• Release Party....

    From Bucko@21:4/131 to All on Saturday, March 25, 2023 08:23:12
    Hey folks if anyone is interested. I am having a release party of sorts tonight at 10PM EST for my new PFile disk for Image BBS along with my BBS on a stick project of Image BBS for the C64.. It will be held at ciaamiga.org:6400 if you can't get a slot dial into wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 and there will be slots there also... The PFile disk has a couple brand new files written by me (Holiday Announcement, and Birthday Announcement) along with a bunch of conversions of old PFiles over to the new Image 3.0 format. The BBS on a stick project is great for newbies who want to run a BBS but aren't tech savy in the Commodore Emulation world. All you do is unzip it, drop it on your c: drive and run a runme.bat file and it boots into C64 with Lt Kernal Emulation then boot the BBS and configure it up and you are running a BBS!! It's a good way to learn about BBS'n and the Commodore...

    Hope to see some folks tonight...

    AL

    ... I know a good tagline when I steal one!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Bucko on Sunday, March 26, 2023 00:22:03
    Just wanted to thank all those who showed up to the "Release Party" tonight.. It was a pleasure chatting with you all.. The files are available for download now via Facebook, www.wrgnbr.com, www.8bitboyz.com. I will ask Avon to hatch them also in a couple of days.. :)

    Al

    ... A book in the hand is worth two on the shelf!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Sunday, March 26, 2023 03:55:42
    Just wanted to thank all those who showed up to the "Release Party" tonight.. It was a pleasure chatting with you all.. The files are available for download now via Facebook, www.wrgnbr.com,
    www.8bitboyz.com. I will ask Avon to hatch them also in a couple of
    days.. :)

    It was rad to hear you explain about the 2 releases - I'm glad I saw a post about it so I could get by. Thanks!!

    Funny, too, I think I got kicked by that same time-out one of the chatters was warning about. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Sunday, March 26, 2023 08:12:01
    On 26 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...

    It was rad to hear you explain about the 2 releases - I'm glad I saw a post about it so I could get by. Thanks!!

    Funny, too, I think I got kicked by that same time-out one of the
    chatters was warning about. :P


    Thanks for coming.. LOL Yes you did get kicked by timeout.. LOL

    Al

    ... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to Bucko on Monday, March 27, 2023 07:48:09
    On 25 Mar 2023, Bucko said the following...
    Hey folks if anyone is interested. I am having a release party of sorts tonight at 10PM EST for my new PFile disk for Image BBS along with my
    BBS on a stick project of Image BBS for the C64.. It will be held at ciaamiga.org:6400 if you can't get a slot dial into wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 and there will be slots there also... The PFile disk has a couple brand new files written by me (Holiday Announcement, and Birthday
    Announcement) along with a bunch of conversions of old PFiles over to
    the new Image 3.0 format. The BBS on a stick project is great for
    newbies who want to run a BBS but aren't tech savy in the Commodore Emulation world. All you do is unzip it, drop it on your c: drive and
    run a runme.bat file and it boots into C64 with Lt Kernal Emulation then boot the BBS and configure it up and you are running a BBS!! It's a good way to learn about BBS'n and the Commodore...

    Hope to see some folks tonight...

    AL

    Lifes obligations have been a bit insane for me lately. I would love a copy though. Is this being hatched out on fsxNet?

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to Bucko on Monday, March 27, 2023 07:48:53
    On 26 Mar 2023, Bucko said the following...
    www.8bitboyz.com. I will ask Avon to hatch them also in a couple of
    days.. :)

    Al

    Well seems like I spoke too soon ;)

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Monday, March 27, 2023 18:01:35
    On 27 Mar 2023, claw said the following...


    Lifes obligations have been a bit insane for me lately. I would love a copy though. Is this being hatched out on fsxNet?

    DrClaw

    No problem at all.. :) Yes, I am going to send both to Avon for him to hatch at some point.. Thanks for the interest.

    Al

    ... The shortest distance between two points is under construction

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to claw on Monday, March 27, 2023 19:40:59
    [Image BBS on a stick and Bucko's Image mods]

    Lifes obligations have been a bit insane for me lately. I would love a copy though. Is this being hatched out on fsxNet?

    Yer on Linux too, right? I'm [going to] working on porting Bucko's BBS on a stick to work with Linux... any interest/help?



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to paulie420 on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 07:47:30
    On 27 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...
    Yer on Linux too, right? I'm [going to] working on porting Bucko's BBS
    on a stick to work with Linux... any interest/help?

    pAULIE42o
    .........

    you mean get to work on a project with pAULIE42o?!?!?! heck ya. pretty sure it would be super easy as Linux has great emulators.

    Let me know what I can do.

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 20:04:18
    On 27 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...


    Yer on Linux too, right? I'm [going to] working on porting Bucko's BBS
    on a stick to work with Linux... any interest/help?


    Thanks Paulie, I was thinking of doing a bash script to install Vice via a doc sheet I have (and use) then the boot bash script would be used after the install was done.. Gotta test my idea on a test bed..

