• Retro gaming

    From Nightfox@DIGDIST to All on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 09:14:45
    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I really started getting into retro gaming when I first saw emulators appearing in the late 90s. I thought it was really cool that there were emulators that allowed playing NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, and other console games on my PC. Some emulators also had some fairly interesting features, such as allowing multi-player gaming with other people over the internet.

    Although I have typically been more into PC gaming, I do enjoy console games. And for a while now, it seems there are many ways to emulate old systems, beyond emulation on a PC. A few years ago, I modded my Nintendo Wii and installed some emulators on it (though life got into the way, I got busy, and I haven't played the emulators on that as much as I thought I would). Before that, I bought a GCW Zero (an open-source handheld gaming system that supports emulators, among other things). Unfortunately, it seems the screen on my GCW Zero has failed and doesn't work well now. :/

    In recent years, there's also the Classic Mini systems that the popular game companies have released; there was the NES Classic Mini & SNES Classic Mini from Nintendo, and then Sega, Sony, and TurboGrafX made their own versions for their respective systems. Those are generally moddable too, so you can add additional games.

    Although I've been emulating old consoles for a while, sometimes I've missed having a real console. A long time ago, I had an original NES, a Nintendo 64, and a TurboGrafX-16. For a while, a SNES as well. I just bought a SNES on eBay.. I'm not sure what all I'll do with it, since I can play the games with emulators, but it might be fun.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Geo@DUNGEON to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:14:08
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 14 2021 09:14:45

    Yes to some degree I am as well, although I must admit its more about the retro computers than the consoles for me.

    8-)


    Who else is into retro gaming?


    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Dungeon BBS - Risen from the Ashes! - Canberra, Australia. http://bbs.barnab
  • From Ksource@MUTINY to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 00:41:04
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 14 2021 09:14:45

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I really started getting into retro gaming when I first saw emulators appearing in the late 90s. I thought it was really cool that there were emulators that allowed playing NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, and other console games on my PC. Some emulators also had some fairly interesting features, such as allowing multi-player gaming with other people over the internet.

    I don't know that I'm "into" retro gaming so much as my taste in games just never advanced beyond a certain era. In 1995, I was playing games released in 1995. In 2005, I was playing games released in 1995. In 2015, I was playing games released in 1995.

    I don't have time these days to play games (kids, you know), but when I do, I'm sure it'll be the same old games.

    I grew up with PC games, so all the games I play are PC games usually, but I did get into console emulators about 10 or 15 years ago. When I was a kid, the consoles really were black boxes, much moreso than PCs, so they held a bit of mystery for me. Now in the emulator we can see precisely how everything was specced out, and it's kind of cool to peer inside the box a little.

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consoles (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Mutiny BBS - mutinybbs.com - telnet:2332 - ssh:2232
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 07:43:00
    Nightfox wrote to All <=-

    Although I've been emulating old consoles for a while, sometimes I've missed having a real console. A long time ago, I had an original NES,
    a Nintendo 64, and a TurboGrafX-16. For a while, a SNES as well. I
    just bought a SNES on eBay.. I'm not sure what all I'll do with it,
    since I can play the games with emulators, but it might be fun.

    It would be worth hooking the SNES up to an original CRT TV. There is an experience you get with the old TVs that modern PC screens struggle to emulate. RetroRGB is a pretty good site looking at how to get the best signal from consoles if you want to look into stuff like that - enjoy!

    Ned

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Arelor@PALANT to Ksource on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 09:05:59
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Ksource to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 12:41 am

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more
    difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consol
    (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.


    What tools are you using to edit the games? Hacking propietay games is very popular but I have never
    taken the time to check how people is doing it in the wild.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 08:25:32
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 14 2021 09:14 am

    In recent years, there's also the Classic Mini systems that the popular game companies have released; there was the NES Classic Mini & SNES Classic Mini from Nintendo, and then Sega, Sony, and TurboGrafX made their own versions for their respective systems. Those are generally moddable too, so you can add additional games.

    I just set up retro pi with my son the other day and got him a C64 Mini for his birthday. Next step is he wants to write some stuff in his emulator and then transfer it to the C64 mini. Not sure how far we will get in that effort, but we've been having fun.

    I also got a cheap arcade stick and button kit from Amazon and we hooked that up to Epic Pinball from the 90's. Definitely a lot of fun.

    ---TLM

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to Ksource on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 08:28:57
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Ksource to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 12:41 am

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consoles (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    Have you seen this? NHL '94 is still pretty popular and they are constantly modding it with new rosters, graphics, etc - https://www.nhl94.com/

    ---TLM

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Ksource on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 08:38:05
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Ksource to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 12:41 am

    I don't know that I'm "into" retro gaming so much as my taste in games just never advanced beyond a certain era. In 1995, I was playing games released in 1995. In 2005, I was playing games released in 1995. In 2015, I was playing games released in 1995.

    Yeah, I think one of the reasons I like retro gaming is because I grew up in that time and enjoyed the games available then.

    I grew up with PC games, so all the games I play are PC games usually, but I did get into console emulators about 10 or 15 years ago. When I was a kid, the consoles really were black boxes, much moreso than PCs, so they held a bit of mystery for me. Now in the emulator we can see precisely how everything was specced out, and it's kind of cool to peer inside the box a little.

    Yeah, it's interesting. And I tended to play PC games too. I had a few consoles when I was growing up, but as expensive as they & the games were, I didn't have a big collection of console games. One of the consoles I did have was a TurboGrafX-16, which I bought new for $30 in 1993 at a store that was selling them cheap to get rid of them. And I sometimes found used TurboGrafX games at pawn shops & such. I don't see a whole lot of old games at pawn shops anymore.. And the other day I stopped at a retro game store in my area - They had a bunch of NES, SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, etc., but I don't recall seeing any TurboGrafX stuff in there..

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consoles (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    That's cool :)
    That sounds similar to the Game Genie, though the Game Genie helped make games easier.. :P

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Mr Ned on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 08:43:21
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Mr Ned to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 07:43 am

    It would be worth hooking the SNES up to an original CRT TV. There is an experience you get with the old TVs that modern PC screens struggle to emulate. RetroRGB is a pretty good site looking at how to get the best signal from consoles if you want to look into stuff like that - enjoy!

    I enjoyed console games back in the day, but I can't really think of anything I miss about playing the games on a CRT vs. newer screens. I might give it a try again some time.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Geo on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 09:05:02
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Geo to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 10:14 am

    Yes to some degree I am as well, although I must admit its more about the retro computers than the consoles for me.

    I like retro computer stuff as well. For a while now, I've been watching Clint Basinger's LGR videos on YouTube - His LGR videos are all about retro computers and the hardware and software from the 80s and 90s. It takes me back to those days.. He has some cool retro computer setups. I feel like I don't really want to invest too much time and money collecting retro stuff, but I enjoy watching his videos. His enthusiasm for retro computers is pretty much what I felt for computer technology growing up in the 80s and 90s.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Boraxman@MSRDBBS to Ksource on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 21:22:00
    Ksource wrote to Nightfox <=-

    @MSGID: <61417960.722.dove-hobby@mutinybbs.com>
    @REPLY: <6140CA75.2287.dove_dove-hob@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue
    Sep 14 2021 09:14:45

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I really started getting into retro gaming when I first saw emulators appearing in the late 90s. I thought it was really cool that there were emulators that allowed playing NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, and other console games on my PC. Some emulators also had some fairly interesting features, such as allowing multi-player gaming with other people over the internet.

    I don't know that I'm "into" retro gaming so much as my taste in games just never advanced beyond a certain era. In 1995, I was playing games released in 1995. In 2005, I was playing games released in 1995. In
    2015, I was playing games released in 1995.

    I don't have time these days to play games (kids, you know), but when I do, I'm sure it'll be the same old games.

    I grew up with PC games, so all the games I play are PC games usually,
    but I did get into console emulators about 10 or 15 years ago. When I
    was a kid, the consoles really were black boxes, much moreso than PCs,
    so they held a bit of mystery for me. Now in the emulator we can see precisely how everything was specced out, and it's kind of cool to peer inside the box a little.

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more difficult. I could have never dreamed
    of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consoles (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    Similar story with me. I still play a lot of games from the mid 90, a few from the late 90's and a rare few from the 2000's. Perhaps I'm stuck in my ways, with the PC's I had in that era, but I don't find much appealing in newer games, apart from better graphics. I find myself playing new levels for classic Doom or Quake, than new FPSs. Even the computer I use now, is using a 90's era graphical environment (FVWM).

