• D'Bridge 3.99/SR13 addendum

    From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to All on Sunday, May 28, 2017 23:18:42
    Everyone,

    Due to recent events regarding a false-positive detection with Clam Anti-Virus, as per the FILEGATE echo I am issuing the following "official addendum".

    D'Bridge does NOT contain a virus, spyware, malware or anything which would cause apparent emotional stress or issues for someone who is technically-adept at running a Fido system... specifically a large mail or File distribution system.

    Nor should it cause any concern for someone able to understand the
    concept of a false-positive... without deleting files from said distribution system (essentially being the "nanny" protecting your system from my actions), or gleefully Netmailing the author telling him to "clean up his mess".

    The virus Clam AV claims my code has, would immediately cause a tell-tale sign of infection on a Windows computer the moment D'Bridge is installed. Specifically modifying system files and generally causing things to "not be right". Given that the false-positive has existed for quite some time, prior to SR13, and here we are May 28th 2017, I would say its safe to assume that the problem is with Clam AV, and not a "mess" that I have to "clean up".

    So the author hereby apologises that recent code updates trigger the sky to be falling for an open-source anti-virus program while every other anti-virus solution on the planet gives the okay... specifically Enterprise-grade anti-virus products.

    The author also apologises that the operator of a major mail and file distribution systme had to involve their spouse to test my executable code despite clear evidence of a false-positive, despite my logical and factual explanation, and the fact that theres no way I could EVER publish something nefarious without incurring the lifelong wrath of every single Sysop in Fidonet. Apparently believing the words and actions of someone who has been developing Fido software and tools since 1994, and running a major mail
    system of his own, using his own software, is not good enough.

    The author also apologises for hearing nothing but crickets chirping when it comes to reports of viruses or any remotely-nefarious actions caused by my doing.

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Nick Andre on Monday, May 29, 2017 08:39:51
    Hi Nick,

    On 2017-05-28 23:18:42, you wrote to All:

    Due to recent events regarding a false-positive detection with Clam Anti-Virus, as per the FILEGATE echo I am issuing the following
    "official addendum".

    D'Bridge does NOT contain a virus, spyware, malware or anything which would cause apparent emotional stress or issues for someone who is technically-adept at running a Fido system... specifically a large
    mail or File distribution system.

    I had a comparable issue with the latest release of FMail when 1 of the .exe files was marked as malware by the sourceforge system. Also a false positive. But they were quick to have it manually white-listed. Apparently it happens so often they have developped good practise to fix these issues.

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better
    publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    Sourceforge uses this system in the background to have new uploads scanned by numerous virusscanners:

    https://www.virustotal.com/

    You can use it to check your files yourself before publication, and warn your users, or try to fix it...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.7-B20170419
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Monday, May 29, 2017 07:30:07
    On 29 May 17 08:39:51, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    Sourceforge uses this system in the background to have new uploads scanned numerous virusscanners:

    https://www.virustotal.com/

    :-)

    I'm familiar with that site, it is the one I used.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Nick Andre on Monday, May 29, 2017 07:04:50
    Yo!

    You are not the one who should be apologizing. I didn't see the condemnaton of
    D'Bridge in Z1C or anywhere else, but since I no longer archive anything outside my purview, it may have been posted in a place I no longer visit or I simply missed it. In any case, whether I missed that despicable notice or not,
    I condemn it.

    Roger


    Due to recent events regarding a false-positive detection with Clam Anti-Virus, as per the FILEGATE echo I am issuing the following "official addendum".

    D'Bridge does NOT contain a virus, spyware, malware or anything
    which would cause apparent emotional stress or issues for someone
    who is technically-adept at running a Fido system... specifically a
    large mail or File distribution system.

    Nor should it cause any concern for someone able to understand the
    concept of a false-positive... without deleting files from said distribution system (essentially being the "nanny" protecting your
    system from my actions), or gleefully Netmailing the author telling
    him to "clean up his mess".

