• RE: New BBS in the works.

    From Al@21:4/106.1 to Phoobar on Monday, February 24, 2020 15:56:12
    Thanks for posting this up here. I'm going to play the village
    idiot for a second (even though my ex has another name for this
    title). Just picked up ArcaOS 5.0.4 personal today...added on an
    extra year of support & got a Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e Thin Client
    G465 1.9GHz 8GB/4GB F/R W7SE w/ AC/DVD WiFi for a $50 offer.

    That sounds like fun. I ran OS/2 back before IBM threw in the towel. I
    was so dissapointed back then.

    I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go
    already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux
    covers all my needs.. so..

    Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
    OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
    programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
    ask.

    I'm not sure of what kind of OSs Magicka can run on. OS/2 or ArcaOS are
    going to have drive letters. That might throw a wrench into the gears. It
    may not either since there are many softwares (Synchronet comes to mind)
    that can be built on Windows/Linux/Mac/Pi.

    Apam has been building and running a BBS on windows recently. Makes
    me think he may be working that into Magicka.. but I don't know. I
    suspect he may comment on your post.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Phoobar on Monday, February 24, 2020 16:09:10
    I seem to remember that one of the reasons folks wanted to get away
    from *.MSG was because of the space hardly any of us had/could
    afford at the time. If this is the case...would it really matter
    what format you use if you have the excess space?

    With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area. I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

    In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so I
    have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and
    MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.

    I don't think anyone writing doors or utilities today would use that
    method, they'd likely use a filebox. These utilities/doors I am talking
    about predate fileboxes. Back then attaching files to a message (think FrontDoor) was the we we moved stuff. Today I'd avoid it if at all
    possible.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Monday, February 24, 2020 17:17:30
    That sounds like fun. I ran OS/2 back before IBM threw in the towel. I
    was so dissapointed back then.

    So was I. Was looking into getting my certification in OS/2 25 years
    ago...but that was before I went to work at Gateway & found what I needed to get my MCSE in NT 4.

    I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux covers all my needs.. so..

    Been playing around with Warp for several months. Was looking at getting it running to put the board on...but couldn't get the networking stack working. That's changed.

    Was watching some You Tube videos on ArcaOS yesterday. 2 hours with the designers & seeing it run made up my mind. May just be a project I goof
    around with like 20+ years ago.

    I'm not sure of what kind of OSs Magicka can run on. OS/2 or ArcaOS are going to have drive letters. That might throw a wrench into the gears. It may not either since there are many softwares (Synchronet comes to mind) that can be built on Windows/Linux/Mac/Pi.

    That helps to answer a question & helps not to waste some time when something better would work much better. Will do some more research & see what's been done with WWIV as well with the 5 builds. Can't be the only one who is asking these questions.

    Apam has been building and running a BBS on windows recently. Makes
    me think he may be working that into Magicka.. but I don't know. I
    suspect he may comment on your post.

    Love asking questions...since some times they lead to answers.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Monday, February 24, 2020 17:22:11
    With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area. I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

    I remember that with Telegard. Also remember the guys were were running
    Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.

    In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so I have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.
    about predate fileboxes. Back then attaching files to a message (think FrontDoor) was the we we moved stuff. Today I'd avoid it if at all possible.

    Had no idea after 30 years...people would even consider it.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:31:00
    On 02-24-20 15:56, Al wrote to Phoobar <=-

    I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux covers all my needs.. so..

    I've looked at it too. Very tempting, but have to be realistic for now. When I get a bit more money, I might buy a copy and possibly a system to run it on, instead of using a VM. I'm not sure what software I'd run on it. I could resurrect my old system as a museum piece, or look for something native. But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:37:00
    On 02-24-20 16:09, Al wrote to Phoobar <=-

    With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area.
    I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

    Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte "me too" message. :D

    In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have
    a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so
    I have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.

    I used to like having my netmail on my old system passing through as *.msg at an intermediate stage of processing. That was useful for the address manipulation that I did for my GIGO gateway. I could use NetMgr to change address headers on the fly, so othernets using my gateway could address their netmails from a dummy address on the othernet, which got rewritten to the actual (Fidonet) address as the netmail passed through. Incoming gated email would have its source address changed from the Fidonet one to the matching fake address that matched the destination FTN address.

