• RAR

    From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Janis Kracht on Saturday, November 28, 2015 17:16:44
    Hello Janis!

    I can say don't use the latest linux version 5.21 rar to run rar c <filehdr
    rar has some error there not work with put file header to rar splits files.
    the old linux version 5.20 is better to do with.
    when do rar 5.21 to
    rar c "file.r*" <filegate.hdr
    gives error by run this in the split of rar files.

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Gert Andersen on Saturday, November 28, 2015 22:10:56
    Hi Gert,

    I can say don't use the latest linux version 5.21 rar to run rar c <filehdr rar has some error there not work with put file header to rar splits files. the old linux version 5.20 is better to do with.
    when do rar 5.21 to
    rar c "file.r*" <filegate.hdr
    gives error by run this in the split of rar files.

    Hmm.. not sure what version Ubuntu uses, I'd have to check. I've got a pretty old version on this system, I think it's 4.3 or something very old like that.

    I picked up the latest version of Rar this evening but I'll test it first and see if something like you describe happens. If it seems to work ok, then I'll hatch it out.

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Gert Andersen on Saturday, November 28, 2015 23:11:30
    Hi Gert,

    I can say don't use the latest linux version 5.21 rar to run rar c <filehdr rar has some error there not work with put file header to rar splits files. the old linux version 5.20 is better to do with.
    when do rar 5.21 to
    rar c "file.r*" <filegate.hdr
    gives error by run this in the split of rar files.

    I just used the newest version, 5.30 and it is working fine.

    I used this syntax to comment the file I tested:

    rar c chatto.rar -zfilegate.hdr

    I don't use the < (redirection, or greater-than symbol), I use -z as above.

    Does that work for you?

    Take care,
    Janis

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    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Janis Kracht on Sunday, November 29, 2015 09:37:20
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Janis!

    Sat Nov 28 2015, Janis Kracht wrote to Gert Andersen:

    * Forwarded from area 'FILEGATE'
    Hi Gert,

    I can say don't use the latest linux version 5.21 rar to run rar c
    <filehdr rar has some error there not work with put file header to rar
    splits files. the old linux version 5.20 is better to do with.
    when do rar 5.21 to
    rar c "file.r*" <filegate.hdr
    gives error by run this in the split of rar files.

    I just used the newest version, 5.30 and it is working fine.

    I used this syntax to comment the file I tested:

    rar c chatto.rar -zfilegate.hdr

    I don't use the < (redirection, or greater-than symbol), I use -z as
    above.

    Does that work for you?


    I can try it out to se if it works when I have files as .r00 .r01 .r02 .rar


    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Janis Kracht on Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:02:44
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Janis!

    Sat Nov 28 2015, Janis Kracht wrote to Gert Andersen:

    I can say don't use the latest linux version 5.21 rar to run rar c
    <filehdr rar has some error there not work with put file header to rar
    splits files. the old linux version 5.20 is better to do with.
    when do rar 5.21 to
    rar c "file.r*" <filegate.hdr
    gives error by run this in the split of rar files.

    I just used the newest version, 5.30 and it is working fine.

    I used this syntax to comment the file I tested:

    rar c chatto.rar -zfilegate.hdr

    I don't use the < (redirection, or greater-than symbol), I use -z as
    above.

    Does that work for you?

    Yes now is it work again.
    I have 3-4 script files for MacOS file and it is the game with the other game files.
    mgamemove.sh there moves and check the files to games/gmac/work
    mgsplit2rar.sh pack by split rar files
    mgamehdr.sh there add header into the game files for Mac files
    mgamehatch.sh there is check and addhdr and the hatch the files out.

    So now no errors in the split files after I change use of <gmsfile.hdr to -zgmsfile.hdr
    is it files for lnx4games is it only zip files there have addhdr.sh
    there do 3-4 functions.
    cd to lnx4wrk
    cp /home/ftp/new/filegate/filegate.hdr /home/kofo/header/
    cat /home/kofo/header/filegate.hdr /home/kofo/header/kofobbs.hdr fgate.hdr FILE=[filename.zip]
    zip -z @FILE <fgate.hdr

    if it is a rar file is I now using rar c "filename.r*" -zfgate.hdr
    but it is only for MACOS files there is bigger than linux and Windows files.

