• New hobby

    From Digital Man to All on Friday, January 05, 2001 05:21:50
    I got "into" a new hobby over the past month. Check out www.zagi.com. It's a blast!

    Rob
  • From Amcleod to Digital Man on Friday, January 05, 2001 07:18:01
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to All on Fri Jan 05 2001 01:21 pm

    I got "into" a new hobby over the past month. Check out www.zagi.com. It's a blast!

    Hey, this looks cool! I've a sorta been interested in this for a while. (Not Zagi specifically, but...)
  • From Spaceman Spiff to Digital Man on Friday, January 05, 2001 12:10:28
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to All on Fri Jan 05 2001 01:21 pm

    I got "into" a new hobby over the past month. Check out www.zagi.com. It's a blast!

    Rob
    Very cool, Rob. If you get into it heavy, you may want to consider getting the NO-CODE HAM Technician License, a lot of guys into remote control planes get the HAM ticket just to use some HAM freqs for remote control operation.
    A guy as smart as you could study the Tech manual and pass the test in a week. Several of our local HAM are heavy into flying planes, in fact I remeber the one guy talking about going out to help look for a downed aircraft on a conversation on 2 meters. A couple guys thought he was talking about a real plane until he explained it was an RC aircraft. They put a radio beacon in them helps to triangilate on them when they are lost in the woods or fields.
    The price doesn't look to bad.
    When I was younger, my brother and I used to fly the little gas planes with the control wires, I crashed a few those in my day. hehe.

    One of the HAMs I know had a nice RC Helicopter, well till he brought it in to fast. Ouch.

    These little electric models look pretty cool.
    Which one did you get?
    I am looking at the page now.
  • From Digital Man to Spaceman Spiff on Friday, January 05, 2001 18:57:23
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Spaceman Spiff to Digital Man on Fri Jan 05 2001 08:10 pm

    These little electric models look pretty cool.
    Which one did you get?
    I am looking at the page now.

    I got my brother a Zagi-3C for Christmas, helped him build it and just fell in love with the thing. But I don't live near a slope, so I bought the 400-X (electric powered) and have crashed it every time I've flown it (first time in a very tall tree, second day in the middle of a lake). The thing is so tough though, it just bounces right back (the lake water fried the receiver and the speed controller though). Anyway, I bought a 3C for myself after I heard of a near-by popular slope (called Glider Hill), but I haven't built it yet.

    The best prices are at Hobby People (http://www.hobbypeople.net). I paid $49 for the 3C, $129 for the 400-X and $65 for the tx/rx and servos. The 400-X ends up being a lot more expensive though since you need to buy a charger and extra batteries and micro servos, etc. But it's been a blast (well worth it). I think a glider would be a better choice for a first time flyer (like me). You just need to find a slope to fly on. :-)

    Rob
  • From Amcleod to Digital Man on Friday, January 05, 2001 21:38:16
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Spaceman Spiff on Sat Jan 06 2001 02:57 am

    I got my brother a Zagi-3C for Christmas, helped him build it and just fell love with the thing. But I don't live near a slope, so I bought the 400-X (electric powered) and have crashed it every time I've flown it (first time a very tall tree, second day in the middle of a lake). The thing is so tough though, it just bounces right back (the lake water fried the receiver and th speed controller though). Anyway, I bought a 3C for myself after I heard of near-by popular slope (called Glider Hill), but I haven't built it yet.

    The first thing I'd have to do is learn how to fly. That means an INDESTRUCTABLE aeroplane with only limited controls to master. When you have to order it from overseas, hope it makes the journey down here uninjured, build it, and then look for somewhere HARD to crash it, you want it to withstand minor problems like being run over bu a Hino or nose-diving into a barbed wire fence!

    I built a balsa/monokote slope-soarer/thermaller some years ago. I used a long bungee cord (Hi-start?) which worked BEAUTIFULLY to get it up to about 120 feet. Then it tipped over and put the nose down....