    The virus Clam AV claims my code has, would immediately cause a tell-tale sign of infection on a Windows computer the moment D'Bridge is
    installed. Specifically modifying system files and generally
    causing things to "not be right". Given that the false-positive has existed for quite some time, prior to SR13, and here we are May
    28th 2017, I would say its safe to assume that the problem is with
    Clam AV, and not a "mess" that I have to "clean up".

    So the author hereby apologises that recent code updates trigger the sky
    to be falling for an open-source anti-virus program while every
    other anti-virus solution on the planet gives the okay...
    specifically Enterprise-grade anti-virus products.

    The author also apologises that the operator of a major mail and file distribution systme had to involve their spouse to test my executable
    code despite clear evidence of a false-positive, despite my logical
    and factual explanation, and the fact that theres no way I could
    EVER publish something nefarious without incurring the lifelong
    wrath of every single Sysop in Fidonet. Apparently believing the
    words and actions of someone who has been developing Fido software
    and tools since 1994, and running a major mail system of his own,
    using his own software, is not good enough.

    The author also apologises for hearing nothing but crickets chirping when it comes to reports of viruses or any remotely-nefarious actions
    caused by my doing.

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better
    publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

    Demetrius and the Gladiators


    --- DB 3.99 + W10 (1703)
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Roger Nelson on Monday, May 29, 2017 16:14:22
    On 29 May 17 07:04:50, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    You are not the one who should be apologizing. I didn't see the condemnato of D'Bridge in Z1C or anywhere else, but since I no longer archive anything outside my purview, it may have been posted in a place I no longer visit or simply missed it. In any case, whether I missed that despicable notice or not, I condemn it.

    It was sent via Netmail.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Nick Andre on Monday, May 29, 2017 21:05:44
    Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better
    publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    My none freeware anti virus software didn't detect a problem.

    Shawn


    ... Many people think Joan of Arc was immortal, but she did in fact exist.

    --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - Oshawa, ON, CA - http://tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Nick Andre on Monday, May 29, 2017 17:31:51
    On 29 May 17 07:04:50, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    [...]
    It was sent via Netmail.

    Still, I have to wonder why any SysOp would put their eggs in one basket by using just one virus detector. Is it the be-all of all virus detectors? In all of the years I have used D'Bridge, I have not had the problem which seems to have cropped up all of a sudden in other systems not using what I use. Maybe the detractors would like to try using Malwarebytes Premium on the D'Bridge archive and see what it says.

    I was able to download DB399SRD.ZIP from the filegate this morning, so maybe that isn't a given anymore.


    Regards,

    Roger

    --- DB 3.99 + W10 (1703)
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shawn Highfield on Monday, May 29, 2017 21:12:56
    On 29 May 17 21:05:44, Shawn Highfield said the following to Nick Andre:

    Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.

    My none freeware anti virus software didn't detect a problem.

    Neither did mine.

    BinkD throws a false-positive for Avira anti-virus, a commercial product. But I don't see anyone "quarantining" the files from that project now...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Roger Nelson on Monday, May 29, 2017 21:26:20
    On 29 May 17 17:31:51, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    Still, I have to wonder why any SysOp would put their eggs in one basket by using just one virus detector. Is it the be-all of all virus detectors? I all of the years I have used D'Bridge, I have not had the problem which see to have cropped up all of a sudden in other systems not using what I use. Maybe the detractors would like to try using Malwarebytes Premium on the D'Bridge archive and see what it says.

    If people want to try to prove me wrong, they can go ahead... who am I to tell them what to do with their free time.

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by
    others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly why Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to be honest.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Roger Nelson on Monday, May 29, 2017 22:29:56
    On 29 May 17 17:31:51, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    I was able to download DB399SRD.ZIP from the filegate this morning, so mayb that isn't a given anymore.