    So far, I haven't had that need in recent times.

    As for echomail, I'd never use *.msg for that.


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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:58:45
    Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
    OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
    programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
    ask.

    It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I
    have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as
    various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but
    that's about all I know ;)

    It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

    Andrew

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, February 24, 2020 20:01:21
    Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte
    "me too" message. :D

    Much much worse than that. The stations I was working at were using FAT16
    with DOS for the Phantom software. Eventually...the author started using
    FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted space & fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an idea of setting the software
    up under FreeDOS...but never had the time or ability to take systems down
    which were running 24/7.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to apam on Monday, February 24, 2020 20:08:50
    Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
    OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
    It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as

    Was playing around with a copy of 4.52 I found over on the Internet Archive. Not having played around with it for 20+ years...the good memories I had
    using it started coming back.

    various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but that's about all I know ;)

    Had to wait until I got my refunds to get my copy. It does have some changes from Warp in terms of the *nix hooks to run the software being ported over. Being naive & lack of intelligence in programming...just had a thought that
    if you had the same libraries used to build the packages under the same architecture...might just work. Naive I know...

    It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

    Very true. Put 2/3-3/4 of the refund into savings to eventually get a car/truck...but wanted to spend a little of it on a new set of toys to keep
    my mind sharp. Love having those "hold my beer moments" when I get an idea to try. ;)

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to apam on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 09:38:41
    25 Feb 20 11:58, you wrote to Phoobar:

    Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
    OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
    programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
    ask.

    It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but that's about all I know ;)

    It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

    Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
    ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
    4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network card, IIRC) and
    then was to lazy
    to figure out the problem.

    Btw, gcc 9.2 has been ported to OS/2

    https://www.osnews.com/story/131305/gcc-9-2-compiler-ported-to-os-2-warp-arcaos -ecomstation/

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Oli on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 20:19:57
    Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
    ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
    4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network
    card, IIRC) and then was to lazy
    to figure out the problem.

    I don't know how much has changed between ecomstation and arcaos so I
    can't answer that. If it runs on ecomstation then it should, but i don't
    know whether the other way around applies.

    I saw that gcc 9.2 had been ported, it is also possible to get yum and
    rpm onto ecomstation but at present the bootstrap contains too old
    version of rpm to bootstrap itself, and I gave up.

    Andrew

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to apam on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 06:14:03
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:04p, apam pondered and said...

    So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package (because
    that's what I do when I am bored).

    Cool!

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:29:33
    I remember that with Telegard. Also remember the guys were were
    running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.

    With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the
    limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at all.

    Had no idea after 30 years...people would even consider it.

    In my case it seems to come up from time to time. There are other ways to
    do it for just for the occasional *.msg, netmgr or cfroute.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:40:31
    I've looked at it too. Very tempting, but have to be realistic for
    now. When I get a bit more money, I might buy a copy and possibly
    a system to run it on, instead of using a VM. I'm not sure what
    software I'd run on it. I could resurrect my old system as a
    museum piece, or look for something native.

    There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple
    of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

    But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

    The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent fix
    for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

    GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
    BBSing although it's not like it once was.

    The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making
    available lots of OS/2 stuff.

    If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with
    all the usual stuff.








    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Al on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 09:26:16
    On 25 Feb 2020 at 11:40a, Al pondered and said...

    But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

    The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent fix for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

    The fix for that is sitting in a pull request. It would be
    great if people could ping it:

    https://github.com/pgul/binkd/pull/17

    Perhaps that will exert some gentle pressure on Pavel to
    merge it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:41:16
    Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
    ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or

    Neither did I...but when I was able to run on bare metal...Warp smoked
    anything MS was currently offering. Am hoping that this new system I'm
    getting in a week will make smoke come out of the case from being too fast
    for me.

    ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
    4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network card, IIRC) and then was to lazy
    to figure out the problem.

    I used Virtualbox to install it...since it had the additions to make Warp run like it's supposed to. My problem with the networking was solved by an image
    I got from Sean Dennis. Seeing how the network was setup in there allowed me
    to recreate it myself in Virtualbox.

    If you would like some help...let me know. When I finally got the networking running in Warp...I felt pretty stupid since I just needed to change some settings after loading up the new networking stack.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:44:15
    running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.
    With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at all.