    Al

    ... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 20:07:20
    On 28 Mar 2023, claw said the following...


    you mean get to work on a project with pAULIE42o?!?!?! heck ya. pretty sure it would be super easy as Linux has great emulators.

    Let me know what I can do.

    The 2 things to do is convert the .bat file to a bash script (I already have on my system here) and then create a bash script or another way of installing Vice in Linux, I have a doc file on how to do it, just not sure if just writing a script would do it step by step.. I can do basic bash scripts but this would be an intense one as there is about 30 steps to getting Vice installed correctly..

    Whatever you guys do is appreciated as I have to step aside from Image for a couple of weekends to finish a new project I want to do on my Mystic board, and do an update on my Synchronet board to 3.20...

    ... A social life? Where can I download that!?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 20:27:42
    The 2 things to do is convert the .bat file to a bash script (I already have on my system here) and then create a bash script or another way of installing Vice in Linux, I have a doc file on how to do it, just not
    sure if just writing a script would do it step by step.. I can do basic bash scripts but this would be an intense one as there is about 30 steps to getting Vice installed correctly..

    Whatever you guys do is appreciated as I have to step aside from Image
    for a couple of weekends to finish a new project I want to do on my
    Mystic board, and do an update on my Synchronet board to 3.20...

    I wasn't even thinking of adding the VICE install to an .sh - I already have VICE installed; and on arch its just 'yay -S vice'... or similar w/ Ubuntu, esc - so I was just gonna modify the BBS-on-a-stick .bat to copy and run (or whatever IT does on Windows..) VICE w/ those configs...

    When I looked, tho, I think I also saw a packet driver that was included - so that would have to be duplicated, too. At any rate, I haven't looked deeper at it but I intend to use BBS-on-a-stick on my Arch [nix] system and will make sure I post here w/ anything I did to get it going... prolly this coming weekend. I have tons of projects, as always, that I'm playing with. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to Bucko on Wednesday, March 29, 2023 07:52:11
    On 28 Mar 2023, Bucko said the following...
    The 2 things to do is convert the .bat file to a bash script (I already have on my system here) and then create a bash script or another way of installing Vice in Linux, I have a doc file on how to do it, just not
    sure if just writing a script would do it step by step.. I can do basic bash scripts but this would be an intense one as there is about 30 steps to getting Vice installed correctly..

    Whatever you guys do is appreciated as I have to step aside from Image
    for a couple of weekends to finish a new project I want to do on my
    Mystic board, and do an update on my Synchronet board to 3.20...


    Sounds good I'm not super bash writer or anything but I do have a book with extras for when there needed. Could even do it in python. Linux comes with python.

    I've been around if paulie is up to it I'm sure he will hit me up.

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Wednesday, March 29, 2023 18:16:35
    On 28 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...

    I wasn't even thinking of adding the VICE install to an .sh - I already have VICE installed; and on arch its just 'yay -S vice'... or similar w/ Ubuntu, esc - so I was just gonna modify the BBS-on-a-stick .bat to copy and run (or whatever IT does on Windows..) VICE w/ those configs...

    When I looked, tho, I think I also saw a packet driver that was included
    - so that would have to be duplicated, too. At any rate, I haven't
    looked deeper at it but I intend to use BBS-on-a-stick on my Arch [nix] system and will make sure I post here w/ anything I did to get it
    going... prolly this coming weekend. I have tons of projects, as always, that I'm playing with. :P


    LOL no biggie, I already have a bash script which starts tcpser, then Vice and goes as far as autobooting the BBS software. In fact technically, I could set a cron to run the script immediately after boot up to auto boot right into the BBS. I am more worried about doing a Vice install so it installs all of the dependencies etc. I had issues with Debian/Ubuntu a few years back with Vice installing really old versions from the repositories.. I am going to look closer into creating a bash script installing Vice from scratch though..

    AL

    ... That's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Wednesday, March 29, 2023 18:17:18

    On 29 Mar 2023, claw said the following...


    Sounds good I'm not super bash writer or anything but I do have a book with extras for when there needed. Could even do it in python. Linux comes with python.

    I've been around if paulie is up to it I'm sure he will hit me up.

    DrClaw

    Thank you Sir!! :)

    Al

    ... A .GIF is worth a thousand .TXT.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Wednesday, March 29, 2023 18:58:41
    LOL no biggie, I already have a bash script which starts tcpser, then
    Vice and goes as far as autobooting the BBS software. In fact
    technically, I could set a cron to run the script immediately after boot up to auto boot right into the BBS. I am more worried about doing a
    Vice install so it installs all of the dependencies etc. I had issues
    with Debian/Ubuntu a few years back with Vice installing really old versions from the repositories.. I am going to look closer into creating
    a bash script installing Vice from scratch though..

    Yep, thats all I was looking to write - and would have to include tcpser for Linux, or the source... yer idea of installing VICE is probably SMARTER, but theres so many flavors of Linux that... maybe just support Ubuntu and the other folks will know what to do. :P

    What you describe as having is all I was gonna try to do - maybe I'll bug you for it on yer bbSes.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to paulie420 on Thursday, March 30, 2023 07:59:42
    On 29 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...
    Yep, thats all I was looking to write - and would have to include tcpser for Linux, or the source... yer idea of installing VICE is probably SMARTER, but theres so many flavors of Linux that... maybe just support Ubuntu and the other folks will know what to do. :P

    What you describe as having is all I was gonna try to do - maybe I'll
    bug you for it on yer bbSes.

    pAULIE42o
    .........

