Hello all!

I thought I'd take this opportunity to formally introduce the electronic publishing file distribution network to the fidonet community. THough an article about it authored by yours truly was published in fidonews many may not
have seen it.

so far the only traffic in this file echo has been that which I generated myself. Obviously, we're looking for contributions from the sysops and users out there in fidoland. You can
see epsubmit.zip from the administrative area, ep-adm for
complete guidelines on file submissions.

AS you peruse the submission guidelines you'll note that I will not release pdf
files into any of the ep-fdn echoes. there is no way that I can guarantee the legality of hatching such files, therefore I won't take pdf files for distribution under any circumstances. Another willing soul out there might wish to start an fdn or two for materials in pdf format. However, ep-fdn cannot accept pdf files for distribution. I have no way of reading them even were I to acquire acrobat reader for linux due to some technical barriers related to blindness and inherent in the pdf format itself.

AS we must not violate international copyright rules and the various laws governing intellectual property throughout the world we ask that you read and comply with the submission guidelines contained in epsubmit.zip. IF there is a
problem complying with them but you feel that a book or periodical would be of interest to the fido community, and it can be legally distributed in this manner
contact me and we'll see what can be worked out.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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Hello ep-fdn.

06 Dec 07 05:47, you wrote to all:


Well firstly by excluding pdf, you are hampering your efforts togain content, as most people release stuf in PDF format, due to their perception, that this is the "defacto" format for electronic publishing, i.e. you are shooting yourself in the foot so to say ... , or both feet ...

Secondly Linux has a very good version of Acrobat Reader which is free on all platforms, currently using Ubuntu ....

Am going to try and get copies of the files for this area mentioned below, but I have the Gutenburg project on DVD, but the files are named crypticly, and designed to be acsessed via a web-site, so a serious search and rename operation would be required.

I have a number of novels of which there are "free" versions, but they are mixed in with pay versions, I index and store according to subject/authour and not the lisence used for distribution, and I am not going to check 10 gig's worth of files for their suitability for distrabution, and most of these are in PDF format any how, which gives me less reason to bother ...

About the only thing that as I see it is distributable via you setup is Linux/FreeBSD documentation, and material which is now beginning to be released under one or other form of the creative commons lisence - severely limiting any content you might get ...

Just my comments ...

I thought I'd take this opportunity to formally introduce the
electronic publishing file distribution network to the fidonet
community. THough an article about it authored by yours truly was published in fidonews many may not have seen it.

so far the only traffic in this file echo has been that which I
generated myself. Obviously, we're looking for contributions from the sysops and users out there in fidoland. You can see epsubmit.zip
from the administrative area, ep-adm for complete guidelines on file submissions.

AS you peruse the submission guidelines you'll note that I will not release pdf files into any of the ep-fdn echoes. there is no way that
I can guarantee the legality of hatching such files, therefore I won't take pdf files for distribution under any circumstances. Another
willing soul out there might wish to start an fdn or two for materials
in pdf format. However, ep-fdn cannot accept pdf files for
distribution. I have no way of reading them even were I to acquire acrobat reader for linux due to some technical barriers related to blindness and inherent in the pdf format itself.

AS we must not violate international copyright rules and the various
laws governing intellectual property throughout the world we ask that
you read and comply with the submission guidelines contained in epsubmit.zip. IF there is a problem complying with them but you feel
that a book or periodical would be of interest to the fido community,
and it can be legally distributed in this manner contact me and we'll
see what can be worked out.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Russell

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HI RUssell,

Russell Tiedt wrote in a message to ep-fdn coordinator:

Well firstly by excluding pdf, you are hampering your efforts togain content, as most people release stuf in PDF format, due to their perception, that this is the "defacto" format for electronic
publishing, i.e. you are shooting yourself in the foot so to say
... , or both feet ...

Maybe so, but for years this was not the "de facto" standard" but I can tell you that it does me no good to install acrobat reader for any platform. A file that is in graphical format isn't going to do a darned thing for my screenreader. THese files have to be printed out, then run through a scanner and optical character recognition run over the resulting files the scanner produces before they can be read by folks who must use screen access technology.

Anybody who wants to set up an fdn for pdf publishing is sure welcome to do so.
I just have no way of vetting that file type for legality and other checks.

some of the gutenberg stuff was released in an older version of this network, ep-ascii which was on the backbone some years ago. I've searched out a few sources, so let me know what you find in the gutenberg titles I'll compare it against my archives here and see what's already been distributed in ep-ascii over the years. Many older system will already have theirs available.


Thanks,

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Hello Richard.

