The point of affirmative action is to insure success is
distributed regardless of race. Only those who oppose AA must
believe there is no racial compenent to poverty.
The point of affirmative action is to discriminate in favor
of minorities - in most cases meaning blacks. Once equality
You really are not familar with the history of affirmative
action, are you.
Some years back I found one of the annual almanacs, don't recall
which but one of the top ones, had regular analysis of affirmative BK>action. They found that 90% of the benefits of affirmative action
went to whites.
has been reached, affirmative action programs are no longer
needed and should be dismantled. However, once inequalities
re-emerge, affirmative action programs should be put back
in place. This on again/off again approach is the only way
affirmative action programs can work in a truly fair manner.
Since Equality has not been reached, that's not relevant, yet.
Which is true. We need affirmative action for all the poor in
America.
Bob Dole said much the same thing, but wanted to change it
from being a race-based program to being an economic-based
Which would mean, in the real world, focusing on white poor
first.
Black folks are more discriminatory of their own than any
other race. There are dark-skinned blacks, light-skinned
blacks, blacks who pass for white ...
When you are reduced to survival level your competitors are not
those well off, but those like you scrambling to survive.
Let's see how well those who are presently on disability
(SSDI) manage to survive when their checks are cut by 20
percent in 2016. Let's see how those on disability manage
to survive when conservative Republicans undo at least some
of Ronald Reagan's 1984 reform that expanded the kinds of
disabilities covered.
Yes, they worship the name of Reagan, but his actual policies
are anathema.
Do you think the Congress will do anything to save the SSDI
trust program? By doing nothing, the cuts take effect
Not if the Tea Party can stop them.
automatically. What will happen is Republican lawmakers
will say something along the lines of "Let's compromise" to
the Democrats, and then refuse to go along with anything
the Democrats propose. To obstruct, by any means
necessary, resulting in getting exactly what they want,
while blaming Obama at the same time.
Well, yeah, but that's their SOP.
After gutting the SSDI program, Republican lawmakers will
move on to gutting the Social Security program for retirees
age 65 and over. Won't that be grand?
Gutting SSDI will cause so much trouble, and even trying to end
Social Security, the republicans will lose all the control they
have now.
let's keep SSI and medicaid, as funding for those programs
Imagine that. Folks who never worked a day in their life
are better off than folks who worked their butts off their
entire lives.
An awful lot of those on SSI and Medicaid have worked, and
Medicaid is 2/3rds the handicapped and elderly, last I checked.
seems to me that most folks would prefer having a bit of
free time after having worked for sixty or seventy fucking
years.
Trust me, you are right. Though is just seems to me like a long
string of days off, or a very long vacation.
When I was young they could tell us, if we succeeded in school
we would have jobs. Now they tell kids, if they succeed in
school it's less likely they will be the ones without jobs,
someone else will be. Not much of a guarantee.
Social Security used to be a guarantee. Not any more.
Pensions used to be a guarantee. Not any more.
Social security will survive, unless the republicans get so much
power they can eliminate it quickly enough so the resistance can
not get organized.
LOL.... irony as it's best... vote for the man who doesn't give a
rat's ass about you.
You have to remember - we boil our crawfish LIVE. :)
Hmmm... that seems a bit... disturbing...
Not for the crawfish. They wave their little claws out the
water and stare at us with those beady little eyes ...
Thinking how they would like to reverse the positions?
it. Not only that, but unlike many black men, Strom
Thurmond was not a deadbeat dad. So don't you go around
Thurmond was the worst sort of deadbeat dad, one who would not
only not even admit he had a daughter, but one who saw to it his
daughter was classified in a group that was considered inferior
and discriminated against under the law.
So many white men are deadbeat dads. It's part of a society that
is breaking down, pushing the middle class into the poor and
turning the US into a third world country.
telling anybody that Strom
Thurmond was a racist who did not care about black folks.
He loved them. He loved them very much ...
No, he did not.
When is Jindal on the menu?
He's on the republican's menu.
When we pick up our crawfish, they are brown. We heat up
the water
Is that a reference to Jindal?
The point of affirmative action is to insure success is
distributed regardless of race. Only those who oppose AA must
believe there is no racial compenent to poverty.
