I guess I answered my own question about the beta. <G> It's YOUR board I telneted to. Now, I don't remember my password! Sigh! Go ahead and erase my account and I'll make a new one someday. :(

But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you can share! <G>

--- Renegade v10-24.5/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

IIRC, the news bulletin(s) carry an email address for contacting me... send some authentication info and a new password via email and i'll fix that password right up... otherwise, yeah, i can erase it and let you create it again...

Nevermind, I remembered it. ;)

i can share that it is an old beta... unfortunately, i'm still under non-disclosure for a bit longer...

Any work being DONE with FD? Every email but defsol@defsol.se bounces back undelieverable. Everyone listed as a contact point for sales, doesn't deal with DefSol anymore. The FTP site is gone ... any ideas?!

--- Renegade v10-24.5/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

I guess I answered my own question about the beta. <G> It's
YOUR board I telneted to.

hehehe... yeah, i haven't purged old users in many years... mainly due to differences in the tools i use and the current RA beta that i'm running...

Now, I don't remember my password! Sigh! Go ahead and erase my account and I'll make a new one someday. :(

IIRC, the news bulletin(s) carry an email address for contacting me... send me some authentication info and a new password via email and i'll fix that password right up... otherwise, yeah, i can erase it and let you create it again...

But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you can
share! <G>

i can share that it is an old beta... unfortunately, i'm still under non-disclosure for a bit longer...

)\/(ark


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But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you can
share! <G>

i can share that it is an old beta... unfortunately, i'm still
under non-disclosure for a bit longer...

A bit longer? Does this mean that -in a bit- there may be a release? Or is that
info under non-disclosure too?

Phil

--- FMail/Win32 1.60
* Origin: ==<<FLaSHBaCK-BBS>>== part of the NYCap/Adirondack Netwo (1:267/169)

But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you
can share! <G>

i can share that it is an old beta... unfortunately, i'm still
under non-disclosure for a bit longer...

A bit longer? Does this mean that -in a bit- there may be a
release? Or is that info under non-disclosure too?

my non-disclosure contract is up five (5) years after i've been released from the beta team... the only questions i can fathom at this time is if the beta team has been released and at what date/time that release was effective...

with regard to the beta that is operating on my system, it is a beta that the team tested and ran before the release of the base version (ie: 2.33 beta 2 is the second beta of version 2.33)... i've not seen any need to update further since this version was installed... i probably should, though... however, there's also that "status" and the "excitement" one gets knowing that others are seeing a beta in operation ;)

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the beta team... the only questions i can fathom at this time is if the bet team has been released and at what date/time that release was effective...

And when is this date/time so we can all know? ;)

--- Renegade v10-24.5/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

the beta team... the only questions i can fathom at this time is
if the beta team has been released and at what date/time that
release was effective...

And when is this date/time so we can all know? ;)

ermmm... i was "asking" that question ;)

)\/(ark


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And when is this date/time so we can all know? ;)

ermmm... i was "asking" that question ;)

I know ... I just REALLY wanna FIND out! ;)

--- Renegade v10-24.5/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

hai T.J....

27 Feb 2006 11:10, T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Mark Lewis:

And when is this date/time so we can all know? ;)

....after duke nukem 4ever comes out......

;-)


-addy-


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27 Feb 2006 11:10, T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Mark Lewis:

And when is this date/time so we can all know? ;)

....after duke nukem 4ever comes out......

Well .. it's out. Now tell me ... <G> Okay, it's not ... but ... still. ;)

--- Renegade v04-30.6/Alpha r8
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

Well, I guess we shall see what happens if I can find all my tools
again. I'll be re-organizing a few things over the coming weeks and
months, and then I need to re-check if there's actually a
need/want/whatever for me to get back into the loop :-)
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140)

Well, I guess we shall see what happens if I can find all my tools
again. I'll be re-organizing a few things over the coming weeks and months, and then I need to re-check if there's actually a need/want/whatever for me to get back into the loop :-)

Anything related to FD would be great now-a-days. The main issue is with the Z-Modem transfers via Win32 telnet ... under OS/2 and VMODEM it worked great! With Win32 I can receive 98% of the time .. but sending I can sent 2% of the time and 98% of the time it just resends from zero over and over and over.

