• Linux FTN Tossers

    From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to All on Saturday, January 26, 2019 23:27:44
    Hey folks.. been awhile since I've posted in here.. but i have this crazy
    idea for a project in mind but I can't find a good FTN processor.. I tried Crashmail II but it corrupts the JAM bases and the BBS cannot read them ..

    I saw something about FMail for Linux but I haven't found any links .. and
    the Husky project is nothing but a huge headache to me lol

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Night Stalker on Saturday, January 26, 2019 21:34:34
    Hey folks.. been awhile since I've posted in here.. but i have this crazy idea for a project in mind but I can't find a good FTN processor.. I tried Crashmail II but it corrupts the JAM bases and the BBS cannot read them ..

    I saw something about FMail for Linux but I haven't found any links ..

    I believe FMail can be found on sourceforge.net.

    and the Husky project is nothing but a huge headache to me lol

    Husky can be a PITA at first but once it is setup works well.

    If you have questions about husky I might be able to help.

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  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Night Stalker on Saturday, January 26, 2019 23:55:23
    On 26 Jan 2019, Night Stalker said the following...

    Hey folks.. been awhile since I've posted in here.. but i have this crazy idea for a project in mind but I can't find a good FTN processor.. I
    tried Crashmail II but it corrupts the JAM bases and the BBS cannot read them ..


    Lookup fidoip on Sourceforge. It sort of simplifies things.

    I saw something about FMail for Linux but I haven't found any links ..
    and the Husky project is nothing but a huge headache to me lol


    The above mentioned fidoip uses Husky. FMail looks like it's Windoze only at them moment. I'll keep an eye out for any other ftn tossers.

    Fireball

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Night Stalker on Sunday, January 27, 2019 19:29:36
    On 26 Jan 2019, Night Stalker pondered and said...

    Hey folks.. been awhile since I've posted in here.. but i have this crazy idea for a project in mind but I can't find a good FTN processor.. I
    tried Crashmail II but it corrupts the JAM bases and the BBS cannot read them ..

    Mystic runs on Linux, so you may wish to look at MUTIL :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Al on Monday, January 28, 2019 18:54:15
    On 26 Jan 2019, Al said the following...


    I believe FMail can be found on sourceforge.net.


    The only versions of FMail I have found on sourceforge were the Win32/DOS versions .. I thought Wilfred van Velzen was the developer of the LNX port?
    The search continues I suppose lol


    Husky can be a PITA at first but once it is setup works well.

    If you have questions about husky I might be able to help.


    I just need to know which modules I need for a fully functional tosser with areafix+filefix+tic support

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    * Origin: internal dimension + idbbs.dlinkddns.com + port 59 (21:1/178)
  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Avon on Monday, January 28, 2019 18:55:38
    On 27 Jan 2019, Avon said the following...


    Mystic runs on Linux, so you may wish to look at MUTIL :)

    Best, Paul


    lol Avon :D I run Mystic .. I am setting up something a little different for another project BBS using EleBBS/Linux so I need something that wont corrupt the jam base like Crashmail does

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    * Origin: internal dimension + idbbs.dlinkddns.com + port 59 (21:1/178)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Night Stalker on Monday, January 28, 2019 12:56:54
    I believe FMail can be found on sourceforge.net.

    The only versions of FMail I have found on sourceforge were the Win32/DOS versions .. I thought Wilfred van Velzen was the developer of the LNX port? The search continues I suppose lol

    Yes, Wilfred has been maintaining/developing FMail for a while now. I have seen
    PIDs (or maybe it was tear lines) of FMail/Linux but I don't know much about it.

    Husky can be a PITA at first but once it is setup works well.

    If you have questions about husky I might be able to help.


    I just need to know which modules I need for a fully functional tosser with areafix+filefix+tic support

    You need to copy (and edit) the huskymak.cfg in the huskybse package and place it in the root of your husky directory below the hpt etc directory. If your libs are in lib64 change LIBDIR=$PREFIX/lib to LIBDIR=$PREFIX/lib64.

