• windows fido point software

    From Eddy Thilleman@1:261/38.3 to All on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 14:52:02
    Hello All,

    For a friend of mine, I'm looking for windows fido point software, freeware is preferred.

    Message reader that support squish (preferred) and/or hudson messagebases, tosser, nodelist compiler.

    I've already a mailer for him, that's binkd for transport via internet.

    Suggestions? Does he need more?


    Greetings -=Eddy=-

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  • From BEN RITCHEY@1:393/68 to EDDY THILLEMAN on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 19:48:49
    * An ongoing debate between Eddy Thilleman and All rages on ...

    ET: > For a friend of mine, I'm looking for windows fido point software,
    ET: > freeware is preferred.

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  • From Eddy Thilleman@1:261/38.3 to Ben Ritchey on Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:12:47
    Hello Ben,

    Wednesday 27 November 2002 19:48, BEN RITCHEY wrote to EDDY THILLEMAN:

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    Thanks, I'll look into it.


    Greetings -=Eddy=-

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  • From Archie Swan@2:250/333.2 to Eddy Thilleman on Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:24:00
    Hi Eddy,

    You wrote to All on 27.11.02 about "windows fido point software":

    For a friend of mine, I'm looking for windows fido point
    software, freeware is preferred.

    Best to check in the POINTS echo to see what folks recommend
    Eddy.

    Message reader that support squish (preferred) and/or hudson
    messagebases, tosser, nodelist compiler.

    If Squish is *needed*, that will tend to limit the choices
    available. Hudson ? - not really recommended.
    Which suggests your choices could be from:

    PPoint - in one of its combinations. (uses Binkley etc. as its
    Mailer function),

    APoint - which provides JAM, MSG or its own proprietory message
    base. Has "normal" Fidonet Point facilities - and can be used
    for e-mail and NGs via an ISP. Mailer built-in, to which BINKD
    can be fitted relatively painlessly.

    I've already a mailer for him, that's binkd for transport via
    internet.

    Suggestions? Does he need more?

    Depends a lot on both his knowledge and capabilities, plus your
    know-how. So, as I wrote above - hook into the POINTS echo and
    ask about it Eddy.
    I'm sorta "prejudiced" <G>, but if the prospective Point is truly
    a newby - I daren't recommend the item I'm using.

    TTFN,

    Archie

    --- CrossPoint [OpenXP/16] v3.40 RC3 R
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  • From Eddy Thilleman@1:261/38.3 to Archie Swan on Friday, November 29, 2002 19:34:18
    Hello Archie,

    Thursday 28 November 2002 10:24, Archie Swan wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

    Best to check in the POINTS echo to see what folks recommend

    OK, just did.

    Message reader that support squish (preferred) and/or hudson
    messagebases, tosser, nodelist compiler.

    If Squish is *needed*, that will tend to limit the choices

    Squish is not really needed, but a messagebase which is supported by more message readers to choose between those message readers.

    PPoint - in one of its combinations. (uses Binkley etc. as its
    Mailer function),

    APoint - which provides JAM, MSG or its own proprietory message
    base. Has "normal" Fidonet Point facilities - and can be used
    for e-mail and NGs via an ISP. Mailer built-in, to which BINKD
    can be fitted relatively painlessly.

    I'll look into it, thanks.

    Depends a lot on both his knowledge and capabilities, plus your
    know-how. So, as I wrote above - hook into the POINTS echo and
    ask about it Eddy.

    He does have limited knowdledge about computers and programs, for more complicated setups he asks me.

    I'm sorta "prejudiced" <G>, but if the prospective Point is truly
    a newby - I daren't recommend the item I'm using.

    Why not?

    --- CrossPoint [OpenXP/16] v3.40 RC3 R

    You're using CrossPoint, but I don't know that program.


    Greetings -=Eddy=-

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    email: e.thilleman@freeler.nl
    e.thilleman@hccnet.nl

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  • From Michael Grant@1:134/11 to Eddy Thilleman on Sunday, December 01, 2002 01:07:54
    Hello Eddy.

    27 Nov 02 14:52, you wrote to All:

    For a friend of mine, I'm looking for windows fido point software, freeware is preferred.
    Message reader that support squish (preferred) and/or hudson
    messagebases, tosser, nodelist compiler.

    Sempoint will work, is freeware, and is a windows GUI reader. Don't use the internal importing and exporting features though, they're buggy. You can just use Squish to do the tossing and call Sempoint from a batch file; Sempoint can read the SQUISH.CFG file directly to see the message base. You could also use GEcho or Fastecho, and have message areas auto-added, then export a SQUISH.CFG file for Sempoint to read from the batch file, everytime you start up the reader. (They both have command line options to automate that.)
    For a nodelist compiler, I use QNode; it has never given me any trouble.

    I fixed up a downlink of mine with a similar setup, and he's very happy with it. It can be used for a full node, or a point, or both at the same time, by setting up multiple AKAs. I believe it also supports JAM and MSG, not sure about Hudson.

    Golded also works very well, but is more difficult to configure. There's lots of options in it's config file, almost to the point of overkill. That tends to scare some people, but usually most defaults in the config file work fine.


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  • From Archie Swan@2:250/333.2 to Eddy Thilleman on Sunday, December 01, 2002 19:47:00
    Hi Eddy,

    You wrote on 29.11.02 about "windows fido point software":

    [snip]
    Depends a lot on both his knowledge and capabilities, plus your
    know-how. So, as I wrote above - hook into the POINTS echo and
    ask about it Eddy.