    I don't consider it 'retro' gaming. It is just for me, gaming.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:46:59
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Ksource on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:38 am

    That's cool :)
    That sounds similar to the Game Genie, though the Game Genie helped make games easier.. :P


    game genie was just fun to tinker with. i used to make some of my games do some weird things by experimenting and making up my own codes.
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Arelor@PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 13:05:38
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Mr Ned on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:43 am

    I enjoyed console games back in the day, but I can't really think of anythin miss about playing the games on a CRT vs. newer screens. I might give it a again some time.

    Nightfox

    I did some testing with friends some years ago. There is certainly a big difference when playing a Nintendo 64. The image looks more jerky on a modern display than on a traditional one. It is definetively noticeable and not something only a graphicsfag will complain about.

    I have heard there is an actual, knwon reason, but I don't recall which it was.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Arelor on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:46:28
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 01:05 pm

    I enjoyed console games back in the day, but I can't really think of
    anythin miss about playing the games on a CRT vs. newer screens. I
    might give it a again some time.

    I did some testing with friends some years ago. There is certainly a big difference when playing a Nintendo 64. The image looks more jerky on a modern display than on a traditional one. It is definetively noticeable and not something only a graphicsfag will complain about.

    I have heard there is an actual, knwon reason, but I don't recall which it was.

    I used to have a Nintendo 64 in the 90s. I've since played some N64 games on emulators. I remember N64 looking fairly nice on a CRT, but I didn't feel like it really looked worse on a modern screen.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Arelor@PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 15:46:54
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Sep 15 2021 11:46 am

    I used to have a Nintendo 64 in the 90s. I've since played some N64 games o emulators. I remember N64 looking fairly nice on a CRT, but I didn't feel l it really looked worse on a modern screen.

    Nightfox

    I don't mean playing an emulated game on a modern screen. I mean playing a real game running on a real Nintendo 64 using a modern screen.

    But then a friend of mine said he tested with an emulator and said it didn't work great there either. I haven't seen that myself, though.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Geo@DUNGEON to The Lizard Master on Thursday, September 16, 2021 09:51:22
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:25:32

    Hi,

    I just set up retro pi with my son the other day and got him a C64 Mini for his birthday. Next step is he wants to write some
    stuff in his emulator and then transfer it to the C64 mini. Not sure how far we will get in that effort, but we've been having
    fun.


    There are some Great IDE's around for writing stuff on Windows then transfering it to Emu/Real Machine.

    ie CBM Prg Studio etc.

    8-)

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Dungeon BBS - Risen from the Ashes! - Canberra, Australia. http://bbs.barnab
  • From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to Geo on Thursday, September 16, 2021 09:11:58
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Geo to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 16 2021 09:51 am

    There are some Great IDE's around for writing stuff on Windows then transfering it to Emu/Real Machine.

    ie CBM Prg Studio etc.

    Thanks! I ran across this and was freaking floored. Especially because even though it's been 25 years since I've programmed in Pascal I miss it. So I think we are going to have some fun - https://lemonspawn.com/turbo-rascal-syntax-error-expected-but-begin/

    ---TLM

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 16, 2021 23:09:00
    Nightfox wrote to Geo <=-

    I like retro computer stuff as well. For a while now, I've been
    watching Clint Basinger's LGR videos on YouTube - His LGR videos are
    all about retro computers and the hardware and software from the 80s
    and 90s. It takes me back to those days.. He has some cool retro computer setups. I feel like I don't really want to invest too much
    time and money collecting retro stuff, but I enjoy watching his videos.
    His enthusiasm for retro computers is pretty much what I felt for computer technology growing up in the 80s and 90s.

    Helps he's very funny while he does it - I love those videos. Extremely
    jealous of the freebies he receives...

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 16, 2021 23:10:00
    Nightfox wrote to Mr Ned <=-

    It would be worth hooking the SNES up to an original CRT TV. There is an experience you get with the old TVs that modern PC screens struggle to emulate. RetroRGB is a pretty good site looking at how to get the best signal from consoles if you want to look into stuff like that - enjoy!

    I enjoyed console games back in the day, but I can't really think of anything I miss about playing the games on a CRT vs. newer screens. I might give it a try again some time.

    In any case there's plenty of quality games on SNES which hold up today, more than the Genesis/Mega Drive I think.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Geo@DUNGEON to The Lizard Master on Friday, September 17, 2021 09:28:25
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: The Lizard Master to Geo on Thu Sep 16 2021 09:11:58

    Hiya


    Thanks! I ran across this and was freaking floored. Especially because even though it's been 25 years since I've programmed in
    Pascal I miss it. So I think we are going to have some fun - https://lemonspawn.com/turbo-rascal-syntax-error-expected-but-begin/

    Yeah thats a great one too. I was also doing Pascal back in my UNI days. So TRSEEBB is a great system. 8-)

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Dungeon BBS - Risen from the Ashes! - Canberra, Australia. http://bbs.barnab
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Mr Ned on Thursday, September 16, 2021 20:17:16
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Mr Ned to Nightfox on Thu Sep 16 2021 11:10 pm

    In any case there's plenty of quality games on SNES which hold up today, more than the Genesis/Mega Drive I think.

    So it seems. I've also read that hardware-wise, the only real advantage the Genesis had over the SNES was a higher CPU clock speed. Otherwise, the SNES had better technical specs in other areas.

    One thing I think was interesting about cartridge-based consoles was that cartridges allowed game developers to include additional processor chips inside their game cartridges if they wanted. I heard Starfox had a processor chip in its cartridge that was some sort of graphics processor, which helped with the 3D graphics in the game. I think I heard F-Zero used it too.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Ksource@MUTINY to Arelor on Thursday, September 16, 2021 20:25:52
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Arelor to Ksource on Wed Sep 15 2021 09:05:59

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more
    difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consol
    (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    What tools are you using to edit the games? Hacking propietay games is very popular but I have never
    taken the time to check how people is doing it in the wild.

    I never got so far as changing the code, just changing memory (variables). Whatever emulator I was using allowed you to change values directly in memory.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Mutiny BBS - mutinybbs.com - telnet:2332 - ssh:2232
  • From Ksource@MUTINY to The Lizard Master on Thursday, September 16, 2021 20:27:00
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: The Lizard Master to Ksource on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:28:57

    I once took one of my old favourite SNES games (NHL '94) and started tinkering with it to make it more difficult. I could have never dreamed of doing something like that in 1995 when the tooling for consoles (cartridges!!) was far beyond what mere peasants could tinker with.

    Have you seen this? NHL '94 is still pretty popular and they are constantly modding it with new rosters, graphics, etc - https://www.nhl94.com/

    That is so cool! I hadn't heard of it before. I'm not surprised, though. NHL 94 was definitely the best game in the NHL series, at least going into the 2000s, and I know I'm not alone in thinking that.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Mutiny BBS - mutinybbs.com - telnet:2332 - ssh:2232
  • From Arelor@PALANT to Ksource on Friday, September 17, 2021 03:01:57
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Ksource to Arelor on Thu Sep 16 2021 08:25 pm


    What tools are you using to edit the games? Hacking propietay games is ve popular but I have never
    taken the time to check how people is doing it in the wild.

    I never got so far as changing the code, just changing memory (variables). Whatever emulator I was using allowed you to change values directly in memor


    I see.

    For a moment I thought you were producing your own hacked ROMs from cartridges or other ROMs.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Friday, September 17, 2021 11:48:00
    Nightfox wrote to Mr Ned <=-

    One thing I think was interesting about cartridge-based consoles was
    that cartridges allowed game developers to include additional processor chips inside their game cartridges if they wanted. I heard Starfox had
    a processor chip in its cartridge that was some sort of graphics processor, which helped with the 3D graphics in the game. I think I
    heard F-Zero used it too.

    Yeah there was loads of that going on with the SNES, especially in the
    later years of the scene where Nintendo was a little behind Sony and
    Sega in having a next generation console available for purchase. Yoshi's Island is a good example. It didn't happen so much with the Genesis but
    Sega was pushing its 32X addon which didn't work out for them.

    MN

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Mr Ned on Friday, September 17, 2021 08:45:49
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Mr Ned to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 2021 11:48 am

    Yeah there was loads of that going on with the SNES, especially in the later years of the scene where Nintendo was a little behind Sony and
    Sega in having a next generation console available for purchase. Yoshi's Island is a good example. It didn't happen so much with the Genesis but Sega was pushing its 32X addon which didn't work out for them.

    Nintendo, behind? In the 90s, I thought their Nintendo 64 was really good. I thought the N64's graphics were better than the Playstation (I always thought Playstation's graphics looked blocky), and the Playstation seemed to suffer from slow load times due to using CD-ROM games rather than cartridge games. The N64 also had a 64-bit processor whereas the others were using a 32-bit processor, I believe - though maybe that didn't really offer much..