    So it works with rar again, there some PASMAC file for fpc300 (Free Pacacal compiler).


    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Gert Andersen on Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:17:04
    Hi Gert,

    I used this syntax to comment the file I tested:
    rar c chatto.rar -zfilegate.hdr

    I don't use the < (redirection, or greater-than symbol), I use -z as
    above.

    Does that work for you?

    Yes now is it work again.

    Good. I was hoping it was something like that causing the problem :)

    zip -z @FILE <fgate.hdr

    if it is a rar file is I now using rar c "filename.r*" -zfgate.hdr
    but it is only for MACOS files there is bigger than linux and Windows files.

    Ok, makes sense.

    So it works with rar again, there some PASMAC file for fpc300 (Free Pacacal compiler).

    Glad to hear it. I've always used rar in this way (-zfile.hdr). I never have used the redirection symbol with it. I guess just a habit :)

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Janis Kracht on Sunday, November 29, 2015 19:39:26
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Janis!

    Sun Nov 29 2015, Janis Kracht wrote to Gert Andersen:

    I used this syntax to comment the file I tested:
    rar c chatto.rar -zfilegate.hdr

    I don't use the < (redirection, or greater-than symbol), I use -z as
    above.

    Does that work for you?

    Yes now is it work again.

    Good. I was hoping it was something like that causing the problem :)

    There must be something there got changed in rar of add header from 5.2.0 to 5.2.1 and after it.
    My way to get installed rar and unrar and other packers is by gentoo's emerge rar and the file name.
    the linux system by gentoo as emerge is not full updated for rar and unrar, it takes v5.2.1 and 5.1.6
    but with zip and unzip has it the newest version now.

    zip -z @FILE <fgate.hdr

    if it is a rar file is I now using rar c "filename.r*" -zfgate.hdr
    but it is only for MACOS files there is bigger than linux and Windows
    files.

    Ok, makes sense.

    So it works with rar again, there some PASMAC file for fpc300 (Free
    Pacacal compiler).

    Glad to hear it. I've always used rar in this way (-zfile.hdr). I
    never have used the redirection symbol with it. I guess just a habit
    :)

    It makes now that my gmsnet has a new working rar files for dmd1155M and there is to soon come dmd1156 there is on way in the next day, as it got for both linux, Windows and maybe MAC OS too as version Dooms Engine 1.15.6
    dmdX is Doomsday Engine complete files
    dde200X is Doomsday Engine build xxxx files
    So only complete version is full version and dde200 is 2.0.0 in work with build
    versions.

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Gert Andersen on Sunday, November 29, 2015 15:52:48
    Hi Gert,

    Good. I was hoping it was something like that causing the problem :)

    There must be something there got changed in rar of add header from 5.2.0 to 5.2.1 and after it.

    Probably... or maybe in the libraries of gentoo. And then again, I'm running an older version of Ubuntu, v12.5 LTS, I think. I don't know about the most recent version of Ubuntu :)

    My way to get installed rar and unrar and other packers is by gentoo's emerge rar and the file name.
    the linux system by gentoo as emerge is not full updated for rar and unrar, it
    takes v5.2.1 and 5.1.6
    but with zip and unzip has it the newest version now.

    Understand. :)

    Glad to hear it. I've always used rar in this way (-zfile.hdr). I
    never have used the redirection symbol with it. I guess just a habit
    :)

    It makes now that my gmsnet has a new working rar files for dmd1155M and there
    is to soon come dmd1156 there is on way in the next day, as it got for both linux, Windows and maybe MAC OS too as version Dooms Engine 1.15.6
    dmdX is Doomsday Engine complete files
    dde200X is Doomsday Engine build xxxx files
    So only complete version is full version and dde200 is 2.0.0 in work with buil
    versions.

    So far, some people have let me know in email and netmail that they are not interested in the Windows versions of those games. The files are too large, and they just jam up their systems because of the total size. Splitting doesn't help, because still the "original" same file length must go out <g>.

