Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

... It's amazing how much "mature wisdom" resembles being too tired. - RAH

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still
a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

This is so funny - I've just started archivebox.20ForBeers.com, a new Wayback Machine geared towards BBS/retro-computing and had archived the old rgbbs.info... I just archived the new one - and this is EXACTLY why I want to be in this [small] space.

I don't think we're going to be able to count on archive.org forever... and I intend to help, in a small way, make sure people remember both rgbbs.info sites - forever. ;P



|07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
|08.........

I don't think we're going to be able to count on archive.org forever... and intend to help, in a small way, make sure people remember both rgbbs.info sites - forever. ;P

WOOHOO. ;)

... When's the trial? - Right after the hanging...

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 07:27 pm

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

why you got all those old versions on there! ;]
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Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 07:27 pm

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

btw, where did you get this info about herrings? https://i.imgur.com/lYB5yfD.png

"with a deep hurtful feeling of trust issues"

herrings only contributed that time to fix an issue with renegade that
spence could not fix because he didn't couldn't program. mostly the y2k shit. Spence was also a fair weather friend to jeff and there was some issue where jeff gave him hardware and then spence ghosted him.
Now some of us know that patrick is now a TRANS who abandoned his family to be miri or whatever he calls himself. maybe this is somewhat related and patrick was reinventing himself during this time and cutting off all contact with people who knew him

Anyways, Jeff saw me complaining about the source of rg not being released ever and how it gets taken over by people that cant program all the time and he figured fuck it and released the source.

Jeff didn't care that anybody else was working on rg.
he figured that he didn't owe an oath to spence and there's no point in keeping it away from the bbs community.

I talked to him about it for an hour shortly after he released it.

This type of rewritten history is just typical for renegade's history.
You should just delete all of it and not have a "history".


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why you got all those old versions on there! ;]

Shits and giggles. ;)

... Yeah, but what's the speed of darkness...

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

btw, where did you get this info about herrings? https://i.imgur com/lYB5yfD.png

"with a deep hurtful feeling of trust issues"

When he telnetted here and was bitching before I told him how I got the code.

... Stationary mice have bigger balls.

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
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■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Re: Renegade
By: MRO to Exodus on Tue Nov 05 2024 02:20:42

herrings only contributed that time to fix an issue with renegade that spence could not fix because he didn't couldn't program. mostly the y2k shit. Spence was also a fair weather friend to jeff and there was some issue where jeff gave him hardware and then spence ghosted him. Now some of us know that patrick is now a TRANS who abandoned his family to be miri or whatever he calls himself. maybe this is somewhat related and patrick was reinventing himself during this time and cutting off all contact with people who knew him

Man you sure keep up with all the "Drama" in bbsing don't you??
---
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Re: Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to Mro on Tue Nov 05 2024 05:58 am

btw, where did you get this info about herrings? https://i.imgur com/lYB5yfD.png

"with a deep hurtful feeling of trust issues"

When he telnetted here and was bitching before I told him how I got the code.

well the code from rg gets passed around the same way all the time.
people take it over that cant program and then they try to find people to program for them.

I don't think the guy had deep hurtful feelings.
Plus he stopped working on it in 2001.

"From Jeff Herrings:

Hello everyone.

As I sit here, I find myself wondering if what I am about to say and do is perhaps either pre-mature or an honorable way to remember a great BBS
software. The fact of the matter is, I have been thinking this for quite sometime now and regardless of how many times I think this thought, I find myself coming up with the same answer(s).

When Cott Lang started Renegade BBS software, it was in my opinion as well
as many others I am sure, ahead of its time for any independent
programmer. Granted it might not have had a complex scripting language
(PCB for one) nor did it have it's own sharing/multi-tasking routines
(TBBS - The Bread Board System), however it did offer some of -the- best features with easily understandable configuration menus and at a price
that just could not be beat (for free).