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Arelor@PALANT to Nightfox on Friday, September 17, 2021 18:14:15
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Mr Ned on Fri Sep 17 2021 08:45 am

    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Mr Ned to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 2021 11:48 am

    Yeah there was loads of that going on with the SNES, especially in the later years of the scene where Nintendo was a little behind Sony and Sega in having a next generation console available for purchase. Yoshi' Island is a good example. It didn't happen so much with the Genesis but Sega was pushing its 32X addon which didn't work out for them.

    Nintendo, behind? In the 90s, I thought their Nintendo 64 was really good. thought the N64's graphics were better than the Playstation (I always though Playstation's graphics looked blocky), and the Playstation seemed to suffer from slow load times due to using CD-ROM games rather than cartridge games. The N64 also had a 64-bit processor whereas the others were using a 32-bit processor, I believe - though maybe that didn't really offer much..

    Nightfox


    Nintendo 64 could have been the most advanced system of its generation, but their architecture was so weird the games mostly failed to make the most out of it.

    Sony's Play Station had worse load times because optical media is slower, but on the other hand they could pack more material in a CD than Nintendo could in a cartridge back then. This is obvious when you compare the Nintendo 64 port of some game against the Playstation one. Rayman 2, for example, has _less_ game in Nintendo 64 than on Playstation.

    Nintendo's games excelled at being built around original concepts or interesting designs, more than on superior technical capabilities. Even if you compare the blatant Playstation copies of Nintendo 64 titles (say, Mario Kart vs Crash Team Racing, or F-Zero vs Wip3out) the blatant copies don't fall behind at all.*

    * I just learned there is a Wipeout port to the Nintendo 64. Interesting find.




    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Saturday, September 18, 2021 07:51:00
    Nightfox wrote to Mr Ned <=-

    Nintendo, behind? In the 90s, I thought their Nintendo 64 was really good. I thought the N64's graphics were better than the Playstation (I always thought Playstation's graphics looked blocky), and the
    Playstation seemed to suffer from slow load times due to using CD-ROM games rather than cartridge games. The N64 also had a 64-bit processor whereas the others were using a 32-bit processor, I believe - though
    maybe that didn't really offer much..

    The N64 was a more powerful system but Nintendo were still selling SNES games when the PS1 was released, which was more my point realy. The PS1 suffered
    with slow loads but it had wayy more storage, which made it better for RPGs and anything else that needed more data. N64 games looked nicer but were massively restricted in that way.

    I dunno, I liked both systems although I was more a PS1 user. It was impressive what developers managed to get out of the system by the end of its lifespan.

    MN

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Mr Ned@CAVEBBS to Arelor on Saturday, September 18, 2021 07:59:00
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nintendo's games excelled at being built around original concepts or interesting designs, more than on superior technical capabilities. Even
    if you compare the blatant Playstation copies of Nintendo 64 titles
    (say, Mario Kart vs Crash Team Racing, or F-Zero vs Wip3out) the
    blatant copies don't fall behind at all.*

    * I just learned there is a Wipeout port to the Nintendo 64.
    Interesting find.

    I feel like Wipeout went a little beyond just being a blatant copy -
    Psygnosis put enough into it that it was its own distinctive series. The
    music was pioneering - 2097 in particular used a load of music that was extremely popular in the UK around the time, not really a thing video games
    did or were able to do until that generation.

    I'm massively disappointed that the new game is a, er, mobile phone card game rather than a racer, though.

    MN

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Monday, September 20, 2021 22:37:00
    NIGHTFOX wrote to ALL <=-

    @VIA: DIGDIST
    @MSGID: <6140CA75.2287.dove_dove-hob@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    Who else is into retro gaming?

    Every so often I'll play a game of Frogger or Galaga via MAME,
    but I don't consider myself a retro anything. :-)

    Except RPG's... Paper and Pencil ones - I still enjoy the old
    TSR Top Secret game. :-)

    missed having a real console. A long time ago, I had an original NES,
    a Nintendo 64, and a TurboGrafX-16. For a while, a SNES as well. I
    just bought a SNES on eBay.. I'm not sure what all I'll do with it,
    since I can play the games with emulators, but it might be fun.

    I think having an actual console would be cool. :-)




    ... Jesus Saves -- passes to Moses - he shoots! HE SCORES!!!
    --- MultiMail/Mac v0.52
    ■ wcQWK 8.0 ≈ Omicron Theta * Horn Lake, MS * winserver.org
  • From Lupine Furmen@FURFOL to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 07:31:49
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 22:37:00

    As far as I'm concerned, There is not much that is more retro than a good ole BBS Door Game! :)
    -+-

    Lupine Furmen
    -Dallas Vinson
    Furmens Folly (FIDO 1:123/257) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23
    SSH: furmenservices.net:23222
    Before the Web - telnet: furmenservices.net:23232
    Legends of Yesteryear (FIDO 1:123/256) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23322
    Sound Source ]|[ - telnet: furmenservices.net:2323



    Dallas

    ... I stayed in a really old hotel last night. They sent me a wake-up letter.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Furmen's Folly - furmenservices.net:23
  • From Boraxman@MSRDBBS to Lupine Furmen on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 16:59:00
    Lupine Furmen wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    @MSGID: <6149D0B5.715.dove-hobby@furmenservices.net>
    @REPLY: <614968BF.2441.dove-hob@vert.synchro.net>
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX
    on Mon Sep 20 2021 22:37:00

    As far as I'm concerned, There is not much that is more retro than a
    good ole BBS Door Game! :)
    -+-

    Lupine Furmen
    -Dallas Vinson
    Furmens Folly (FIDO 1:123/257) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23
    SSH: furmenservices.net:23222
    Before the Web - telnet: furmenservices.net:23232
    Legends of Yesteryear (FIDO 1:123/256) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23322
    Sound Source ]|[ - telnet: furmenservices.net:2323

    On a CRT monitor. It isn't like how it used to be unless you are using the older hardware, or a very good emulation of it.

    Dennis Katsonis

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@REALITY to Ksource on Friday, September 17, 2021 07:56:00
    Ksource wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

    Have you seen this? NHL '94 is still pretty popular and they are constantly modding it with new rosters, graphics, etc - https://www.nhl94.com/

    That is so cool! I hadn't heard of it before. I'm not surprised,
    though. NHL 94 was definitely the best game in the NHL series, at least going into the 2000s, and I know I'm not alone in thinking that.

    The greatest thing (to me) to happen in gaming was for ID Software to open source the DOOM engine and allow third-party levels. I'm still playing a
    game I started playing almost 30 years ago, and it's bigger and better than when I started.

    Maybe it's because it's the first thing I played, but I think some of the levels on DOOM are some of the best I'd played. Then again, I played a *lot* of it back then.


    ... See you on the other side.
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
  • From Arelor@PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, September 23, 2021 15:54:38
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ksource on Fri Sep 17 2021 07:56 am

    The greatest thing (to me) to happen in gaming was for ID Software to open source the DOOM engine and allow third-party levels. I'm still playing a game I started playing almost 30 years ago, and it's bigger and better than when I started.

    Maybe it's because it's the first thing I played, but I think some of the levels on DOOM are some of the best I'd played. Then again, I played a *lot* of it back then.


    I agree. The ID 1 engine and its derivatives are way cool.

    Lots of WADS and Megawads to have fun. The gameplay may be simplistic but it still beats many modern shooters IMO.

    Don't forget to try Cyberdreams, a megawad in which you must defeat a legion of Cyberdemons on each level, armed only with a gun with no bullets. It is actually a sequence of megapuzzles. The last level has 156 cyberdemons surrounding you right from the start. So much fun with that one.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@OTHETA to LUPINE FURMEN on Thursday, October 14, 2021 16:32:00
    LUPINE FURMEN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    As far as I'm concerned, There is not much that is more retro than a
    good ole BBS Door Game! :)
    -+-

    Yeah - I miss the days of several people playing LoRD, Global War, etc.





    ... Warning: Your tagline is low. Pull up. Pull..
    --- MultiMail/Mac v0.52
    ■ wcQWK 8.0 ≈ Omicron Theta * Horn Lake, MS * winserver.org
  • From Daryl Stout@TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Monday, October 25, 2021 18:23:00
    Jimmy,

    Yeah - I miss the days of several people playing LoRD, Global War, etc.

    Life tends to get in the way of our hobbies. :P

    Daryl

    ... They stopped too soon with 6 Up and Preparation G.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas
  • From Matthew Munson@IUTOPIA to JIMMY ANDERSON on Monday, October 25, 2021 19:03:00
    Yeah - I miss the days of several people playing LoRD, Global War,
    I did register Global War and Global Backgammon, but i dont see anyone interested.

