• Re: The Pit 4.17

    From ryan@21:1/168 to SirRonmit on Sunday, January 12, 2020 09:26:05
    Does the setup include the "starting out" options? I know 4.17 does, but the version I have does not (and I think mine is 4.08, not 4.07 after looking).

    Not sure, where would I find that?

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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to ryan on Sunday, January 12, 2020 16:17:32
    Does the setup include the "starting out" options? I know 4.17 does, the version I have does not (and I think mine is 4.08, not 4.07 after looking).

    Not sure, where would I find that?

    go to the door directory .. (in DOS prompt for me) and run pitedit.exe
    (hit Enter twice for Default)
    in the new window you will see a menu on the left.
    PIT GAME CONFIGURATION EDIT.
    Older Versions have:
    - Load Game Config
    - Game Config
    - Save Game Config as
    - General Game Setup
    - Hand Weapon ....

    etc..

    v4.17 has all the above, but:
    in between the
    - General Game Setup
    and
    - Hand Weapon
    there is
    - Game Start-Up Settings

    it allows you to give players default or modified items when they start playing. Like, instead of 200gp they can get 500gp. Or, instead of bare
    hands, you can give them a dagger, etc.

    Tim N
    admin@f4fbbs.com

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to SirRonmit on Sunday, January 12, 2020 16:56:34
    in between the
    - General Game Setup
    and
    - Hand Weapon
    there is
    - Game Start-Up Settings

    Yep, this exists.

    it allows you to give players default or modified items when they start playing. Like, instead of 200gp they can get 500gp. Or, instead of bare hands, you can give them a dagger, etc.

    There are three options in this version:
    1. Player: Starting money
    2. Player: Base hit percent
    3. Enemy: Base hit percent

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  • From jokker@21:4/154 to jokker on Sunday, January 12, 2020 19:59:06
    Ugh, I know your pain. I'm stubbornly trying to crack QuickBBS of all things. I setup RA because it was available but Quick was my BBS of the era. So I'd really like to use it. However no cracks, no keys, nothing
    to be found... So I figured ah while not I'll give it a shot. At least there are depacks for most encryption/compression tools so you can get
    the raw exe. The real trick is trying to figure out the logic of course. No luck yet but I'll keep poking away...maybe I'll get lucky :D

    Well looks like I got lucky! I was poking around in IDA mapping out the calls and I ended up noticing that there was another way. :) I noticed I could put the plain key in the cfg file and then run menuedit which exits immediately after validating a bad key. So I wrote up a little app in C and had it simply iterate through the possible values (It's only a 4 byte key and it can only
    be a value of 1000000000 and 1999999999) and sent it brute forcing away in dosbox on turbo. I check periodically to see if it actually gets into
    menuedit and record the key value being watched in a hexeditor. I've got
    about 10 keys now of varying types (Gold, Bronze, Beta, etc) now. :D

    I might continue down my path of reversing the generation algorithm and maybe figure out how to write a proper keygen for it. I know I'm pretty close to
    the general gist of the code itself. Then perhaps I can give The Pit a shot since I too, absolutely love the game. I even remember giving that RIP client
    a shot back in the day but ultimately prefer the ANSI honestly.

    _Troy

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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to jokker on Sunday, January 12, 2020 20:07:41
    Well looks like I got lucky! I was poking around in IDA mapping out the

    Sounds promising!

    Tim N

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  • From Grud@21:4/115 to SirRonmit on Saturday, January 11, 2020 12:12:16
    On 10 Jan 2020, SirRonmit said the following...

    I think others have tried. I have 4.07 registered and it "appears" only some of the setup items are available with 4.17 that I noticed (I ran
    4.17 for a while and it kept giving me CPU errors and locking up my Win
    7 Virtual / Mystic BBS.

    Is there really much difference between 4.07 and 4.17 anyway? I looked into
    it one time in the WHATSNEW and there was pretty much zero difference.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to jokker on Sunday, January 12, 2020 22:40:48
    Ugh, I know your pain. I'm stubbornly trying to crack QuickBBS of all things. I setup RA because it was available but Quick was my BBS of t era. So I'd really like to use it. However no cracks, no keys, nothin to be found... So I figured ah while not I'll give it a shot. At leas there are depacks for most encryption/compression tools so you can ge the raw exe. The real trick is trying to figure out the logic of cour No luck yet but I'll keep poking away...maybe I'll get lucky :D

    Fascinating! I'd love to figure out how to do stuff like this. Very
    impressive :)

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to jokker on Monday, January 13, 2020 18:26:38
    jokker wrote to jokker <=-

    I might continue down my path of reversing the generation algorithm and maybe figure out how to write a proper keygen for it. I know I'm pretty close to the general gist of the code itself. Then perhaps I can give
    The Pit a shot since I too, absolutely love the game. I even remember giving that RIP client a shot back in the day but ultimately prefer the ANSI honestly.