    I seem to remember reading something about that back in the day. Have a
    feeling it was a solution for a problem which came too late.

    In my case it seems to come up from time to time. There are other ways to do it for just for the occasional *.msg, netmgr or cfroute.

    Nice that we still have a way to do this on an occasional basis.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:47:49
    Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

    Sean Dennis is still running Maximus.

    The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making available lots of OS/2 stuff.
    If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with all the usual stuff.

    I would certainly like the link.

    Finally got AcraOS setup on Virtualbox. It flies! Even used the native telnet client to log into my BBS...but was getting a lot of garbage characters. Getting it to connect & log on was the highlight of the night!

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 13:02:24
    Sean Dennis is still running Maximus.

    That's one I was thinking of. The other I haven't been able to log into
    for years because I forgot the password but my user account hasn't been
    deleted since the late 90's.. ;)

    If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here
    along with all the usual stuff.

    I would certainly like the link.

    Netmail or email me (agianson@gmail.com) and we'll get the link setup.

    I just need the details to setup the link. Session password and areafix
    and packet passwords (if any).

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 08:56:00
    On 02-24-20 20:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte
    "me too" message. :D

    Much much worse than that. The stations I was working at were using
    FAT16 with DOS for the Phantom software. Eventually...the author
    started using FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted space
    & fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an

    FAT32 only has 4k clusters, which would mean a saving of up to 60k per message!

    idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the time
    or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.

    That's always a hassle.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 09:14:00
    On 02-25-20 11:40, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish
    and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

    I know there was, but the issue is all those are dated, so good for legacy systems, but that's about it. I never ran Maximus back in the day, so that would be a new experience.

    But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

    The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent
    fix for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

    Cool. :)

    GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
    BBSing although it's not like it once was.

    Another two very useful packages. :)

    The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making available lots of OS/2 stuff.

    That would be interesting.

    If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with all the usual stuff.

    Might take you up on that. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 17:03:33
    That's one I was thinking of. The other I haven't been able to log into for years because I forgot the password but my user account hasn't been deleted since the late 90's.. ;)

    Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago...so
    don't feel bad. ;)

    Netmail or email me (agianson@gmail.com) and we'll get the link setup.

    Have sent out an email for you...along with what happened today. Funny thing...none of this would've happened if they had asked me or not forced me
    & let me not do the complete shift doing what I used to do.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 17:08:06
    started using FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted spac & fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an
    FAT32 only has 4k clusters, which would mean a saving of up to 60k per message!

    They were using DOS with the software basically using an ANSI screen (like
    many of our boards) to run the stations & do the time-shifting. Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.

    idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the tim or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.
    That's always a hassle.

    Since the systems took a high dollar sound card...it was hard to run any
    tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound card in for
    the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

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  • From jokker@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 21:28:42
    running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were alway terrified that database would get corrupted.
    With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at

    I seem to remember reading something about that back in the day. Have a feeling it was a solution for a problem which came too late.

    Ah yes Hudson used smaller datatypes and would run out as harddrives and
    echoes got bigger and more numerous. Yeah Goldbase increases quite a bit over Hudson for sure. I only know of QuickBBS ever using it, and I know this since
    I recently got a QuickBBS system up and running and using Goldbase. However it's very limiting to what tools you can use with it since it was such a
    flash in the pan at the end of the peak of BBS. I think FMAIL is about your only modern mail tosser that works with it. I tried an older one but it has problems with Y2K so FMAIL it is.

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  • From jokker@21:4/154 to Al on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 21:30:12
    There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.


    A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever happen to it though.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to jokker on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 19:28:26
    Ah yes Hudson used smaller datatypes and would run out as harddrives and echoes got bigger and more numerous. Yeah Goldbase increases quite a bit over Hudson for sure. I only know of QuickBBS ever using it, and I know this since I recently got a QuickBBS system up and running and using Goldbase. However it's very limiting to what tools you can use with it

    I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

    think FMAIL is about your only modern mail tosser that works with it. I tried an older one but it has problems with Y2K so FMAIL it is.

    Haven't heard of it...but I still can't believe how much change happened from all those years ago.

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Jokker on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 02:25:24
    On 25 Feb 20 21:30:12, Jokker said the following to Al:

    There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish a Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a coup of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.


