Hello there All!

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have two JAM areas poinging to the same JAM files, ie say one is a gated area and I wish to combine it with a fido area
like alt.gen.blah and genealogy.nz, point them both to a single JAM base and connect just one system to one and all other feeds to the other... will that work? has anyone ever done that?

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Friday November 10 2000 11:38, Barry Blackford wrote to All:

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have two JAM areas poinging to
the same JAM files, ie say one is a gated area and I wish to combine
it with a fido area like alt.gen.blah and genealogy.nz, point them
both to a single JAM base and connect just one system to one and all
other feeds to the other... will that work? has anyone ever done that?

Yes, I've done it with GEcho. But when you scan, the new messages will be scanned out for the first message area only because they get marked "sent" and cannot be scanned twice. But tossing and reading/writing works ok.

Well, I just tried it with FE: FESETUP doesn't allow the same JAM path twice...

Not really what you needed, right?

'Tommi (tkk@iki.fi)

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Hello there Tommi!

10 Nov 00 at 10:18, Tommi Koivula writes to Barry Blackford:

Yes, I've done it with GEcho. But when you scan, the new
messages will be
scanned out for the first message area only because they get marked "sent" and cannot be scanned twice. But tossing and reading/writing works ok.

Ah huh...

Well, I just tried it with FE: FESETUP doesn't allow the same
JAM path twice...

Darn I thought I'd accidentally done that previously..

Not really what you needed, right?

No, not really, what are my options, I have existing distribution setup already
for some genealogy areas, the original gat person is closing/closed, another node is already gating the same areas but is not renaming them, is there a way around this problem?

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Saturday November 11 2000 07:51, Barry Blackford wrote to Tommi Koivula:

No, not really, what are my options, I have existing distribution
setup already for some genealogy areas, the original gat person is closing/closed, another node is already gating the same areas but is
not renaming them, is there a way around this problem?

Do you need to gate fidonet echoes to internet and vice versa? How about Soupgate? I'm using it, and it can translate echotags to newsgroups.

If you need to gate fido echoes to fido eches, how about the "carbon copies" -stuff in Fastecho?

'Tommi (tkk@iki.fi)

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Hi! Barry,

On 11 Nov 00 07:51, Barry Blackford wrote to Tommi Koivula:

No, not really, what are my options, I have existing distribution
setup already for some genealogy areas, the original gat person is closing/closed, another node is already gating the same areas but is
not renaming them, is there a way around this problem?

How about SUBST-ing a DOS drive letter to your existing directory/JAM areas, for only that other node? It may make more sense to re-organize only the affected areas with regard to directory structure, to make the process a little
easier. (FeSetup can help with that... moving area about.)

I just tried it here and it seemed to want to work.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Barry Blackford on 10 Nov 00 in FE_HELP

Hello Barry

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have two JAM areas
poinging to the same JAM files, ie say one is a gated area
and I wish to combine it with a fido area like alt.gen.blah
and genealogy.nz, point them both to a single JAM base and
connect just one system to one and all other feeds to the
other... will that work? has anyone ever done that?

I foresaw problems when I needed to do same, though primarily because
they two echos were of different nets and the origins wouldn't work.

So I wrote Echogate, a widget that will remap msgs from one echo to
another, changing origins and so on as it goes. I can email it to you
if you're interested.

--
Simon
Devon, England

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Hello there Simon!

11 Nov 00 at 11:38, Simon Avery writes to Barry Blackford:

I foresaw problems when I needed to do same, though primarily because
they two echos were of different nets and the origins wouldn't work.

So I wrote Echogate, a widget that will remap msgs from one echo to another, changing origins and so on as it goes. I can email it to you
if you're interested.

While the pressure is off for this change now I would still appreciate having it available should the need arrise in the future, thank you Simon.

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Hello there Paul!

11 Nov 00 at 20:47, Paul Quinn writes to Barry Blackford:

How about SUBST-ing a DOS drive letter to your existing directory/JAM areas, for only that other node? It may make more sense to re-organize only the affected areas with regard to directory structure, to make the process a little easier. (FeSetup can help with that... moving area about.)