Several years after Cott produced this fine software, he had made a
decision due to numerous reasons (no reason to go over -any- of them
again, no reason at -all-) to cease programming while he was still ahead
(or not). At this time the persistence of Patrick Spence and Gary Hall
paid off when Cott agreed to allow them to continue Renegade development.

A few more years went on, while Patrick and Gary were hard at work
ensuring updates were released, in which Renegade lived on. Unfortunately
(and as you'll soon see it happens) due to time restraints and other
things, the desire and opportunity for them to continue work on Renegade
was noticeably decreasing.

In my search for love of Renegade, I found there was no "Y2K" patch
currently available and I wondered why (I later found of the time
restraints and lacking desire). I emailed Patrick inquiring if my
assistance could be offered to help a "Y2K" patch be released before far
too long. He replied and at this time we worked out that I could then
carry the torch, with the many responsibilities, headaches, thrills and
sense of contribution that brought with it.

I was to say the least absolutely thrilled that after -many- years of contributing third party software for in my mind the best BBS software of
its kind, I could finally dive in and make updates and changes as I saw
fit. Those changes of course were always either implemented or thought
about with the best intentions in mind for all the Renegade BBS community.

However, they say history repeats itself and that it does. I find now,
more so in these past few weeks that I haven't the time nor desire to
continue work on Renegade BBS. The desire is not due to countless number
of emails (I am a bit glad I wasn't programming Renegade BBS during BBS
prime days of existence) I have received with pestering questions asking
the infamous "when is the next release, why are you taking so long, etc,
etc." (notice, I did NOT say the inquisitive emails, those I have never
minded what-so-ever), but instead that of respect for a once great BBS
software (which in my mind personally, will always be great), overwhelming family occurrences (some related to the repercussions of the most recent incidents against our country, mind you my wife is active military and is
as I type this in the middle of the ocean, where I do not know) and a
hectic move/business status.

So, out of respect for Renegade BBS (and those who contributed to it in
the past and present), those who used or use it and for myself... as of
today Sunday, October 7th, 2001 I bring the many chapters of Renegade BBS
to a close.

As always, I will continue to frequent BBS's via telnet and sometimes
dial-up whenever time permits. Those SysOp's that see me on their BBS's
know that I am usually on and off within a few minutes, though, I try to
make the best of those minutes, let it be via participation or just
nostalgic reasons.

With that said, I wish to thank EVERYONE that has ever been a part and/or
will continue to stay a part of the Renegade Community my best wishes in anything and everything you do BBS related or not. The time for me was enjoyable, very enjoyable time spent.

Sincerely,
Jeff Herrings

PS - I will continue to keep my word to Patrick Spence and in turn Cott
Lang by not offering the source code to anyone. I hope that you will only understand and accept this decision out of respect of both Patrick, Gary
and myself giving our word to never make it public domain/source.

PSS - I might add that even by the time I find that I am able to work on Renegade BBS (the completely re-vamped Windows/Unix flavor) other software suites that are currently available have such an edge, due to time of
existence and time to devote, that if I were to have ever or would ever
release this version, those other suites would have been one, two or quite possibly three steps ahead. This too was another, no matter how
insignificant, reason to lay Renegade BBS to rest.

"


he was probably curious how you got the code since spence was so protective of being the renegade guy for such a long time.
it was an ego thing.


here is spence's posting from 2000 talking about the handoff to Herrings:

"Patrick Spence, hands the reins of development of Renegade BBS Software to Jeff Herrings.

Reasons for giving up on Renegade, by Patrick Spence:

2000-01-16 Its that time.

I know I have said for the longest time that when I decided to quit
working on Renegade, that I would bury the source and there would be
no further work done. I have had a change of heart. I have selected
a sucker -ahem- fine programmer to replace me as active programmer.
Both my partner Gary and I have decided that we are going to start
working on newer projects, but don't want to see RG die.

The new programmer is named Jeff Herrings jeffh@ariven.com and he
will be taking over production and work on RG as of today.

Gary and I will still keep our hand in, as we are retaining copies
of the source code, and I will remain as someone who can answer Jeffs
questions about the code to help him get up to speed.