    I also find the order you build stuff is important, start with huskylib, smapi and fidoconf and do areafix before hpt (if you use hpt). From there you can build whatever you need. sqpack works on jam as well as squish bases.. nltools if you want nodelist utilities, msged for a msg editor. msged will take some fixing to work. htick if you want tic support and the tosser hpt.

    There's a bunch of other stuff in there too, some of it doesn't work anymore and isn't really needed anyway.

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  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Night Stalker on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:40:08
    On 28 Jan 2019, Night Stalker said the following...

    lol Avon :D I run Mystic .. I am setting up something a little different for another project BBS using EleBBS/Linux so I need something that wont corrupt the jam base like Crashmail does


    For a list, look at the JAM Message Base Format section of Wikipedia (I can't paste the link). Among others, the list includes fastecho and gecho. You can try either or both of them. Also, for filefixing, allfix should do the job as well.

    Fireball

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    * Origin: Fireball Express!!! Mystic Edition (21:4/145)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Night Stalker on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 11:38:51
    On 28 Jan 2019, Night Stalker pondered and said...

    lol Avon :D I run Mystic .. I am setting up something a little different for another project BBS using EleBBS/Linux so I need something that wont corrupt the jam base like Crashmail does

    I'm just suggesting using the combo of Mystic and MUTIL to do the config of message JAM bases and tossing respectively. Once running you could point your software of choice to the JAM bases to read and post to, then call MUTIL to toss stuff in/out ... BinkD could pick up the packets etc. or another
    mailer of your choice etc... so the extent of Mystic help would not be very great if you wanted that ... anyways just some thoughts..as MUTIL is a good
    up to date tosser that is cross platform.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Fireball on Monday, January 28, 2019 20:53:04
    On 28 Jan 2019, Fireball said the following...


    For a list, look at the JAM Message Base Format section of Wikipedia (I can't paste the link). Among others, the list includes fastecho and
    gecho. You can try either or both of them. Also, for filefixing, allfix should do the job as well.

    Those are all DOS.. as stated I'm looking for FMail/Linux

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    * Origin: internal dimension + idbbs.dlinkddns.com + port 59 (21:1/178)
  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Avon on Monday, January 28, 2019 20:54:57
    On 29 Jan 2019, Avon said the following...

    I'm just suggesting using the combo of Mystic and MUTIL to do the config of message JAM bases and tossing respectively. Once running you could

    Already had that idea and dismissed it. I dont want to 'make do' on this
    new project lol

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    * Origin: internal dimension + idbbs.dlinkddns.com + port 59 (21:1/178)
  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Night Stalker on Monday, January 28, 2019 21:17:26
    On 28 Jan 2019, Night Stalker said the following...

    Those are all DOS.. as stated I'm looking for FMail/Linux


    My bad... Theoretically you could use dosemu to run any of them. lol! Joking aside, you could also take Avon's advice and use mystic/mutil to make the message bases and toss messages to them, while pointing EleBBS at the files. It's kind of what I like to call Southern Engineered, but it'd work since JAM is JAM.

    Fireball

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  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Night Stalker on Monday, January 28, 2019 21:27:15
    On 28 Jan 2019, Night Stalker said the following...

    Already had that idea and dismissed it. I dont want to 'make do' on this new project lol


    Your options are going to be limited. I don't know if JAM is supported, but fidogate can be used as a tosser. Supposedly, the hpt from the husky project should work otherwise. *shrugs*

    Fireball

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  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Fireball on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 09:04:35
    On 28 Jan 2019, Fireball said the following...

    My bad... Theoretically you could use dosemu to run any of them. lol! Joking aside, you could also take Avon's advice and use mystic/mutil to make the message bases and toss messages to them, while pointing EleBBS
    at the files. It's kind of what I like to call Southern Engineered, but it'd work since JAM is JAM.

    1) dosemu is broken .. it crashes every time it tries to unzip a file with PKUNZIP ... go figure lol

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  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Night Stalker on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 08:33:02
    On 30 Jan 2019, Night Stalker said the following...

