On (17 Jan 01) Steve Quarrella wrote to Frank Vest...

Hello Steve,

size of the bundle and the destination (disk) they went to. Maybe
if you did a quick and temporary reconfigure of Fastecho and just had it rebundle the packets to a floppy with a size to match.

How would you reconfig FE to do that? Or do you mean in conjunction
with that utility you mentioned? ISTR there was some kind of PKTSIZE utility some years ago that would do what I was seeking to do.

I think there is a place to limit the size of the packets or bundles or something like that. Heck, I don't know. It was just another thought. :)

I used to run a program called "packet Sorter" that would do what
you want, but I had to quit because of Y2K problems.

If it helps, I use a program called PSRT, by Jason Fesler, to sort
packets and combine them into one. I can send that over if that does
what you were needing previously. I just did a very quick look at TFM
and didn't see its breaking things down into smaller chunks, though. <shrug>

PSRT sounds like what I had. Maybe you have a newer version or something.

On another thought for your bundles... Use the Internet. Upload the durn
thing to your web site and then DL it with the Point system. :-) Dumb
idea, over? :-))

Frank

flv@texoma.net
http://texoma.net/~flv
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... Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a SysOp.

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i'm assuming that you're saying you have a *.MO1
that's 4MEG in size that is full of PKTs, right???

Right!

ok!

I'd like to break it up into disk-sized chunks.

disk-sized?? floppy disk??

Oh, a sad day it is when we no longer think of "disk" as
"floppy." <g>

<<GG>> had to make sure... hate to ass-u-me things 8-0

well, shouldn't matter, really as you can extract the PKTs and
store/toss them straight without them having to be
inside the bundle (*.MO1) file...

That's running parallel to what I'm thinking in case I have to
break the thing up manually. On the plus side, while it's not
a program, a ZIP drive popped up last night while I was
digging out of the computer room, and that'll easily address
this problem. :-)

other than wanting to break the _bundle_ into smaller pieces, i still don't know what the overall problem is that you're attempting to address...

well, if you run 4DOS or such,

I don't.

uggg... how do you run your system, then?? hahahaha... if it wasn't for 4dos/4os2, my stuff would just stare at me and everyone else with its single unblinking eye... some of what i used to do with .bat file majik is built in or
at least infinitely easier with 4dos/4os2... this is also probably one of the major reasons why i haven't moved this setup to winwhatever... i don't even want to think about what i'd have to do to get it running on linux... might not
be as bad as it could be if dosemu is what i think it is OB-)

you could do something like my logfile archiving stuff
that i beat on for a while... my system archives *.log
every night into one syslogs.zip file after renaming
*.log to the

I use AMU to do this. I KNOW it'll work with the software
you use, and it's free!

true but at that time, i don't think it was... might have been but it was way too capable/involved for my needs... just archiving my logs (only two lines in a .BAT file for the rename and the pkzip command) into one huge archive is enough for me... that is, until i decide that i want to keep them and get them off onto floppies <<GG>> but, i've already gone too far 'this year' because i didn't move the huge archive and files inside it from last year have already been replaced with this years files... i just hope that i don't need any of my old netmail that's been purged from the netmail area to text log with my NMPurge program... s'ok, though... an archive covering a year should be ok for the most part...

hopeing i've not misunderstood something...

You did good, and thanks for the note!

not a problem... hope you got yours taken care of...

)\/(ark


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I think there is a place to limit the size of the packets or
bundles or something like that.

Yep. You can do that in FESETUP. I see, though, that I neglected to set a limitation for this particular point, given that mail was going out for him every couple of hours with Irex. :-)

If it helps, I use a program called PSRT, by Jason Fesler, to sort

PSRT sounds like what I had. Maybe you have a newer version or
something.

Mine's dated 4/7/94, and still sorts.

On another thought for your bundles... Use the Internet. Upload the
durn thing to your web site and then DL it with the Point system. :-)
Dumb idea, over? :-))

Certainly something I considered. :-)

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other than wanting to break the _bundle_ into smaller pieces, i

That's all I needed to do. The bundle needs to be ported, on disk, to another system, and obviously, I don't have a 4 MEG floppy handy. Actually, there are plenty of workarounds, but I was hoping there -was- such a utility, for future use.

well, if you run 4DOS or such,

I don't.

uggg... how do you run your system, then??

Ask Jeff Schrunk at 1:3830/5, whom I just mystified with my "amazing" batchfiles. Something along the lines of the old Monty Python "Confuse-a-Cat" sketch. <LOL>

with its single unblinking eye... some of what i used to do with
.bat file majik is built in or at least infinitely easier with 4dos/4os2...

It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase. :-)

I use AMU to do this. I KNOW it'll work with the software
you use, and it's free!

true but at that time, i don't think it was... might have been but
it was way too capable/involved for my needs... just archiving my

It's a terribly powerful program, but not complex enough that you couldn't get the logfile processing up and running in about 10 minutes. I never DID sort out the file list generation, but that's for another echo. :-)

logs (only two lines in a .BAT file for the rename and the pkzip
command) into one huge archive is enough for me... that is, until i
decide that i want to keep them and get them off onto floppies

Or CDs.

not a problem... hope you got yours taken care of...

I will have it corrected shortly, and this will all be a moot point by tomorrow
afternoon. :-)

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Hello Steve.