    According to the FILEGATE echo she just figured out how to manually run a false-positive test and nothing came back. Now because she was told by Vince that IT HAS A VIRUS, I'm sure she will find it somewhere. Vince apparently knows everything... even more than Mark knows. His word was taken verbatim.

    I'm still busy trying to clean the mess and publish a CLEAN file... I think
    I need help with that, I think I'd better ask someone to do my job for me and make sure its clean before I offend anyone further.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:31:44

    In all of the years I have used D'Bridge, I have not had the
    problem which seems to have cropped up all of a sudden in other systems
    not using what I use.

    I perceive it as a personal thing towards Nick.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: People like me were created to amaze people like you (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:33:29

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by others, specifically those with their *C title.

    Ahem ? ??

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: People like me were created to amaze people like you (2:292/854)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 05:35:34
    Hello Nick!

    29 May 17 21:26, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network
    by others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly
    why Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to
    be honest.

    This is why the queen is in my twit filter. She's never said anything
    worth reading anyway, it's all nonsense. I'd have been banned long ago if
    I didn't have a HUB who did not play fidonet's stupid games either.

    Shawn


    ... God is not dead. He is alive and autographing bibles today at Waterstones --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20160201
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 05:38:06
    Hello Nick!

    29 May 17 22:29, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    I'm still busy trying to clean the mess and publish a CLEAN file... I

    Lots of great programmers in the sysop echo's who have never released anything. I'm 100% sure they could help you.

    Shawn


    ... Tolkien is hobbit-forming.
    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20160201
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com (1:229/452)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shawn Highfield on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 08:10:30
    On 30 May 17 05:35:34, Shawn Highfield said the following to Nick Andre:

    This is why the queen is in my twit filter. She's never said anything worth reading anyway, it's all nonsense. I'd have been banned long ago if I didn't have a HUB who did not play fidonet's stupid games either.

    Could be. I'm not popular with a few others because I do not honour feed-cuts.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:19:34
    Hi Ward,

    In all of the years I have used D'Bridge, I have not had the
    problem which seems to have cropped up all of a sudden in other systems
    not using what I use.

    I perceive it as a personal thing towards Nick.

    True, he is not from the U.S., he's Canadian.. OOPS my brother has lived in Canada for about 30 years and so have some of my other family members... _scratch that idea_.

    ** Really, Ward, when have I EVER said anything negative about Nick, or even his software in the past?? You won't come up with an answer on this, because you know this is not the case, and never has been. **

    Perhaps the reason for this whole ridiculous discussion is that Nick's feelings
    were hurt when I contacted him about his latest release because one of the FileGate HUBs had a problem with Nick's release. Sorry to damage your ego Nick, as I obviously did.

    The full story of that HUB is that this HUB's software, MBSE, will not toss software that Nick released as distributed because if fails a virus test that MBSE's internal virus checker uses, which happens to be ClamAv IIRC. Yes, when brought to my attention by this HUB in the UK who runs MBSE, I checked the other files released by Nick and saw other files in the past had the same problem. And Yes, I asked Nick to send a new release that would pass all virus scanning tools.

    In the midst of hurried Memorial Day Weekend celebrations and preparations I also admit I sent Netmail to the HUB and cc'd Nick saying I'd ask Nick to "Clean up this mess". Oh well. You may all continue your slamming of Fidonet people here.

    We all know this whole situation was brought on by a false positive for virus with Nick's files, and I guess there is nothing he can do to change that false positive? Meanwhile, when Ben stated he'd contacted ClamAV.Net regarding these
    files as false-positives, the shit in here turned to Ben...because he'd rather wait for confirmation from ClamAV.Net before putting Nick's file on his system... unreal.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 07:17:41

    In all of the years I have used D'Bridge, I have not had the
    problem which seems to have cropped up all of a sudden in other
    systems not using what I use.

    I perceive it as a personal thing towards Nick.

    That is my initial reaction also, but I'll wait just a little longer to see how
    this plays out amongst our colleagues. The Clam AV should clam up in the meantime because I'd trust anything coming from Nick's system before I'd place blind trust in something I haven't heard about till now.