    1) dosemu is broken .. it crashes every time it tries to unzip a file
    with PKUNZIP ... go figure lol


    I don't generally have that problem, but you could always try raising the amount of files and buffers you can open. Have you tried using a newer version of Freedos? Or maybe MS-DOS. DR-DOS, or the like? Also, have a look at
    dosemu2 on github. It's a fork that's being actively developed. There are
    ways to get around most crashes, you just have to look for them. :)

    Fireball

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Night Stalker on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 14:02:02
    1) dosemu is broken .. it crashes every time it tries to unzip a file with PKUNZIP ... go figure lol

    DOSEMU (or rather the kernel) doesn't support (I forget what it's called) memory usage anymore. Try "pkunzip -)" and see if it works.

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  • From BitByter@21:4/105 to Night Stalker on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 18:39:56
    Hello Night!

    30 Jan 19 09:04, you wrote to Fireball:

    My bad... Theoretically you could use dosemu to run any of them.
    lol! Joking aside, you could also take Avon's advice and use
    mystic/mutil to make the message bases and toss messages to them,
    while pointing EleBBS at the files. It's kind of what I like to
    call Southern Engineered, but it'd work since JAM is JAM.

    1) dosemu is broken .. it crashes every time it tries to unzip a file
    with PKUNZIP ... go figure lol

    Try switching to InfoZip's zip.exe and unzip.exe. They are available for DOS. They work fine here under dosemu.

    BitByter

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  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to Fireball on Thursday, January 31, 2019 09:23:25
    On 30 Jan 2019, Fireball said the following...

    I don't generally have that problem, but you could always try raising the amount of files and buffers you can open. Have you tried using a newer version of Freedos? Or maybe MS-DOS. DR-DOS, or the like? Also, have a look at dosemu2 on github. It's a fork that's being actively developed. There are ways to get around most crashes, you just have to look for
    them. :)


    I appreciate all the feedback on this topic, but I do not wish to pursue any
    of these 'make do' routes. I will keep searching for native tools so I dont have to niggah rig stuff to make it work. It's 2019 not 1999 lol there is always a proper solution to a problem if one has the fortitude to be
    persistant :D

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Night Stalker on Thursday, January 31, 2019 11:35:53
    I appreciate all the feedback on this topic, but I do not wish to pursue any of these 'make do' routes. I will keep searching for native tools so
    I dont have to niggah rig stuff to make it work. It's 2019 not 1999 lol there is always a proper solution to a problem if one has the fortitude
    to be persistant :D

    I can appreciate the wisdom of these words!

    +1

    Cheers!

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to Night Stalker on Friday, February 01, 2019 07:14:11
    On 01/31/19, Night Stalker said the following...
    I appreciate all the feedback on this topic, but I do not wish to pursue any of these 'make do' routes. I will keep searching for native tools so

    If it helps, I'm writing one - my plan is to toss mail into a database, which will be zone agnostic. I kinda of covered this a little while ago, with the cockroachdb discussion.

    That said, its stalled a bit. I have cockroach running over 3 hosts, and I
    have the packet parsing, but I just need to now do the DB inserts. Then, the
    DB exports to feed my BBS (and potentially other nodes).

    ...deon

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  • From Night Stalker@21:1/178 to StackFault on Friday, February 01, 2019 08:35:04
    On 31 Jan 2019, StackFault said the following...

    I can appreciate the wisdom of these words!


    There is nobody more persistant than I am lol.. I know what I want.. I just gotta figure out a way to get it lmao

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  • From Ozz Nixon@21:1/144 to Night Stalker on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 13:30:04
    Hello Night.

    31 Jan 19 09:23, you wrote to Fireball:

    I appreciate all the feedback on this topic, but I do not wish to
    pursue any of these 'make do' routes. I will keep searching for native tools so I dont have to niggah rig stuff to make it work. It's 2019
    not 1999 lol there is always a proper solution to a problem if one has
    the fortitude to be persistant :D

    Just katching up ... I had the similar issue - it ended up months later I found
    it was not just PKUNZIP that was having an issue - it was any binary in a certain path. Some how the host folder became rw-rw-rw- no support execute. Which flowed all the way up to DOSEMU's binaries in that folder. I assume I had
    done this - but not sure how or why...

    Ozz

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