07 Dec 07 15:29, you wrote to me:

Maybe so, but for years this was not the "de facto" standard" but I
can tell you that it does me no good to install acrobat reader for any platform. A file that is in graphical format isn't going to do a
darned thing for my screenreader. THese files have to be printed out,
then run through a scanner and optical character recognition run over
the resulting files the scanner produces before they can be read by
folks who must use screen access technology.

As you say, if you need to vet it personally, then there is not much to be done about it, I have just downloaded 2 files that would fit your distribution filebone, except they are in PDF format, subject matter being UHF anttena design, they have been released under the Creative Commons Lisence, like many others I have, your requirements greatly reduce the "usefullness of your "effort", which I regard as a pity, but to a point I understand your situation.

Anybody who wants to set up an fdn for pdf publishing is sure welcome
to do so. I just have no way of vetting that file type for legality
and other checks.

That will not be me, I simply have too many other things that keep me busier than I need be ...

some of the gutenberg stuff was released in an older version of this network, ep-ascii which was on the backbone some years ago. I've
searched out a few sources, so let me know what you find in the
gutenberg titles I'll compare it against my archives here and see
what's already been distributed in ep-ascii over the years. Many
older system will already have theirs available.

Will look at it sometime, as I have a need for some stuff I saw there, when time permits ...

Russell

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, ZA (5:7105/1)

Russell Tiedt wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

Hello RUssell,

Hello Richard.

As you say, if you need to vet it personally, then there is not much
to be done about it, I have just downloaded 2 files that would fit
your distribution filebone, except they are in PDF format, subject
matter being UHF anttena design, they have been released under the Creative Commons Lisence, like many others I have, your
requirements greatly reduce the "usefullness of your "effort",
which I regard as a pity, but to a point I understand your
situation.

YOu might check with the coordinator of the ham-fdn, and my uplink. I'm sure that fdn would welcome then, and the subject matter is relevant. THe area hamfiles is the uplink, and the file might fit in either hammisc or hamant.

see netmail to you sent via routed cc: to Janis. SInce you've expressed an interest I thought I'd take this conversation to netmail, but you're welcome to
steer it back to this echo again after you read my netmail if you think it would interest other echo participants.


Regards,
Richard
... Braille: support true literacy for the blind.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Would you resend me that article and I will place it in the FidoGazette

Ep-Fdn Coordinator wrote:

Hello all!

I thought I'd take this opportunity to formally introduce the electronic publishing file distribution network to the fidonet community. THough an article about it authored by yours truly was published in fidonews many may

not

have seen it.

so far the only traffic in this file echo has been that which I generated myself. Obviously, we're looking for contributions from the sysops and

users

out there in fidoland. You can
see epsubmit.zip from the administrative area, ep-adm for
complete guidelines on file submissions.

AS you peruse the submission guidelines you'll note that I will not release

pdf

files into any of the ep-fdn echoes. there is no way that I can guarantee

the

legality of hatching such files, therefore I won't take pdf files for distribution under any circumstances. Another willing soul out there might wish to start an fdn or two for materials in pdf format. However, ep-fdn cannot accept pdf files for distribution. I have no way of reading them even were I to acquire acrobat reader for linux due to some technical barriers related to blindness and inherent in the pdf format itself.

AS we must not violate international copyright rules and the various laws governing intellectual property throughout the world we ask that you read and comply with the submission guidelines contained in epsubmit.zip. IF there is

a

problem complying with them but you feel that a book or periodical would be

of

interest to the fido community, and it can be legally distributed in this manner
contact me and we'll see what can be worked out.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

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Hi Allen,

Allen Prunty wrote in a message to Ep-Fdn Coordinator:

Would you resend me that article and I will place it in the
FidoGazette

I"ll have a look for it. I may have to go back and grab that fidonews issue again if I can't find it locally.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

HI Allen,

Allen Prunty wrote in a message to Ep-Fdn Coordinator:

Would you resend me that article and I will place it in the
FidoGazette

DId some slight modifications to it so it appears a bit different than the fidonews article. Also clarified a couple of points regarding the FDN and legal
responsibilities.

Watch your routed. Tried to hit your pots the other day but didn't really pay attention to the nodelist entry to see if you're limited hours pots avail or anything. Hence sent it routed. aDvise if you don't get it in a couple of days
and I'll try sending direct to your pots.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Watch your routed. Tried to hit your pots the other day but didn't really

pay

attention to the nodelist entry to see if you're limited hours pots avail or anything. Hence sent it routed. aDvise if you don't get it in a couple of

days

and I'll try sending direct to your pots.

POTS has gone to pot! I've had a lot of trouble getting my modem to
work under windows xp.

Allen
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