The point of affirmative action is to discriminate in favor
of minorities - in most cases meaning blacks. Once equality
You really are not familar with the history of affirmative
action, are you.
Of course I am! Of course I am! It is a history of
discrimination!
Some years back I found one of the annual almanacs, don't recall
which but one of the top ones, had regular analysis of affirmative BK>>action. They found that 90% of the benefits of affirmative action
went to whites.
White folks created it for their own benefit. By creating
affirmative action, white folks expanded the work force for
employers. An expanded work force meant more qualified
workers for employers to choose from.
Although not part of affirmative action, this example says
it all -
Paul "Bear" Bryant, head football coach at Alabama, wanted
to offer full scholarships to black athletes. But he was
unable to do so due to opposition from Alabama alumni. So
he got the Alabama athletic director to get in touch with
the University of Southern California athletic director,
thus setting up a football game between Alabama and USC.
The game was televised nationally, and played at Alabama.
USC easily won the game, by a wide margin. I will not
repeat the taunts made by Alabama fans, which were very
carefully edited out from television. The Alabama alumni
got the picture, and from that day forward allowed black
athletes to receive full scholarships.
has been reached, affirmative action programs are no longer
needed and should be dismantled. However, once inequalities
re-emerge, affirmative action programs should be put back
in place. This on again/off again approach is the only way
affirmative action programs can work in a truly fair manner.
Since Equality has not been reached, that's not relevant, yet.
The best that can be hoped for is a +/- percentage. Not
really a quota system, but an approximation.
Which is true. We need affirmative action for all the poor in
America.
Bob Dole said much the same thing, but wanted to change it
from being a race-based program to being an economic-based
Which would mean, in the real world, focusing on white poor
first.
That was Bob Dole's idea, basing his argument on economic
terms rather than on racial terms. Problem was he didn't
follow up with an actual plan of his own.
Do you think the Congress will do anything to save the SSDI
trust program? By doing nothing, the cuts take effect
Not if the Tea Party can stop them.
Not to worry. Ted Cruz will come to the rescue. After
all, he has already stopped the Democrats. He has also
stopped the Republicans. So who else is left to stop him?
You? Please. Give me a break.
After gutting the SSDI program, Republican lawmakers will
move on to gutting the Social Security program for retirees
age 65 and over. Won't that be grand?
Gutting SSDI will cause so much trouble, and even trying to end
Social Security, the republicans will lose all the control they
have now.
That is why the GOP had to gut SNAP first.
By starving the poor, there will be fewer mouths
to feed. And that means less opposition from
the poor, disabled, and elderly. Keep doing
that for a few decades and then Republicans
will win every election by default.
Imagine that. Folks who never worked a day in their life
are better off than folks who worked their butts off their
entire lives.
An awful lot of those on SSI and Medicaid have worked, and
Medicaid is 2/3rds the handicapped and elderly, last I checked.
They have not worked enough to earn the credits they need
for retirement. For most people, 40 credits (quarters) is
the minimum. IOW, ten years of work over a lifetime (up to
age 65). It should also be kept in mind that not all
governors have signed on to expanded medicaid, leaving many
people unable to obtain insurance through Obamacare.
Trust me, you are right. Though is just seems to me like a long
string of days off, or a very long vacation.
That's (marginally) better than terminal sleep (death).
When I was young they could tell us, if we succeeded in school
we would have jobs. Now they tell kids, if they succeed in
school it's less likely they will be the ones without jobs,
someone else will be. Not much of a guarantee.
Social Security used to be a guarantee. Not any more.
Pensions used to be a guarantee. Not any more.
Social security will survive, unless the republicans get so much
power they can eliminate it quickly enough so the resistance can
not get organized.
They'll probably water it down to the point that nobody
will notice when the plug is pulled.
Hello Bob,
it. Not only that, but unlike many black men, Strom
Thurmond was not a deadbeat dad. So don't you go around
Thurmond was the worst sort of deadbeat dad, one who would not
only not even admit he had a daughter, but one who saw to it his BK>>daughter was classified in a group that was considered inferior
and discriminated against under the law.
Please, Bob. You've got your racists are mixed up. There
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