    Pretty tough stuff, that monokote. Balsa - not quite as tough. :-/
  • From Digital Man to Amcleod on Saturday, January 06, 2001 08:55:42
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Digital Man on Sat Jan 06 2001 05:38 am

    I got my brother a Zagi-3C for Christmas, helped him build it and just fe love with the thing. But I don't live near a slope, so I bought the 400-X (electric powered) and have crashed it every time I've flown it (first ti a very tall tree, second day in the middle of a lake). The thing is so to though, it just bounces right back (the lake water fried the receiver and speed controller though). Anyway, I bought a 3C for myself after I heard near-by popular slope (called Glider Hill), but I haven't built it yet.

    The first thing I'd have to do is learn how to fly. That means an INDESTRUCTABLE aeroplane with only limited controls to master. When you hav to order it from overseas, hope it makes the journey down here uninjured, bu it, and then look for somewhere HARD to crash it, you want it to withstand minor problems like being run over bu a Hino or nose-diving into a barbed wi fence!

    Yeah, I've been flying (three times now) at the park across the street from my house. There's a lake and many small tress to avoid, but today I managed TWO, count them, TWO perfect flights where I powered up to about 500 feet or so and then glided down for a perfect landing. Then on my third flight, I cracked it up pretty good (full power nose into the ground). Need to go buy a new receiver now (busted the PCB in half) and do some rebuilding, but these things are pretty damn tough all things considered. The glider-only versions are more durable I imagine as they are about 50% lighter and you wouldn't be powering into the ground like I have been. :-)

    I built a balsa/monokote slope-soarer/thermaller some years ago. I used a l bungee cord (Hi-start?) which worked BEAUTIFULLY to get it up to about 120 feet. Then it tipped over and put the nose down....

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can hi-start a Zagi too. But since mine has a prop I haven't needed to. :-)

    Pretty tough stuff, that monokote. Balsa - not quite as tough. :-/

    These planes are a single wing made entirely of foam (100% expanded poly-propolene in the 3C glider) and I've had no problems with the wing, but the balsa elevons have both cracked (they seem to work fine taped back together, however).

    If you're at all interested in this hobby, I highly recommend the Zagi's as they're realatively inexpensive, durable, easy to build, and fun!

    Rob
  • From Amcleod to Digital Man on Saturday, January 06, 2001 13:18:41
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Amcleod on Sat Jan 06 2001 04:55 pm

    If you're at all interested in this hobby, I highly recommend the Zagi's as they're realatively inexpensive, durable, easy to build, and fun!

    I dunno. Maybe I should buy a Zagi 3C and just pound it to bits learning to fly. Then I could decide whether I wanted to move on to something a little more elaborate or just give it up as a bad idea depending on crash-history.

    Did you say you had bought one of these? How big a box does it come in? (I've gotta ship it to mid-atlantic, after all!)

    I think ORANGE is the colour to pick in case she goes down in a cane-field!
  • From Digital Man to Amcleod on Saturday, January 06, 2001 16:26:14
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Digital Man on Sat Jan 06 2001 09:18 pm

    If you're at all interested in this hobby, I highly recommend the Zagi's they're realatively inexpensive, durable, easy to build, and fun!

    I dunno. Maybe I should buy a Zagi 3C and just pound it to bits learning to fly. Then I could decide whether I wanted to move on to something a little more elaborate or just give it up as a bad idea depending on crash-history.

    Did you say you had bought one of these? How big a box does it come in? (I gotta ship it to mid-atlantic, after all!)

    Yes, I've bought two 3C's already (one for my brother for Christmas, and one for myself which I haven't built yet). All the Zagi's come in a box that is roughly 29x12x4". The radio (transmitter, receiver, and servos) comes in a separate box that is 12x8x4". I'm not sure if they'd be bundled together in a box or what-not. The boxes are pretty light too.

    I think ORANGE is the colour to pick in case she goes down in a cane-field!

    Yeah. They (Trick R/C) sells a "mars locator" beeper thing for that purpose too. :-)

    Rob
  • From Pistolgrip to Amcleod on Sunday, January 07, 2001 07:11:45
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Digital Man on Sat Jan 06 2001 05:38 am

    OTE: TIDE 1.10 [UNREGISTERED]
    love with the thing. But I don't live near a slope, so I bought the 400-X (electric powered) and have crashed it every time I've flown it (first ti a very tall tree, second day in the middle of a lake). The thing is so to though, it just bounces right back (the lake water fried the receiver and speed controller though). Anyway, I bought a 3C for myself after I heard near-by popular slope (called Glider Hill), but I haven't built it yet.

