Has anyone tested the FMail config program with a recent Wine? I only remember that it didn't work properly, but since then many newer versions of Wine have been released. Maybe compatibility is now good enough to run it (I guess it still doesn't work, but maybe it does).

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-17 10:17:11, you wrote to All:

Has anyone tested the FMail config program with a recent Wine? I only remember that it didn't work properly, but since then many newer
versions of Wine have been released. Maybe compatibility is now good enough to run it (I guess it still doesn't work, but maybe it does).

I haven't, but maybe it's time for another test...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-17):

Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-17 10:17:11, you wrote to All:

Has anyone tested the FMail config program with a recent Wine? I
only remember that it didn't work properly, but since then many
newer versions of Wine have been released. Maybe compatibility is
now good enough to run it (I guess it still doesn't work, but maybe
it does).

I haven't, but maybe it's time for another test...

It doesn't work with Wine 7.0, which is not the newest version, but the most recent Debian 11 (bullseye / stable) offers.

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-21 20:20:04, you wrote to me:

On 2023-02-17 10:17:11, you wrote to All:

Has anyone tested the FMail config program with a recent Wine? I
only remember that it didn't work properly, but since then many
newer versions of Wine have been released. Maybe compatibility is
now good enough to run it (I guess it still doesn't work, but maybe
it does).

I haven't, but maybe it's time for another test...

It doesn't work with Wine 7.0, which is not the newest version, but the most recent Debian 11 (bullseye / stable) offers.

Ok, good to know...

There is an experimental package Wine 8.2 available for my opensuse 15.4 machine. I might try that later...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-21):

Has anyone tested the FMail config program with a recent Wine?

It doesn't work with Wine 7.0, which is not the newest version, but
the most recent Debian 11 (bullseye / stable) offers.

Ok, good to know...

There is an experimental package Wine 8.2 available for my opensuse 15.4 machine. I might try that later...

I first tried it with

$ wine FConfigW32.exe

which didn't work at all. But

$ wineconsole

Z:\FMail> fconfigw32

does kind of work. Only problem is with Node and Area Manager: F-keys and Del/Ins don't do anything. Does FConfig support navigation with the arrow keys?

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-22 16:18:22, you wrote to me:

I first tried it with

$ wine FConfigW32.exe

which didn't work at all. But

$ wineconsole

Z:\FMail>> fconfigw32

does kind of work. Only problem is with Node and Area Manager: F-keys and Del/Ins don't do anything. Does FConfig support navigation with the arrow keys?

Yes. left and right arrow keys should work in the Node and Area manager. Pressing enter is the same as 'F1 enter'. And typing letters does a search on the typed letters for an Area name in the Area Manager.

I noticed the same behaviour when I run FConfigW32.exe in https://reactos.org/ But that is not so strange because it is based on the same code as wine.

It seems to have to do with how the getch() function is implemented in the MingW compiler. The version in the old Borland Compiler seems to work in reactos, or so some tests I did seems to indicate.

A few years back I made a little test program that showed this when compiled with different compilers:
http://fmail.vlzn.nl/files/getchtest.zip

I added 2 versions compiled with the latest x64 version of mingw that came with the latest code::blocks 20.03. Probably not usefull for testing with wine. But on mijn Windows 10 x64 they all produce the same results for the function keys...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-23):

It seems to have to do with how the getch() function is implemented in the MingW compiler. The version in the old Borland Compiler seems to work in reactos, or so some tests I did seems to indicate.

A few years back I made a little test program that showed this when compiled with different compilers: http://fmail.vlzn.nl/files/getchtest.zip

I've compiled it with conio.h from https://github.com/casualsnek/linuxconio on Linux and this is what I get when pressing

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INS
DEL

$ ./getchtest-linuxconio
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
65 - 00000041 - 'A'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
66 - 00000042 - 'B'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
81 - 00000051 - 'Q'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
50 - 00000032 - '2'
126 - 0000007E - '~'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
51 - 00000033 - '3'
126 - 0000007E - '~'

and with wine:

$ wine getchtest-borland.exe
0 - 00000000 - ''
72 - 00000048 - 'H'
0 - 00000000 - ''
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
0 - 00000000 - ''
59 - 0000003B - ';'
0 - 00000000 - ''
60 - 0000003C - '<'
0 - 00000000 - ''
82 - 00000052 - 'R'
0 - 00000000 - ''
83 - 00000053 - 'S'

$ wine getchtest-mingw32.exe
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
72 - 00000048 - 'H'
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
[F1 nothing]
[F2 nothing]
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
82 - 00000052 - 'R'
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
83 - 00000053 - 'S'

I don't have 64-bit wine.