    ---
    ■ Talisman ■ Inland Utopia - telnet://iutopia.duckdns.org:2023
  • From HusTler@PHARCYDE to Matthew Munson on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:05:28
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Matthew Munson to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Oct 25 2021 07:03 pm

    Yeah - I miss the days of several people playing LoRD, Global War,
    I did register Global War and Global Backgammon, but i dont see anyone interested.

    Try playing on BBSlink. You'll find a few Global War players there.

    |04 HusTler

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@OTHETA to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 14:38:00
    MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    @VIA: IUTOPIA
    @MSGID: <61777997.2471.dove-hob@vert.synchro.net>
    Yeah - I miss the days of several people playing LoRD, Global War,
    I did register Global War and Global Backgammon, but i dont see anyone interested.

    When I first got back into 'dialing in' to BBS's a few years ago, I would
    hit several. One had a semi active Global War player base, but I've yet to
    find a good LoRD game that's active.

    Now I just hit my 'local' BBS and do messages only...

    But - that being said - if someone will make something... :-)




    ... NO CARRIER - but I've got some warships and F-15's
    --- MultiMail/Mac v0.52
    ■ wcQWK 8.0 ≈ Omicron Theta *Cordova, TN * winserver.org
  • From Digital Man to Matthew Munson on Thursday, October 28, 2021 11:41:30
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Matthew Munson to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Oct 25 2021 07:03 pm

    I did register Global War and Global Backgammon, but i dont see anyone interested.

    Global War was one of my favs back in the day. Can't seem to get players here on Vertrauen either.
    --
    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #82:
    Telix = Commercial MS-DOS and Windows communications/terminal program
    Norco, CA WX: 87.4°F, 24.0% humidity, 3 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From acn@IMZADI to Digital Man on Monday, November 01, 2021 10:16:28
    Hi,

    just fyi, I'm playing Global War and Global Backgammon quite regularly on BBSlink :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    ---
    ï¿­ Synchronet ï¿­ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From HusTler@PHARCYDE to acn on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 07:15:06
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: acn to Digital Man on Mon Nov 01 2021 10:16 am

    just fyi, I'm playing Global War and Global Backgammon quite regularly on BBSlink :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    Me too ;-)

    |04 HusTler

    ... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Digital Man to Nightfox on Sunday, August 25, 2024 19:48:09
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 14 2021 09:14 am

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I know we discussed this already in #synchronet, but ... I thought I'd mentioned here before that I bought a retro gaming handheld (the Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 2) a couple years ago and was super impressed at what you can get for the money these days. I even bought a couple as gifts.

    My teenage daughter sort of took ownership of my RGB10 MAX 2, so today I bought myself (for a long flight) a Miyoo Mini Plus (for $59 on Amazon), which has a smaller, little bit lower res screen, and is in the vertical (Gameboy) layout, but mostly the same game/emulation support as the Powkiddy I own. I was also pondering the Anbernic RG35XXH (horizontal) or RG35XXSP (flip), but liked the look of the Onion OS option for the Miyoo better and it was about $10 cheaper <shrug>.

    There are *so* many options (hardware, "OS") in the retro gaming handheld space. I do think I'd like something that played all (or most) N64 games well, but that's getting into the multi-hundo price range. The ports to these platforms of course run well on all of them, but volunteer devs can't (or won't) do that for most old console games (though, someone did it for the Super Mario 64). I see the Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3 is out and there's other updated larger screen/wide devices and some super small form factor ones too. Fun stuff!
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #1:
    Nigel Tufnel: These go to eleven.
    Norco, CA WX: 74.5°F, 52.0% humidity, 8 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From GenFx@DR to Nightfox on Monday, August 26, 2024 17:29:29
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 19:48:09

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 14 2021 09:14 am

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I know we discussed this already in #synchronet, but ... I thought I'd mentioned here before that I bought a retro gaming handheld (the Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 2) a couple years ago and was super impressed at what you can get for the money these days. I even bought a couple as gifts.

    My teenage daughter sort of took ownership of my RGB10 MAX 2, so today I bought myself (for a long flight) a Miyoo Mini Plus (for $59 on Amazon), which has a smaller, little bit lower res screen, and is in the vertical (Gameboy) layout, but mostly the same game/emulation support as the Powkiddy I own. I was also pondering the Anbernic RG35XXH (horizontal) or RG35XXSP (flip), but liked the look of the Onion OS option for the Miyoo better and it was about $10 cheaper <shrug>.

    There are *so* many options (hardware, "OS") in the retro gaming handheld space. I do think I'd like something that played all (or most) N64 games well, but that's getting into the multi-hundo price range. The ports to these platforms of course run well on all of them, but volunteer devs can't (or won't) do that for most old console games (though, someone did it for the Super Mario 64). I see the Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3 is out and there's other updated larger screen/wide devices and some super small form factor ones too. Fun stuff!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info
  • From GenFx@DR to Nightfox on Monday, August 26, 2024 17:32:38
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 19:48:09

    I have the Anbernic RG 35XX plus, it like a game boy and is great.
    Its very powerful and plays everything upto the PSP.
    The software it comes with works great out of the box and comes fully loaded. You can put Onion on it is you like, I was going to but I really liked it how it come so I left it as is.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Digital Man on Monday, August 26, 2024 10:18:10
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 07:48 pm

    There are *so* many options (hardware, "OS") in the retro gaming handheld space. I do think I'd like something that played all (or most) N64 games well, but that's getting into the multi-hundo price range. The ports to these platforms of course run well on all of them, but volunteer devs can't (or won't) do that for most old console games (though, someone did it for the Super Mario 64). I see the Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3 is out and there's other updated larger screen/wide devices and some super small form factor ones too. Fun stuff!

    There are definitely a lot of options for handheld retro gaming. I decided to order a Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3, so I'm looking forward to using that when it arrives. Depending on how I like it, I might sell my RetroFlag Pi-based retro handheld.

    And in general, there are lots of options for emulation these days. Aside from handhelds and emulation on my PC, I also have a modded Nintendo Wii that I installed some emulators on, as well as a Nintendo SNES Classic Mini, and on another TV, I have an Nvidia Shield Pro with RetroArch installed on it (it can use a bluetooth gaming controller).

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man to GenFx on Monday, August 26, 2024 14:25:33
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: GenFx to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 05:32 pm

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 19:48:09

    I have the Anbernic RG 35XX plus, it like a game boy and is great.
    Its very powerful and plays everything upto the PSP.
    The software it comes with works great out of the box and comes fully loaded. You can put Onion on it is you like, I was going to but I really liked it how it come so I left it as is.

    I think for that device, the custom OS equivalent is "Garlic" (not Onion), but yeah, same idea.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #14:
    First name of Emlio - that's at least half a beaner, let you off for $10 - Hank Norco, CA WX: 90.1°F, 28.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From Digital Man to Nightfox on Monday, August 26, 2024 14:26:26
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Aug 26 2024 10:18 am

    There are definitely a lot of options for handheld retro gaming. I decided to order a Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3, so I'm looking forward to using that when it arrives. Depending on how I like it, I might sell my RetroFlag Pi-based retro handheld.

    Let us know how you like the RGB10 MAX 3. For $99, it's kind of hard to go wrong.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #46:
    "Not an Exit" - we don't want an exit. Well that's true.
    Norco, CA WX: 90.1°F, 28.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to Nightfox on Monday, August 26, 2024 14:51:24
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Aug 26 2024 10:18 am

    arrives. Depending on how I like it, I might sell my RetroFlag Pi-based retr handheld.

    Do you have the GPi Case? I've got one, and while I don't use it near as much as the Odroid Go Advance (which doesn't get much use to begin with), I don't think I'll ever get rid of it :). When the Gameboy first came out, I would lay awake at night thinking about them and how much I wanted one, and partly because of the aesthetic. Definitely will always love the GPi Case. What I've noticed, though, is it goes through AA batteries faster than if you hook up the regular USB power cable into a USB battery. I've been playing it that way. Also I have a distro on it that seemed to boot much faster than all the rest.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From Crushed@T0KERZ to GenFx on Monday, August 26, 2024 18:45:14
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: GenFx to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 05:32 pm

    I have the Anbernic RG 35XX plus, it like a game boy and is great.
    Its very powerful and plays everything upto the PSP.

    These days I mostly do my retro gaming on my Steam Deck, it does a great job running retroarch and has a nice screen for my old eyes ;)

    I also have a heavily modded PS Vita that I still play around with quite frequently... it has some hockey games that came out for the PSP and Vita, and again, Retroarch runs good on it for most platforms.