    At some point in the future I would like to try getting a few old things I
    have "registered" in some manner as they are no longer registerable via any official means. :(

    I know some people used to be able to figure out such things using a hex editor... sounds like some are not so friendly. :)


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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to Grud on Monday, January 13, 2020 17:32:34
    Is there really much difference between 4.07 and 4.17 anyway? I looked into it one time in the WHATSNEW and there was pretty much zero difference.

    game play = no
    game setup = yes (able to preset default starting equipment)
    gaming = yes (4.17 has the cool EGA/VGA interface which makes the entire game SO different.)

    Tim N

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  • From Grud@21:4/115 to SirRonmit on Monday, January 13, 2020 21:02:22
    game play = no
    game setup = yes (able to preset default starting equipment)
    gaming = yes (4.17 has the cool EGA/VGA interface which makes the entire game SO different.)

    Good to know. It would be nice to have a proper keygen for 4.17 considering the age of the game and the fact that the author has passed on.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Grud on Monday, January 13, 2020 22:38:42
    Good to know. It would be nice to have a proper keygen for 4.17 considering the age of the game and the fact that the author has passed on.

    I'm also rather certain that registered copies of the game were compiled independently and don't actually have any type of key file. Bummer.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to jokker on Monday, January 13, 2020 18:26:38
    jokker wrote to jokker <=-

    I might continue down my path of reversing the generation algorithm and maybe figure out how to write a proper keygen for it. I know I'm pretty close to the general gist of the code itself. Then perhaps I can give
    The Pit a shot since I too, absolutely love the game. I even remember giving that RIP client a shot back in the day but ultimately prefer the ANSI honestly.

    At some point in the future I would like to try getting a few old things I
    have "registered" in some manner as they are no longer registerable via any official means. :(

    I know some people used to be able to figure out such things using a hex editor... sounds like some are not so friendly. :)


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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to ryan on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 17:31:27
    Good to know. It would be nice to have a proper keygen for 4.17 considering the age of the game and the fact that the author has pass on.

    I'm also rather certain that registered copies of the game were compiled independently and don't actually have any type of key file. Bummer.


    Yeah. I even tried copying over the .exe to the 4.17 directory and it told me that it 'knew' that the other files within the same directory were of different versions :(

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  • From Grud@21:4/115 to ryan on Thursday, January 16, 2020 10:44:16
    independently and don't actually have any type of key file. Bummer.

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    Argh, that would make sense. I believe I tried to combine that registered
    4.07 into the newest release and found the same thing. Searched high and low for the key and didn't find it in a separate file.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Grud on Thursday, January 16, 2020 14:20:38
    Argh, that would make sense. I believe I tried to combine that
    registered 4.07 into the newest release and found the same thing. Searched high and low for the key and didn't find it in a separate file.

    So I guess if we had an unregistered 4.15 we'd be able to compare it to my registered 4.15?

    I can't find unregged 4.15 sadly. I'd like to diff the components and see precisely what's different.

    I ran `strings` against the various files and grep'd for anything resembling registration info, which prints during door launch...nothing jumped out at me :(

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  • From Grud@21:4/115 to ryan on Sunday, January 19, 2020 10:24:11
    I guess we need to find someone with a registered 4.17 and just have them
    share with the community. I pretty much just have a few doors for historical reasons only.

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  • From Alpha to Grud on Friday, September 03, 2021 08:47:06

    I guess we need to find someone with a registered 4.17 and just have them share with the community. I pretty much just have a few doors for historical reasons only.

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    This is an old thread, but I'm currently looking for a REGISTERED copy of The Pit 4.17 -- or 4.15 for that matter! Author passed away a while ago, and it doesn't seem like this game has ever been cracked?

    If you've got one, mind sending to to robbiew@gmail.com? Or point me to a BBS that has it in the Files section?

    Cheers,

    aLPHA
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Friday, September 03, 2021 17:55:49

    This is an old thread, but I'm currently looking for a REGISTERED copy
    of The Pit 4.17 -- or 4.15 for that matter! Author passed away a while ago, and it doesn't seem like this game has ever been cracked?


    Hey buddy, do you have ALL the Dink Door Reg packs and other [normal, available] Door Game REG crack collections? I have all of them on 2o, and can zip em up for this project... is that something I should drop in /sysops?



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

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