    So you can stop sending me the Windows games files. I guess people can get it themselves online if they want it.

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so if they are not gigantic, I can send those out if you send them over here. Again, I don't like sending out anything larger than 30M though. It's just too big :(

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Janis Kracht on Monday, November 30, 2015 09:21:16
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Janis!

    Sun Nov 29 2015, Janis Kracht wrote to Gert Andersen:

    Good. I was hoping it was something like that causing the problem :)

    There must be something there got changed in rar of add header from
    5.2.0 to 5.2.1 and after it.

    Probably... or maybe in the libraries of gentoo. And then again, I'm
    running an older version of Ubuntu, v12.5 LTS, I think. I don't know
    about the most recent version of Ubuntu :)

    I run a older verson of Gentoo on my main fido system as there is some problem with husky Msged there give my gentoo memory error, but on my 3 other fido systems is it a newer Gentoo version and here is it not husky on any of them as
    it is mbsebbs there run here with golded as editor.

    My way to get installed rar and unrar and other packers is by gentoo's
    emerge rar and the file name.
    the linux system by gentoo as emerge is not full updated for rar and
    unrar, it takes v5.2.1 and 5.1.6
    but with zip and unzip has it the newest version now.

    Understand. :)

    Glad to hear it. I've always used rar in this way (-zfile.hdr). I
    never have used the redirection symbol with it. I guess just a habit
    :)

    It makes now that my gmsnet has a new working rar files for dmd1155M and
    there is to soon come dmd1156 there is on way in the next day, as it got
    for both linux, Windows and maybe MAC OS too as version Dooms Engine
    1.15.6 dmdX is Doomsday Engine complete files
    dde200X is Doomsday Engine build xxxx files
    So only complete version is full version and dde200 is 2.0.0 in work with
    buil versions.

    So far, some people have let me know in email and netmail that they are
    not interested in the Windows versions of those games. The files are
    too large, and they just jam up their systems because of the total
    size. Splitting doesn't help, because still the "original" same file
    length must go out <g>.

    So you can stop sending me the Windows games files. I guess people can
    get it themselves online if they want it.

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so if
    they are not gigantic, I can send those out if you send them over here.
    Again, I don't like sending out anything larger than 30M though. It's
    just too big :(

    The Windows version of those games is about 30-32M and the MACOS is more Large like 50M so it is been split to be about 16-20M for each files.

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Janis Kracht on Monday, November 30, 2015 14:44:58

    29 Nov 15 15:52, you wrote to Gert Andersen:

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so if

    probably because there are few to no MAC users in fidonet any more... if there are, they get their files from the internet like 99% of the other folks do these days...

    )\/(ark

    "So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
    you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
    glorious revolution from the next one?"
    - The twelfth Doctor

    ... Your call will be ignored in the order it was received.
    ---
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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to mark lewis on Monday, November 30, 2015 19:37:02
    Hi Mark,

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so if

    probably because there are few to no MAC users in fidonet any more... if there
    are, they get their files from the internet like 99% of the other folks do these days...

    Yeah, that is what I finally came to as well in my mind today.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-2
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  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Gert Andersen on Monday, November 30, 2015 12:30:12
    Hello Gert!

    Monday November 30 2015 09:21, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so
    if they are not gigantic, I can send those out if you send them
    over here. Again, I don't like sending out anything larger than
    30M though. It's just too big :(

    The Windows version of those games is about 30-32M and the MACOS is
    more Large like 50M so it is been split to be about 16-20M for each
    files.


    The Win games (engines) are updated weekly or more often.

    Any one interested in them can get 'the' latest via their url.

    We do not need this file being updated and sent out within filegate so often.

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete waste of bandwidth - Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50 Kb.




    Vince

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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Vince Coen on Tuesday, December 01, 2015 09:04:16
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Vince!

    Mon Nov 30 2015, Vince Coen wrote to Gert Andersen:

    I have not heard any complaints about the MAC versions though, so
    if they are not gigantic, I can send those out if you send them
    over here. Again, I don't like sending out anything larger than
    30M though. It's just too big :(

    The Windows version of those games is about 30-32M and the MACOS is
    more Large like 50M so it is been split to be about 16-20M for each
    files.


