these verses give us a precise timeframe for
    the Battle of Gog and Magog. They specifically state "when
    the thousand years are expired". As I point out in the
    aforementioned articles, this thousand years will not begin,
    until Jesus Christ returns in all of His Power and Glory,
    and defeats the Beast and the False Prophet at the Battle of
    Armageddon. Now, if we turn to the the thirty-eighth chapter
    of the Book of Ezekiel, where the Prophet begins to describe
    Gog and Magog, in verse eight we read the following:

    "After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years
    thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the
    sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the
    mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is
    brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell
    safely all of them."
    Ezekiel 38:8, KJV

    Please notice that just as we are told in John's Revelation
    that the famed Battle of Gog and Magog will occur "when the
    thousand years are expired", that is, when the Millennium is
    at, or at least nearing its closure, Ezekiel likewise tells
    Gog that his battle in Israel will be "in the latter years".
    While we can argue that the Latter Years, or the Last Days,
    or the Endtime, has been in effect since the time of Christ,
    which is indeed true, as I explain in such articles as "The
    Seven Heads", we cannot deny the similarities between these
    two verses. Allow me to ask you a question: If what is now
    occurring in Yugoslavia is the beginning of the Battle of
    Gog and Magog, how can we truly say that it meets Ezekiel's
    description of "in the latter years", that is, at the end of
    years, if the one-thousand-year Millennial Rule hasn't even
    occurred yet? On the other hand, if it occurs "when the
    thousand years are expired", precisely as John tells us,
    that truly would be "in the latter years"; that is, in the
    final end years of the Millennium. In comparing Scripture
    with Scripture, this definitely seems like a more reasonal
    interpretation in my opinion. It simply is not the end of
    years, or the latter years, if we still have at least
    another thousand years to go, is it?

    The only logical way to refute my interpretation, would be
    to suggest that there may actually be two different Battles
    of Gog and Magog; that is, one which occurs sometime before
    the Millennium begins, which would place it in our very near
    future, and then a second Battle of Gog and Magog a thousand
    years later near its very end. In other words, one would
    almost have to say that this theoretical first Battle of Gog
    and Magog will lead into the final Battle of Armageddon at
    which time Christ returns, or else that the Battle of Gog
    and Magog and the Battle of Armageddon are the very same
    thing, which they most certainly are not in my view. In
    short, to accept any other interpretation than the one which
    I have presented, simply creates a very confusing situation,
    and is much more difficult to prove in a Scriptural sense.
    If John tells us that the Battle of Gog and Magog occurs
    after the Millennium expires, then that is what we should
    believe.

    The truth of the matter, is that this whole idea of the
    Battle of Gog and Magog occurring soon, is based upon the
    popular interpretation of Endtime prophecy, which states
    that the Beast and the Ten Horns of the Books of Daniel and
    Revelation, is either Rome and ten European nations, or else
    Russia and ten European nations. As I explain in a variety
    of my Endtime articles, I too embraced this interpretation
    for quite a few years; however, this was based upon what I
    had been taught by others, and not upon my own personal
    study of the Scriptures. Now that I have taken the time to
    thoroughly look into this matter, as I explain in the series
    "The Seven Heads", and other articles, I am more inclined to
    believe that the Beast will be an Arab/Islamic nation and
    its leader, who will lead ten other Arab/Islamic nations, in
    their hellish war against the state of Israel. This is the
    battle which will be occurring in our near future, in my
    view; and it is not the Battle of Gog and Magog, but rather
    the Battle of Armageddon. Of course, this war will most
    likely be marked by heavy American and Russian involvement.
    For more details regarding these events, please study my
    Endtime articles. The Battle of Gog and Magog will not occur
    until some one thousand years later, after the Millennium,
    at the time of the Final Rebellion, which again, is what
    John tells us.

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    So as I note above, it seems to me that Iran may actually be involved in the Battle of Armageddon, and not necessarily in the Battle of Gog and Magog which occurs a thousand years later.

    Your thoughts?

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