    You just use Flatpack. Then you can make it work on all flavors of Linux.

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Thursday, March 30, 2023 19:56:55
    On 29 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...


    Yep, thats all I was looking to write - and would have to include tcpser for Linux, or the source... yer idea of installing VICE is probably SMARTER, but theres so many flavors of Linux that... maybe just support Ubuntu and the other folks will know what to do. :P

    What you describe as having is all I was gonna try to do - maybe I'll
    bug you for it on yer bbSes.


    You know, I didn't think of the other flavors other then Debian/Ubuntu.. Good point!!! I will put together a package of the source codes of the Vice I use which works with file transfers, and TCPSER and let those who want to play with it assemble themselves. I will include my bash script to boot it all.. Thanks for the info Paulie...

    AL

    ... "I am" is the shortest sentence in English. Is 'I do' the longest?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Thursday, March 30, 2023 19:57:38
    On 30 Mar 2023, claw said the following...

    You just use Flatpack. Then you can make it work on all flavors of
    Linux.

    Hmmm.. I need to look into Flatpack...

    AL

    ... It said "insert disk #3", but only two will fit...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Thursday, March 30, 2023 19:04:53
    You know, I didn't think of the other flavors other then Debian/Ubuntu.. Good point!!! I will put together a package of the source codes of the Vice I use which works with file transfers, and TCPSER and let those who want to play with it assemble themselves. I will include my bash script
    to boot it all.. Thanks for the info Paulie...

    Personally I think you could just include info on how to install Vice in the package - once yer scripts are created for like... Ubuntu, they become 'unusable' without modification on say.. Arch.

    Prereqs = VICE x.x, telser - with telser it might be neat to supply the source and build it using tools that are available on all nix flavors. Its small enough, should just be a make / make install- or move to a directory.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to paulie420 on Friday, March 31, 2023 07:49:14
    On 30 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...
    Personally I think you could just include info on how to install Vice in the package - once yer scripts are created for like... Ubuntu, they
    become 'unusable' without modification on say.. Arch.

    pAULIE42o
    .........

    Not on flatpack. Flatpack creates an isolated mini install with only what is needed to make the program work. It still relies on the underlying OS a little but anything it needs to run will be built in. Older libraries newer libraries OS specific commands for a bash script. you name it. On top of that if someone has Linux subsystem for windows you can run it on windows too.

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to claw on Friday, March 31, 2023 07:50:29
    Not on flatpack. Flatpack creates an isolated mini install with only
    what is needed to make the program work. It still relies on the underlying OS a little but anything it needs to run will be built in. Older libraries newer libraries OS specific commands for a bash script. you name it. On top of that if someone has Linux subsystem for windows you can run it on windows too.

    I know - I hate running flatpak (or snap's), but yer right... only problem is - while they'll certainly have VICE, they won't have smaller packages - syncterm, telser, etc...



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Friday, March 31, 2023 20:00:24
    On 30 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...


    Personally I think you could just include info on how to install Vice in the package - once yer scripts are created for like... Ubuntu, they
    become 'unusable' without modification on say.. Arch.

    Prereqs = VICE x.x, telser - with telser it might be neat to supply the source and build it using tools that are available on all nix flavors.
    Its small enough, should just be a make / make install- or move to a directory.



    Great info, I will do that this coming week and release a update for *nix..

    Thanks for the tips!!

    ... If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to paulie420 on Monday, April 03, 2023 07:35:22
    On 31 Mar 2023, paulie420 said the following...
    I know - I hate running flatpak (or snap's), but yer right... only
    problem is - while they'll certainly have VICE, they won't have smaller packages - syncterm, telser, etc...

    pAULIE42o
    .........

    What I'm saying to do is make a flatpack with all of that software in one package. So its a one piece install.

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Monday, April 03, 2023 18:16:26
    On 03 Apr 2023, claw said the following...


    What I'm saying to do is make a flatpack with all of that software in one package. So its a one piece install.


    I am going to look into Flatpack.. I like the idea that it could all be in one package.. Including a doc file and source code is one thing, some folks will have issues with assembling etc.. If Flatpack handles that I am all for it!! Thanks again DC...

    ... Users come in two types: Those who have lost data, and those who will.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to Bucko on Tuesday, April 04, 2023 08:02:01
    On 03 Apr 2023, Bucko said the following...
    I am going to look into Flatpack.. I like the idea that it could all be
    in one package.. Including a doc file and source code is one thing, some folks will have issues with assembling etc.. If Flatpack handles that I
    am all for it!! Thanks again DC...


    Whoot let me know when its ready I have got to check it out!

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to claw on Tuesday, April 04, 2023 18:35:27
    On 04 Apr 2023, claw said the following...


    Whoot let me know when its ready I have got to check it out!


    I will but I have to learn how to use Flatpack first.. LOL

    ... A program is used to turn data into error messages.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)