Hey All,

Anyone know of a good Mail tosser that can handle Win32 Long File names? I've
been using FastEcho this whole time and while it's great, it doesn't handle LFNs at all, so if I have a LFN filename that I want it to handle,I have to use
the ~ notation. This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

Dan

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Hello Dan.

24 Mar 03 15:09, you wrote to all:

Anyone know of a good Mail tosser that can handle Win32 Long File
names? I've been using FastEcho this whole time and while it's great,
it doesn't handle LFNs at all, so if I have a LFN filename that I want
it to handle,I have to use the ~ notation. This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

Depends on what you're looking for. I use and recommend HPT but there is also a NT version of Squish that will handle long filenames.

Matt

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Howdy Dan?

Anyone know of a good Mail tosser that can handle Win32 Long File
names? I've been using FastEcho this whole time and while it's great,
it doesn't handle LFNs at all, so if I have a LFN filename that I want
it to handle,I have to use the ~ notation. This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

try using HPT.

/See ya Dan.
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Hello Denis.

25 Mar 03 06:54, you wrote to me:

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Howdy Dan?

Anyone know of a good Mail tosser that can handle Win32 Long
File names? I've been using FastEcho this whole time and while
it's great, it doesn't handle LFNs at all, so if I have a LFN
filename that I want it to handle,I have to use the ~ notation.
This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and
messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

try using HPT.

HPT (Huskey Power Tools) requires a compiler. I have no C compiler. Remember, I
said Win32, Not Linux :< Besides, Husky won't export a messages.ra file, and I consider that a requirement.

Dan

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Hello Matt.

24 Mar 03 21:47, you wrote to me:

Hello Dan.

24 Mar 03 15:09, you wrote to all:

Anyone know of a good Mail tosser that can handle Win32 Long
File names? I've been using FastEcho this whole time and while
it's great, it doesn't handle LFNs at all, so if I have a LFN
filename that I want it to handle,I have to use the ~ notation.
This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and
messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

Depends on what you're looking for. I use and recommend HPT but there
is also a NT version of Squish that will handle long filenames.

I've dealt with Husky. I really didn't like it that much. Ugliest setup I ever did see. And no ability to export messages.ra that I can recall. If it won't export to the messages.ra file, it is not an option for me.

Dan

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Hello Dan.

24 Mar 03 23:28, you wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

HPT (Huskey Power Tools) requires a compiler. I have no C compiler. Remember, I said Win32, Not Linux :< Besides, Husky won't export a messages.ra file, and I consider that a requirement.

Actually, this hub ran on Windows 2000 Server prior to being moved to FreeBSD. One of the nice things about Husky software is that the setup was virtually a drop in replacement. Instead of doing it all at once, I first converted the setup to Husky (while on Win32). Didn't actually anticipate on moving the hub to FreeBSD, that was unexpected, but being that its portable, all I had to do was change the pathnames and it was done!

Here is the site you need - http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1332

Notice there are Win32 executables. I recommend starting with the stable or beta release. The Husky setup is .. different .. but the best I have ever used. Then again, I am used to Unix and test based configuration files so I find it rather nice! It offers things I cannot do with any other tosser out there.

As for your messages.ra, that is a problem. Someone could code something to convert the config to the file rather easy. It just hasn't been done. As far as I know, only fastecho and fmail have that capability. Gecho has a conversion utility but gecho and fastecho don't do the LFN you want.

If fmail is still being worked on, might want to see if it's an issue they can address?

Matt

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Howdy Dan?

I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and
messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

try using HPT.

HPT (Huskey Power Tools)

Highly Portable Tosser :)

requires a compiler. I have no C compiler.
Remember, I said Win32, Not Linux :< Besides, Husky won't export a messages.ra file, and I consider that a requirement.

There are win32 binaries at http://hpt-bin.boom.ru (or http://hpt-bin.narod.ru ?)


/See ya Dan.
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Hello Dan!

Mar 24 23:30 03, Dan Egli wrote to Matt Bedynek:

I've dealt with Husky. I really didn't like it that much. Ugliest
setup I ever did see.

Well, if you aren't familier with textbased configuration, keep your fingers away from that.

I'm scure that i can add a node faster than you.

And no ability to export messages.ra that I can
recall. If it won't export to the messages.ra file, it is not an
option for me.

Can't RA not import a Areas.bbs file? If it can't it sux..

Regards,
Bo

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Hello Matt.

25 Mar 03 03:30, you wrote to me:

Hello Dan.

24 Mar 03 23:28, you wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

HPT (Huskey Power Tools) requires a compiler. I have no C
compiler. Remember, I said Win32, Not Linux :< Besides, Husky
won't export a messages.ra file, and I consider that a
requirement.

Actually, this hub ran on Windows 2000 Server prior to being moved to FreeBSD. One of the nice things about Husky software is that the setup
was virtually a drop in replacement. Instead of doing it all at once,
I first converted the setup to Husky (while on Win32). Didn't
actually anticipate on moving the hub to FreeBSD, that was unexpected,
but being that its portable, all I had to do was change the pathnames
and it was done!