I just tried it here and it seemed to want to work.

I think it would end badly, just a feeling, probably because it's too easy, thanks Paul the pressure is off for that fix now.

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Hello there Tommi!

11 Nov 00 at 12:25, Tommi Koivula writes to Barry Blackford:

In this case another node is gating them, they just need renaming in efect but the time the get to me.

If you need to gate fido echoes to fido eches, how about the "carbon copies" -stuff in Fastecho?

Yes, using the ^A option looks like it would work just fine, two way traffic would require it to be done both ways but it looks like it'd work fine, thank you for pointing that out Tommi.

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Hello there Tommi!

12 Nov 00 at 23:23, Barry Blackford writes to Tommi Koivula:

If you need to gate fido echoes to fido eches, how about the
"carbon copies" -stuff in Fastecho?

Yes, using the ^A option looks like it would work just fine, two way traffic would require it to be done both ways but it looks like it'd work fine, thank you for pointing that out Tom.

This is limited to just a few areas Tom, just tried it..


Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Saturday November 11 2000, Barry Blackford writes to Tommi Koivula:

closing/closed, another node is already gating the same areas but is not renaming them, is there a way around this problem?

Have you tried a gate program (like FFGate)? I use it to gate between different
nets and map between different area names.

/MiK

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Monday November 13 2000 15:36, Barry Blackford wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Yes, using the ^A option looks like it would work just fine, two
way traffic would require it to be done both ways but it looks
like it'd work fine, thank you for pointing that out Tom.

This is limited to just a few areas Tom, just tried it..

Oh.. Then you need to install some gateway software.

'Tommi (tkk@iki.fi)

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Hi! Barry,

On 12 Nov 00 23:21, Barry Blackford wrote to Paul Quinn:

How about SUBST-ing a DOS drive letter to your existing directory/JAM

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I think it would end badly, just a feeling, probably because it's too easy, thanks Paul the pressure is off for that fix now.

Mmm... I've been using SUBST-ed drives across the network here since June/July,
for the few squish areas that I use. No probs so far, although this node doesn't see a lot of traffic.

I did some further testing with the idea this arvo, creating a pseudo area on the 'host' drive (i.e. using the real path) and creating a downlink. But a rescan of the area to the new downlink failed, possibly for the same reason that Tommi Koivula had trouble with GEcho. <shrug>

Since I couldn't leave the setup to run with that config on the network, I had to delete everything, but, you might care to take some time with it. Maybe just before you're about to write that cheque for a shareware gating util. <smirk>

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello there Paul!

14 Nov 00 at 20:59, Paul Quinn writes to Barry Blackford:

Since I couldn't leave the setup to run with that config on the network, I had to delete everything, but, you might care to take some time with it. Maybe just before you're about to write that cheque for a shareware gating util. <smirk>

Rest assured Paul, if it's not free I'm not going to install it, I think Gating
software is the only good answer, Simon's widget doesn't work with Binkley style outbounds so I can't use that one, anyone know of a free option.

That may well sound like I'm a cheep-skate, if you saw how much I have spent on
software for the benefit of others you'd cringe, especially when I tell you that a majority of the developers folded afterwards so while I paid on a basis of future development and upgrades they quickly (in some cases) became worthless/useless (GEcho/FileMgr/D'Bridgex3) as they fell behind rest of the world or became freeware (Golded/ARGUSUS) are some of those which come to mind.

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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Rest assured Paul, if it's not free I'm not going to install it,

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[]s

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Friday November 17 2000 19:02, Renato Zambon wrote to Barry Blackford:

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rsnet.com.br, mg100f.rar, 522kb.

The site doesn't exist. Please email it to me.

'Tommi (tkk@iki.fi)

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|#### MailGate 1.00 FreeWare ####|
rsnet.com.br, mg100f.rar, 522kb.

The site doesn't exist. Please email it to me.
'Tommi (tkk@iki.fi)

Sorry, was rsnetbbs.com.br, for ftp, but I looked now and isn't there,
Sending by email...

[]s

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