    The Win games (engines) are updated weekly or more often.

    Any one interested in them can get 'the' latest via their url.

    We do not need this file being updated and sent out within filegate so
    often.

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete
    waste of
    bandwidth - Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50
    Kb.

    The dde200W files is send to Janis once a week and the dmd115XW is only been updated as new version once a month.

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Gert Andersen on Tuesday, December 01, 2015 09:27:30

    01 Dec 15 09:04, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    We do not need this file being updated and sent out within filegate
    so often.

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete
    waste of bandwidth - Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds
    e.g., 40-50 Kb.

    The dde200W files is send to Janis once a week and the dmd115XW is
    only been updated as new version once a month.

    i think the point is that no one is downloading them from any BBSes... the chances of there being any MAC users downloading it from a BBS are extremely low... if/when anyone wants this one, they are going to the same place you are and getting it themselves... hatching such huge files that no one is downloading from any BBSes is a huge waste of bandwidth...

    heck, even with my own good sized file base, i find it much easier and faster to use FF to search google for a file i'm after and download it... yes, my system comes up in those results but only for the files i already have... not the new versions... i can search, download and install as fast or faster than i
    can find them in my own filebase...

    )\/(ark

    "So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
    you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
    glorious revolution from the next one?"
    - The twelfth Doctor

    ... The bigger the hat, the smaller the farm.
    ---
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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Vince Coen on Tuesday, December 01, 2015 12:05:42
    Hi Vince!

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete waste of bandwidth

    Same for me.. I would bet that's true even for the Linux versions...

    Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50 Kb.

    Yes, sometimes I can't believe how the U.S. handles upload/download speeds :( We have about 58Mbps Download, and on a good day, 5.8 Mbps upload.. god forbid the cable provider should give people the same download speed as their upload speed :( :(

    I can switch you to crash send, Vince.. that will help a lot. My system crashes mail and files to a lot of people, so it won't hurt to send to you that
    way.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-2
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Janis Kracht on Tuesday, December 01, 2015 19:51:18

    01 Dec 15 12:05, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete
    waste of bandwidth

    Same for me.. I would bet that's true even for the Linux versions...

    same here and likely on most every other BBS carrying the area in question...

    Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50 Kb.

    Yes, sometimes I can't believe how the U.S. handles upload/download
    speeds :( We have about 58Mbps Download, and on a good day, 5.8 Mbps upload.. god forbid the cable provider should give people the same download speed as their upload speed :( :(

    it is a commercialization problem... greedy fscks and bean counters are running
    the ops, these days... the thought is that the majority of transactions are downloads to the client systems... anything that is running servers should be paying for commercial access for uploading speeds to be equal or greater than download speeds...

    I can switch you to crash send, Vince.. that will help a lot. My
    system crashes mail and files to a lot of people, so it won't hurt to
    send to you that way.

    that might help but it depends on your upload speed and how full your pipe is at the time of the transfer...

    )\/(ark

    "So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
    you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
    glorious revolution from the next one?"
    - The twelfth Doctor

    ... You never know when the Typo Fairy will stike.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Janis Kracht on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:18:07
    Hello Janis!

    Tuesday December 01 2015 12:05, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vince!

    I have not had any downloads of these files so for me are a complete
    waste of bandwidth

    Same for me.. I would bet that's true even for the Linux versions...

    Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50 Kb.

    Yes, sometimes I can't believe how the U.S. handles upload/download
    speeds :( We have about 58Mbps Download, and on a good day, 5.8 Mbps upload.. god forbid the cable provider should give people the same
    download speed as their upload speed :( :(

    I can switch you to crash send, Vince.. that will help a lot. My
    system crashes mail and files to a lot of people, so it won't hurt to
    send to you that way.

    Sounds like a plan - please do so and after a few days I will switch off polling you. That way you can send to me when your system has light traffic processes running - may be.

    My broadband seems to have increased over the last month or so from 8 Mb / 800Kb to 18Mb down / 1.2Mb up.


