Hi Folks,

1:123/500 was disconnected somehow from some file echos.. mostly in the PDN file echos. That's where I noticed the problem since files recently
hatched in those areas weren't going out to Ross. I still have to check the other file areas, but I expect they're ok given the announcements in fdn_announce.

So.. anyway, today I'm sending 1:125/500 the files that were missed.. :)

Take care,
Janis

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1:123/500 was disconnected somehow from some file echos..

seems that they were disconnected from a lot more... i found that many of the message echos i carry were no longer flowing so i sent in a blanket reconnect message to their areafix and had a bunch come back saying the area was not available but it is still listed in the backbone.na file release on the 23rd...

i've not written them a message yet to ask what happened but obviously a pretty
ugly something did... i guess maybe i should also send in a blanket allfix request to ensure that all the file areas i carry are still turned on, too :/

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1:123/500 was disconnected somehow from some file echos..

seems that they were disconnected from a lot more... i found that
many of the message echos i carry were no longer flowing so i sent
in a blanket reconnect message to their areafix and had a bunch
come back saying the area was not available but it is still listed
in the backbone.na file release on the 23rd...

following up further... checking their dupes and bad messages stats, it seems to have happened back around the 18th of April... that's when the first bad message from my system showed up in their stats... i'm sending areafix and allfix (re)link posts for all the areas i have configured from them... will see
what flushes out over the next few days...

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Hi Mark,

1:123/500 was disconnected somehow from some file echos..

seems that they were disconnected from a lot more... i found that
many of the message echos i carry were no longer flowing so i sent
in a blanket reconnect message to their areafix and had a bunch
come back saying the area was not available but it is still listed
in the backbone.na file release on the 23rd...

following up further... checking their dupes and bad messages stats, it seems to have happened back around the 18th of April... that's when the first bad message from my system showed up in their stats... i'm sending areafix and
allfix (re)link posts for all the areas i have configured from them... will se
what flushes out over the next few days...

Hmm.. I talked to another fellow who also had to relink his system there. Sounds like the murphy guy was having some fun. I hope you are all re-connected now.

We had some fun yesterday - my coffee-pot must have shorted out and tripped the
gfci switch in the kitchen outlet where the coffee-pot was plugged in... which is when we found out what else was on that particular circuit.. like _half_ the
outlets in the computer-room which is off the kitchen. My system was (note past tense) plugged into one of those affected. So poof.. there went the whole
circuit 'til we found the outlet that had the problem.. nice safety feature, but a dog to find sometimes Lol

That was in the early morning yesterday... after finally getting things back up, I swear TWCable must have cut internet/phone/tv (love those bundles Lol) so
many times I lost count yesterday.. dead dead dead at least 6 times... wonderful day. I checked all my msg. bases since that nasty shutdown early in the morning could have zotched some stuff and it seems all is ok... perhaps something weird like that struck over there as well..

Take care,
Janis

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Hello Janis!

02 May 13 05:16, you wrote to Mark Lewis:

We had some fun yesterday - my coffee-pot must have shorted out and
tripped the gfci switch in the kitchen outlet where the coffee-pot was plugged in... which is when we found out what else was on that
particular circuit.. like _half_ the outlets in the computer-room
which is off the kitchen. My system was (note past tense) plugged
into one of those affected. So poof.. there went the whole circuit
'til we found the outlet that had the problem.. nice safety feature,
but a dog to find sometimes Lol

That's one problem I do not get as I use a 2200 & 1400 Kva UPS boxes looking after all mainline systems including the phone pabx.

We do suffer from power cuts being in the sticks (smallish village).

Vince

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following up further... checking their dupes and bad messages stats,
it seems to have happened back around the 18th of April... that's
when the first bad message from my system showed up in their stats...
i'm sending areafix and allfix (re)link posts for all the areas i
have configured from them... will see what flushes out over the next
few days...