... Hard Work never killed anyone, so why chance it?

--- Renegade v09-30.6 DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

hai T.J....

05 Nov 2006 23:45, T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Jo Ho:

with the Z-Modem transfers via Win32 telnet

why not binkd ??

... under OS/2 and VMODEM it worked great!

FD/2, BINKD/2 , M2D. thats all what you need.

sending I can sent 2% of the time and 98% of the time it just resends
from zero over and over and over.

win....;-)


-addy-


* Origin: Xylonite Experimental Expansion Nacelle (2:240/5790)

with the Z-Modem transfers via Win32 telnet

why not binkd ??

Cause I paid for FD and want to get my money's worth out of the commerical version I bought like 12 years ago. ;) Now that I actually have more than 2 nodes. <G>

... under OS/2 and VMODEM it worked great!

FD/2, BINKD/2 , M2D. thats all what you need.

Haven't had OS/2 installed in 6 years or better ... :(

sending I can sent 2% of the time and 98% of the time it just resends from zero over and over and over.

win....;-)

Yes, crappy, crappy winblows. I got tired of CONSTANTLY looking for OS/2 drivers for everything that no one makes anymore. :( Didn't have the money to "use" on eCS, but would like too ....

... Really honey, I NEED 10 megawatts for it.

--- Renegade v09-30.6 DOS
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

"T.J. Mcmillen -> Adolf Cichy" <1:129/305> wrote in news:41130$fido.fdecho@JamNNTPd:

with the Z-Modem transfers via Win32 telnet

why not binkd ??

Cause I paid for FD and want to get my money's worth out of the
commerical version I bought like 12 years ago. ;) Now that I actually have more than 2 nodes. <G>

that sounds reasonable enough to me ;)

... under OS/2 and VMODEM it worked great!

FD/2, BINKD/2 , M2D. thats all what you need.

Haven't had OS/2 installed in 6 years or better ... :(

eeewww... :(

sending I can sent 2% of the time and 98% of the time it just

resends AC> TM> from zero over and over and over.

win....;-)

Yes, crappy, crappy winblows. I got tired of CONSTANTLY looking for
OS/2 drivers for everything that no one makes anymore. :( Didn't have
the money to "use" on eCS, but would like too ....

i know that feeling about eCS... but i'm not sure i really understand about hunting for drivers... i don't think that i've actually done much of adding
or removing stuff that i had to find drivers for... i used to use the SCSI
port on a soundblaster card but when i swapped out motherboards, the new one had SCSI built in... then i also had to swap out the video but i used
another ATI card that just happened to use the same drivers as the previous one... other than that, possibly a NIC at one time or another... actually,
now that i think about it, that NIC is still the original Intel EtherExpress
16 card that i put in the original box back during my DESQview days ;)

but then again, once i got the second machine, the bbs box was basically nothing more than that... the bbs... all my games and everything else got
moved over to the new box... so i didn't have any more wierdness happening
on the bbs and i wasn't knocking it over like had been being done...
everything got a whole lot stabler...

)\/(ark


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But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you can share! <G>

Asking again as another year has passed. Allowed to spill the beans yet?

--- Renegade v09-30.6 DOS
* Origin: His juggling is almost hypnotic. Like a lava lamp. (1:229/426)

Well, I guess we shall see what happens if I can find all my tools
again. I'll be re-organizing a few things over the coming weeks and months, and then I need to re-check if there's actually a need/want/whatever for me to get back into the loop :-)

Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

--- Renegade v09-30.6 DOS
* Origin: His juggling is almost hypnotic. Like a lava lamp. (1:229/426)

But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if
you can share! <G>

Asking again as another year has passed. Allowed to spill the
beans yet?

unfortunately, i cannot spill anything WRT frontdoor at this point in time :?

)\/(ark


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Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

i can't say that :?

)\/(ark


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Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

i can't say that :?

Well JoHo said he's still around, but no website update, no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ... but no biggie ...

... Fahr-ferg-nug-en: German for "Can't afford the Mercedes."

--- Renegade v11-15.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

i can't say that :?

