• I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    From Deavmi@EWBBS to DOVE-Net.Unix on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 21:03:14
    I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    The reason for doing this is because as a developer I need the latest available packages and Parabola (being an Arch-based distribution) has
    this wonderful gift. I just checked tonight that the version of python
    tney have available on their package server is the same as the latest
    version available from python.org; so that's great.

    I will be learning how to use the package manager, pacman, tonight as I
    have always been an apt-get guy.

    Anyway. I will write in on my progress with using the system by replying
    to this post. Going to spin up a VM tonight with the latest image of
    Parabola and see how things go.


    Trisquel will always be in my heart but because I can now get the latest available packages I see no reason to go back to it really.

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  • From jagossel@KK4QBN to Deavmi on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 18:28:40
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.Unix on Wed Dec 14 2016 09:03 pm

    I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    The reason for doing this is because as a developer I need the latest available packages and Parabola (being an Arch-based distribution) has
    this wonderful gift. I just checked tonight that the version of python
    tney have available on their package server is the same as the latest version available from python.org; so that's great.

    I will be learning how to use the package manager, pacman, tonight as I
    have always been an apt-get guy.

    I would be interested to see what your thoughts are on Parabola GNU/Linux. I just looked at it briefly (just their website) and I see that AUR is not supported; which is interesting for it being a variant of Arch Linux.

    For me, I would like to have access to the AUR to get packages that Arch Linux does not have available on their mainstream repositories; probably why Manjaro works out well for me.

    For me being a former RPM person, I kind of find it weird to use pacman for a while.

    To install: pacman --sync seamonkey
    To update the package cache: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh

    No, that is not a typo or an accidential repeat. The "refresh" parameter has to be included twice. And yes, at least for Arch Linux and Manjaro, package cache will need to be updated from time to time (otherwise, you might get a 404 error).

    Oh, and to update all of the packages: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh --sysupgrade

    That command will update the package cach and then performan the updates against all of the packages.

    Yea... Pacman is interesting, and it looks like Parabola GNU/Linux has their own series of packages that are (what I gathered glacing at their site) supposed to be libre.

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  • From Accession@PHARCYDE to jagossel on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 20:28:42
    Hello jagossel,

    On 14 Dec 16 18:28, jagossel wrote to Deavmi:

    To install: pacman --sync seamonkey

    pacman -S seamonkey, does the same thing.

    Oh, and to update all of the packages: pacman --sync --refresh
    --refresh --sysupgrade

    pacman -Syu, will do the same thing. No need to type everything out.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Deavmi@EWBBS to jagossel on Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:19:45
    On 2016-12-15 01:28 AM, jagossel wrote:
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.Unix on Wed Dec 14 2016 09:03 pm

    I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    The reason for doing this is because as a developer I need the latest available packages and Parabola (being an Arch-based distribution) has this wonderful gift. I just checked tonight that the version of python tney have available on their package server is the same as the latest version available from python.org; so that's great.

    I will be learning how to use the package manager, pacman, tonight as I have always been an apt-get guy.

    I would be interested to see what your thoughts are on Parabola GNU/Linux. I just looked at it briefly (just their website) and I see that AUR is not supported; which is interesting for it being a variant of Arch Linux.

    For me, I would like to have access to the AUR to get packages that Arch Linux
    does not have available on their mainstream repositories; probably why Manjaro
    works out well for me.

    For me being a former RPM person, I kind of find it weird to use pacman for a while.

    To install: pacman --sync seamonkey
    To update the package cache: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh

    No, that is not a typo or an accidential repeat. The "refresh" parameter has to be included twice. And yes, at least for Arch Linux and Manjaro, package cache will need to be updated from time to time (otherwise, you might get a 404
    error).

    Oh, and to update all of the packages: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh --sysupgrade

    That command will update the package cach and then performan the updates against all of the packages.

    Yea... Pacman is interesting, and it looks like Parabola GNU/Linux has their own series of packages that are (what I gathered glacing at their site) supposed to be libre.

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    Yeah. Parabola GNU/Linux is completely libre and only has libre packages
    on their package repositories.

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  • From Deavmi@EWBBS to jagossel on Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:20:26
    On 2016-12-15 01:28 AM, jagossel wrote:
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.Unix on Wed Dec 14 2016 09:03 pm

    I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    The reason for doing this is because as a developer I need the latest available packages and Parabola (being an Arch-based distribution) has this wonderful gift. I just checked tonight that the version of python tney have available on their package server is the same as the latest version available from python.org; so that's great.

    I will be learning how to use the package manager, pacman, tonight as I have always been an apt-get guy.

    I would be interested to see what your thoughts are on Parabola GNU/Linux. I just looked at it briefly (just their website) and I see that AUR is not supported; which is interesting for it being a variant of Arch Linux.

    For me, I would like to have access to the AUR to get packages that Arch Linux
    does not have available on their mainstream repositories; probably why Manjaro
    works out well for me.

    For me being a former RPM person, I kind of find it weird to use pacman for a while.