Here is the site you need - http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1332

Notice there are Win32 executables. I recommend starting with the
stable or beta release. The Husky setup is .. different .. but the
best I have ever used. Then again, I am used to Unix and test based configuration files so I find it rather nice! It offers things I
cannot do with any other tosser out there.

As for your messages.ra, that is a problem. Someone could code
something to convert the config to the file rather easy. It just
hasn't been done. As far as I know, only fastecho and fmail have that capability. Gecho has a conversion utility but gecho and fastecho
don't do the LFN you want.

If fmail is still being worked on, might want to see if it's an issue
they can address?

As I just stated in another echo (Argus), FMail is driving me up the wall. It INSISTS on making the first echo area number 201. I want the echos starting at 20, not 201. But no matter what I try the exported file always puts echos at 201. Driving me batty and making me want to purge fmail from my system.

Dan

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Hello Denis.

25 Mar 03 17:05, you wrote to me:

HPT (Huskey Power Tools)

Highly Portable Tosser :)

Ok, ok, Whatever :>
Thats part of the Husky project :> And as I stated, Husky
won't write a messages.ra for me. If it won't make setup of the
messages.ra file simple, I don't want to use it. I know it's a
good tosser. I've used it in the past, but it just does not
have all the features I need.

Again, here is my requirement list. 1-3 are requirements, 4 is optional but would be nice

1) Support Win32 Long File Names
2) Have a Maintanance tool for Packing/Purging/Deleting/Sorting/Indexing/etc. msgbases
3) Export a messages.ra file (not necessarily automaticly, but needs to be able
to create one), in the format I specify. I.e. Fmail keeps putting echos at 201+. I don't WANT them at 201+. 201+ is for Usenet Newsgroups, NOT Fido echos. 4) (optional) ability to read a fido nodelist (text/v6/v7/propriatery/etc..) and use nodelist flags to make routing decisions on exported netmail.

And of course must support Hudson and JAM.

There are win32 binaries at http://hpt-bin.boom.ru (or http://hpt-bin.narod.ru ?)

Thanks anyway, but HPT is a no go.

Dan

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Hello Bo.

25 Mar 03 16:58, you wrote to me:

Hello Dan!

Mar 24 23:30 03, Dan Egli wrote to Matt Bedynek:

I've dealt with Husky. I really didn't like it that much. Ugliest

setup I ever did see.

Well, if you aren't familier with textbased configuration, keep your fingers away from that.

I'm scure that i can add a node faster than you.

Speed doesn't matter that much to me (speed of setting up at least). I understand the config (and I do understand text based config files, it just seemed exceedingly cumbersome to me).

Can't RA not import a Areas.bbs file? If it can't it sux..

No, there is no way of importing an areas.bbs file, but guess what? MOST BBS PACKAGES CANNOT DO THAT. IN FACT, I don't know of any that can! Appearently you
do, but the fact that I don't and I am familiar with quite a few packages indicates that it is far from a common feature.

Dan

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Hello Dan!

Mar 26 00:00 03, Dan Egli wrote to Bo Simonsen:

Speed doesn't matter that much to me (speed of setting up at least).
I understand the config (and I do understand text based config files,
it just seemed exceedingly cumbersome to me).

Ok, i like husky and mbse, because you only should add a link once.

Can't RA not import a Areas.bbs file? If it can't it sux..

No, there is no way of importing an areas.bbs file, but guess what?
MOST BBS PACKAGES CANNOT DO THAT. IN FACT, I don't know of any that
can!

I know that Synchronet and EleBBS can.

Regards,
Bo

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No, there is no way of importing an areas.bbs file, but guess what? MOST BBS PACKAGES CANNOT DO THAT. IN FACT, I don't know of any that can! Appearently

I know that Synchronet can import an AREAS.BBS file. I think EleBBS
can too.

Later,
Sean

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Hello Bo.

26 Mar 03 14:17, you wrote to me:

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Hello Dan!

Mar 26 00:00 03, Dan Egli wrote to Bo Simonsen:

Speed doesn't matter that much to me (speed of setting up at
least). I understand the config (and I do understand text based
config files, it just seemed exceedingly cumbersome to me).

Ok, i like husky and mbse, because you only should add a link once.

Can't RA not import a Areas.bbs file? If it can't it sux..

No, there is no way of importing an areas.bbs file, but guess
what? MOST BBS PACKAGES CANNOT DO THAT. IN FACT, I don't know of
any that can!

I know that Synchronet and EleBBS can.

I'm running EleBBs and I don't recall seeing any way to import an areas.bbs. Leme go look again...

Just looked again, and I can see no way to import an areas.bbs. If you think it
can, then pray tell, explain how it is to be done :>

Dan

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Hello Dan.

26 Mar 03 09:59, you wrote to me:

I know that Synchronet and EleBBS can.

I'm running EleBBs and I don't recall seeing any way to import an areas.bbs. Leme go look again...