Now we get to the reasons....

1. I said from the beginning that I was working on the code for ME,
not for anyone else, and having rude people writing me because I
don't do things their way or at their speed is annoying. Well I
haven't run a bbs in over a year, so I guess updating a bbs
program that I don't use is not the way I want to spend my time.

2. I am disappointed in several people who volunteered to help. If
I can't get people to help test stuff, there is no point in
working on it either, since I can't catch all the bugs, nor can
I spend all my time working on a free program.

3. I have new ideas that I want to implement, that I cannot
implement in a dos programming world.

(The Above is copyright 2000 by Patrick Spence, All Rights Reserved)"


Here is jeff's 2005 posting:

"===============================================================
09/25/05 - I decided to fire up mTelnet and 'call' around a few BBS's that
I visited while I was active in Renegade programming as well as after I
had presumptiously laid Renegade to rest (Patrick Spence decided to allow another person a shot). My first visit was "Dreamland BBS", the SysOp
"dm" had been a longtime Renegade supporter, was an Renegade BBS Alpha
node back in the "hay day" and offered much assistance to me when I was
the Renegade programmer. Upon my visit to his BBS, I took notice he was running Mystic BBS (a nice BBS package, however, it seems the creator of
this package got the dreaded "BBS Programmers Flu"), astonished to say the least, I decided to visit the Mystic BBS website. Upon my visit there and reading that it's creator seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth,
I read a post by "grem" which read simply : "It's not like someone's going
to steal the source and get lots of money and fame by releasing their own Mystic-based BBS software. BBSs are long past those days. Even if nothing happens with the project after the source is released it's still not a
loss; nothing happens as it is anyway." -- I thought, "How true."

Before this goes further, I want to say this; I DID make a promise to
Patrick Spence to NOT release the source code. That out of the way, I did
make such promise indeed, however, it was under the impression we were on
a friendly and mutual relationship. Recently it seemed for whatever
reason, I was shunt out. I'm not a man of revenge and I'd like to think I
do not act immaturely, however, this "shunting" of sorts was enough for me
to consider that promise made years ago to be null void.

That brings us to the release of the Renegade BBS version Y2K (the first
Y2K compliant version of Renegade released by me - Jeff Herrings) Alpha revision 2 (the reason for the 2nd revision is an embarassing one...
simply, put; I compiled and "zipped up" the wrong directory of a 'version'
that still had obvious and ridiculous bugs in it, due to my excitement of releasing the first Renegade Y2K compliant version). I decided to upload
the source code to the "Dreamland BBS" first, then suffice to say, I
visited every and any BBS I could to ensure it was released and the word
got out.

Needless to say, upon visiting bbsdocumentary.com (which I often do and am still contemplating on purchasing the DVD's now or actually allow my wife
to purchase them for me as a present) today on 09/27/05, low-and-behold
the source code has already made it's way around [the world --
undoubtedly]. However, with the description of "Purported Renegade 2
Source." So I felt the need to clarify the reasons, blanks and confusion,
as well as confirm the source code that I released is authentic and
-should- compile with no issues (using Turbo Pascal 7.0 atleast).

It's time the world is allowed to have what was so ridiculously guarded
after it was obvious that the "BBS scene" was dying (for the lack of a
better word). The only reason I can come up with as to why any source
code to a FREE software would be kept "locked up" is because the
programmer (s) wish to keep the "recognition" that he/she/they are...
'THE' programmers (ie. arrogance). Aside from, of course, promises made
for software such as Renegade BBS, albeit, it is said, "Promises are made
to be broken." Releasing the source code is my LAST contribution to
Renegade (may many talented persons hopefully revive it and get it up to
speed - not to discredit the current programmers!) and simply... the
BBSers.
===============================================================
"

anyways, it seems like you're trying to bend the facts or worse.
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Man you sure keep up with all the "Drama" in bbsing don't you??

HA! We don't call him Mr. Professor for nothin'

... Burning houses simply helps keep me from going Sane, Doc.

