• NAT and ISPs

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Sunday, March 27, 2022 14:33:02

    Hello Tony,

    On Friday March 25 2022 20:09, you wrote to me:

    If you have any IPv4 to spare, better sell it now before the
    bubble bursts. :-)

    Got plenty, none of it's mine though. My /28 belongs to a networking group, and my /24 belongs to ARDC.

    That /24 may not last forever. ARDC has already sold a substantial part of their original /8 and with a going price of $50 for an IPv4 address they may be tempted to sell more before the bubble burst.

    It does not take a crystal ball to see that the IPv4 trade is a bubble that WILL burst in the foreseeable future.

    ... Copper wire was invented by two Ferengi fighting over a
    penny.

    Really? The Belgians say is was invented by the Dutch...

    Hmm, not sure what that's about. :P

    Do Australians make jokes about New Zealanders and vice versa? It is the same between the Dutch and the Belgians...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Andre Robitaille@1:154/70 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sunday, March 27, 2022 08:25:48
    Do Australians make jokes about New Zealanders and vice versa? It is the same between the Dutch and the Belgians...

    Does that really count though? Everybody makes fun of the Dutch.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Andre Robitaille on Sunday, March 27, 2022 16:16:22
    Hello Andre,

    On Sunday March 27 2022 08:25, you wrote to me:

    Do Australians make jokes about New Zealanders and vice versa? It is
    the same between the Dutch and the Belgians...

    Does that really count though? Everybody makes fun of the Dutch.

    Ze kunnen beter over je fiets lullen, dan over je lul fietsen.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel van der Vlist on Monday, March 28, 2022 18:05:12
    On 27/03/2022 23:33, Michiel van der Vlist : Tony Langdon wrote:

    MvdV> Do Australians make jokes about New Zealanders and vice versa?

    Most definitely.

    MvdV> It is the same between the Dutch and the Belgians...

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    Regards
    David

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Friday, April 01, 2022 19:57:00
    On 03-27-22 14:33, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    That /24 may not last forever. ARDC has already sold a substantial part of their original /8 and with a going price of $50 for an IPv4 address they may be tempted to sell more before the bubble burst.

    True, see what happens. :) Hopefully the ham developers will embrace IPv6 more. Newer software, like the M17 infrastructure and IP clients (e.g. DroidStar) do support IPv6, and my M17 reflector is IPv6 capable and had an AAAA record.

    It does not take a crystal ball to see that the IPv4 trade is a bubble that WILL burst in the foreseeable future.

    Yes, there will be a point where everything goes IPv6 and the remains of IPv5 will be little islands connected via IPv6.

    Do Australians make jokes about New Zealanders and vice versa? It is
    the same between the Dutch and the Belgians...

    Yeah we do, for jokes about New Zealanders, it's usually got something to do with sheep. ;)


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