    The new house will have speeds from 40, 74, 100, 150 - its more a question of wallet and as we are retired it will be the most cost effective one that gives 20Mb upload and 70 - 80 down.

    At least that way, my downlinks can get their files and be gone quickly.
    Not that my system is being stretched in any way with a 8 core AMD FX 8350. Read that as a 4 core Intel type - AMD lie.


    Vince

    --- Mageia Linux v5/Mbse v1.0.6/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.501-b20150715
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK (2:250/1)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to mark lewis on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 10:38:14
    Hi Mark,

    same here and likely on most every other BBS carrying the area in question...

    Yeah... I can see the 'once in a while big file' going through our distribution
    but not every week...

    Janis's system as she has slow upload speeds e.g., 40-50 Kb.

    Yes, sometimes I can't believe how the U.S. handles upload/download
    speeds :( We have about 58Mbps Download, and on a good day, 5.8 Mbps
    upload.. god forbid the cable provider should give people the same
    download speed as their upload speed :( :(

    it is a commercialization problem... greedy fscks and bean counters are runnin
    the ops, these days... the thought is that the majority of transactions are downloads to the client systems... anything that is running servers should be paying for commercial access for uploading speeds to be equal or greater than download speeds...

    That's what they hit us with because we run servers, and we do pay a business rate. Sickening... part of that is Ron's having to run test beds of servers, and his company does compensate us for that (sort of) with expense reports. Of
    course our ISP also considers a binkD server a "server" Lol Anyway, we take into account 'my servers' when he puts in his expense report, so we don't get a
    ton back from those expense reports, of course... but it's something.

    I can switch you to crash send, Vince.. that will help a lot. My
    system crashes mail and files to a lot of people, so it won't hurt to
    send to you that way.

    that might help but it depends on your upload speed and how full your pipe is at the time of the transfer...

    I have two nodes out of 15 that I dedicate to the people I crash to.. Those two
    nodes get real busy first when anything goes out from here with those folks. When file announcements, etc. go out, that's when the other nodes get 'busy'. And yes, sometimes all the nodes are full up and things umm.. s l o w d o w n :)

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-2
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Vince Coen on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 10:53:12
    Hi Vince,

    I can switch you to crash send, Vince.. that will help a lot. My
    system crashes mail and files to a lot of people, so it won't hurt to
    send to you that way.

    Sounds like a plan - please do so and after a few days I will switch off polling you. That way you can send to me when your system has light traffic processes running - may be.

    hehe.. I let BBBS decide who gets the crash traffic "first" generally.. It seems to work well so far. Sometimes if I see the system really bogged down, I'll pause one of two Crash nodes' traffic until the major plug passes <grin>. I don't have to do that very often really though. I think this will work fine.

    My broadband seems to have increased over the last month or so from 8 Mb / 800Kb to 18Mb down / 1.2Mb up.

    Understand that one.

    The new house will have speeds from 40, 74, 100, 150 - its more a question of >wallet and as we are retired it will be the most cost effective one that gives
    20Mb upload and 70 - 80 down.

    That will be really nice for you, I'm sure :)

    At least that way, my downlinks can get their files and be gone quickly.
    Not that my system is being stretched in any way with a 8 core AMD FX 8350. Read that as a 4 core Intel type - AMD lie.

    I know what you mean there :) Still sounds like a good system.

    This is an HP 5 core... does the job, and I grabbed it in a pinch when my last system died.. we don't usually buy prebuilt systems but this one was there, and
    I was in a hurry... Works for me :)

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-2
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Janis Kracht on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 18:28:29
    Hello Janis!

    Wednesday December 02 2015 10:53, you wrote to me:

    At least that way, my downlinks can get their files and be gone
    quickly. Not that my system is being stretched in any way with a 8
    core AMD FX 8350. Read that as a 4 core Intel type - AMD lie.

    I know what you mean there :) Still sounds like a good system.