Well JoHo said he's still around,

yes...

but no website update,

yeah... ok... ??

no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but i don't remember the specifics...

but no biggie ...

;)

)\/(ark


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no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but i don't remember the specifics...

Constant resending a file and never completing it. The file would resend, resend, resend (retry), until it timed out. Had to have the user delete the msg packet so we could transfer mail again. Just think ZMODEM needs optimized to run under Win32 a bit. Always worked GREAT under OS/2 tho.

but no website update,

yeah... ok... ??

The news page hasn't been updated since they release XROBOT on Dec. 1999.

www.defsol.se

correct?

Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

i can't say that :?

I can. :(

... I just need enough to tide me over until I need more.

--- Renegade v11-19.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but
i don't
remember the specifics...

Constant resending a file and never completing it. The file would resend, resend, resend (retry), until it timed out. Had to have
the user delete the msg packet so we could transfer mail again.
Just think ZMODEM needs optimized to run under Win32 a bit.
Always worked GREAT under OS/2 tho.

mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

but no website update,

yeah... ok... ??

The news page hasn't been updated since they release XROBOT on
Dec. 1999.

yeah, ok? ??

www.defsol.se

correct?

yup...

Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

i can't say that :?

I can. :(

sorry 'bout that :?

)\/(ark


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mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

No, mailer to mailer via telnet is the issue.

Later!

... Christmas is coming, the geese are getting *very* worried

--- Renegade v11-20.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

No, mailer to mailer via telnet is the issue.

ok... so what is the issue?

i ran FD over telnet on dialup for years without any problems to speak of... now on 3M/384k DSL some minor anomolies do not appear any more so i assume that
they are/were timing based due to the limited dialup connection bandwidth...

1. what are your machine's specs?
a. CPU and mhz
b. memory
c. hard disk size
2. what OS?
3. what FOSSIL?
4. what telnet shim or virtual modem?
5. what version of FD?
6. describe the actual problem you are seeing.
7. post log snippets showing problem.

all i/we can do is try to help...

)\/(ark


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1. what are your machine's specs?
a. CPU and mhz
b. memory
c. hard disk size

AMD 1700+, 512 MB RAM, 2 80 GIG DRIVES

2. what OS?

WinXP

3. what FOSSIL?

NetFOSS

4. what telnet shim or virtual modem?

NetSerial (Com/IP was worse!)

5. what version of FD?

2.33.mL

6. describe the actual problem you are seeing.

As I stated, on some packets, fd would resend from ZERO (0 bytes), 18-20 times over and over and not be able to complete the connection until it finally timed out and failed. Thus it would try to send and/or receive (depending which way it wouldn't transfer), over and over and over and over. Thus forcing me to get a hold of my unlink to kill the packet or if it's on this end, kill the packet here.

7. post log snippets showing problem.

Don't use FD to transfer anymore because of the above, so I have no such log files any longer.

all i/we can do is try to help...

Thanks!

... Define the universe. Give three examples.

--- Renegade v11-21.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet connection?

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i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet connection?

DSL ... did the same years back when I had cable.

... It takes a long time to grow an old friend.

--- Renegade v11-21.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet
connection?

DSL ... did the same years back when I had cable.

what did the other end have? software and connection...

the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency connections like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the timings for these types of problems...

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the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency connectio like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

One was FD 2.12.SW ... one was 2.20c ... one was Argus ... and I forget what the other uplink was.

there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the timings fo these types of problems...

Wish I had that version! ;)

... Gun Control means using 2 hands

--- Renegade v11-21.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency
connectio
like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

One was FD 2.12.SW ... one was 2.20c ... one was Argus ... and I
forget what the other uplink was.

there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the
timings fo
these types of problems...

it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

)\/(ark


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it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

What?

it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32, and to 2.33 ... I paid for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then also paid the $$$ for the multiline version which I am running now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

... Living: The best demonstration of victory over mortality.

--- Renegade v11-21.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

What?

what what? the fixes or As Far As I Recall?

it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32, and to 2.33
... I paid for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then
also paid the $$$ for the multiline version which I am running
now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like i said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

)\/(ark


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i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

Unless there was some "minor" no documented change in the beta you are running. Dunno.