    To install: pacman --sync seamonkey
    To update the package cache: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh

    No, that is not a typo or an accidential repeat. The "refresh" parameter has to be included twice. And yes, at least for Arch Linux and Manjaro, package cache will need to be updated from time to time (otherwise, you might get a 404
    error).

    Oh, and to update all of the packages: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh --sysupgrade

    That command will update the package cach and then performan the updates against all of the packages.

    Yea... Pacman is interesting, and it looks like Parabola GNU/Linux has their own series of packages that are (what I gathered glacing at their site) supposed to be libre.

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    I have never seen such a weird package manager until now.

    I come from apt-get you know, so yeah. Even yum or dnf is fine but wow, pacman, from what you've shown me is frikken weird.

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  • From Deavmi@EWBBS to Deavmi on Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:46:36
    On 2016-12-15 10:20 AM, Deavmi wrote:
    On 2016-12-15 01:28 AM, jagossel wrote:
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.Unix on Wed Dec 14 2016 09:03 pm

    I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.

    The reason for doing this is because as a developer I need the latest
    available packages and Parabola (being an Arch-based distribution) has
    this wonderful gift. I just checked tonight that the version of python
    tney have available on their package server is the same as the latest
    version available from python.org; so that's great.

    I will be learning how to use the package manager, pacman, tonight
    as I
    have always been an apt-get guy.

    I would be interested to see what your thoughts are on Parabola
    GNU/Linux. I
    just looked at it briefly (just their website) and I see that AUR is not
    supported; which is interesting for it being a variant of Arch Linux.

    For me, I would like to have access to the AUR to get packages that
    Arch Linux
    does not have available on their mainstream repositories; probably why
    Manjaro
    works out well for me.

    For me being a former RPM person, I kind of find it weird to use
    pacman for a
    while.

    To install: pacman --sync seamonkey
    To update the package cache: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh

    No, that is not a typo or an accidential repeat. The "refresh"
    parameter has
    to be included twice. And yes, at least for Arch Linux and Manjaro,
    package
    cache will need to be updated from time to time (otherwise, you might
    get a 404
    error).

    Oh, and to update all of the packages: pacman --sync --refresh --refresh
    --sysupgrade

    That command will update the package cach and then performan the updates
    against all of the packages.

    Yea... Pacman is interesting, and it looks like Parabola GNU/Linux has
    their
    own series of packages that are (what I gathered glacing at their site)
    supposed to be libre.

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    Chatsworth GA US

    I have never seen such a weird package manager until now.

    I come from apt-get you know, so yeah. Even yum or dnf is fine but wow, pacman, from what you've shown me is frikken weird.
    I know what I will be studying today. :)

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  • From jagossel@KK4QBN to Accession on Thursday, December 15, 2016 06:34:16
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Accession to jagossel on Wed Dec 14 2016 08:28 pm

    pacman -S seamonkey, does the same thing.

    pacman -Syu, will do the same thing. No need to type everything out.

    Good point; in my case, I am used to typing everything out and I completely forgot about the short-hand version of those parameters.

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  • From jagossel@KK4QBN to Deavmi on Thursday, December 15, 2016 06:38:56
    Re: Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Deavmi to jagossel on Thu Dec 15 2016 10:20 am

    I have never seen such a weird package manager until now.

    I come from apt-get you know, so yeah. Even yum or dnf is fine but wow, pacman, from what you've shown me is frikken weird.

    As Accession pointed out, there are short-hand versions as well:
    - -S for installing
    - -Syu for upgrading

    I am used to typing out the longer version of parameters for my benefit. I mean, honestly, I still unarchive TAR.GZ files like this: tar --verbose --gzip --extract --file sometarball.tar.gz

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  • From Accession@PHARCYDE to jagossel on Thursday, December 15, 2016 08:38:12
    Hello jagossel,

    On 15 Dec 16 06:38, jagossel wrote to Deavmi:

    I come from apt-get you know, so yeah. Even yum or dnf is fine but
    wow, pacman, from what you've shown me is frikken weird.

    It's only wierd if you allow it to be. :)

    As Accession pointed out, there are short-hand versions as well:
    - -S for installing
    - -Syu for upgrading

    I am used to typing out the longer version of parameters for my
    benefit. I mean, honestly, I still unarchive TAR.GZ files like this:
    tar --verbose --gzip --extract --file sometarball.tar.gz

    tar -xvjpf <filename>

    As you can probably tell by now, I like making things easy on myself. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
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  • From Deavmi@EWBBS to jagossel on Thursday, December 15, 2016 20:09:40
    On 2016-12-15 01:34 PM, jagossel wrote:
    Re: I have decided to switch to Parabola GNU/Linux.
    By: Accession to jagossel on Wed Dec 14 2016 08:28 pm

    pacman -S seamonkey, does the same thing.

    pacman -Syu, will do the same thing. No need to type everything out.

    Good point; in my case, I am used to typing everything out and I completely forgot about the short-hand version of those parameters.

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    I understand now how the system works. It is quite elegant actually.

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