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Subject: Can't Browse After FreshInstall
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 17:32:50 -0000 (UTC)
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This is a Dell E510, 32 bit, which came with the OEM (Orange) "Windows
Media Center 2005 Edition with Update Rollup 2". At some point in it's
life, Windows 7, and then Windows 7 Ultimate was installed (upgrades).
Things went south after that, and the machine was put into storage for
about a year and a half.

Last night, I decided to resurect the machine, and do a fresh install of
the original XP Media Center,

Here's the problem.

Internet Explorer 6 was installed. When launched it takes me to
www.MSN.com, and I can click on the links on that page, but I have to
stay within the MSN domain. If I try to go elsewhere, such as www.google.com,, I get "You are about to view pages over a secure connection...and if I hit OK, I get "The page cannot be displayed...".

Using cmd.exe, I can ping yahoo, google, etc., and I get proper IPs.

Also, I set up Outlook Express 6 and I can access all my email just
fine.

This must be a browser problem (IE 6), but I can't reach Windows Update
to get it upgraded.

Any way to install a browser on a USB drive and use to reach Windows
Update? Other ideas?

Thanks
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Subject: Re: Can't Browse After FreshInstall
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Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:XnsA6DC615B9B13Dnospamnospaminvalid@213.239.209.88:

This is a Dell E510, 32 bit, which came with the OEM (Orange) "Windows
Media Center 2005 Edition with Update Rollup 2". At some point in

it's

life, Windows 7, and then Windows 7 Ultimate was installed (upgrades). Things went south after that, and the machine was put into storage for
about a year and a half.

Last night, I decided to resurect the machine, and do a fresh install

of

the original XP Media Center,

Here's the problem.

Internet Explorer 6 was installed. When launched it takes me to www.MSN.com, and I can click on the links on that page, but I have to
stay within the MSN domain. If I try to go elsewhere, such as www.google.com,, I get "You are about to view pages over a secure connection...and if I hit OK, I get "The page cannot be displayed...".

Using cmd.exe, I can ping yahoo, google, etc., and I get proper IPs.

Also, I set up Outlook Express 6 and I can access all my email just
fine.

This must be a browser problem (IE 6), but I can't reach Windows

Update

to get it upgraded.

Any way to install a browser on a USB drive and use to reach Windows
Update? Other ideas?

Thanks

Aportable version of FireFox worked. I can now browse.
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I use wsusoffline.net to grab a newer IE8 so that stuff works (necessary when reinstalling XP - use v 9.21 for that). Probably windows 7 is under some category as
well.

Save it to a USB stick for for next time using a working machine.
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Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> on 2016/12/12 wrote:

This is a Dell E510, 32 bit, which came with the OEM (Orange) "Windows
Media Center 2005 Edition with Update Rollup 2". At some point in it's life, Windows 7, and then Windows 7 Ultimate was installed (upgrades). Things went south after that, and the machine was put into storage for
about a year and a half.

Last night, I decided to resurect the machine, and do a fresh install of
the original XP Media Center,

Here's the problem.

Internet Explorer 6 was installed. When launched it takes me to www.MSN.com, and I can click on the links on that page, but I have to
stay within the MSN domain. If I try to go elsewhere, such as www.google.com,, I get "You are about to view pages over a secure connection...and if I hit OK, I get "The page cannot be displayed...".

Using cmd.exe, I can ping yahoo, google, etc., and I get proper IPs.

Also, I set up Outlook Express 6 and I can access all my email just
fine.

This must be a browser problem (IE 6), but I can't reach Windows Update
to get it upgraded.

Any way to install a browser on a USB drive and use to reach Windows
Update? Other ideas?

What security software do you use? Some provide HTTPS web traffic interrogation to check for malicious content or blacklisted off-domain
sources. To do the HTTPS web inspection means they have to perform a man-in-the-middle (MITM) scheme to intercept the encrypted traffic. To
inspect the traffic means having to decode it to read it. They have to
install a certificate in your local certificate store (or in the private
cert store of Firefox if you use that web browser) to they can pretend
to the client (web browser) that they are the endpoint to which you
intended to connect while pretending to the real endpoint that they are
the client. If their cert has been corrupted, expired, or revoked then
it is no longer usable. You need to get their cert re-installed or get
a new one if the old one expired (or somehow got revoked). This is also
how companies can intercept HTTPS from their employees to deploy
censorware or otherwise monitor what type of traffic their employees are generating.

If you disable HTTPS scanning in your anti-virus software, if it has it,
does HTTPS then work okay? Do you use a 3rd party firewall? Have you
tried running IE in its safe mode which does NOT load any add-ons you
installed into it?

SSL/TLS connects are not using the HTTPS protocol. That's assuming you
even configured your e-mail client to use SSL/TLS. Also, SSL/TLS is
used only to encrypt the handshaking in which the login credentials are
passed from client to server. The rest of the traffic is not encrypted
hence why you need to employ seperate encryption to your messages if you
don't want them intercepted.

Ping, traceroute, and other such tools aren't using SSL/TLS and they are
not using HTTP (to then use HTTPS).
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