    Regards,

    Roger

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 07:25:32

    On 29 May 17 17:31:51, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    [...]

    According to the FILEGATE echo she just figured out how to manually run a false-positive test and nothing came back. Now because she was told by Vince that IT HAS A VIRUS, I'm sure she will find it somewhere. Vince apparently knows everything... even more than Mark knows. His word was taken verbatim.

    A DOS program with a virus? Who knows how to do that anymore? Vince?

    I'm still busy trying to clean the mess and publish a CLEAN file... I
    think I need help with that, I think I'd better ask someone to do my job for me and make sure its clean before I offend anyone further.

    I'd go grab a beer instead. I'd really like to see the faces of anyone who has
    seen the D'Bridge code. (-:


    Regards,

    Roger

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 07:33:50

    On 29 May 17 17:31:51, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    [...]

    A peerson can take one look at you or anyone else and decide they don't like you or any of the other persons. It's a defect in the human persona.

    If people want to try to prove me wrong, they can go ahead... who am I NA>
    to tell them what to do with their free time.

    No one can tell another what to do, but they are still entitled to their opinion, however wrong it may be.

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly why
    Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to be
    honest.

    I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, but they did do the same thing to Chris.


    Regards,

    Roger

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 07:36:12

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network WD>NA> by others, specifically those with their *C title.

    Ahem ? ??

    I'm quite sure he doesn't mean you or me. (-:


    Regards,

    Roger

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna (1:3828/7)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 13:32:36
    Hi Roger,

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by
    others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly why
    Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to be
    honest.

    I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, but they did do the same thing to Chris

    Chris who? And what was done that caused him to leave? I sure haven't heard the story.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Janis Kracht on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 13:38:02
    On Tue May-30-2017 13:32, Janis Kracht (1:261/38) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by
    others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly why
    Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to be
    honest.

    I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, but they did do the same thing
    to Chris

    Chris who? And what was done that caused him to leave? I sure
    haven't heard the story.

    Chris Irwin.


    Regards,

    Roger
    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Janis Kracht on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 14:00:11
    On Tue May-30-2017 12:19, Janis Kracht (1:261/38) wrote to Ward Dossche:

    Hi Ward,

    [...]

    In the midst of hurried Memorial Day Weekend celebrations and
    preparations I also admit I sent Netmail to the HUB and cc'd Nick
    saying I'd ask Nick to "Clean up this mess". Oh well. You may
    all continue your slamming of Fidonet people here.

    Nick is part of Fidonet.

    We all know this whole situation was brought on by a false positive
    for virus with Nick's files, and I guess there is nothing he can do
    to change that false positive? Meanwhile, when Ben stated he'd
    contacted ClamAV.Net regarding these files as false-positives, the
    shit in here turned to Ben...because he'd rather wait for
    confirmation from ClamAV.Net before putting Nick's file on his
    system... unreal.

    That language is not allowed here. If you must use expletives, please use them
    in NETmail to the recipient.


    Regards,

    Roger
    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Janis Kracht on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 14:58:51
    On 30 May 17 12:19:34, Janis Kracht said the following to Ward Dossche:

    The full story of that HUB is that this HUB's software, MBSE, will not toss software that Nick released as distributed because if fails a virus test th MBSE's internal virus checker uses, which happens to be ClamAv IIRC. Yes, brought to my attention by this HUB in the UK who runs MBSE, I checked the other files released by Nick and saw other files in the past had the same problem. And Yes, I asked Nick to send a new release that would pass all vi scanning tools.

    You assume it had a virus because VINCE told you so, taking his word over mine... I'm the author. Its my code. It comes straight from my system.

    Do you really think I would publish something that has a virus, knowing full well what would happen to not only the users but to naysayers having their day crucifying me on the cross over it. That is why I asked if you really think I would let that happen and if you think I'm that stupid.