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
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■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

I don't think the guy had deep hurtful feelings.
Plus he stopped working on it in 2001.

Dude, he was pissed. He telnetted in, started swearing all around how the hell did I get the code, he said no one would ever see Renegade again, blah blah blah.

You never see behind the scenes.

... Dusk lures like a lyre beckoning the quietude

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
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■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 07:27 pm

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

That looks pretty cool. :)

Nightfox

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■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

That looks pretty cool. :)

Thanks, just updated the sidebar to look a bit nicer. Still have to do the renegade info page yet. The css is screwing with it, so it may take me a bit to finish that last page.

... I would have got away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids!!

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Re: Re: Renegade
By: paulie420 to Exodus on Mon Nov 04 2024 19:06:00

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still
a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

This is so funny - I've just started archivebox.20ForBeers.com, a new Wayback Machine geared towards BBS/retro-computing and had
archived the old rgbbs.info... I just archived the new one - and this is EXACTLY why I want to be in this [small] space.

I don't think we're going to be able to count on archive.org forever... and I intend to help, in a small way, make sure people
remember both rgbbs.info sites - forever. ;P

I think you are right on the money. Archive.org often fails.

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Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 07:27 pm

Howdy,

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

It looks cool - nice work.


...δεσ∩

---
■ Synchronet ■ AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSI

Re: Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to Mro on Tue Nov 05 2024 04:08 pm

I don't think the guy had deep hurtful feelings.
Plus he stopped working on it in 2001.

Dude, he was pissed. He telnetted in, started swearing all around how the hell did I get the code, he said no one would ever see Renegade again, blah blah blah.

You never see behind the scenes.

what year was this?
he was done with rg and he didn't do much with it.

never see renegade again why?
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■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 19:27:22

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

Looks amazing, nice work!

---
■ Synchronet ■ Digital Rainbow - bbs.digitalrainbow.info

Re: Re: Renegade
By: paulie420 to Exodus on Mon Nov 04 2024 07:06 pm

I don't think we're going to be able to count on archive.org forever... and

100% agreed. Great idea on the archiving. Make sure to get all those super old sites with the obscure hardware infos :).

---
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work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

It looks cool - nice work.

Thanks.

... REAL programmers use "COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE"

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Plus he stopped working on it in 2001.

what year was this?
he was done with rg and he didn't do much with it.

2003-2004

... Def. of Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in.

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

I don't think we're going to be able to count on archive.org forever...

100% agreed. Great idea on the archiving. Make sure to get all those
super old sites with the obscure hardware infos :).

I will - but I need help. I'll be working on a 2oFB portal for users to add URLs, and users can request an account @ archivebox.20forbeers.com if they want to partake in adding URLs... I need what YOU love and care about.

Anything BBS or retro-computing related...



|07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
|08.........

Hello Exodus!

** On Monday 04.11.24 - 19:27, Exodus wrote to All:

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

FYI.. the site does not render with MyPal or Palemoon on my XP
pc.


--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)
■ Synchronet ■ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP

Re: Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to Mro on Wed Nov 06 2024 04:59 pm

Plus he stopped working on it in 2001.

what year was this?
he was done with rg and he didn't do much with it.

2003-2004

alright, if you say so. I dont think he was even involved with bbsing around that time. at that time he might have thought someone stole the code from patrick, though.

when i talked to him he seemed to not want to be involved in renegade from the start and he did his contribution and that was it. I don't think he ever wanted to be the full time rg developer and deal with all the issues, old and new.
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FYI.. the site does not render with MyPal or Palemoon on my XP
pc.

Figured as much. I've only tested it with Firefox, Chrome, and Edge. It looks best with Firefox.

... Klingon DOS 6.0- DEL.COM; ERASE.COM; WIPE.COM; TRASH.EXE; BURN.BAT;

--- Renegade v1.35/DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (723:1/4)
■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

Re: Renegade
By: Ogg to Exodus on Wed Nov 06 2024 06:09 pm

Hello Exodus!