<On 26Jan2001 10:03 Steve Quarrella (1:393/9005) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Packet splitter >

I will be the first to admit I'm ignorant or wrong, as I didn't
really cling to the documentation when I had a look at it last
week. I do know that PacketSorter will split large messages and
rejoin them.

Not sure about that one, Steve. Will research it a bit just for the heck of it.

In any event, problem long since solved by putting the machine on
the LAN and copying the file to where my point software could get
it. <g> Thanks!

Good show!

PS: I heartily recommend this utility. It still works in 2001,
and it works well.

I use it heavily on the inbound packets from the NewsGate program, some of which get up into the multiple megs in size. The Y2k date correction program (PKTDATE.EXE) barfs on packets over ~150 messages, so I split everything down smaller than that.

::Later:: Pktsort will indeed split messages and unsplit them as well.

Best regards,
Marc

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Hello Steve.

<On 16Jan2001 19:30 Steve Quarrella (1:393/9005) wrote a message to All regarding Packet splitter >

I've got a 4 MEG compressed bundle full of packets, and I'd like to
break it up into disk-sized chunks. Anybody know of a good utility
to do this? If worse comes to worse, I'll make a few copies and
use something like InspectA to remove the packets inside of the
copies, but that's -work.- :-)

Here's what you need:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-CUT-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
~~
PSRT_14.ZIP 269,266 04-26-94 PacketSorter v1.4 bug fixes & new features
FidoNet inbound packet processor defragments
packets, speeds up tossing on SQUISH and JAM:

PacketSorter is a utility for defragmenting, splitting, unsplitting,
cleaning and sorting inbound FidoNet (FTS-0001) message packets. It has
been developed in the first place because the time the echomail tosser
Squish needs to toss messsages into the messagebase heavily depends on
the fragmentation level of the packets received. The packets you
receive from your links are usually not sorted in any order.
PacketSorter groups the messages contained in the packets by their area
tag. On my system the packets defragmented with PacketSorter are tossed
by Squish up to 5 times faster than the original packets. The
performance gain you will notice depends on the tosser you use, the
messagebase you use and the performance of your disk subsystem. People
using a Hudson-style messagebase or a hardware cache controller for the
harddisk may notice no performance gain at all. PacketSorter is not
limited to be used only with Squish. You may use PacketSorter with any
other echomail processor.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-CUT-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Best regards,
Marc

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In any event, problem long since solved by putting the machine on
the LAN and copying the file to where my point software could get
it. <g> Thanks!

Good show!

And thus, you suddenly see your ol' RC responding to mail going back a month. :-)

I use it heavily on the inbound packets from the NewsGate program,
some of which get up into the multiple megs in size. The Y2k date correction program (PKTDATE.EXE) barfs on packets over ~150
messages, so I split everything down smaller than that.

Great minds think alike, as I also use that here. I've got a system in Net 393
who's using software that generates bad dates, and he participates in Fidonet thanks to that program.

::Later:: Pktsort will indeed split messages and unsplit them as
well.

Messages, yes, but I don't think it will take an archive of PKTs and split them
into smaller chunks.

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Hello there Steve!

17 Jan 01 at 14:13, Steve Quarrella writes to Frank Vest:

I havn't read here lately (abviously), so if this reply is irrelivant don't read on.

And that's appreciated. Sometimes, you just have to use the
trusty ol'
mousetrap and forget about creating a new, more efficient one. By this evening, this'll be a moot point -- that 4 MEG is for 9005.13, which you know was recently left high and dry -- as I've got another system with my point software installed. It just remains to get the archive from this room to another room without a LAN. :-)

Ah a sneakernet! I didn't think there were any of those left!
I thought this was a 1-off? as it seems to be not, why not set fastech to a max
archive size (Nodemgr/Max size) and be done with it?

How would you reconfig FE to do that?

See above..


Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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17 Jan 01 at 14:13, Steve Quarrella writes to Frank Vest:
I havn't read here lately (abviously),

Yeah, I'd say. <g>

Ah a sneakernet! I didn't think there were any of those left!

I have since gotten the LAN up and running here, and got around my original issue quite easily. Given that I'm a LAN administrator in the real world, I'm a dead man without a little bit of ethernet in my life!

I thought this was a 1-off? as it seems to be not, why not set
fastech to a max archive size (Nodemgr/Max size) and be done with
it?

As I recall, the issue was splitting up a large packet. Doing what you suggest
after the fact wouldn't have addressed the issue. <G>

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Hello there Steve!

19 Apr 01 at 13:14, Steve Quarrella writes to Barry Blackford:

17 Jan 01 at 14:13, Steve Quarrella writes to Frank Vest:
I havn't read here lately (abviously),

Yeah, I'd say. <g>

:-)

Ah a sneakernet! I didn't think there were any of those left!

I have since gotten the LAN up and running here, and got around
my original issue quite easily. Given that I'm a LAN
administrator in the real world, I'm a dead man without a little
bit of ethernet in my life!

Yep, I was surprised at the sneakernet to say the least!

I thought this was a 1-off? as it seems to be not, why not set
fastech to a max archive size (Nodemgr/Max size) and be done with
it?

As I recall, the issue was splitting up a large packet. Doing what you suggest after the fact wouldn't have addressed the issue. <G>

Oh well, my next suggestion was to use "SPLIT" which can be run from a batch file to split the files into specified sizes, it may help someone else, you never now..?

Best Rgds, Bazz
barry@glonet.co.nz
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