Hmm.. I talked to another fellow who also had to relink his system
there. Sounds like the murphy guy was having some fun. I hope you
are all re-connected now.

yeah, not quite... some areas are still coming back as not available... i'm guessing this means that they are not on the 'bone but i don't know how he handles that aspect to determine when to forward the request "upstream" to you and bobS for reconnection...

We had some fun yesterday - my coffee-pot must have shorted out and tripped the gfci switch in the kitchen outlet where the coffee-pot
was plugged in... which is when we found out what else was on that particular circuit.. like _half_ the outlets in the computer-room
which is off the kitchen. My system was (note past tense) plugged
into one of those affected. So poof.. there went the whole circuit
'til we found the outlet that had the problem.. nice safety
feature, but a dog to find sometimes Lol

yep! sounds like someone took the easy way out and passed the wire "thru" that outlet... it can be remedied rather easily if you can get the outlet out and move the wires from one side to the other to the outlet is in parallel instead of in series...

one of the things we've done here is to install our own outlets for the computers... they are all noticibly different from the normal ones and they have orange sheathing... when the power goes out, the orange cables are the ones that we connect to the feed from the generator so that we can power the important stuff along with the fridges, freezers, heat, TVs and a few lights ;)

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Hi Vince!

We had some fun yesterday - my coffee-pot must have shorted out and
tripped the gfci switch in the kitchen outlet where the coffee-pot was
plugged in... which is when we found out what else was on that
particular circuit.. like _half_ the outlets in the computer-room
which is off the kitchen. My system was (note past tense) plugged
into one of those affected. So poof.. there went the whole circuit
'til we found the outlet that had the problem.. nice safety feature,
but a dog to find sometimes Lol

That's one problem I do not get as I use a 2200 & 1400 Kva UPS boxes looking after all mainline systems including the phone pabx.

We had them in Windsor before we moved.. one of them "died", the other is on the router... I just have to get another one for my system..

We do suffer from power cuts being in the sticks (smallish village).

Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of those outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had the 30min. or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that tripped :)

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Mark!

have configured from them... will see what flushes out over the next
few days...

Hmm.. I talked to another fellow who also had to relink his system
there. Sounds like the murphy guy was having some fun. I hope you
are all re-connected now.

yeah, not quite... some areas are still coming back as not available... i'm guessing this means that they are not on the 'bone but i don't know how he
handles that aspect to determine when to forward the request "upstream" to you
and bobS for reconnection...

Understand. I wouldn't doubt there are some that go back and forth between Bob
and I that don't go to Ross since he's only dealing with what's on backbone.na.
(I think). Not real busy places, but once in a while there might be some traffic. For the reports I generate for Jon Justvig's Fidonews, I just use backbone.na to look for traffic in those areas.

particular circuit.. like _half_ the outlets in the computer-room
which is off the kitchen. My system was (note past tense) plugged
into one of those affected. So poof.. there went the whole circuit
'til we found the outlet that had the problem.. nice safety
feature, but a dog to find sometimes Lol

yep! sounds like someone took the easy way out and passed the wire "thru" that
outlet... it can be remedied rather easily if you can get the outlet out and
move the wires from one side to the other to the outlet is in parallel instead
of in series...

Yeah, I'm sure Ron will do something like that.

one of the things we've done here is to install our own outlets for the computers... they are all noticibly different from the normal ones and they have orange sheathing... when the power goes out, the orange cables are the ones that we connect to the feed from the generator so that we can power the
important stuff along with the fridges, freezers, heat, TVs and a few lights ;

Nice :) The fellow who owned this house before us had some extensive wiring done in the computer room which is why I was suprised that darn outlet caught me in the next room hehe.. There's even a separate breaker box in this computer room apart from the one in the basement. The house was originally built in the early 1800's then stripped down and rebuilt sometime maybe 20 years ago..There is a generator here that runs on gas, that we can turn on if we lose power.. but from I remember Ron telling me, it's really only good for lights, and the fridge. He said we'd have to get a bigger one to use for the systems. I'm sure the guy that lived here didn't have as many systems as we jam in here either Lol.