    Again - Why is it that BinkD fails the Avira test on virustotal.com and its okay to have those on your system, Wilfred's Fmail tosser failed a virus check at one time, no flack given to him, but mine for some reason irks your chain.

    What does it say about Clam AV that many Enterprise-grade security software passes my files with flying colors but that precious little program cannot?

    This is not an ego-thing. This is a common sense thing. You chose not to deal with the publisher, you chose to rely on someone else that IT HAS A VIRUS.

    Only when ***I** pointed this out to you did you change your tune. You did not use common sense as a system administrator of a major mail system.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 14:59:34
    On 30 May 17 07:33:50, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    This isn't the first time I've been treated this way in this network by others, specifically those with their *C title. I see very clearly why
    Fido developers have come and gone and I'm ready to join them to be
    honest.

    I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, but they did do the same thing to Ch

    I talked to Chris recently on the phone... he's doing good, seemed surprised that I'm still looking after this silly program.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 15:18:58
    On 30 May 17 07:25:32, Roger Nelson said the following to Nick Andre:

    I'd go grab a beer instead. I'd really like to see the faces of anyone who has seen the D'Bridge code. (-:

    A simple DOS batch file calls the compiler a few times to read the many different source files to build the final EXE file.

    The compiler has a date/time stamp of May 2nd, 1989. The CRC of the compiler has never changed since then either. The compiler only makes DOS code. It doesn't even know what Windows is other than some fancy thing Microsoft is beta-testing.

    So... it is impossible for a virus - let alone a Windows virus - to be injected at any point in time into that file.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 22:04:42

    The Clam AV should clam
    up in the meantime because I'd trust anything coming from Nick's system before I'd place blind trust in something I haven't heard about till now.

    Same here ... I trust Nick blindfolded and never heard about Clam until 2-3 days ago.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: People like me were created to amaze people like you (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 22:08:27

    I talked to Chris recently on the phone... he's doing good, seemed surprised that I'm still looking after this silly program.

    I've got him on Facebook.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: People like me were created to amaze people like you (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 16:46:19
    On 30 May 17 22:08:27, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

    I talked to Chris recently on the phone... he's doing good, seemed surprised that I'm still looking after this silly program.

    I've got him on Facebook.

    I'm afraid I'm not on that...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 09:53:40

    I talked to Chris recently on the phone... he's doing good, seemed NA>NA> surprised that I'm still looking after this silly program.

    I've got him on Facebook.

    I'm afraid I'm not on that...

    Are you afraid or is it more of a relief?

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: People like me were created to amaze people like you (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 07:45:27
    On 31 May 17 09:53:40, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

    I talked to Chris recently on the phone... he's doing good, seemed NA>NA> surprised that I'm still looking after this silly program.

    I've got him on Facebook.

    I'm afraid I'm not on that...

    Are you afraid or is it more of a relief?

    A bit of both... just like sitting on the toilet sometimes.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Nick Andre on Thursday, June 01, 2017 13:26:06
    On 05/31/17, Nick Andre pondered and said...

    Are you afraid or is it more of a relief?

    A bit of both... just like sitting on the toilet sometimes.

    I'm going to my happy place now... la la la :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A33 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Hayton on Thursday, June 01, 2017 08:11:31
    A bit of both... just like sitting on the toilet sometimes.

    I'm going to my happy place now... la la la :)

    AAAHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh....

    As we are on the subject, did you hear that when Melania Trump visited the Magritte museum in Brussels last week (that's a surrealistic painter, quite fitting), her staff visited the bathroom 9 times prior. The "thing" had to be alligned different so plumbers were sent in and she required special triple layered scented pink toilet paper ... all to please the FLOTUS sensitive parts...

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, June 01, 2017 19:22:10
    On 06/01/17, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

    As we are on the subject, did you hear that when Melania Trump visited
    the Magritte museum in Brussels last week (that's a surrealistic
    painter, quite fitting), her staff visited the bathroom 9 times prior.
    The "thing" had to be alligned different so plumbers were sent in and
    she required special triple layered scented pink toilet paper ... all to please the FLOTUS sensitive parts...