    This is an HP 5 core... does the job, and I grabbed it in a pinch when
    my last system died.. we don't usually buy prebuilt systems but this
    one was there, and I was in a hurry... Works for me :)

    Sound like on a par a midrange 4 core assuming below i4770 (which was the last time I looked) before going AMD - a lot cheaper for mobo, cpu etc. Should have
    saved up a bit more though but it does the job as there are 212 processes and load is around zero with uploads occuring but the ibm mainframe stuff is not running yet.

    Keep well,


    Vince

    --- Mageia Linux v5/Mbse v1.0.6/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.501-b20150715
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK (2:250/1)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Vince Coen on Thursday, December 03, 2015 00:06:12
    Hi Vince!

    At least that way, my downlinks can get their files and be gone
    quickly. Not that my system is being stretched in any way with a 8
    core AMD FX 8350. Read that as a 4 core Intel type - AMD lie.

    I know what you mean there :) Still sounds like a good system.

    This is an HP 5 core... does the job, and I grabbed it in a pinch when
    my last system died.. we don't usually buy prebuilt systems but this
    one was there, and I was in a hurry... Works for me :)

    Sound like on a par a midrange 4 core assuming below i4770 (which was the last
    time I looked) before going AMD - a lot cheaper for mobo, cpu etc.

    I don't pay much attention these days Lol.. I know this much (found out after the fact of the purchase of course) Core i7s are better than Core i5s, which better than Core i3s... and I know Core i7 CPUs are generaslly found in high-end, expensive laptops and PCs.. and this isn't icore7 hehe.. we have an icore 7 mb in the works for whichever one of us gets motivated to finish the install of that MB - that is no easy task, believe me. It is so darn easy to bend pins on the cpu slot, it's insane. I sure don't care to try it.. maybe Ron or Matt will one day.

    Should
    have
    saved up a bit more though but it does the job as there are 212 processes and load is around zero with uploads occuring but the ibm mainframe stuff is not running yet.

    :) :)

    Keep well,

    Thanks Vince, you also stay well.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-2
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Janis Kracht on Thursday, December 03, 2015 13:22:36
    Hello Janis!

    Thursday December 03 2015 00:06, you wrote to me:

    I don't pay much attention these days Lol.. I know this much (found
    out after the fact of the purchase of course) Core i7s are better than
    Core i5s, which better than Core i3s... and I know Core i7 CPUs are generaslly found in high-end, expensive laptops and PCs.. and this
    isn't icore7 hehe.. we have an icore 7 mb in the works for whichever
    one of us gets motivated to finish the install of that MB - that is no
    easy task, believe me. It is so darn easy to bend pins on the cpu
    slot, it's insane. I sure don't care to try it.. maybe Ron or Matt
    will one day.


    The install of a cpu is really easy - just do it in good light, ensure that the
    cpu is facing the right direction (READ THE INSTALL MANUALS for both the mobo and cpu) - takes around 5 minutes to install CPU, RAM, the Fan cooler can take a bit depending of what type - in my case I did not install the standard retail
    on but used a corsair 212S as it is more efficient and has a lower power consuption and more importantly a slower and quiet fan and as my box if very quiet including the other three 12" fans it must be working :)

    Biggest time consumer is installing mobo with the bits now on (cpu, ram etc) into the case and connecting up the various leads and likewise the PSU and fans
    (30 - 45 minutes having double checked everything).

    Takes longer installing the O/S along with the updates and that is just Linux let alone dual boot windows.

    For the last upgrade I bought a new case as it holds up to 10 drives but having
    given up on a raid only hold three - SSD, WD Red 3Tb and a 1 TB for back ups that is spun down when not needed.

    Also use a WD 1Tb slim (USB 3 conenction) for remote/offsite back ups as a safe
    guard.


    Vince

    --- Mageia Linux v5/Mbse v1.0.6/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.501-b20150715
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK (2:250/1)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Benny Pedersen on Monday, February 29, 2016 20:24:18
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Benny!

    Sun Feb 28 2016, Benny Pedersen wrote to Gert Andersen:

    So it works with rar again, there some PASMAC file for fpc300 (Free
    Pacacal compiler).

    good

    ----- 70-persistent-net.rules begins -----
    # This file was automatically generated by the
    /lib/udev/write_net_rules
    # program run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.
    #
    # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.