Take care,
Janis

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Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of
those outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had
the 30min. or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that tripped :)

or run an extension cord for the UPS while it is on battery and then plug it into the cord giving more time to find the problem with the original outlet ;)

i've actually moved running computers from one location to another without shutting them down... the only concern was that the battery in the UPS lasted for the trip or that there was a power supply at some midpoint of the trip... in this case i'm thinking of, it was only across town so maybe 15 minutes... one has to definitely be careful performing a feat like this :)

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from the one in the basement. The house was originally built in
the early 1800's then stripped down and rebuilt sometime maybe 20
years ago..There is a generator here that runs on gas, that we can
turn on if we lose power.. but from I remember Ron telling me,
it's really only good for lights, and the fridge. He said we'd
have to get a bigger one to use for the systems. I'm sure the guy
that lived here didn't have as many systems as we jam in here
either Lol.

yeah, i forget what size our generator is but it serves the purpose... we only connect six or eight circuts to it when we have to use it... two of those are the computers a both ends of the location... others are specific outlets which we then connect heavy duty cords to with outlet expanders on them so we can get
more than two devices operational...

eg: the aquariums and a couple of lights in the living room...
telephone base station and a light in the kitchen...
the fridge and freezer in the location...
the fridge and freezer on the back deck...
the fridge and freezer under the location...

the computer areas don't need any lights because of the monitors and we're touch typists ;) that's seven 110 circuts plus the one 220 for the AC which uses half for the heater fans... i think the generator is a 5000 watt unit... we get 8 to 12 hours on a tank of gas depending on the load... we can easily extend that by connecting a larger tank to its fuel line hose... the existing tank sits on top of the unit and acts as a cover for the motor and generator...
it is a gravity fed fuel system so everything is out in the open and easily available...

dang, sorry for the ramble... it must be past my bed time :?

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Hello Janis!

02 May 13 19:30, you wrote to me:

Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of those outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had the 30min.
or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that tripped :)

In my case the 2200 gives me almost 2 hours more than enough for most power cuts and allows 90 mins before shutting the system down.

Hopefully I have noticed by then but we do get cuts after I go to bed after 02:00 but there is a gap of 7+ hours before I get up so ...

Heck, it is a service for which I do not get paid so if it is shutdown for 6+ hours, its a smaller electicity bill :)

Vince

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Re: Fixed links.. :)
By: Vince Coen to Janis Kracht on Mon May 06 2013 03:35 pm

Hello Janis!

02 May 13 19:30, you wrote to me:

Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of those outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had the 30min.
or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that tripped :)

In my case the 2200 gives me almost 2 hours more than enough for most power cuts and allows 90 mins before shutting the system down.

I have a Cyberpower 685AVR, and I believe it gives around 30-45 minutes
after the power goes out. It's at least enough time to safely shut down the systems and reboot then when the power is back on.

Granted, most of the time when the power goes out, so does the internet. So I'm really not gaining anything except the fact that the computers didn't
just shut off with no warning.

Hopefully I have noticed by then but we do get cuts after I go to bed after 02:00 but there is a gap of 7+ hours before I get up so ...

Agreed. When that happens it happens. You can't do anything about it.
Though noone is going to come bang on your door when it does, either..

Heck, it is a service for which I do not get paid so if it is shutdown for 6+ hours, its a smaller electicity bill :)

Exactly. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hi Mark,

Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of
those outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had
the 30min. or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that
tripped :)

or run an extension cord for the UPS while it is on battery and then plug it
into the cord giving more time to find the problem with the original outlet ;)

I think I'll just keep a bunch of extension cords plugged in all over the house... "oops lost this one, lemme try over here" haha.. just kidding. You know you know all the ins and outs of a house after you've lived there for a while, this newbie (well new since last July at least) seemed so, I dunno solid.. live and learn.