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 11:33:38, you wrote to me:

I've compiled it with conio.h from https://github.com/casualsnek/linuxconio
on Linux and this is what I get when pressing

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INS
DEL

$ ./getchtest-linuxconio
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
65 - 00000041 - 'A'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
66 - 00000042 - 'B'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
81 - 00000051 - 'Q'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
50 - 00000032 - '2'
126 - 0000007E - '~'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
51 - 00000033 - '3'
126 - 0000007E - '~'

That's a strange result, but something for later, when I'm converting fconfig to linux. ;-)

and with wine:

$ wine getchtest-borland.exe
0 - 00000000 - ''
72 - 00000048 - 'H'
0 - 00000000 - ''
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
0 - 00000000 - ''
59 - 0000003B - ';'
0 - 00000000 - ''
60 - 0000003C - '<'
0 - 00000000 - ''
82 - 00000052 - 'R'
0 - 00000000 - ''
83 - 00000053 - 'S'

Same on Windows 10 x64

$ wine getchtest-mingw32.exe
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
72 - 00000048 - 'H'
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
[F1 nothing]
[F2 nothing]
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
82 - 00000052 - 'R'
224 - 000000E0 - 'à'
83 - 00000053 - 'S'

The "nothing" is the problem...

On Windows 10 x64, all mingw versions produce:

224 - 000000E0 - 'α'
72 - 00000048 - 'H'
224 - 000000E0 - 'α'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
0 - 00000000 - ' '
59 - 0000003B - ';'
0 - 00000000 - ' '
60 - 0000003C - '<'
224 - 000000E0 - 'α'
82 - 00000052 - 'R'
224 - 000000E0 - 'α'
83 - 00000053 - 'S'

(The 224 instead of 0 is no problem and already dealt with in the fconfig source...)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-23):

Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 11:33:38, you wrote to me:

I've compiled it with conio.h from
https://github.com/casualsnek/linuxconio
on Linux and this is what I get when pressing

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INS
DEL

$ ./getchtest-linuxconio
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
65 - 00000041 - 'A'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
66 - 00000042 - 'B'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
81 - 00000051 - 'Q'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
50 - 00000032 - '2'
126 - 0000007E - '~'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
51 - 00000033 - '3'
126 - 0000007E - '~'

That's a strange result, but something for later, when I'm converting fconfig to linux. ;-)

ANSI escape codes? To make it more fun, there are different codes depending on the terminal:

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm-function-keys.html

And Linux text console (no GUI) uses yet another escape sequence for the F-keys.

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 13:13:59, you wrote to me:

I've compiled it with conio.h from
https://github.com/casualsnek/linuxconio
on Linux and this is what I get when pressing

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INS
DEL

$ ./getchtest-linuxconio
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
65 - 00000041 - 'A'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
66 - 00000042 - 'B'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
80 - 00000050 - 'P'
27 - 0000001B - '
79 - 0000004F - 'O'
81 - 00000051 - 'Q'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
50 - 00000032 - '2'
126 - 0000007E - '~'
27 - 0000001B - '
91 - 0000005B - '['
51 - 00000033 - '3'
126 - 0000007E - '~'

That's a strange result, but something for later, when I'm converting
fconfig to linux. ;-)

ANSI escape codes?

I could get the same above sequences with a windows program with some wincon.h functions and this mode:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/console/console-virtual-terminal-sequences

But this works in Windows 10, not in Windows XP... :-(


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-23):

ANSI escape codes?

I could get the same above sequences with a windows program with some wincon.h functions and this mode:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/console/console-virtual-terminal-sequences

But this works in Windows 10, not in Windows XP... :-(

Are there any XP users of FMail?

Maybe port to ncurses or pdcurses?

https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/wiki2/NCurses/
https://pdcurses.org/

Might be the sledgehammer for a nut ;)

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 15:38:08, you wrote to me:

But this works in Windows 10, not in Windows XP... :-(

Are there any XP users of FMail?

Me! ;-)

Maybe port to ncurses or pdcurses?

https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/wiki2/NCurses/
https://pdcurses.org/

Might be the sledgehammer for a nut ;)

That will be an option for the future, because linux fconfig will probably use ncurses.

I found another way that gives consistent codes on XP and W10x64:

http://www.vlzn.nl/fmail/files/getchtest_win2.zip

Can you test it in wine?

For:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-23):

I found another way that gives consistent codes on XP and W10x64:

http://www.vlzn.nl/fmail/files/getchtest_win2.zip

Can you test it in wine?

For:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

$ wine getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe
0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

(line breaks after 'a' and 'b' only)

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* Origin: War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. (2:280/464.47)

Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 15:56:52, you wrote to me:

I found another way that gives consistent codes on XP and W10x64:

http://www.vlzn.nl/fmail/files/getchtest_win2.zip

Can you test it in wine?

For:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

$ wine getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe
0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0
- 00 - ' 97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

(line breaks after 'a' and 'b' only)

Ok strange how the wine console reponds differently when a 0x00 character is printed. But I changed that to printing a space char now, so please try again (it's in the same .zip)...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 16:07:09, I wrote to you:

I found another way that gives consistent codes on XP and W10x64:

http://www.vlzn.nl/fmail/files/getchtest_win2.zip

Can you test it in wine?

For:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

$ wine getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe
0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - '
0 - 00 - ' 97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

(line breaks after 'a' and 'b' only)

Ok strange how the wine console reponds differently when a 0x00 character is printed. But I changed that to printing a space char now, so please try
again (it's in the same .zip)...

In reactos I get the same output as on my windows machines, so this looks promissing!


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-23):

$ wine getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe
0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00 - ' 0 - 00
- ' 0 - 00 - ' 97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

(line breaks after 'a' and 'b' only)

Ok strange how the wine console reponds differently when a 0x00
character is printed. But I changed that to printing a space char
now, so please try again (it's in the same .zip)...

In reactos I get the same output as on my windows machines, so this looks promissing!

Looks good.

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 17:44:48, you wrote to me:

In reactos I get the same output as on my windows machines, so this
looks promissing!

Looks good.

You mean, you get this result:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

In wine now too?


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-23 17:56:07, I wrote to you:

You mean, you get this result:

UP
DOWN
F1
F2
INSERT
DELETE
a
b

I get:

0 - 00 - ' ' + 26
0 - 00 - ' ' + 28
0 - 00 - ' ' + 70
0 - 00 - ' ' + 71
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2D
0 - 00 - ' ' + 2E
97 - 61 - 'a' + 41
98 - 62 - 'b' + 42

In wine now too?

Never mind, I was able to reproduce this with wineconsole, with or without --backen=curses ! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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That will be an option for the future, because linux fconfig will probably use ncurses.

I like the sound of that. It will be nice to have another option.

Any chance FMail can or will support Jam netmail bases?

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Hi Alan,

On 2023-02-23 14:53:32, you wrote to me:

That will be an option for the future, because linux fconfig will
probably use ncurses.

I like the sound of that. It will be nice to have another option.

I'm now working on FConfigW32.exe that can run in a linux terminal using wine. Don't know yet if I will succeed, but it is looking good so far...

Any chance FMail can or will support Jam netmail bases?

It's at the bottom of my to do list, so don't hold your breath. ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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I like the sound of that. It will be nice to have another option.

I'm now working on FConfigW32.exe that can run in a linux terminal using wine. Don't know yet if I will succeed, but it is looking good so far...

I'll keep my fingers crossed. My BBS machine has no desktop or xorg at all. I don't think wine is an option there.

Any chance FMail can or will support Jam netmail bases?

It's at the bottom of my to do list, so don't hold your breath. ;-)

It's only needed when using a BBS that doesn't support *.msg. I have a friend in a situation like that.

My netmail bases have always been *.msg so I am happy enough with that and it works well with golded or any editor that can use *.msg.

Keep up the good work! :)

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Hi Alan,

On 2023-02-23 15:57:28, you wrote to me:

I like the sound of that. It will be nice to have another option.

I'm now working on FConfigW32.exe that can run in a linux terminal using
wine. Don't know yet if I will succeed, but it is looking good so far...

I'll keep my fingers crossed. My BBS machine has no desktop or xorg at all.
I don't think wine is an option there.

I could run a little test program today, in a Konsole terminal, where it was started from, using:

# wineconsole --backend=curses test.exe

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-24):

Hi Alan,

On 2023-02-23 15:57:28, you wrote to me:

I like the sound of that. It will be nice to have another option.

I'm now working on FConfigW32.exe that can run in a linux terminal
using wine. Don't know yet if I will succeed, but it is looking good
so far...

I'll keep my fingers crossed. My BBS machine has no desktop or xorg
at all. I don't think wine is an option there.

It works over SSH in any terminal. There are some errors, but they can be ignored:

$ wine getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe
0070:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0070:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
0070:err:systray:initialize_systray Could not create tray window

Only disadvantage is that the Wine package is huge with all its dependencies in comparison to the few KB from FMail. (In times of 100MB mobile apps it might not matter).

I could run a little test program today, in a Konsole terminal, where it was started from, using:

# wineconsole --backend=curses test.exe

wineconsole --backend=curses returns an error on Wine 7.0. But I think with "wine test.exe" you get the same behavior.