    # PCI device 0x1186:0x1300 (8139too)
    SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
    ATTR{address}=="00:22:22:22:11:11", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
    ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"

    # PCI device 0x8086:0x1050 (e100)
    SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
    ATTR{address}=="00:22:22:22:00:00", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
    ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
    ----- 70-persistent-net.rules ends -----

    possible this helps you to get gentoo back ?

    now i have backup here, if you use my backup change the mac addresses

    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo and net.eth0
    give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd ethnet files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some problems to work with thet other net.eth* files

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: * One step from heaven is not enough * (2:230/150)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Gert Andersen on Monday, February 29, 2016 21:38:04
    Hello Gert!

    29 Feb 2016 20:24, Gert Andersen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo and net.eth0 give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd ethnet
    files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some problems to work with thet other net.eth* files

    why do you ask me about help if you dont listen ?

    stop wasting your time


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.4.3-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: openvpn on its way here (2:230/0)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Benny Pedersen on Monday, February 29, 2016 22:30:18
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Benny!

    Mon Feb 29 2016, Benny Pedersen wrote to Gert Andersen:

    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo and
    net.eth0 give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd ethnet
    files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some problems to
    work with thet other net.eth* files

    why do you ask me about help if you dont listen ?

    I listen to you but the problem was not that the net rule file not working it was that the interfaces not got startup and it got to look like it there was either the kernel there not got read the net.* as it should so it not got load and start net.lo net.eth0 and net.eth1
    After several tries with the sysrescuecd cdrom startup was it not the netcards or the others, by sys rescue find and startup the netcard but with the new names and when I tried to use and try out using the harddisk boot read sda3 configs sda1 as the cdrom sys rescue was it on the harddisk sda3 net files there seem to have errors in it for the network by right reading the net.* files.
    When I then testing the net.* files and move the net.lo to another tmp path and
    reboot was it like there seem to something got begin to work and by just copy net.eth0 to a net.lo file got the netcards to startup but some is still missing
    by boot up as there is nothing show on the monitor of the ip adresses.


    stop wasting your time




    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: * One step from heaven is not enough * (2:230/150)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Gert Andersen on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:42:42
    Hello Gert!

    29 Feb 2016 22:30, Gert Andersen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo
    and net.eth0 give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd
    ethnet files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some
    problems to work with thet other net.eth* files

    why do you ask me about help if you dont listen ?

    I listen to you but the problem was not that the net rule file not working it was that the interfaces not got startup and it got to look like it there was either the kernel there not got read the net.* as it should so it not got load and start net.lo net.eth0 and net.eth1

    you know what ?, your problem is to listen to when other say whats the problem(s) is, its not a single problem you have its more then one, i started with telling what to do first, and then you can tell me why you edit net.lo file, dont ever do that !

    After several tries with the sysrescuecd cdrom startup was it not the netcards or the others, by sys rescue find and startup the netcard but with the new names and when I tried to use and try out using the
    harddisk boot read sda3 configs sda1 as the cdrom sys rescue was it on the harddisk sda3 net files there seem to have errors in it for the network by right reading the net.* files.

    there is NOTHING to recover so that why it does not work to use systemresque cd


    When I then testing the net.* files and move the net.lo to another tmp path and reboot was it like there seem to something got begin to work
    and by just copy net.eth0 to a net.lo file got the netcards to startup but some is still missing by boot up as there is nothing show on the monitor of the ip adresses.

    net.eth0 is a symlink to net.lo, you must still NOT edit the file

    stop wasting your time

    maybe i should listen to my own advise ?


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.4.3-gentoo (i686))
    * Origin: openvpn on its way here (2:230/0)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Benny Pedersen on Wednesday, March 02, 2016 10:16:20
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Benny!

    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo
    and net.eth0 give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd
    ethnet files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some
    problems to work with thet other net.eth* files

    why do you ask me about help if you dont listen ?

    I listen but not the problem in first time was the net.lo file there gave the problem by not been read as it should.