    About 3 years ago I played around with the "Retroid Pocket 2" and was pretty impressed with it but it really shows its age today compared to what's available. I even loaded up IPTV on it to give it that "nostalgic vibe ala "TurboExpress with TV adapter" feeling... I had a TurboExpress back in the day (that took me what felt like forever to save up for) but I never had the TV tuner. Here's what my IPTV install on the Retroid looked like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nmQi_Raz-0

    (sorry for the mickey-mouse screen recording... it was a quick and dirty video)


    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ t0kerZ hUt
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to phigan on Monday, August 26, 2024 16:00:31
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 02:51 pm

    Do you have the GPi Case? I've got one, and while I don't use it near as much as the Odroid Go Advance (which doesn't get much use to begin with), I don't think I'll ever get rid of it :). When the Gameboy first came out, I would lay awake at night thinking about them and how much I wanted one, and partly because of the aesthetic. Definitely will always love the GPi Case. What I've noticed, though, is it goes through AA batteries faster than if you hook up the regular USB power cable into a USB battery. I've been playing it that way. Also I have a distro on it that seemed to boot much faster than all the rest.

    Yes, I have the GPi case. I think mine is the newer version though, as it uses an internal rechargeable battery rather than AA batteries (and it charges via USB-C). I think the battery has a decent life before it needs to be recharged.

    I do like the aesthetic, though to me it feels a bit bulky in my hands. I think the original Game Boy did too though. Before I had this, I had a GCW Zero, which was thinner, and I felt like it was more comfortable to me to hold. The GCW Zero was also a wide one, with the controls to the sides of the screen rather than below. The main reason I bought the GPi was that the screen on my GCW Zero crapped out and wasn't really working anymore, and I thought the GPi would be a cool Raspberry Pi project (which it is).

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From GenFx@DR to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 11:56:29
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to GenFx on Mon Aug 26 2024 14:25:33

    I think for that device, the custom OS equivalent is "Garlic" (not Onion), but yeah, same idea.

    It can use both garlic and onion, I tried them both but liked the original software the best, nearly all games worked flawlessly with it.
    It also has a pretty by device UI too lol

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info
  • From GenFx@DR to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 11:58:35
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 14:26:26

    Let us know how you like the RGB10 MAX 3. For $99, it's kind of hard to go wrong.

    Id like to know too, i think id like a larger screen for home use.
    I dont like rubber coated devices thou but it looks like not all of them are.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info
  • From GenFx@DR to Crushed on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 16:10:25
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Crushed to GenFx on Mon Aug 26 2024 18:45:14

    These days I mostly do my retro gaming on my Steam Deck, it does a great job running retroarch and has a nice screen for my old eyes ;)

    I also have a heavily modded PS Vita that I still play around with quite frequently... it has some hockey games that came out for the PSP and Vita, and again, Retroarch runs good on it for most platforms.

    About 3 years ago I played around with the "Retroid Pocket 2" and was pretty impressed with it but it really shows its age today compared to what's available. I even loaded up IPTV on it to give it that "nostalgic vibe ala "TurboExpress with TV adapter" feeling... I had a TurboExpress back in the day (that took me what felt like forever to save up for) but I never had the TV tuner. Here's what my IPTV install on the Retroid looked like:

    A steam deck would be nice, but a bit out of my price range.
    I'll probably try the RGB10Max for the bigger screen if it's recieved well.
    I really only play retro games on handheld anyway.

    That IPTV install looks fun, I only had Casio pocket TV back when LCD panels were black magic. I used to play my NES through it lol

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 10:09:24
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 07:48 pm

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I have a full-size MAME machine.

    LOVE IT!!! 2,120 games!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From Crushed@T0KERZ to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 15:39:10
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to Digital Man on Tue Aug 27 2024 10:09 am

    I have a full-size MAME machine.
    LOVE IT!!! 2,120 games!

    That's the way to do it! Unless you're this guy LOL:

    https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1828195718970171656?t=6SZjiAK6-IWFEVtbqCHBD A&s=08

    Over 400 hardware consoles connected to a single TV... someone has too much time/money on their hands!!!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ t0kerZ hUt
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 13:17:29
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to Digital Man on Tue Aug 27 2024 10:09 am

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I have a full-size MAME machine.

    LOVE IT!!! 2,120 games!

    I'm pretty sure I wrote that part of the message you quoted, but you responded to someone else..

    I feel like 2,120 would be a lot to choose from. There's a paradox of choice where having too many things to choose from could make you feel overwhelmed and make it difficult to actually make a choice. I tend to have a smaller number of games on my emulation devices, and it's mostly games I really like or might want to play.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From kk4qbn@KK4QBN to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 17:48:01
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to KnightMare on Tue Aug 27 2024 13:17:29

    I'm pretty sure I wrote that part of the message you quoted, but you responded to someone else..

    I feel like 2,120 would be a lot to choose from. There's a paradox of choice where having too many things to choose from could make you feel overwhelmed and make it difficult to actually make a choice. I tend to have a smaller number of games on my emulation devices, and it's mostly games I really like or might want to play.

    Definatly, Its like with all these streaming services, I end up clicking through the menu until I give up and re-watch something like Futurama that I have seen 15000 times.. It gets tiring.. A good while ago I soft-modded my wii and stuck almost every game that I have in my file areas on it (sega, snes, nes, n64, atari) ended up playing about 5 different things and doing other linuxy stuff on it.. now it's been in the closet for about 5 years. may break it out and put synchronet on it :-)
    ---
    Tim (kk4qbn)
    +o kk4qbn.synchro.net
    ■ Synchronet ■ KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.synchro.net - Chatsworth, GA USA
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to kk4qbn on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 15:39:07
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: kk4qbn to Nightfox on Tue Aug 27 2024 05:48 pm

    Definatly, Its like with all these streaming services, I end up clicking through the menu until I give up and re-watch something like Futurama that I have seen 15000 times.. It gets tiring.. A good while ago I soft-modded my wii and stuck almost every game that I have in my file areas on it (sega, snes, nes, n64, atari) ended up playing about 5 different things and doing other linuxy stuff on it.. now it's been in the closet for about 5 years. may break it out and put synchronet on it :-)

    I also modded my Wii and put some emulators on it, as well as some Wii game ISOs (so that I don't have to put in the discs). I actually haven't used it as much as I thought I would, but I do have several other ways to play emulated games if I want to do that.

    The TV that I have my Wii connected to may have been one of the last TVs to still have analog RCA/component inputs, which the Wii is using (I have it connected via the 5 component inputs - 3 RGB for video, and 2 for the stereo audio. It seems that most TVs these days just have HDMI inputs. The TV I'm using with my Wii is a 55" 4K TV, and I think it's kinda funny it has the RCA inputs.. The Wii has an option to output either a 4:3 image or a 16:9 image, and the Wii actually looks pretty decent on the TV, especially with the 16:9 option.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 17:58:06
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to Digital Man on Tue Aug 27 2024 10:09 am

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 25 2024 07:48 pm

    Who else is into retro gaming?

    I have a full-size MAME machine.

    LOVE IT!!! 2,120 games!

    do you use one of those gui softwares? i cant remember the name but i downloaded it.
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Crushed@T0KERZ to MRO on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 21:30:25
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Tue Aug 27 2024 05:58 pm

    do you use one of those gui softwares? i cant remember the name but i downloaded it.

    My favorite front-end is Hyperspin! (combined with RocketLauncher for the emulation). I could just sit and watch it "spin" all day and see what it lands on next.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ t0kerZ hUt
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to MRO on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 22:58:14
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Tue Aug 27 2024 05:58 pm

    LOVE IT!!! 2,120 games!

    do you use one of those gui softwares? i cant remember the name but i downloaded it.

    It's not in a PC - i have a game console loaded with the ROMS inside a full size (heavy-as-fuck) coin-op machine. I wired it up and the joysticks and buttons. I'll take a pic of it and post it somewhere.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to kk4qbn on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 06:42:36
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: kk4qbn to Nightfox on Tue Aug 27 2024 05:48 pm

    have seen 15000 times.. It gets tiring.. A good while ago I soft-modded my w and stuck almost every game that I have in my file areas on it (sega, snes, nes, n64, atari) ended up playing about 5 different things and doing other linuxy stuff on it.. now it's been in the closet for about 5 years. may bre

    Do you remember what you emu(s) you were using to play all those games? Was it anything that could run native or did you have to open the homebrew channel? Also, what kinda linuxy stuff did you do on it, out of curiosity?

    I've got my Wii softmodded, but I mostly play native Wii games on it. If I remember right, there was at least one fun homebrew game and also a kinda minimal one called Cubivore :).