    The first thing I'd have to do is learn how to fly. That means an INDESTRUCTABLE aeroplane with only limited controls to master. When you hav to order it from overseas, hope it makes the journey down here uninjured, bu it, and then look for somewhere HARD to crash it, you want it to withstand minor problems like being run over bu a Hino or nose-diving into a barbed wi fence!

    Learning to fly is not too terribly difficult. I think those 'zagi'
    planes are a great place to start, they look very durable. I havn't
    flown R/C in many years, but I was quite heavily into both R/C planes
    and R/C cars in my younger years. I even had a sponsorship by Team
    Associated and traveled all over for car races. There is a
    considerable amount of fun in building and rebuilding planes. Not to
    mention th satisfaction of actually taking one up and bringing it down
    in one piece :)

    I used to go to all the shows and meetings around here and some of the
    stuff those guys would bring and fly amazed me. The coolest probably
    being a scaled-down F15 complete with real miniature jet engines, he
    had to get clearance to fly the thing if he was within a certain
    distance of an airfield :-)

    I've been thinking of breaking open the 'fly-box' again lately and I
    think maybe I'll pickup one of the Zagi 400's to get used to flying
    again. I've still got two old gas powered trainers, but I don't want
    to tear them up yet again until I *think* I know how fly somewhat
    again. I've been taking lessons in a real cessna over the last year
    and I dunno if that will help or hurt at this point.

    What TX/RX and servos are recommended for zagi's planes? I've got a
    couple older sticks and servos, but I'm not sure if they will work.

    PG

  • From Amcleod to Pistolgrip on Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:16:59
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Pistolgrip to Amcleod on Sun Jan 07 2001 03:11 pm

    The first thing I'd have to do is learn how to fly.

    Learning to fly is not too terribly difficult. I think those 'zagi'
    planes are a great place to start, they look very durable.

    The Zagi 3C looks like an ideal starter. Foamed construction, carbon-fibre spars, etc make it look tough. Only $45 for the airframe so if you total it, or after a few flights decide this isn't for uou after all, you have not blown the mortgage. They have what they say is a suitable radio for what. $65? That is just over $100 and you're in the air, and that's pretty good.

    It was apparently built for "combat" flying where you deliberately mid-air collide trying to knock your opponent into the ground. I think that it would have to be pretty tough!

    BAD NEWS on this hobby here though. Aparently, anything that flies (kites, R/C, anything!) within 25 miles of an International Airport falls under the control of The Ministry of Pointy Things That Whizz Past Without Touching The Ground. And this country is so small that the ENTIRE COUNTRY is within 25 miles of the airport. Therefore, you can't import a plane or a radio unless you have the support of one of the three R/C clubs in the island. They will OK the purchase of certain "trainer" aircraft, and watch over you while you learn to fly, before finally allowing you to buy/build/fly _any_ old thing. All flying must be done at one of the designated flying "spots" and they aren't interested in unpowered or electric aircraft. That means, you start with a powered trainer and go from there.

    Frankly, I've always been interested in this sport, but I am _NOT_ interested in _starting_off_ with an expensive powered plane and about 3,000 in necessary accessories just to learn whether I really want to persue it!

    So it looks like I'll be doing some SMUGGLING in the near future. Do you think I could get a 2-Meter sailplane in my hand-luggage?
  • From Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Sunday, January 07, 2001 16:11:27
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Pistolgrip to Amcleod on Sun Jan 07 2001 03:11 pm

    I've been thinking of breaking open the 'fly-box' again lately and I
    think maybe I'll pickup one of the Zagi 400's to get used to flying
    again. I've still got two old gas powered trainers, but I don't want
    to tear them up yet again until I *think* I know how fly somewhat
    again. I've been taking lessons in a real cessna over the last year
    and I dunno if that will help or hurt at this point.

    What TX/RX and servos are recommended for zagi's planes? I've got a
    couple older sticks and servos, but I'm not sure if they will work.

    For the 3C (glider only) a Hi-tech Focus III SS AM is perfect. It's a single stick with built-in mixing (required for elevons) and comes with regular
    servos (which are perfect for the 3C). You can get them for $65 (inludes RX and servos) at hobbypeople.net.