** On Monday 04.11.24 - 19:27, Exodus wrote to All:

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give it a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

FYI.. the site does not render with MyPal or Palemoon on my XP
pc.

yeah dude but that's something to bring up with your mypal developers.
they might welcome the information so they can fix it.
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■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

Hello MRO!

FYI.. the site does not render with MyPal or Palemoon on my XP
pc.

yeah dude but that's something to bring up with your mypal developers.
they might welcome the information so they can fix it.

No big deal. But I do find it ironic that that a "modern" OS
and "latest browsers" are needed to observe a site that is
designed to look like something from the 80's. :D

Although I still use MyPal for better performance with certain
sites, I've basically migrated to PaleMoon since it's the only
one that can handle the newfangled java crap at bookmanager.com
and thehub.harpercollins.com. I doubt that the folks at MyPal
would bother to fix it.

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)
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Re: something to bring up with your mypal developers
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Nov 07 2024 07:44 pm

yeah dude but that's something to bring up with your mypal developers. they might welcome the information so they can fix it.

No big deal. But I do find it ironic that that a "modern" OS
and "latest browsers" are needed to observe a site that is
designed to look like something from the 80's. :D

Although I still use MyPal for better performance with certain
sites, I've basically migrated to PaleMoon since it's the only
one that can handle the newfangled java crap at bookmanager.com
and thehub.harpercollins.com. I doubt that the folks at MyPal
would bother to fix it.

you should make a ticket and let them know.

regarding exodus' site, what freaks it out? all those div, and various 'class' codes?
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Re: Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to Ogg on Thu Nov 07 2024 06:00 am

Figured as much. I've only tested it with Firefox, Chrome, and Edge. It looks best with Firefox.

Tsk tsk! You should always check your websites with lynx/links :D.

No? Maybe w3m?

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On Thu, Nov 07 2024 18:44:00 -0600, you wrote:

Although I still use MyPal for better performance with certain
sites, I've basically migrated to PaleMoon since it's the only
one that can handle the newfangled java crap at bookmanager.com
and thehub.harpercollins.com. I doubt that the folks at MyPal
would bother to fix it.

This is odd. I just did the complete opposite on my XP VM (switched from Palemoon to MyPal) because Palemoon didn't handle half of the sites I
visited, yet Mypal did.

FYI, both of the two addresses you posted look fine to me in MyPal (I
didn't bother creating an account or logging in to the second one, but
the intro and everything up to the login window worked fine).

Regards,
Nick

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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￭ Synchronet ￭ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)

On Thu, Nov 07 2024 18:44:00 -0600, you wrote:

No big deal. But I do find it ironic that that a "modern" OS
and "latest browsers" are needed to observe a site that is
designed to look like something from the 80's. :D

FYI, I also tested rgbbs.info in both MyPal on a WinXP VM, as well as
Firefox on my Windows 11 PC, and they both act the exact same.

The right box (whether it be WHATDONE.TXT or any of the other ones on
the other links) does go over the top of the left box(es) on both, when
you're using your browser on half of a standard size screen resolution.

If you up your resolution to something more than 800x600 or whatever XP installs stock with, and widen your browser to more than half of your
screen, it should display fine. I'm using 1920x1080p on my XP VM, and 2560x1440 on my Windows 11 PC, for the record. My guess is that you
could probably go a bit less than what I have on my XP VM, since I
didn't have to widen the browser the whole width of the screen in order
for it to display correctly.

Regards,
Nick

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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Re: Renegade
By: Exodus to All on Mon Nov 04 2024 19:27:22

Updated the Renegade BBS website to make it more "DOS-like". Still a work in progress. Give
it
a look.

https://www.rgbbs.info

Looks cool. I like the boot screen at the start.

what are you using to integrate the telent from the web?

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■ Synchronet ■ Lunar Outpost BBS

Hello Accession!

FYI, I also tested rgbbs.info in both MyPal on a WinXP VM, as well as Firefox on my Windows 11 PC, and they both act the exact same.