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 06:44:22
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to kk4qbn on Tue Aug 27 2024 03:39 pm

    connected via the 5 component inputs - 3 RGB for video, and 2 for the stereo audio. It seems that most TVs these days just have HDMI inputs. The TV I'm

    My TV also has component, but there are some supercheap HDMI adapters that came out for the Wii and they look fine for the most part. I think I paid $6.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to KnightMare on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 06:48:34
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to MRO on Tue Aug 27 2024 10:58 pm

    It's not in a PC - i have a game console loaded with the ROMS inside a full size (heavy-as-fuck) coin-op machine. I wired it up and the joysticks and buttons. I'll take a pic of it and post it somewhere.

    Just wanted to throw this out there if I haven't mentioned it already..

    You can make your own arcade room in VR if you have a Quest 2/Quest 3! https://curifab.itch.io/age-of-joy

    And a couple videos of people using it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYY5oOcqYUc&t=78s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNc0WW3ehow

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From kk4qbn@KK4QBN to phigan on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:31:02
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to kk4qbn on Wed Aug 28 2024 06:42:36

    Do you remember what you emu(s) you were using to play all those games? Was > anything that could run native or did you have to open the homebrew channel? > Also, what kinda linuxy stuff did you do on it, out of curiosity?

    I really don't remember if the emu's were off the homebrew channel or if they were ones for linux it has been a long time, Just know that I got that little wii to do a lot of stuff I did'nt think it was capable of, as of "Linuxy Stuff"I used it as a multi-use type computer for my ham radio stuff, satellite
    tracking, and I think even sdr stuff. it was just a pretty good little linux box to play with. :-)

    ---
    Tim (kk4qbn)
    +o kk4qbn.synchro.net
    ■ Synchronet ■ KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.synchro.net - Chatsworth, GA USA
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to KnightMare on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 19:12:55
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to MRO on Tue Aug 27 2024 10:58 pm

    do you use one of those gui softwares? i cant remember the name but i downloaded it.

    It's not in a PC - i have a game console loaded with the ROMS inside a full size (heavy-as-fuck) coin-op machine. I wired it up and the joysticks and buttons. I'll take a pic of it and post it somewhere.

    I thought mame runs on personal computers.

    what game console?
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to kk4qbn on Friday, August 30, 2024 04:54:58
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: kk4qbn to phigan on Wed Aug 28 2024 11:31 am

    Stuff"I used it as a multi-use type computer for my ham radio stuff, satell tracking, and I think even sdr stuff. it was just a pretty good little linux box to play with. :-)

    Hey, that's cool, I didn't think of stuff like that. I wonder if you can access any ports somehow in Linux.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From kk4qbn@KK4QBN to phigan on Friday, August 30, 2024 09:39:56
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to kk4qbn on Fri Aug 30 2024 04:54:58

    Stuff"I used it as a multi-use type computer for my ham radio stuff, sat > > tracking, and I think even sdr stuff. it was just a pretty good little li > > box to play with. :-)

    Hey, that's cool, I didn't think of stuff like that. I wonder if you can acc > any ports somehow in Linux.

    I don't see why not. I cant remember if I was using a rooted acount of the linux that is on the system itself or installed one or what.. I need to break it back out and poke around on it.

    ---
    Tim (kk4qbn)
    +o kk4qbn.synchro.net
    ■ Synchronet ■ KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.synchro.net - Chatsworth, GA USA
  • From Digital Man to MRO on Thursday, September 05, 2024 12:35:23
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Wed Aug 28 2024 07:12 pm

    I thought mame runs on personal computers.

    MAME runs on all kinds of platforms, even little/cheap retro gaming handhelds. --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #6:
    My Name is ASAC Schrader - and you can go fuck yourself. - Hank Schrader
    Norco, CA WX: 104.6°F, 19.0% humidity, 3 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thursday, September 05, 2024 21:19:02
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Sep 05 2024 12:35 pm

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Wed Aug 28 2024 07:12 pm

    I thought mame runs on personal computers.

    MAME runs on all kinds of platforms, even little/cheap retro gaming handhelds.


    yeah but he says he has a cabinet; isn't that always powered by a personal computer instead of some little handheld you get off amazon?
    I knew people that built them and they always used a personal computer.
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, September 05, 2024 19:58:59
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Sep 05 2024 09:19 pm

    yeah but he says he has a cabinet; isn't that always powered by a personal computer instead of some little handheld you get off amazon? I knew people that built them and they always used a personal computer.

    I haven't built a gaming cabinet myself, but I imagine you could use a lot of things, including perhaps a Raspberry Pi connected to a monitor and a gamepad installed in the cabinet.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thursday, September 05, 2024 20:14:11
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 02:26 pm

    There are definitely a lot of options for handheld retro gaming. I decided
    to order a Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3, so I'm looking forward to using that when
    it arrives. Depending on how I like it, I might sell my RetroFlag Pi-based
    retro handheld.

    Let us know how you like the RGB10 MAX 3. For $99, it's kind of hard to go wrong.

    The model I bought is actually the RGB10 MAX 3 Pro, which has some more buttons on the front (about $115). It arrived today, and I've played with it just a little bit. I bought it with a micro-SD card, and when I powered it on, I found it came pre-installed with an OS (JelOS) and a bunch of ROMs pre-loaded onto it (unexpected, but I suppose considering it came from China, not too surprising). The screen is clear and sharp, and the console feels fairly comfortable to hold & play. Even though the site lists the specs, I feel like it was a little bigger than expected. The GCW-Zero I used to have was a little smaller, and I think its size was a bit more manageable. I usually use a retro handheld while laying down on a couch or in bed, and I think the size could make a difference in how comfortable it is to hold & play that way.

    I'm not sure if I want to keep JelOS on it. I've been using Recalbox on my Pi-based RetroFlag handheld, but I've also heard you mention Onion, which I might check out.

    Also, I hadn't previously noticed, but their web site says it doesn't have built-in wifi, so if you want that functionality, you'd have to buy a separate wifi adapter. They have a small USB wifi adapter they sell (along with a required USB-A to USB-C adapter to plug it into the device); it looks like AliExpress sells theirs, and it sounds like there are some wifi adapters on Amazon that will work with it. Some emulators let you play multi-player online, and some retro gaming OSes allow accessing the storage over your network, which is where a wifi adapter can be useful.

    Aside from a wifi adapter, a carrying case might be nice to have, to protect it while in storage and if I want to bring it with me somewhere. Powkiddy sells those too, but I didn't really think to buy one there when I ordered mine.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to All on Friday, September 06, 2024 12:33:19
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Sep 05 2024 08:14 pm

    The model I bought is actually the RGB10 MAX 3 Pro

    I forgot to mention, the D-pad is pretty sensitive. So far I've found it can be fairly easy to accidentally go to the next game system/category due to the D-pad sensitivity.

    Also, I've found that the analog sticks by default don't seem to work in the Playstation games I've tried, but the analog sticks (at least the left one) works in the NES emulator, where it's probably not really needed. There may be settings to be changed for that.

    I'm not sure if I want to keep JelOS on it.

    I did a little bit of searching online, and it sounds like JelOS (or its replacement, Rocknix) may be the only OS option for it. Maybe the pages I saw online were out of date. I thought I saw Onion was also an option.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man to Nightfox on Friday, September 06, 2024 13:22:28
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Sep 05 2024 08:14 pm

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2024 02:26 pm

    There are definitely a lot of options for handheld retro gaming. I decided
    to order a Powkiddy RGB10 MAX 3, so I'm looking forward to using that when
    it arrives. Depending on how I like it, I might sell my RetroFlag Pi-based
    retro handheld.

    Let us know how you like the RGB10 MAX 3. For $99, it's kind of hard to go wrong.

    The model I bought is actually the RGB10 MAX 3 Pro, which has some more buttons on the front (about $115).

    Oh, interesting. The MAX 3 Pro is actually older than the MAX 3: https://youtu.be/PVxSdVQwQ6s?t=695

    It arrived today, and I've played with
    it just a little bit. I bought it with a micro-SD card, and when I powered it on, I found it came pre-installed with an OS (JelOS) and a bunch of ROMs pre-loaded onto it (unexpected, but I suppose considering it came from China, not too surprising).

    They mostly seem to come with SD Cards with many thousands of ROMs as kind of a selling point. Usually the SD Card is not very high quality though.

    The screen is clear and sharp, and the console
    feels fairly comfortable to hold & play. Even though the site lists the specs, I feel like it was a little bigger than expected. The GCW-Zero I used to have was a little smaller, and I think its size was a bit more manageable. I usually use a retro handheld while laying down on a couch or in bed, and I think the size could make a difference in how comfortable it is to hold & play that way.

    I'm not sure if I want to keep JelOS on it. I've been using Recalbox on my Pi-based RetroFlag handheld, but I've also heard you mention Onion, which I might check out.