    The 400 (and 400-X) requires the micro servos, so you need to spend an extra $50 ($25 ea) for the smaller servos for that plane. You might be able to get away with standard servos, but I just followed the directions and bought the more expensive (and smaller) servos, but with the same torque.

    Rob
  • From Digital Man to Amcleod on Sunday, January 07, 2001 16:13:36
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Pistolgrip on Sun Jan 07 2001 07:16 pm

    So it looks like I'll be doing some SMUGGLING in the near future. Do you th I could get a 2-Meter sailplane in my hand-luggage?

    No, but the Zagi box could be wrapped like a birthday gift (hint hint). :-)

    Rob
  • From Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Monday, January 08, 2001 17:28:10
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Mon Jan 08 2001 12:11 am

    OTE: TIDE 1.10 [UNREGISTERED]

  • From Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Monday, January 08, 2001 17:33:24
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Mon Jan 08 2001 12:11 am

    stick with built-in mixing (required for elevons) and comes with regular servos (which are perfect for the 3C). You can get them for $65 (inludes RX servos) at hobbypeople.net.

    The 400 (and 400-X) requires the micro servos, so you need to spend an extra $50 ($25 ea) for the smaller servos for that plane. You might be able to get away with standard servos, but I just followed the directions and bought the more expensive (and smaller) servos, but with the same torque.

    Do they require a 2 channel, 3 channel, or? I've got an old Futaba 4 channel that I'm prettys ure will work, but I might need to pickup some servos. I can't seem to find the specs on the the space requirements for servos and receivers. I did notice on the Zagi sight that there is a dealer right down the road that carries Zagi goods. I guess I'll make a trip down there and see if I can find out some more info.

    Do they come with a built-in speed control? I've got some old electronic speed controls left over from my R/C car days. Ahh hell, I'll just got take alook myself asap :0

    PG


  • From Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 06:33:27
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2001 01:33 am

    stick with built-in mixing (required for elevons) and comes with regular servos (which are perfect for the 3C). You can get them for $65 (inludes servos) at hobbypeople.net.

    The 400 (and 400-X) requires the micro servos, so you need to spend an ex $50 ($25 ea) for the smaller servos for that plane. You might be able to away with standard servos, but I just followed the directions and bought more expensive (and smaller) servos, but with the same torque.

    Do they require a 2 channel, 3 channel, or?

    The Zagi gliders require a 2 channel with mixing (preferrably built into the tx as is the case with the Hi-tec Focus III). The Zagi 400, 400-X, and Razor require a 3 channel with mixing of channels 1&2 (the 3rd channel is for throttle). I've found the fucus III SS AM to be perfect for both the 3C (glider) and the 400-X, although the 400-X directions call for micro servors.

    I've got an old Futaba 4 channel
    that I'm prettys ure will work, but I might need to pickup some servos.

    Make sure it supports mixing channels 1 and 2, and a single stick is the way to go.

    I
    can't seem to find the specs on the the space requirements for servos and receivers.

    You cut your own holes on the 400/400-X, so the exacty shape isn't critical. The 3C comes with pre-cut servo holes that almost match the servos that come with the Focus III tx/rx/sx package.

    I did notice on the Zagi sight that there is a dealer right down
    the road that carries Zagi goods. I guess I'll make a trip down there and se if I can find out some more info.

    You can also call Trick R/C. They're very helpful.

    Do they come with a built-in speed control?

    Yes, the electric planes do.

    I've got some old electronic spe
    controls left over from my R/C car days. Ahh hell, I'll just got take alook myself asap :0

    I thought I might be able to recycle some of my old R/C car stuff for my planes, but haven't been able to. I even had to buy a new battery charger as my old chargers didn't support 8 cell packs. <shrug>

    Rob
  • From Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 14:49:55
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Tue Jan 09 2001 02:33 pm

    Do they require a 2 channel, 3 channel, or?

    The Zagi gliders require a 2 channel with mixing (preferrably built into the as is the case with the Hi-tec Focus III). The Zagi 400, 400-X, and Razor require a 3 channel with mixing of channels 1&2 (the 3rd channel is for throttle). I've found the fucus III SS AM to be perfect for both the 3C (glider) and the 400-X, although the 400-X directions call for micro servors

    Hmm.. I might just buy a new radio setp, but i was hoping not to have to.