(And yes, I've got the exact same output with getchtest_win2-mingw32.exe)

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-24 11:13:06, you wrote to me:

I could run a little test program today, in a Konsole terminal,
where
it was started from, using:

# wineconsole --backend=curses test.exe

wineconsole --backend=curses returns an error on Wine 7.0. But I think with
"wine test.exe" you get the same behavior.

Mine is:

# wine --version
wine-1.8.6



Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-24):

On 2023-02-24 11:13:06, you wrote to me:

I could run a little test program today, in a Konsole terminal,
where
it was started from, using:

# wineconsole --backend=curses test.exe

wineconsole --backend=curses returns an error on Wine 7.0. But I
think with "wine test.exe" you get the same behavior.

Mine is:

# wine --version
wine-1.8.6

Found this:

"Modern Wine versions (>6.0) don't have the curses backend."

https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Text_mode_programs_.28CUI:_Console_User_Interface.29

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-24 12:52:42, you wrote to me:

I could run a little test program today, in a Konsole terminal,
where
it was started from, using:

# wineconsole --backend=curses test.exe

wineconsole --backend=curses returns an error on Wine 7.0. But I
think with "wine test.exe" you get the same behavior.

Mine is:

# wine --version
wine-1.8.6

Found this:

"Modern Wine versions (>6.0) don't have the curses backend."

That's a pitty.

https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Text_mode_programs_.28CUI: _Console_User_Interface.29

It says the 'wine' method that uses bare streams doesn't have: "Good support for full screen CUI applications (including but not limited to color support, mouse support...)". That doesn't sound good for running FConfig in this way...


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Wilfred wrote (2023-02-24):

Found this:

"Modern Wine versions (>6.0) don't have the curses backend."

That's a pitty.

https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Text_mode_programs_.28CUI:
_Console_User_Interface.29

It says the 'wine' method that uses bare streams doesn't have: "Good support for full screen CUI applications (including but not limited to color support, mouse support...)". That doesn't sound good for running FConfig in this way...

The text and colors looks fine with "wine FConfigW32". I'm slightly optimistic that it will work.

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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-24 14:31:38, you wrote to me:

"Modern Wine versions (>6.0) don't have the curses backend."

That's a pitty.

https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Text_mode_programs_.28CUI
: _Console_User_Interface.29

It says the 'wine' method that uses bare streams doesn't have: "Good
support for full screen CUI applications (including but not limited
to color support, mouse support...)". That doesn't sound good for
running FConfig in this way...

The text and colors looks fine with "wine FConfigW32". I'm slightly optimistic that it will work.

Ok, we'll see. I have done the coding last night to switch to the Windows Console API way of getting the keyboard input in FConfig. Which seems to work fine, but I want to do a bit more testing, in windows (xp), before trying it in wine, and making it available for public testing. ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
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Hi Oli,

On 2023-02-24 16:31:22, I wrote to you:

The text and colors looks fine with "wine FConfigW32". I'm slightly
optimistic that it will work.

Ok, we'll see. I have done the coding last night to switch to the Windows Console API way of getting the keyboard input in FConfig. Which seems to work fine, but I want to do a bit more testing, in windows (xp), before trying it in wine, and making it available for public testing. ;-)

In the real windows everything seems to work fine. The Alt-<char> key presses now work as they should, they were actually broken in the old code and behaved as if you pressed the key without the Alt key. As a result I even discovered a little easter egg. ;-) (When you press and hold Alt, and press the a, b, o, u and t keys in sequence you get an information window with the compile date of the program.) This only works in the new Beta (link below).

In wine the results are poor, to very poor:


With wine-1.8.6:

wineconsole --backend=user FConfigW32.exe
Not everything is visible but it seems to respond correctly to all keys, but since the screen is mostly not updated you don't see everything you do.

wineconsole --backend=curses FConfigW32.exe
I don't have the right font, and or terminal settings, because line drawing characters aren't showing right. For the rest the results are similar to the above.

wine FConfigW32.exe
Only the text from the copyright header is just printed to the next line in regular terminal colors. Other then that nothing is on screen, and you can't do anything except pressing Ctrl-c to put it out of it's misery.


With wine-7.0:

wineconsole --backend=user FConfigW32.exe
This looks perfectly ok when started. But not everything is redrawn as it should as a response to key presses. So nothing seems to happen, on some key presses, but that's only optical. When you go into a submenu, you get the right one.

wine FConfigW32.exe
The screen looks the same as with wineconsole 1.8.6 and --backen=curses. But there is no response to key presses, instead you see the ansi sequences printed on screen.


In conclusion, some of the above is usable in case of emergency and you know your way around, but for everyday use it isn't. But I'm keeping the new key code, it works better in windows and in wine...

If any one wants to try it:

https://fmail.vlzn.nl/files/FConfigW32-2.2.1.0-Beta.zip


Bye, Wilfred.

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