    He does have limited knowdledge about computers and programs, for
    more complicated setups he asks me.

    Which *possibly* means that one of the more easy Point bundles,
    such as APoint, may be the better choice for him.

    I'm sorta "prejudiced" <G>, but if the prospective Point is
    truly a newby - I daren't recommend the item I'm using.

    Why not?

    Because:
    1. It uses a proprietory message-base for its normal operation.
    You appear to be looking for something which uses one of the
    "standard" message-bases which you have some experience with.

    2. Of more importance, CrossPoint (any of its versions) is quite
    "powerful" and has many options available in setting it into
    action. It *might* be too confusing for someone who is new to
    Point activities.

    e.g. Arjen Lentz's The-Box-Point might have been OK for a new
    Point; but a combination of Arjen's later Xenia Mailer plus its
    associated items would have given such a new Point many problems.

    --- CrossPoint [OpenXP/16] v3.40 RC3 R

    You're using CrossPoint, but I don't know that program.

    Maybe your RC, Jan Vermeulen, knows if someone has the suite
    locally to you. But here's where versions may be found on the
    Internet:-

    OpenXP/16 (DOS-16bit) -- http://www.op1.vbox.co.uk

    OpenXP/32 (DOS-32bit, Win32, Linux) -- http://www.openxp.com
    (the Win and Linux versions, as far as I know, are still in a
    Beta stage)

    XP2 (DOS-16bit) -- http://xp2.doskey.de

    Note: Both of the DOS-16bit versions will work fine under Win9x and OS/2.

    TTFN,

    Archie

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  • From Robert Bull@2:250/501.4 to Michael Grant on Sunday, December 01, 2002 20:46:42
    Hello, Michael;

    01 Dec 02 01:07, Michael Grant wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

    see the message base. You could also use GEcho or Fastecho, and have

    I didn't know Gecho supports Squish?

    both have command line options to automate that.) For a nodelist
    compiler, I use QNode; it has never given me any trouble.

    So do I, but I've heard some people have had problems with it on fast Pentiums.

    Regards,

    Robert.

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  • From Michael Grant@1:134/11 to Robert Bull on Sunday, December 01, 2002 23:06:11
    Hello Robert.

    01 Dec 02 20:46, you wrote to me:

    see the message base. You could also use GEcho or Fastecho, and
    have

    I didn't know Gecho supports Squish?

    Not 100% sure... It's been a pretty long time since I ran it. Version 1.00 was JAM and Hudson only, but I think there was a newer version released later that also supported Squish. (Maybe v1.30?) Bob Seaborn would know better than me.

    At any rate, GEcho will work with Sempoint, because Sempoint also supports JAM,
    and Gecho at the very least can export an AREAS.BBS file which Sempoint can read, the same as it can a SQUISH.CFG file.

    both have command line options to automate that.) For a
    nodelist compiler, I use QNode; it has never given me any
    trouble.

    So do I, but I've heard some people have had problems with it on fast Pentiums.

    It's an old program (my version is from 1996), but it's been around for a long time because it's a well-written program, that's proven reliable and able to handle almost anything you can throw at it. Lots of the older programs have trouble with 400+ MHz machines. If it was written in Turbo Pascal, there's a patch available.


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  • From Archie Swan@2:250/333.2 to Michael Grant on Monday, December 02, 2002 18:46:00
    Hi Michael,

    You wrote to Robert Bull on 01.12.02 about "windows fido point software":

    [snip]
    I didn't know Gecho supports Squish?

    Not 100% sure... It's been a pretty long time since I ran it.
    Version 1.00 was JAM and Hudson only,

    GECHO v1.00 could only handle Hudson and .MSG. (1992 vintage -
    JAM hadn't been invented at that time).

    but I think there was a newer version released later that
    also supported Squish. (Maybe v1.30?) Bob Seaborn would know
    better than me.

    It was in its later guises of 1.03 (?) etc. that its handling of
    JAM and others came into being. But - there were a number of
    discrete versions of it, which mean that if/when a SysOp wanted
    to have a mixture of message-base types on his/her system they
    would have to activate multiple modules of GECHO.

    TTFN,

    Archie

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  • From AUGUST ABOLINS@1:123/140 to ARCHIE SWAN on Thursday, January 02, 2003 01:52:34
    He does have limited knowdledge about computers and programs, for
    more complicated setups he asks me.

    Which *possibly* means that one of the more easy Point bundles,
    such as APoint, may be the better choice for him.

    Apoint (v1.25) is EXREMELY buggy on a Win/ME system. I've been trying to
    work with Apoint for the last few months and finally gave up because of the frustration.

    At this point BEEMAIL is a much better package
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  • From Martin Foster@2:250/501.2 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:33:48
    Hello AUGUST!

    02 Jan 03 at 01:52, AUGUST ABOLINS wrote to ARCHIE SWAN:

    He does have limited knowdledge about computers and programs,
    for
    more complicated setups he asks me.

    Which *possibly* means that one of the more easy Point bundles,
    such as APoint, may be the better choice for him.

    Apoint (v1.25) is EXREMELY buggy on a Win/ME system.

    I trust you've reported this to the author(s) ?

    Regards,
    Martin

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