    Also, I hadn't previously noticed, but their web site says it doesn't have built-in wifi, so if you want that functionality, you'd have to buy a separate wifi adapter. They have a small USB wifi adapter they sell (along with a required USB-A to USB-C adapter to plug it into the device); it looks like AliExpress sells theirs, and it sounds like there are some wifi adapters on Amazon that will work with it. Some emulators let you play multi-player online, and some retro gaming OSes allow accessing the storage over your network, which is where a wifi adapter can be useful.

    Aside from a wifi adapter, a carrying case might be nice to have, to protect it while in storage and if I want to bring it with me somewhere. Powkiddy sells those too, but I didn't really think to buy one there when I ordered mine.

    Thanks for the review!

    I probably will get another bigger/horiztonal handheld at some point, but not sure it would be the RGB10 MAX 3 Pro, based on other reviews.

    I've put a few hours on the Miyoo Mini Plus now and while the form factor isn't as comfortable, it's small size is pretty great. For Gameboy/GBC/GBA games, I think it's a great device. I think its biggest downside is the lack of analog sticks. Even though the hardware (processor, graphics) are capable of playing some old favs like Doom, Quake, and Duke Nukem, the lack of the stick really makes playing those games impractical.

    My 18 year old daughter still plays the RGB10 MAX 2 a lot (Pokemon games, not sure for which platform), so it's held up. I'd buy another Powkiddy device.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #4:
    Doyle: wimpy-ass kids or mental retards.. she got one of each livin' with her. Norco, CA WX: 108.6°F, 17.0% humidity, 8 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, September 06, 2024 16:51:36
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Sep 06 2024 01:22 pm

    The model I bought is actually the RGB10 MAX 3 Pro, which has some more
    buttons on the front (about $115).

    Oh, interesting. The MAX 3 Pro is actually older than the MAX 3: https://youtu.be/PVxSdVQwQ6s?t=695

    Ah, interesting.. Spec-wise, I wonder if the Pro is still supposed to be a step up from the non-Pro version. Their site says they have different processors, but the Pro's is a 6-core, whereas the non-Pro has a quad-core.

    They mostly seem to come with SD Cards with many thousands of ROMs as kind of a selling point. Usually the SD Card is not very high quality though.

    Ah, I figured it would be convenient to order the card from them. And since it's already loaded with stuff, it's an example of how the ROMs are organized and how to add more (there are XML files in each directory where you can specify a 'cover art' image for each ROM and specify the publisher, release date, etc. if you want).

    I think my main complaint about it is that the D-pad is fairly sensitive. The lack of wifi is a little disappointing, but honestly I don't use network capability in a handheld emulation device much anyway.

    I've put a few hours on the Miyoo Mini Plus now and while the form factor isn't as comfortable, it's small size is pretty great. For Gameboy/GBC/GBA games, I think it's a great device. I think its biggest downside is the lack of analog sticks. Even though the hardware (processor, graphics) are capable of playing some old favs like Doom, Quake, and Duke Nukem, the lack of the stick really makes playing those games impractical.

    Yeah, I think it's good to have the analog sticks. Also, this is the first one I've had that looks like it can play PS2 games fairly well. I thought it would be interesting to try out some PS2 games on it. I thought it was already impressive that other handhelds I've had before can play original Playstation games fairly well.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man to Nightfox on Friday, September 06, 2024 20:20:47
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Sep 06 2024 04:51 pm

    Oh, interesting. The MAX 3 Pro is actually older than the MAX 3: https://youtu.be/PVxSdVQwQ6s?t=695

    Ah, interesting.. Spec-wise, I wonder if the Pro is still supposed to be a step up from the non-Pro version. Their site says they have different processors, but the Pro's is a 6-core, whereas the non-Pro has a quad-core.

    Yup, I think it is still considered a "step up", spec-wise.

    They mostly seem to come with SD Cards with many thousands of ROMs as kind of a selling point. Usually the SD Card is not very high quality though.

    Ah, I figured it would be convenient to order the card from them. And since it's already loaded with stuff, it's an example of how the ROMs are organized and how to add more (there are XML files in each directory where you can specify a 'cover art' image for each ROM and specify the publisher, release date, etc. if you want).

    I found some ROM sets on archive.org pre-setup with cover art, etc. Saved me a lot of time curriating.

    I think my main complaint about it is that the D-pad is fairly sensitive. The lack of wifi is a little disappointing, but honestly I don't use network capability in a handheld emulation device much anyway.

    I've put a few hours on the Miyoo Mini Plus now and while the form factor isn't as comfortable, it's small size is pretty great. For Gameboy/GBC/GBA games, I think it's a great device. I think its biggest downside is the lack of analog sticks. Even though the hardware (processor, graphics) are capable of playing some old favs like Doom, Quake, and Duke Nukem, the lack of the stick really makes playing those games impractical.

    Yeah, I think it's good to have the analog sticks. Also, this is the first one I've had that looks like it can play PS2 games fairly well. I thought it would be interesting to try out some PS2 games on it. I thought it was already impressive that other handhelds I've had before can play original Playstation games fairly well.

    I don't think the non-Pro MAX 3 can play PS2 games very well (or at all?), so that's probably the main advantage of the Pro model.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #7:
    Karl: I don't reckon the Good Lord would send anybody like you to Hades.
    Norco, CA WX: 91.5°F, 29.0% humidity, 6 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From Digital Man to Nightfox on Friday, September 06, 2024 20:22:46
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Sep 06 2024 04:51 pm

    The lack of wifi is a little disappointing, but honestly I don't use network capability in a handheld emulation device much anyway.

    I found the WiFi support on the Miyoo Mini Plus convenient for OTA updates and retro achievements.
    https://retroachievements.org/
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #20:
    Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. Norco, CA WX: 91.5°F, 29.0% humidity, 6 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to Digital Man on Saturday, September 07, 2024 01:00:06
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Sep 05 2024 12:35 pm

    MAME runs on all kinds of platforms, even little/cheap retro gaming handhelds.

    I almost sure there's a Pi version too!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to MRO on Saturday, September 07, 2024 01:02:13
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Sep 05 2024 09:19 pm

    yeah but he says he has a cabinet; isn't that always powered by a personal computer instead of some little handheld you get off amazon?
    I knew people that built them and they always used a personal computer.

    A PC is certainly a way to run, but this is 2024 and there are lots of ways
    to get a pro-loaded MAME console, then do the wiring for the lights, sound, joystics, buttons, a sold PSU.,, It truly *is* a labor of love.

    I really need to upload a video or some pics to show you.


    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, September 06, 2024 23:42:45
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Sep 06 2024 08:20 pm

    I found some ROM sets on archive.org pre-setup with cover art, etc. Saved me a lot of time curriating.

    Ah, thanks for the tip.

    I tend to not really like having too many games to scroll through. I made a backup of what was on the card initially, and then removed many of the ROMs and kept the ones I typically like to have on a device. The cover art for many of the games were already on the SD card, which saved me some time. I also found a utility for generating a gamelist.xml file, though it's fairly simplistic in that it looks for every file in a directory and writes a gamelist.xml with the filename, name (with the extension stripped off), and a cover art image, which it assumes has the same name as the ROM but with a .png or .jpg or something. I still had to do some manual work in specifying the actual cover art filenames. Also, the tool I was using doesn't write things like the release date, publisher, etc. (not smart enough to do that, and I'm not sure if there's a database for those kinds of things for such a tool to use).

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to KnightMare on Friday, September 06, 2024 23:43:41
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:00 am

    MAME runs on all kinds of platforms, even little/cheap retro gaming
    handhelds.

    I almost sure there's a Pi version too!

    This Powkiddy handheld that I bought recently looks like it has MAME on it too.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From DaiTengu@ENSEMBLE to KnightMare on Saturday, September 07, 2024 08:11:05
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:00 am

    MAME runs on all kinds of platforms, even little/cheap retro gaming
    handhelds.

    I almost sure there's a Pi version too!

    There is. There's a been a "retropie" project in active development for a long time. It was the first raspberry pi project I ever built, on a Pi 2B+ I Spent a lot of hours playing old SNES games, along with my favorite arcade game, SMASH-TV

    ...RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to KnightMare on Sunday, September 08, 2024 06:38:07
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to MRO on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:02 am

    A PC is certainly a way to run, but this is 2024 and there are lots of ways to get a pro-loaded MAME console, then do the wiring for the lights, sound, joystics, buttons, a sold PSU.,, It truly *is* a labor of love.

    I really need to upload a video or some pics to show you.

    no thanks, i dont need a video.
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to Nightfox on Sunday, September 08, 2024 12:20:02
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to KnightMare on Fri Sep 06 2024 11:43 pm

    I almost sure there's a Pi version too!

    This Powkiddy handheld that I bought recently looks like it has MAME on it too.