    I've got an old Futaba 4 channel
    that I'm prettys ure will work, but I might need to pickup some servos.

    Make sure it supports mixing channels 1 and 2, and a single stick is the way

    Yeah, I think it supports mixing on al 4 channels, but I need to dig it out and check. It is a 2 stick model though, serious problem you think? I'm used to one stick for throttle and one for flight controls.

    I
    can't seem to find the specs on the the space requirements for servos and receivers.

    You cut your own holes on the 400/400-X, so the exacty shape isn't critical. The 3C comes with pre-cut servo holes that almost match the servos that come with the Focus III tx/rx/sx package.

    Cool, thanks.. I'm betting I can use my old servos then. That is as long as they still work after 10 years+ being stored :)

    I've got some old electronic spe
    controls left over from my R/C car days. Ahh hell, I'll just got take al myself asap :0

    I thought I might be able to recycle some of my old R/C car stuff for my planes, but haven't been able to. I even had to buy a new battery charger as old chargers didn't support 8 cell packs. <shrug>

    Dam, guess that prbably means my old TEKIN charger won't work either :-(

    Thanks for the info.

    PG


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  • From Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 15:28:57
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2001 10:49 pm

    Do they require a 2 channel, 3 channel, or?

    The Zagi gliders require a 2 channel with mixing (preferrably built into as is the case with the Hi-tec Focus III). The Zagi 400, 400-X, and Razor require a 3 channel with mixing of channels 1&2 (the 3rd channel is for throttle). I've found the fucus III SS AM to be perfect for both the 3C (glider) and the 400-X, although the 400-X directions call for micro serv

    Hmm.. I might just buy a new radio setp, but i was hoping not to have to.


    I've got an old Futaba 4 channel
    that I'm prettys ure will work, but I might need to pickup some servos

    Make sure it supports mixing channels 1 and 2, and a single stick is the

    Yeah, I think it supports mixing on al 4 channels, but I need to dig it out check. It is a 2 stick model though, serious problem you think? I'm used t one stick for throttle and one for flight controls.

    As long as you can mix 2 channels and use one stick for those two channels (and the other stick for the 3rd channel), it'll work fine.

    I
    can't seem to find the specs on the the space requirements for servos receivers.

    You cut your own holes on the 400/400-X, so the exacty shape isn't critic The 3C comes with pre-cut servo holes that almost match the servos that c with the Focus III tx/rx/sx package.

    Cool, thanks.. I'm betting I can use my old servos then. That is as long as they still work after 10 years+ being stored :)

    They should. :-)

    I've got some old electronic spe
    controls left over from my R/C car days. Ahh hell, I'll just got take myself asap :0

    I thought I might be able to recycle some of my old R/C car stuff for my planes, but haven't been able to. I even had to buy a new battery charger old chargers didn't support 8 cell packs. <shrug>

    Dam, guess that prbably means my old TEKIN charger won't work either :-(

    Thanks for the info.

    Yeah, no prob. Looks like fun, huh?

    Rob
  • From Amcleod to Pistolgrip on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 22:31:45
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2001 10:49 pm

    Make sure it supports mixing channels 1 and 2, and a single stick is the

    Yeah, I think it supports mixing on al 4 channels, but I need to dig it out check. It is a 2 stick model though, serious problem you think? I'm used t one stick for throttle and one for flight controls.

    If you have an old four-channel radio, then you should be able to mix the aileron/elevator controls on the right-hand stick and use the left stick for throttle, and ignore the fourth channel on the left stick. Or if flying an unpowered (3C?) ignore channels 3, 4 and do the elevon mixing on the right stick on ch. 1, 2.

    What you _don't_ want is an old 2-ch radio with one stick left/right only for "rudder" and the other fore/aft for "elevator". The Hitec radio shown on the Zagi site is a 3-ch radio but channels 1, 2 on a single stick rather than two separate sticks like some other 2 or 3-ch radios. I'm not sure how you control ch-3 on the Hitec though. It's supposed to be fully proportional, but the picky is too small to see if there is a separate slider or what for the throttle.