    We're clearly reading different sorts of daily news you and I :)

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Hayton on Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:39:20
    As we are on the subject, did you hear that when Melania Trump visited PH>WD> the Magritte museum in Brussels last week (that's a surrealistic
    painter, quite fitting), her staff visited the bathroom 9 times prior. PH>WD> The "thing" had to be alligned different so plumbers were sent in
    and she required special triple layered scented pink toilet paper ... PH>WD> all to please the FLOTUS sensitive parts...

    We're clearly reading different sorts of daily news you and I :)

    Actually, I was quoting verbatim the curator of the museum, not a news outlet.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, June 01, 2017 06:37:47
    On 01 Jun 17 08:11:31, Ward Dossche said the following to Paul Hayton:

    As we are on the subject, did you hear that when Melania Trump visited the Magritte museum in Brussels last week (that's a surrealistic painter, quite fitting), her staff visited the bathroom 9 times prior. The "thing" had to alligned different so plumbers were sent in and she required special triple layered scented pink toilet paper ... all to please the FLOTUS sensitive parts...

    Scented toilet paper is not good for hemerrhoids.

    Nick

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Thursday, June 01, 2017 15:18:00
    Scented toilet paper is not good for hemerrhoids.

    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:41:39
    On 01 Jun 17 15:18:00, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

    Scented toilet paper is not good for hemerrhoids.

    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?

    Ha! Mine is shifting into overdrive.

    Nick

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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to dbridge on Thursday, June 01, 2017 07:28:11
    On 6/1/2017 8:18 AM, Ward Dossche (2:292/854) wrote:
    Scented toilet paper is not good for hemerrhoids.

    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?
    What some people call a Ford, a PITA to work on. (From my
    brother-in-law, the mechanic)


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Ray Quinn on Thursday, June 01, 2017 20:20:08

    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?
    What some people call a Ford, a PITA to work on. (From my
    brother-in-law, the mechanic)

    I do own a Ford F150 in the USA. Great vehicle.

    It leaks some oil, but I consider that a perk. 8-)

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  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/22 to dbridge on Thursday, June 01, 2017 13:39:11
    On 6/1/2017 1:20 PM, Ward Dossche (2:292/854) wrote:
    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?
    What some people call a Ford, a PITA to work on. (From my
    brother-in-law, the mechanic)

    I do own a Ford F150 in the USA. Great vehicle.

    It leaks some oil, but I consider that a perk. 8-)

    My 1992 Chevy with nearly 400,000 miles leaks, too. This means I am
    constantly changing oil. ;-) I only need to change the filters every so
    often.

    Topical message follows: I did download the latest D'Bridge. No sign of
    a virus. Anxiously awaiting v4.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Ray Quinn on Thursday, June 01, 2017 23:33:51

    My 1992 Chevy with nearly 400,000 miles leaks, too. This means I am constantly changing oil. ;-) I only need to change the filters every so often.

    Last time I went to Jiffy Lube they told me "Sir, that pickup leaks from every opening" where-upon I answered them "When you will have had the life of that truck, you will also leak from every bodily orifice".

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Nick Andre on Friday, June 02, 2017 09:54:07
    On 06/01/17, Nick Andre pondered and said...

    What's a hemerrhoid? An automobile?

    Ha! Mine is shifting into overdrive.

    Just to bring things back on topic... this wouldn't be a proper thread
    without mentioning beer :)

    Speights is good IMHO... it may be brewed in my city also :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From Matthew Munson@1:218/109 to Nick Andre on Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:40:00
    Thank you. I welcome any comments or suggestions to help me better publish products that will not cause turmoil or anguish.
    BBSing products usually generate false positives such as NetFossil where
    the Microsoft AV automatically sends the file to the quarantine :(

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