    == Sweet! ==

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to DaiTengu on Sunday, September 08, 2024 12:22:18
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: DaiTengu to KnightMare on Sat Sep 07 2024 08:11 am

    There is. There's a been a "retropie" project in active development for a long time. It was the first raspberry pi project I ever built, on a Pi 2B+ I Spent a lot of hours playing old SNES games, along with my favorite arcade game, SMASH-TV


    I'd like to get the newest Pi, but I don't have a lot of free time to screw around with it and I don't need another "toy" just sitting around collecting dust...

    I have a NUC I hardly use...


    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From KnightMare@TELEGRAP to MRO on Sunday, September 08, 2024 12:23:23
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Sun Sep 08 2024 06:38 am

    I really need to upload a video or some pics to show you.

    no thanks, i dont need a video.

    I meant that in general, not at you, direcctly... LOL

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Telegraph BBS - Fayette Co, OH USA
  • From MRO@BBSESINF to KnightMare on Sunday, September 08, 2024 23:21:51
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: KnightMare to MRO on Sun Sep 08 2024 12:23 pm

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: MRO to KnightMare on Sun Sep 08 2024 06:38 am

    I really need to upload a video or some pics to show you.

    no thanks, i dont need a video.

    I meant that in general, not at you, direcctly... LOL

    just dont
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From halian@ABINARY to MRO on Wednesday, September 11, 2024 22:41:00
    I really need to upload a video or some pics to show you.

    no thanks, i dont need a video.

    I meant that in general, not at you, direcctly... LOL

    just dont

    │ Why can't or mustn't they upload a video. :| └──────────────────────────────────────── Your time was just wasted by ╠╣âlian

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Archaic Binary * bbs.archaicbinary.net
  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to All on Sunday, September 29, 2024 13:03:17
    There's a retro gaming expo going on this weekend in the area where I live. I went yesterday, and they have a lot of vendor booths selling old console games (some even in original packaging) and consoles, and some with some more unique stuff (there was a guy there selling Nintendo Game Boys that he reconditioned with modern backlit screens, etc.), and they also had some consoles & retro computers set up with games on them you could play, as well as a section with arcade games & pinball machines. They also had a Tetris tournament going on.

    I thought it was cool to see everything there. I almost thought about buying an old console, such as a Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, or a TurboGrafX-16. I thought they all wanted too much money for them though. For instance, the ones who had a TurboGrafX-16 for sale, they were asking about $200 or $250. I checked eBay and saw some there for less (around $100 to $150 or so). Also, honestly I might not play them very often, and I already have several ways to play old console games via emulation (and often, emulation handhelds or even something like a custom Raspberry Pi setup would cost less than what people often ask for an old console). I think it would be cool to have some physical consoles though. Maybe if I can find some deals somewhere.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to Nightfox on Monday, September 30, 2024 14:08:13
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Sun Sep 29 2024 01:03 pm

    There's a retro gaming expo going on this weekend in the area where I live.

    Does anyone go to VCFs? I discovered the whole vintage computing thing several years ago... I have personally been into the hobby since those machines were just 'computers' instead of 'vintage computers.'

    I went to VCFSW in Dallas and VCFMW in Chicago last year, but was only able to attend VCFMW this year because of financial constraints.

    I did a Packet Radio exhibit at VCFMW both years, which was well-received. I sold a few of my Laser 128 Apple II clones this year, along with a black face ADAT machine that I used to use in my studio.

    I bought an Atari 800XL, an ADM-22 terminal, and brought home a couple of
    free G3 iMacs. I also found a RGB monitor for my Apple IIgs in the free pile, which turned out to be perfectly functional!

    The ADM-22 looks nice sitting on top of my Altair 8800 :)


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From halian@ABINARY to Belly on Tuesday, October 01, 2024 06:17:00
    There's a retro gaming expo going on this weekend in the area where I l

    Does anyone go to VCFs?

    I'd love to go to VCFSE (which is part of Southern Fried Gaming Expo), but I can't afford transportation to/from, and lodging in, Atlanta. :/

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Archaic Binary * bbs.archaicbinary.net
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to halian on Tuesday, October 01, 2024 19:58:05
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: halian to Belly on Tue Oct 01 2024 06:17 am

    I'd love to go to VCFSE (which is part of Southern Fried Gaming Expo), but I

    I haven't made it to VCFSE yet, which is strange as it's actually the closest to me. I know several who go every year, though.

    VCFMW is definitely the most fun that I have, mainly because it's a really relaxed atmosphere. A convention center and hotel full of old computers and drunk nerds! I even chatted to the front desk clerk about Sinclairs as I was checking in!


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to Belly on Monday, October 21, 2024 06:44:19
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Belly to Nightfox on Mon Sep 30 2024 02:08 pm

    I bought an Atari 800XL, an ADM-22

    Have you gotten on any Atari 8bit BBSes
    yet? :) area52.tk:5200

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to phigan on Monday, October 21, 2024 11:52:45
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to Belly on Mon Oct 21 2024 06:44 am

    I bought an Atari 800XL, an ADM-22
    Have you gotten on any Atari 8bit BBSes
    yet? :) area52.tk:5200

    I have not. I haven't even built a wifimodem for it yet. Too many things on the RL plate at the moment.


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to Belly on Tuesday, October 22, 2024 07:24:54
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Belly to phigan on Mon Oct 21 2024 11:52 am

    I have not. I haven't even built a
    wifimodem for it yet. Too many thing
    on the RL plate at the moment.

    Something that's super easy and cheap
    to build is an SIO2PC (not the original
    one) with a simple $2-3 FTDI interface
    board. One side goes to the Atari, the
    USB goes to a PC or Pi or whatever you
    have, and you run Fujinet-PC on that
    (or RespeQT or a handful of
    alternatives). But, there's also a
    regular/real Fujinet :).

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to phigan on Wednesday, October 23, 2024 12:47:55
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to Belly on Tue Oct 22 2024 07:24 am

    Something that's super easy and cheap
    to build is an SIO2PC (not the original
    one) with a simple $2-3 FTDI interface
    board. One side goes to the Atari, the
    USB goes to a PC or Pi or whatever you
    have, and you run Fujinet-PC on that
    (or RespeQT or a handful of
    alternatives). But, there's also a
    regular/real Fujinet :).

    What I typically do is use an ESP8266 with wifimodem firmware, since I have a drawer full of those things. The hardware is close to free and it emulates a Hayes modem. Fujinet is something on my list to look into, though, although the idea of having it tethered to a PC isn't appealing.


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From Bf2k+@TACOPRON to Belly on Thursday, October 24, 2024 03:29:22
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Belly to phigan on Wed Oct 23 2024 12:47 pm

    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to Belly on Tue Oct 22 2024 07:24 am

    a Hayes modem. Fujinet is something on my list to look into, though, although the idea of having it tethered to a PC isn't appealing.

    Fujinet does not have to be tethered to a PC. It can be 'connected' to your LAN wirelessly but even that doesn't have to happen.

    IMHO, the best thing about a Fujinet is the ability to connect your Atari 8 bit computer to ATASCII BBSes... like mine:

    bfbbs.no-ip.com : 8888

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to Bf2k+ on Thursday, October 24, 2024 18:14:06
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Bf2k+ to Belly on Thu Oct 24 2024 03:29 am

    IMHO, the best thing about a Fujinet is the ability to connect your Atari 8

    bfbbs.no-ip.com : 8888

    sounds like a wifimodem

    (yes, I know what Fujinet is)


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From phigan@TACOPRON to Belly on Thursday, October 24, 2024 21:35:01
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Belly to phigan on Wed Oct 23 2024 12:47 pm

    What I typically do is use an ESP8266 with wifimodem firmware, since I have drawer full of those things. The hardware is close to free and it emulates a Hayes modem. Fujinet is something on my list to look into, though, although

    Which firmware do you run on the ESP8266?

    The regular Fujinet does not connect to a PC. I was talking about using a PC (or other device) as a Fujinet with Fujinet-PC software.

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? GO TO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io
  • From Belly@BRAZINET to phigan on Friday, October 25, 2024 15:05:14
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: phigan to Belly on Thu Oct 24 2024 09:35 pm

    Which firmware do you run on the ESP8266?

    I'm at work now, but I believe it's this one: https://github.com/dhansel/WifiModem


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.brazi.net ■ www.brazi.net ■ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From hollowone@BEERS20 to Crushed on Monday, November 04, 2024 11:46:00

    https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1828195718970171656?t=6SZjiAK6-IWFEVtb A&s=08

    Over 400 hardware consoles connected to a single TV... someone has too much time/money on their hands!!!

    Welll.. admirable... and seriously worth Sheik's budget :)

    -h1

    ... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy.