Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I have to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?


Richard


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Re: TWGS question
By: Richard Vonzel to All on Sat May 13 2023 11:28 am

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I have to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

I (and I think many others) have the same problem. The registry key disappears (often) when rebooting. I saved the registry key (using regedit.exe likely) and just restore that when needed. It's a pain in the ass and a pretty huge bug in this commercial software.
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I (and I think many others) have the same problem. The registry key disappears (often) when rebooting. I saved the registry key (using regedit.exe likely) and just restore that when needed. It's a pain in
the ass and a pretty huge bug in this commercial software.

Thank you, thought I was going crazy.

Richard

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To: Rob Swindell
Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Richard Vonzel on Sat May 13 2023 12:47 pm

Re: TWGS question
By: Richard Vonzel to All on Sat May 13 2023 11:28 am

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I

have
to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

I (and I think many others) have the same problem. The registry key disappears (often) when rebooting. I saved the registry key (using regedit.exe likely) and just restore that when needed. It's a pain in the ass and a pretty huge bug in this commercial software.

here's a link to his contact info.
he still makes money on registrations so he should fix it. i looked for a couple of mins on their forums and dont see any topics about settings resetting.

http://eisonline.classictw.com/contact/

Re: TWGS question
By: Jas Hud to Rob Swindell on Sat May 13 2023 03:40 pm

To: Rob Swindell
Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Richard Vonzel on Sat May 13 2023 12:47 pm

Re: TWGS question
By: Richard Vonzel to All on Sat May 13 2023 11:28 am

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I

have
to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

I (and I think many others) have the same problem. The registry key disappears (often) when rebooting. I saved the registry key (using regedit.exe likely) and just restore that when needed. It's a pain in the ass and a pretty huge bug in this commercial software.

here's a link to his contact info.
he still makes money on registrations so he should fix it. i looked for a couple of mins on their forums and dont see any topics about settings resetting.

http://eisonline.classictw.com/contact/

I just sent email to John describing the issue. I assume he already knew of the problem since many TWGS players seem to be aware of it. I also found it mentioned on the linked support forum as well (back 2016):
http://www.classictw.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=34975&p=248112

The last release was over 10 years ago, so not holding out much hope for a fix any time soon. :-(
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To: Rob Swindell
Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Jas Hud on Sat May 13 2023 03:42 pm

the problem since many TWGS players seem to be aware of it. I also found it mentioned on the linked support forum as well (back 2016): http://www.classictw.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=34975&p=248112

The last release was over 10 years ago, so not holding out much hope for a fix any time soon. :-(

well at that point i would just run the dos version locally and then do a telegate out to some popular servers.

i'm not a fan of the game personally and when i had some big players on datastream and on my bbs they'd be playing the game with scripts and essentially botting the whole thing.

BY: Jas Hud (1:103/705)

i'm not a fan of the game personally and when i had some big players on datastream and on my bbs they'd be playing the game with scripts and essentially botting the whole thing.

I see alot of that kind of thing on my server as well. Nothings really changed.


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Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Jas Hud on Sat May 13 2023 03:42 pm

Re: TWGS question
By: Jas Hud to Rob Swindell on Sat May 13 2023 03:40 pm

To: Rob Swindell
Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Richard Vonzel on Sat May 13 2023 12:47 pm

Re: TWGS question
By: Richard Vonzel to All on Sat May 13 2023 11:28 am

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I

have
to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

I (and I think many others) have the same problem. The registry key disappears (often) when rebooting. I saved the registry key (using regedit.exe likely) and just restore that when needed. It's a pain in the ass and a pretty huge bug in this commercial software.

here's a link to his contact info.
he still makes money on registrations so he should fix it. i looked for a couple of mins on their forums and dont see any topics about settings resetting.

http://eisonline.classictw.com/contact/

I just sent email to John describing the issue. I assume he already knew of the problem since many TWGS players seem to be aware of it. I also found it mentioned on the linked support forum as well (back 2016): http://www.classictw.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=34975&p=248112

The last release was over 10 years ago, so not holding out much hope for a fix any time soon. :-(

This is the response I received from John:

Yes, I have seen this issue. It has to do with changes in Windows to
deal with security. But I run TWGS on Windows 10 without this issue.
The main fix seems to be to make sure that TWGS has full administrative
rights. This is the key to whether or not it can write permanent
registry entries.

For a future fix, I am planning a new TWGS version that will remove all dependence on the registry. I will instead implement it so that it
doesn't require an install, you can just save it into a directory and
run it and it will be fully self-contained. That will hopefully
future-proof it against these kinds of Windows changes moving forward.
I'm not sure when I'll be able to put out a new version, however, as I'm
very busy with other projects.
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To: Rob Swindell
Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Jas Hud on Sun May 14 2023 04:25 pm

For a future fix, I am planning a new TWGS version that will remove all dependence on the registry. I will instead implement it so that it
doesn't require an install, you can just save it into a directory and
run it and it will be fully self-contained. That will hopefully

it should have been like that from the beginning.

future-proof it against these kinds of Windows changes moving forward.
I'm not sure when I'll be able to put out a new version, however, as I'm very busy with other projects.

translation: doesn't have a programmer for it.

On 13 May 2023, Richard Vonzel said the following...

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I have to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

Same here, but it's not everyday. But randomly my games are simply gone and I have to re-create them.

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To: Gary Ailes
Re: Re: TWGS question
By: Gary Ailes to Richard Vonzel on Mon May 15 2023 01:27 pm

On 13 May 2023, Richard Vonzel said the following...

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I have to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

Same here, but it's not everyday. But randomly my games are simply gone and I have to re-create them.

so is there any real benefit to using twgs instead of the old bbs doorgame

Re: Re: TWGS question
By: Gary Ailes to Richard Vonzel on Mon May 15 2023 01:27 pm

On 13 May 2023, Richard Vonzel said the following...

Everyday the games in my TradeWars Game Server seem to disappear. I have to create the games over all the time. Is there a reason that they don't stay created?

Same here, but it's not everyday. But randomly my games are simply gone and I have to re-create them.

For me, it seems to correspond with reboots (or maybe Windows updates, which requires a reboot).
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To: Rob Swindell
Re: Re: TWGS question
By: Rob Swindell to Gary Ailes on Mon May 15 2023 06:10 pm

For me, it seems to correspond with reboots (or maybe Windows updates,

which
requires a reboot).

it's probably windows updates. i've had that happen with other things in the past. i just did an update yesterday and it cleared my mirc settings in the registry even though the .ini was fine. i'm running an old copy of mirc for my shoutcast bot.

i also have custom commands for files i made an imported into the registry. those are gone. happened in the past with some big updates, too.