    A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever happen to it though.

    I thought Adept split off into two seperate codebases... Orion comes to mind.

    Atreyu

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 02:25:59
    On 25 Feb 20 19:28:26, Phoobar said the following to Jokker:

    I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

    Searchlight uses its own proprietary message format and a utility to move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

    Atreyu

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 21:06:11
    On 25 Feb 2020 at 05:03p, Phoobar pondered and said...

    Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago...so don't feel bad. ;)

    If it helps I can't remember mine sometimes ;-p

    I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to so next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want that.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Atreyu on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 21:09:07
    On 26 Feb 2020 at 02:25a, Atreyu pondered and said...

    move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

    I have fond memories of renemail... I think that was the name.

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Avon on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 03:14:25
    On 26 Feb 20 21:09:07, Avon said the following to Atreyu:

    move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

    I have fond memories of renemail... I think that was the name.

    I had to almost rewrite it here as it was such a buggy piece of crap.

    Atreyu

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 19:42:00
    On 02-25-20 17:08, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    They were using DOS with the software basically using an ANSI screen
    (like many of our boards) to run the stations & do the time-shifting. Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the
    time of 20+ years ago.

    Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

    idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the tim or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.
    That's always a hassle.

    Since the systems took a high dollar sound card...it was hard to run
    any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound card
    in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar
    sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

    Indeed.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 20:17:00
    On 02-25-20 19:28, Phoobar wrote to jokker <=-

    I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

    RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced the pressure on the HMB.


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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 09:57:37

    GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
    BBSing although it's not like it once was.

    FleetStreet is open source too.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Phoobar on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:32:00
    Have sent out an email for you...along with what happened today.
    Funny thing...none of this would've happened if they had asked me
    or not forced me & let me not do the complete shift doing what I
    used to do.

    Yep, I got your email and replied. I have your node setup now, I think.
    We'll need to test that it's working as expected.

    Let me know if it needs work.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to jokker on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:34:02
    A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever
    happen to it though.

    I had a qick look at Adept years ago. From the user side it was just what
    you'd expect and on the system side it was an OS/2 PM app. Very nice.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Oli on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:37:17
    GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable
    OS for BBSing although it's not like it once was.

    FleetStreet is open source too.

    Another PM GUI app, also very nice.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Atreyu on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 14:14:01
    who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.
    Searchlight uses its own proprietary message format and a utility to
    move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

    Ah...wasn't sure...but I know in the Oklahoma City area...it had some big fanboys who loved it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Avon on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 14:16:53
    Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago.. don't feel bad. ;)
    If it helps I can't remember mine sometimes ;-p

    Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)

    BTW...you made me laugh. After yesterday...exactly what I needed to feel better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing through my mind.

    I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to so next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want that.

    Oh yeah! Fantastic!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 14:23:40
    Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.
    Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

    I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software you use.

    any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound ca in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.
    Indeed.

    The thing is if it had worked...we would've saved other companies from losing their HDD space to an antiquated file system. The big bug in the room may
    have been the company not wanting their software running on top of an open source project. Part of the same bug was if the software was being run on top of a license to only run with MS-DOS...that would've been bad.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 14:25:09
    I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson
    RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced
    the pressure on the HMB.

    I feel very old that I didn't realize that. That would've been sweet back in the day.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 14:30:38
    Yep, I got your email and replied. I have your node setup now, I think. We'll need to test that it's working as expected.
    Let me know if it needs work.. :)

    Got it & think I have it set up on my end with the information you sent.
    Kicked you out a netmail last night & will kick you out another to see if I have it set up right on my end.

    Thanks!

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:29:24
    On 26 Feb 2020 at 02:16p, Phoobar pondered and said...

    Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)

    If you go first I'll follow you... then we can both get lost together :)

    BTW...you made me laugh. After yesterday...exactly what I needed to feel better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing through
    my mind.

    Glad I could help, yeah work can be a pain sometimes so I totally get where you're coming from there.

    I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want tha

    Oh yeah! Fantastic!

    OK doing this now.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 27, 2020 14:31:00
    On 02-26-20 14:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.
    Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

    I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software you use.