Ask maarten baakers i wrote a elexer script for it

Bo

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Hello Dan!

25 Mar 03 09:31, Dan Egli wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

Highly Portable Tosser :)

Thats part of the Husky project :> And as I stated, Husky
won't write a messages.ra for me.

What does a "messages.ra" file consist of? And has anyone mentioned this in
the husky echo?
The project already has other converter files for various programs; perhaps
one could be created that as well...




Regards,
Jame

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Hello Jame.

29 Mar 03 08:40, you wrote to me:

Hello Dan!

25 Mar 03 09:31, Dan Egli wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

Highly Portable Tosser :)

Thats part of the Husky project :> And as I stated, Husky
won't write a messages.ra for me.

What does a "messages.ra" file consist of? And has anyone
mentioned this in the husky echo?
The project already has other converter files for various programs; perhaps one could be created that as well...

I don't have the husky echo, but if you want it I can post a copy of the message.ra pascal structures here (or netmail them if you have a binkp server running). Husky is a decent tosser, no doubt, but I have figured out what I am going to do with Fastecho :> But I'm still willing to help husky out :>


Dan

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Hi Dan,

What does a "messages.ra" file consist of? And has anyone
mentioned this in the husky echo?

I don't have the husky echo,

If you want it, it's FIDOSOFT.HUSKY & should be on the at least some of the backbone distributions... (It's certainly on the WWB...)

but if you want it I can post a copy of the message.ra pascal structures here

How big are they?

(or netmail them if you have a binkp server running).

I have binkp capabilities both here & at my FTN mail server (1:120/544). If they can be contained in the message, you can send 'em to me here at the bbs (bbs.rocasa.net); if as a file attach, please send 'em to f544.n120.z1.fidonet.net...



Jame


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Hello Jame.

30 Mar 03 21:14, you wrote to Dan Egli:

I don't have the husky echo,

If you want it, it's FIDOSOFT.HUSKY & should be on the at least
some of the backbone distributions... (It's certainly on the WWB...)

Yep, so it might be reached if your uplink/boss supports forward requests.. Most tossers do at this time.

Bo

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Hello Denis.

25 Mar 03 06:54, you wrote to Dan Egli:

This is a MAJOR pain in the butt.
I tried FMail, but it keeps destroying my messages.ra and
messages.ele files. So I don't think it's an option.

try using HPT.

http://husky.sf.net/ or if you want to compile, take all from here

=== Cut ===
#!/bin/sh
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.husky.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/husky co .
=== Cut ===

same codebase on all programs and multi os :)

stable on linux now

Benny

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Hello Dan.

24 Mar 03 23:28, you wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

HPT (Huskey Power Tools)

no not that :)

do not read this page http://husky.sf.net/

requires a compiler. I have no C compiler.
Remember, I said Win32, Not Linux :< Besides, Husky won't export a messages.ra file, and I consider that a requirement.

??

tell me more about messages.ra :)


Benny

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Hello Dan.

25 Mar 03 09:31, you wrote to Denis N. Voituk:

Thanks anyway, but HPT is a no go.

hpt flyes here :)


Benny

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HPT (Huskey Power Tools)

no not that :)

do not read this page http://husky.sf.net/

Ok. Highly Portable Tosser. Still not for me. :> I am happy with FMail.

tell me more about messages.ra :)

What do you want to know? It's the message base description file. It's a pascal file of records. I can forward you the record structure if you want.


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Thanks anyway, but HPT is a no go.

hpt flyes here :)

I'm sure it does. I have never said HPT is not good software. I simply said it's not for me in this instance. If I was still trying to run EleBBS/Linux, I'd be using HPT :>

--- Dan

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Re: Win32 compatable Mail tosser
By: Benny Pedersen to Denis N. Voituk on Fri Apr 25 2003 03:58 am

http://husky.sf.net/ or if you want to compile, take all from here

same codebase on all programs and multi os :)

Will it compile under DJGPP?
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Hello Robert.

25 Apr 03 09:45, you wrote to me:

Will it compile under DJGPP?

=== Cut ===
# DJGPP makefile
#

DEBUG = -s -g -pedantic
# set to -g for debugging

CC = gcc
EXENAMEFLAG = -o
CFLAGS = -Wno-long-long -Wall -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fstrength-reduce $(DEBUG)
LFLAGS = $(DEBUG)
CINCL = -I../h -I../../huskylib -I../../smapi -I../../fidoconf
CDEFS = -DMSDOS -mcpu=i486
OBJOPT = -c

OBJ = .o
EXE = .exe
RM = del

SRC_DIR = ../src/

LIBS = ../../fidoconf/make/fconfdjg.a ../../smapi/make/smapidjg.a ../../huskylib/make/huskydjg.a

default: all

%$(OBJ): $(SRC_DIR)%.c
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(CINCL) $(CDEFS) $(OBJOPT) $^

include makefile.inc
all: commonprogs
clean: commonclean
distclean: commondistclean
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more questions ?



Benny

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