Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need
to send one liners

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need
to send one liners
as fast as we can.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need
to send one liners
as fast as we can.

If a new node can't wait a week

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need
to send one liners
as fast as we can.

If a new node can't wait a week
then a quickshot node

Regards

Kai

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Hello Nick!

16 May 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

I don't.

I don't see any need
to send one liners
as fast as we can.

If a new node can't wait a week
then a quickshot node
is gone faster than he came.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Kai!

15 May 21 10:07, you wrote to me:

It's obviuos, it would bounce them back to the originating node.

Yes. I had that twice this year.

Wow, really annoying...

[...]

Are you seious? :D

Yes.

Sigh. :(

[...]

Daily lists don't have diffs. ;)

The question is what is your conclusion?

Mine is a misuse of a software that is not designed for the job.

My conclusion is that is a misuse for you, but it's simple, you can still run weekly nodelists and leave everyone else to do exactly what they wants.

I don't want to change your mind, probably the weekly nodelist
suits your needs, my need, instead, is to have a daily updated
nodelist.

Why can't that wait for weekly revision?

I wrote it in my previous message, I'ts useful when I onboard new nodes to the net, so, every node in my Region can send routed netmails through my node to the new node.

I'll kind ask the new sysop to no contact your node/points until the weekly new nodelist will be released, so no any bounces to you. :D

[...]

If the new node of the daily nodelist would write in public any
netmail answers could bounce on the next tracker that does not use the daily list. When that happend to me my question was "whats wrong with
the routing, my mail bounced?"

Is It too hard to look at your nodelist and check if the node is in?
And you're supposing that everyone would answer with a netmail to an echomail message.

To avoid that all fidonet systems have to switch to daily nodelists.
Then the whole network effort is increased by the 26600%.

For me, it's a conspiracy of the strong powers ...

Ciao!
Fabio
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Hello Nick!

16 May 21 09:00, you wrote to Kai Richter:

A change from weekly to daily nodelists would have severe
consequences. The official sequence for offline systems is one
revision cycle on hold, on the next cycle down and on the third
cycle removed. This would offer a timefram of two weeks for a
broken node system to order spare parts, repair the syst and
recover online status. A daily revision would reduce that time to
two d

LOL!!! What are you smoking?

Good stuff, I'm tempted to ask him where he found it... :D

Ciao!
Fabio
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Hello Fabio!

17 May 21, Fabio Bizzi wrote to Kai Richter:

Daily lists don't have diffs. ;)

Mine is a misuse of a software that is not designed for the job.

My conclusion is that is a misuse for you, but it's simple, you can
still run weekly nodelists and leave everyone else to do exactly what
they wants.

I do. And i do talk about that topic because of...

It's obviuos, it would bounce them back to the originating node.

Yes. I had that twice this year.

Wow, really annoying...

...your definitin is annoying behavior too.

I don't want to change your mind, probably the weekly nodelist
suits your needs, my need, instead, is to have a daily updated
nodelist.

Why can't that wait for weekly revision?

I wrote it in my previous message, I'ts useful when I onboard new
nodes to the net, so, every node in my Region can send routed netmails through my node to the new node.

The same will happen with the weekly nodelist. I do know "why" we have a nodelist, the questions is "daily". Your reason can be solved with a private nodelist on your system. It would publish the new node to the tracker and the mail isn't bounced. Annoying behavior solved without "official" nodelist.

I'll kind ask the new sysop to no contact your node/points until the weekly new nodelist will be released, so no any bounces to you. :D

Good advice! Look at that situation. The node is there but you ask him not to publish an echomail to other nodes. Then why do we need daily nodelists?

A new node can crash to any known nodes in the nodelist. I'm not sure how strict the trackers are, if they don't check the destination only then a new node could route his contact information to nodes he needs to talk with before he is in the weekly nodelist.

If the new node of the daily nodelist would write in public any
netmail answers could bounce on the next tracker that does not
use the daily list. When that happend to me my question was
"whats wrong with the routing, my mail bounced?"

Is It too hard to look at your nodelist and check if the node is in?

I did and he was not in. That's the reason why the tracker bounced the netmail.

And you're supposing that everyone would answer with a netmail to an echomail message.

No, not everyone. If one does then he could get an annoying bounce.
If nobody does then again: Why do we need daily lists?

To avoid that all fidonet systems have to switch to daily
nodelists. Then the whole network effort is increased by the
26600%.

For me, it's a conspiracy of the strong powers ...

For me it's a review what's going on. The use of daily lists is an unreliable seven days limited advantage for new nodes only. Nodes pull and process informations that they already have except one missing line each day.

Regards

Kai

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