    I hope to be meeting eith the head honcho at the local aero-modellers club today. <sigh> Beureaucracy makes life so much harder!
  • From Digital Man to Amcleod on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 01:34:18
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Pistolgrip on Wed Jan 10 2001 06:31 am

    What you _don't_ want is an old 2-ch radio with one stick left/right only fo "rudder" and the other fore/aft for "elevator". The Hitec radio shown on th Zagi site is a 3-ch radio but channels 1, 2 on a single stick rather than tw separate sticks like some other 2 or 3-ch radios. I'm not sure how you cont ch-3 on the Hitec though. It's supposed to be fully proportional, but the picky is too small to see if there is a separate slider or what for the throttle.

    Yeah, there's a slider on the back for throttle (for your left index finger).

    I hope to be meeting eith the head honcho at the local aero-modellers club today. <sigh> Beureaucracy makes life so much harder!

    Good luck!

    Rob
  • From Pistolgrip to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 05:44:26
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Pistolgrip on Tue Jan 09 2001 11:28 pm

    Make sure it supports mixing channels 1 and 2, and a single stick is t

    Yeah, I think it supports mixing on al 4 channels, but I need to dig it o check. It is a 2 stick model though, serious problem you think? I'm use one stick for throttle and one for flight controls.

    As long as you can mix 2 channels and use one stick for those two channels ( the other stick for the 3rd channel), it'll work fine.

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it will work then. I need to get it out though and see if it even works at all anymore :)

    I thought I might be able to recycle some of my old R/C car stuff for planes, but haven't been able to. I even had to buy a new battery char old chargers didn't support 8 cell packs. <shrug>

    Dam, guess that prbably means my old TEKIN charger won't work either :-(

    Thanks for the info.

    Yeah, no prob. Looks like fun, huh?

    Oh yeah.. I had been thinking about the old R/C days recently anyway and after you mentioned your new hobby I figured I'd give it a go again. I got in contact earlier today with one of the R/C groups in my area and once spring hits here I think I'll be ready with a 400-X and possibly one of the gas powered trainers as well. I was talking with the guy from the group and he says there's usually 10-20 guys every weekend at the local 'fly-park' around here. He also said to be sure and bring some extra crystals, they 'assign' frequencies at teh park and you need to make sure you've got something in their range. I might have to buy a new radio anyway, I'm not sure if I can get too many more crystal sets for this old radio?

    PG
  • From Pistolgrip to Amcleod on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 05:49:11
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Pistolgrip on Wed Jan 10 2001 06:31 am

    If you have an old four-channel radio, then you should be able to mix the aileron/elevator controls on the right-hand stick and use the left stick for throttle, and ignore the fourth channel on the left stick. Or if flying an unpowered (3C?) ignore channels 3, 4 and do the elevon mixing on the right stick on ch. 1, 2.

    What you _don't_ want is an old 2-ch radio with one stick left/right only fo "rudder" and the other fore/aft for "elevator". The Hitec radio shown on th Zagi site is a 3-ch radio but channels 1, 2 on a single stick rather than tw separate sticks like some other 2 or 3-ch radios. I'm not sure how you cont ch-3 on the Hitec though. It's supposed to be fully proportional, but the picky is too small to see if there is a separate slider or what for the throttle.

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would work, but I'm used to the reverse operation where flight controls are on the left and throttle on the right. This could be backwards compared to the 'norm' but I used to fly this way, well I didn't fly very well.

    I opened-up the box eariler that holds the remains of one of my trainers and I was shocked at how much destruction there was :) I don't think I'll be fixing that one anytime soon :)

    I hope to be meeting eith the head honcho at the local aero-modellers club today. <sigh> Beureaucracy makes life so much harder!

    Heh... good luck... if they give you any trouble have them talk to your nurse :)

    PG
  • From Amcleod to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:57:49
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Amcleod on Wed Jan 10 2001 09:34 am

    I hope to be meeting eith the head honcho at the local aero-modellers clu today. <sigh> Beureaucracy makes life so much harder!

    Good luck!