Something started to work. It seems to be cooperating with
Palemoon now:

https://ibb.co/VQj10k4

I did have to zoom out quite a bit! It's best on a large screen
I guess. Mine screen is 4:3 1400x1050 on a T60. Maybe move
the Navigation menu to operate across the top of the screen,
and that will reduce the need to have your site zoomed out.

And for what it' worth, MyPal is ok with it now too. Hmmmm.


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Re: Re: something to bring up with your mypal developers
By: Accession to Ogg on Fri Nov 08 2024 01:57 pm

On Thu, Nov 07 2024 18:44:00 -0600, you wrote:

Although I still use MyPal for better performance with certain
sites, I've basically migrated to PaleMoon since it's the only
one that can handle the newfangled java crap at bookmanager.com
and thehub.harpercollins.com. I doubt that the folks at MyPal
would bother to fix it.

This is odd. I just did the complete opposite on my XP VM (switched from Palemoon to MyPal) because Palemoon didn't handle half of the sites I visited, yet Mypal did.

FYI, both of the two addresses you posted look fine to me in MyPal (I
didn't bother creating an account or logging in to the second one, but
the intro and everything up to the login window worked fine).

yeah i downloaded mypal. The site shows up the same as other browsers. I think ogg has problems with his system.

Also https://renegadebbs.net/ shows up fine in the browser.
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Hello Accession!

** On Friday 08.11.24 - 13:57, Accession wrote to Ogg:

Although I still use MyPal for better performance with certain
sites, I've basically migrated to PaleMoon since it's the only
one that can handle the newfangled java crap at bookmanager.com
and thehub.harpercollins.com. I doubt that the folks at MyPal
would bother to fix it.

[...]

FYI, both of the two addresses you posted look fine to me in MyPal (I didn't bother creating an account or logging in to the second one, but
the intro and everything up to the login window worked fine).

The bookmanager site should have a "LOGIN" button at the top
right. With MyPal it does not show for me.

The harpercollins site should produce a login pop-up. It does
not with MyPal.

BTW.. MyPal 29.3.0 here.

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Looks cool. I like the boot screen at the start.

what are you using to integrate the telent from the web?

fTelnet

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Hello Ogg,

On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 09:32:00 -0500, you wrote to me:

FYI, both of the two addresses you posted look fine to me in MyPal (I
didn't bother creating an account or logging in to the second one, but
the intro and everything up to the login window worked fine).

The bookmanager site should have a "LOGIN" button at the top
right. With MyPal it does not show for me.

Definitely shows for me.

The harpercollins site should produce a login pop-up. It does
not with MyPal.

This also works fine here.

BTW.. MyPal 29.3.0 here.

Might be time to upgrade. It looks I'm using 64.14.4b (32-bit) portable.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Accession!

The bookmanager site should have a "LOGIN" button at the top
right. With MyPal it does not show for me.

Definitely shows for me.

The harpercollins site should produce a login pop-up. It does
not with MyPal.

This also works fine here.

BTW.. MyPal 29.3.0 here.

Might be time to upgrade. It looks I'm using 64.14.4b (32-bit) portable.

Well.. THAT's interesting. I thought 29.3.0 was the last one
that supported native XP. Dunno, but maybe your XP VM can
support a later version?

I'll look for 64.14.4b and give that a try. Thx.



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Hello Ogg,

On Sat, Nov 09 2024 18:26:00 -0600, you wrote:

Well.. THAT's interesting. I thought 29.3.0 was the last one
that supported native XP. Dunno, but maybe your XP VM can
support a later version?

I'll look for 64.14.4b and give that a try. Thx.

Maybe you're confusing that with Palemoon, as they went on to support
more Windows versions. IIRC, Mypal is strictly /for/ XP. So give the
latest version a try and see if it works.

I believe I have the "portable" one, so there is no installer, just a
zip file containing an exe and maybe a few other files.

Regards,
Nick

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