... Dracula was a vein man...

--- Renegade v11-21.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

My other issue is the IP address being trucated ie:

199.99.999.99 would show up in the DOBBSx.BAT file as 1999999999.

I am using NetSerial/NetFOSS (Contacted Mike @ PCMicro Already), but being you're running a beta, maybe you can see something.

Whenever I answer FD via terminal mode, the IP displays PERFECTLY. But once I have FD pass the information onto the DOBBSx.BAT file to load the BBS here is what I get.

EXEBBS 115200 2 10080 1 /ARQ/7125343200 N/A

Which under ALT-J (Terminal mode from WFC), it would show as 71.253.43.200 whenever I answered the "RING" ....

I never really paid much attention when I was using OS/2 and SIO, so I'm not sure if it worked then or not.

Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated! Or some help from JoHo or Mats. Or at very least them being notified on the problem.

Thanks!

... You remind me of myself, confused and hungover...

--- Renegade v11-28.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

My other issue is the IP address being trucated ie:

199.99.999.99 would show up in the DOBBSx.BAT file as 1999999999.

I am using NetSerial/NetFOSS (Contacted Mike @ PCMicro Already), but being you're running a beta, maybe you can see something.

Whenever I answer FD via terminal mode, the IP displays PERFECTLY. But onc have FD pass the information onto the DOBBSx.BAT file to load the BBS here what I get.

EXEBBS 115200 2 10080 1 /ARQ/7125343200 N/A

Which under ALT-J (Terminal mode from WFC), it would show as 71.253.43.200 whenever I answered the "RING" ....

I never really paid much attention when I was using OS/2 and SIO, so I'm no sure if it worked then or not.

Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated! Or some help from JoHo or Mats. O at very least them being notified on the problem.

Thanks!

Replying agian .. please read the quoted message if you didn't get it the first time I sent it a month ago.

... Divorce is not an effective deterrent to marriage.

--- Renegade v12-07.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

Replying agian .. please read the quoted message if you didn't get
it the first time I sent it a month ago.

i got it the first time you posted it...

i don't know why it would be being written to the dobbs file like that... everything that i see here seems to show that FD writes the connecting number as it received it from the "modem device"... my USRs send caller id data preformatted and my telnet shim also writes IP numbers formatted with the dots in the proper places... FD, as far as i can see, doesn't unformat them :?

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i got it the first time you posted it...

i don't know why it would be being written to the dobbs file like that... everything that i see here seems to show that FD writes the connecting numb as it received it from the "modem device"... my USRs send caller id data preformatted and my telnet shim also writes IP numbers formatted with the d in the proper places... FD, as far as i can see, doesn't unformat them :?

Humm .. wish JoHo or Mats would stop by ... maybe they know the "stupid" answer. ;)

... Auntie Em: Hate you. Hate Kansas. Took the Dog. Dorothy.

--- Renegade v12-07.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32,
and to 2.33 ... I paid
for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then
also paid the $$$ for
the multiline version which I am running now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

Heh, Heh.

The moral of the story is, never pay for anything.

Except maybe Netserial.


--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: <Xaragmata>< - Adelaide, Australia +61-8-8351-7637 (3:800/432)

Except maybe Netserial.

Paid for that as well ... well worth the money also.

... What does the Infantry call Airborne? Skeet Shoot!

--- Renegade v12-07.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

Except maybe Netserial.

Paid for that as well ... well worth the money also.

What's the maximum number of virtual comports for the Netserial SysOp version ?

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: <Xaragmata>< - Adelaide, Australia +61-8-8351-7637 (3:800/432)

What's the maximum number of virtual comports for the Netserial SysOp versi

256 IIRC. I only use 1 - 4 ... so I never really paid much notice.

... On Fidonet, nobody knows you're naked.

--- Renegade v12-07.7/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)

yes there is

I for one can not get FD 1.26sw working on this box.
and would love a working copy.

and dont like argus very much.

thanks
rob.

... Quick, easy, enlightenment; Just axe for it.

--- Renegade v01-28.8/Alpha
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.slyip.com (1:129/305)