i've actually moved running computers from one location to another without shutting them down... the only concern was that the battery in the UPS lasted for the trip or that there was a power supply at some midpoint of the trip...

haha.. wow.. never tried that one :)

in this case i'm thinking of, it was only across town so maybe 15 minutes... one has to definitely be careful performing a feat like this :)

I would think so.. :) This move to Slaterville Springs wasn't soooo far.. Maybe an hour and a half- 2 hours, something like that. Long long winding tiny
road with slow farm vehicles and few distances of passing lanes though <grin>

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Mark,

turn on if we lose power.. but from I remember Ron telling me,
it's really only good for lights, and the fridge. He said we'd
have to get a bigger one to use for the systems. I'm sure the guy
that lived here didn't have as many systems as we jam in here
either Lol.

yeah, i forget what size our generator is but it serves the purpose... we only
connect six or eight circuts to it when we have to use it... two of those are
the computers a both ends of the location... others are specific outlets which >we then connect heavy duty cords to with outlet expanders on them so we can ge
more than two devices operational...

That sounds good.. I would think that systems wouldn't use that much power but electronics in that sense isn't my thing. If it were me, I'd say screw the refridgerator, gimme the systems. We can always eat out. Matter of fact I might mention that to Ron.

haha.. I just did mention it to Ron and he reminded me that the outlet that my system is plugged into IS on the circuit the generator controls.. so cool.

eg: the aquariums and a couple of lights in the living room...
telephone base station and a light in the kitchen...
the fridge and freezer in the location...
the fridge and freezer on the back deck...
the fridge and freezer under the location...

Ah.. no fish here.. so that's something.. losing the freezer stuff could be a pia depending on how long the juice was out though :)

the computer areas don't need any lights because of the monitors and we're touch typists ;)

Right.. same here.

that's seven 110 circuts plus the one 220 for the AC which
uses half for the heater fans... i think the generator is a 5000 watt unit... we get 8 to 12 hours on a tank of gas depending on the load... we can easily extend that by connecting a larger tank to its fuel line hose... the existing
tank sits on top of the unit and acts as a cover for the motor and generator..
it is a gravity fed fuel system so everything is out in the open and easily available...

Hey, that's good to know.

dang, sorry for the ramble... it must be past my bed time :?

haha.. nah, you always talk about interesting things :)

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Vince,

Yeah.. In this case if I'd had a UPS box on my system in one of those
outlets affected by the zap, I guess I'd at least have had the 30min.
or whatever it gives you to find that darned socket that tripped :)

In my case the 2200 gives me almost 2 hours more than enough for most power cuts and allows 90 mins before shutting the system down.

That's nice. So far Linux has been very nice to me in terms of unintentional shut-downs and no harm done... but I know that can change without warning <grin>

Hopefully I have noticed by then but we do get cuts after I go to bed after 02:00 but there is a gap of 7+ hours before I get up so ...

Ha.. I'm lucky if I get to sleep 7 hours.. between dogs deciding it's time for me to get up and jumping on my face, and cats deciding the same :)

Heck, it is a service for which I do not get paid so if it is shutdown for 6+ hours, its a smaller electicity bill :)

:)

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Nick,

In my case the 2200 gives me almost 2 hours more than enough for most power >> cuts and allows 90 mins before shutting the system down.

I have a Cyberpower 685AVR, and I believe it gives around 30-45 minutes
after the power goes out. It's at least enough time to safely shut down the systems and reboot then when the power is back on.

And hopefully by then the electric is back.. in Windsor that was a problem.. I think because of the closeness to Cornell University that kind of thing is in the past. Much better services in that respect around here.

Granted, most of the time when the power goes out, so does the internet. So I'm really not gaining anything except the fact that the computers didn't just shut off with no warning.

Well, now that TWCable did some work last week, even their connection here is much better than it was. That's something. I was pulling my hair out for awhile with them disconnecting without warning on my Static account almost every night after midnight ... just for a moment but a pia.

Take care,
Janis

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