    Yeah, but without reference to the actual file size vs cluster size, it's a bit less meaningful. Sure, we know there's going to be considerable "slack space" (as it was termed back in the day), but how serious that issue depends on the number of files on disk and the average percentage of the file's last cluster used. A *.MSG messagebase represents a worst case example - numerous tiny files, which waste truckloads of diskspace. But of course, that's only one of many possible examples.

    any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound ca in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.
    Indeed.

    The thing is if it had worked...we would've saved other companies from losing their HDD space to an antiquated file system. The big bug in the

    Assuming FreeDOS used a more efficient filesystem (e.g. FAT32), and/or the VM was capable of not writing the wasted slack space to the physical disk. Only one way to find out for sure. :)

    room may have been the company not wanting their software running on
    top of an open source project. Part of the same bug was if the software was being run on top of a license to only run with MS-DOS...that
    would've been bad.

    Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 27, 2020 14:34:00
    On 02-26-20 14:25, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson
    RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced
    the pressure on the HMB.

    I feel very old that I didn't realize that. That would've been sweet
    back in the day.

    Yes, JAM was a real breath of fresh air. I've blown up many incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen, like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:37:07
    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your

    Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part).

    To think we've hit 2GB per base limit when we used to have 16MB for all
    message bases back in the earlier 90s!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Avon on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 22:04:04
    Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)
    If you go first I'll follow you... then we can both get lost together :)

    Very brave man! Do I provide the gas mask or do you have one of your own. ;)

    better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing throu my mind.
    Glad I could help, yeah work can be a pain sometimes so I totally get where you're coming from there.

    Feeling better with the time I had off today. Just hope the same BS doesn't happen tomorrow.

    next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you wan
    Oh yeah! Fantastic!
    OK doing this now.

    Will be looking there on Friday or tomorrow evening. Be watching another hour of Spooks on BritBox.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 22:09:33
    I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software yo use.
    Yeah, but without reference to the actual file size vs cluster size,
    it's a bit less meaningful. Sure, we know there's going to be considerable "slack space" (as it was termed back in the day), but how serious that issue depends on the number of files on disk and the
    average percentage of the file's last cluster used. A *.MSG messagebase

    Much of my work was to daily going thru each of the drives to clear out old
    MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.

    Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.

    Tried to do that as well at the station. Was a little harder to do 20 or so years ago...but today...it's almost a no-brainer.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 22:11:49
    being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had to find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's PS couldn't
    run both.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Thursday, February 27, 2020 21:38:00
    On 02-27-20 11:37, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your

    Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the
    limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had
    one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part).

    Haha, that's a seriously huge JAM base! Especially since the majority of BBS messages are quite small.

    To think we've hit 2GB per base limit when we used to have 16MB for all message bases back in the earlier 90s!

    Yep, it's definitely a major change!


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 27, 2020 21:39:00
    On 02-26-20 22:09, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Much of my work was to daily going thru each of the drives to clear out old MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.

    At least those files were large, so less slack space. But fragmentation would have been a big issue.

    Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.

    Tried to do that as well at the station. Was a little harder to do 20
    or so years ago...but today...it's almost a no-brainer.

    I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew how to drive it. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, February 27, 2020 21:41:00
    On 02-26-20 22:11, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had to find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's PS couldn't run both.

    At least you couldn't blow up a Hudson messagebase on it. :D

    My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.


    ... As easy as 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841
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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Thursday, February 27, 2020 18:08:52
    Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part

    Haha, that's a seriously huge JAM base! Especially since the majority
    of BBS messages are quite small.

    This particular person was pulling in Usenet newsgroups and had insane number of messages per base, in the 6-digit range. I am guessing they were not filtering binary posts too but who knows.

    I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to up it
    to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to g00r00 on Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:04:10
    I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to
    up it to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

    It's 18446.74 Petabytes. Really big.

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  • From Havok@21:4/119 to g00r00 on Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:18:32
    I have a request if you think it could be done adding a command like (D3)
    (DD) and so on. To change the drop file from unix to DOS and maybe even sends
    it to dosemu or dosbox what do you think?

    Instead of all this that I came up with just to be able to make more then
    one node to work at the same time.

    Thanks.....

    First I want to thanks, Jim Howarth and also Andrew Pamment being I use some of both of their
    instructions without these two men I would still be having sleepless nights try ng to figure
    out dosemu & doors.