    I listen to you but the problem was not that the net rule file not
    working it was that the interfaces not got startup and it got to look
    like it there was either the kernel there not got read the net.* as it
    should so it not got load and start net.lo net.eth0 and net.eth1

    you know what ?, your problem is to listen to when other say whats the
    problem(s) is, its not a single problem you have its more then one, i
    started with telling what to do first, and then you can tell me why you
    edit net.lo file, dont ever do that !

    After several tries with the sysrescuecd cdrom startup was it not the
    netcards or the others, by sys rescue find and startup the netcard but
    with the new names and when I tried to use and try out using the
    harddisk boot read sda3 configs sda1 as the cdrom sys rescue was it on
    the harddisk sda3 net files there seem to have errors in it for the
    network by right reading the net.* files.

    there is NOTHING to recover so that why it does not work to use
    systemresque cd

    ok

    When I then testing the net.* files and move the net.lo to another tmp
    path and reboot was it like there seem to something got begin to work
    and by just copy net.eth0 to a net.lo file got the netcards to startup
    but some is still missing by boot up as there is nothing show on the
    monitor of the ip adresses.

    net.eth0 is a symlink to net.lo, you must still NOT edit the file

    I haven't edit any thing with, I just move it to another path directory and make it to have another name as net.nlo


    maybe i should listen to my own advise ?

    It could be yes you maybe should.

    I have on fido2 make it to have get a new working @net.lo file by the there now
    make fido2 to get network connection is named !net.lo
    So it just is how to do this.

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Benny Pedersen on Thursday, March 03, 2016 19:16:02
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Benny!

    Tue Mar 01 2016, Benny Pedersen wrote to Gert Andersen:

    Well then is my fido2 got in the first error again where kernel or gentoo not is reading the net.lo file in /etc/init.d/ as it shall and all of its networking is dead.
    I took the net.log file on fido1 and copy it as root to another path directory and here run zip netlo.zip and put this file on fido1 filbox dire for fido2 as /filebox/2:230.152/ and with fido2 mbse polled fido1 2:230/150 and got it over on fido2 pc and move netlolo.xip out to /home/ and then delete the bad and wrong net.lo file then got the net.lo file in netlo.zip copied out and copies in to /etc/init.d/ then reboot the pc and then was the net.lo file not right read as before by the first problem end up.
    There may be some with the kernel or by gentoo reading init files for the network.
    I think there is a last ting I maybe can do there is to find the livecd der got
    intalled fido2 gentoo and use this for checking fido files bty go the way to I has chroot from cd to it is harddisk.


    It is not the rule file for it by it is in /etc/init.d/ the net.lo
    and net.eth0 give problems by gentoo fido2 not read the networkd
    ethnet files as it shall. By more that the net.lo file have some
    problems to work with thet other net.eth* files

    why do you ask me about help if you dont listen ?

    I listen to you but the problem was not that the net rule file not
    working it was that the interfaces not got startup and it got to look
    like it there was either the kernel there not got read the net.* as it
    should so it not got load and start net.lo net.eth0 and net.eth1

    you know what ?, your problem is to listen to when other say whats the
    problem(s) is, its not a single problem you have its more then one, i
    started with telling what to do first, and then you can tell me why you
    edit net.lo file, dont ever do that !

    After several tries with the sysrescuecd cdrom startup was it not the
    netcards or the others, by sys rescue find and startup the netcard but
    with the new names and when I tried to use and try out using the
    harddisk boot read sda3 configs sda1 as the cdrom sys rescue was it on
    the harddisk sda3 net files there seem to have errors in it for the
    network by right reading the net.* files.

    there is NOTHING to recover so that why it does not work to use
    systemresque cd

    When I then testing the net.* files and move the net.lo to another tmp
    path and reboot was it like there seem to something got begin to work
    and by just copy net.eth0 to a net.lo file got the netcards to startup
    but some is still missing by boot up as there is nothing show on the
    monitor of the ip adresses.

    net.eth0 is a symlink to net.lo, you must still NOT edit the file

    stop wasting your time

    maybe i should listen to my own advise ?


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    -+- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/4.4.3-gentoo (i686))
    + Origin: openvpn on its way here (2:230/0)


    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
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