    I met with the guy, and he says that the radio he/the club recommends is the Futuba 6XAS. That's a SIX-channel multi-function super-duper radio that comes with an option to iron your shorts (you supply the starch). :-/

    At $240 from http://www.towerhobbies.com/ that's not _terribly_ expensive, (I've spent $3,300 for a radio before now) but it's about _double_ what I'd intended to spend initially, all-inclusive, and that's just the radio!

    I'd hoped to get my feet wet before deciding if I wanted to take up swimming, ya know? But this way, if I buy the 6XAS then I'm pretty much committing myself to the sport right off the bat. The 27MHz stuff doesn't work here apparently - all the illegal CBers running linears guarantee a crash every time you launch with 27MHz R/C. So it's gotta be 72MHz and I need to get the club to recommend a specific freq. so as to avoid clashing with all the other guys.

    So I have to decide if I want to spend $240 on a radio to fly a $45 Zagi. Yeah, if I decide to run a twin-engined ducted-fan swing-wing tornado in British-Army-Of-The-Rhine flight colours the same radio will stand me in good stead. But if the first time I fly the Zagi it augers in on the top of my head reducing my IQ to that of, oh, say a MUD-player, and I decide to give it all up, I've blown a LOT of dosh!
  • From Pistolgrip to Amcleod on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:16:26
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Digital Man on Wed Jan 10 2001 06:57 pm

    But if the first time I fly the Zagi it augers in on the top of my head reducing my IQ to that of, oh, say a MUD-player, and I decide to give it all up, I've blown a LOT of dosh!

    LOL.. ohh the agony.. :-) U R Funny.

    PG
  • From Digital Man to Amcleod on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:35:27
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Amcleod to Digital Man on Wed Jan 10 2001 06:57 pm

    I hope to be meeting eith the head honcho at the local aero-modellers today. <sigh> Beureaucracy makes life so much harder!

    Good luck!

    I met with the guy, and he says that the radio he/the club recommends is the Futuba 6XAS. That's a SIX-channel multi-function super-duper radio that com with an option to iron your shorts (you supply the starch). :-/

    At $240 from http://www.towerhobbies.com/ that's not _terribly_ expensive, (I've spent $3,300 for a radio before now) but it's about _double_ what I'd intended to spend initially, all-inclusive, and that's just the radio!

    I'd hoped to get my feet wet before deciding if I wanted to take up swimming ya know? But this way, if I buy the 6XAS then I'm pretty much committing myself to the sport right off the bat. The 27MHz stuff doesn't work here apparently - all the illegal CBers running linears guarantee a crash every t you launch with 27MHz R/C. So it's gotta be 72MHz and I need to get the clu to recommend a specific freq. so as to avoid clashing with all the other guy

    The $65 Hi-tech Focus III SS AM is a 72mhz transmitter perfect for any of the Zagis and even comes with the rx and servos at that price! http://www.hobbypeople.net

    Rob
  • From Amcleod to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 22:01:16
    RE: New hobby
    BY: Digital Man to Amcleod on Wed Jan 10 2001 08:35 pm

    The $65 Hi-tech Focus III SS AM is a 72mhz transmitter perfect for any of th Zagis and even comes with the rx and servos at that price! http://www.hobbypeople.net

    Really? Why did I think it was in the 11-meter band, then? Hobby People doesn't have any, and Tower's site seems to be down/dead but I'll have a look at it later. In any event, it remains to be seen if I can get a licence to import one withOUT the approval of this club - since they seem dead keen on this SIX channel radio...
  • From Railagent to Digital Man on Monday, February 27, 2006 13:42:51
    Re: New hobby
    By: Digital Man to All on Fri Jan 05 2001 05:21 am

    I got "into" a new hobby over the past month. Check out www.zagi.com. It's a blast!

    Rob

    So do you fly them and how do you guide them?

  • From Digital Man to Railagent on Monday, February 27, 2006 14:26:20
    Re: New hobby
    By: Railagent to Digital Man on Mon Feb 27 2006 01:42 pm

    Re: New hobby
    By: Digital Man to All on Fri Jan 05 2001 05:21 am

    I got "into" a new hobby over the past month. Check out www.zagi.com. It' blast!

    Rob

    So do you fly them and how do you guide them?

    Absolutely. With radio control of course. :-)

    digital man

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