    My autoexec.bat (in /home/username/.dosemu/drive_c/)

    @echo off
    break=off
    path z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu
    set HELPPATH=z:\help
    set TEMP=c:\tmp
    prompt $P$G
    lredir del d: > nul
    lredir d: linux\fs/home/username/mystic/doors
    unix -e

    You want a dosemu.conf for calling the door, I use the same one for calling all my dos doors.

    This is my dosemu.conf (in /home/username/mystic/doors/)

    $_cpu = "80486"
    $_cpu_emu = "vm86"
    $_external_char_set = "utf8"
    $_internal_char_set = "cp437"
    $_term_updfreq = (8)
    $_layout = "us"
    $_rawkeyboard = (0)
    $_com1 = "virtual"

    Create a batch file that we will use to launch doorMUD from DOS.

    @echo off
    D:
    CD \BNU
    BNU /L0=11520
    CD \DMUD
    dmud /N%1 /DD:\TEMP%1
    BNU /U
    D:
    CD \TEMP%1
    DEL DOOR.SYS
    exitemu

    The script for running doorMUD, dmud.sh

    #!/bin/bash
    trap '' 2

    todos < /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SYS > /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SY1
    mv /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SY1 /home/bbs/mystic/doors/temp$1/DOOR.SYS NODE=$1

    /usr/bin/dosemu -quiet -f /home/username/mystic/doors/dosemu.conf -I "dosbanner 0" -E "D:\DMUD\DMUD.BAT ${NODE}" 2>/dev/null

    trap 2

    Adding the door to Mystic door menu

    (DD) Exec external program

    Data: /home/username/mystic/bash/dmud.sh %3
    Folder can be whatever name you want.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, February 27, 2020 08:32:19
    old MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.
    At least those files were large, so less slack space. But fragmentation would have been a big issue.

    Oh yeah! We had 1 box which was networked which was used as a recorder. That was the worst one & never was able to totally defrag it from having been left alone for years before I got to it.

    I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew
    how to drive it. :)

    Never had that chance...but we did get a mail server I recommended set up...along with using shoutcast to stream the signal to repeaters off sight.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, February 27, 2020 08:34:44
    1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's couldn't run both.
    At least you couldn't blow up a Hudson messagebase on it. :D

    True. Remember when Squish could be used on Telegard/Renegade...that blew my mind away.

    My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.

    To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my media
    server for about $150 US. ;)

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Havok on Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:19:28
    I have a request if you think it could be done adding a command like
    (D3) (DD) and so on. To change the drop file from unix to DOS and maybe even sends it to dosemu or dosbox what do you think?

    You can do this with the /DOS argument. For example, I launch dmud with:

    Menu Command: DD
    Args:
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "/doors/dmud/runmud.bat" %N /DOS

    Note that the above args are all in one line and that your dosemu.conf shouldn't have the COM1 = virtual setting. This makes doing local testing of things much easier.

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  • From Havok@21:4/119 to ryan on Thursday, February 27, 2020 16:48:49
    You can do this with the /DOS argument. For example, I launch dmud with:

    Menu Command: DD
    Args:
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "/doors/dmud/runmud.bat" %N /DOS


    I tried that one a couple of times but ran into trouble with some multi
    player game with two or more players in the door.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Friday, February 28, 2020 09:42:00
    On 02-27-20 18:08, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    This particular person was pulling in Usenet newsgroups and had insane number of messages per base, in the 6-digit range. I am guessing they were not filtering binary posts too but who knows.

    Yeah I can see how he hit 2 GB, even without binaries. A million messages would only have to average 2kB each, which isn't hard with Internet headers intact.

    I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to
    up it to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

    f'ing huge! :D I think that will allow JAM to handle serious message archiving. Storage would be the biggest issue after that spec is implemented. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, February 28, 2020 09:48:00
    On 02-27-20 08:32, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Oh yeah! We had 1 box which was networked which was used as a recorder. That was the worst one & never was able to totally defrag it from
    having been left alone for years before I got to it.

    Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

    I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew
    how to drive it. :)

    Never had that chance...but we did get a mail server I recommended set up...along with using shoutcast to stream the signal to repeaters off sight.

    By the end of 1998, I had the following running on Linux in the office:

    Web server, email gateway (forwarded to internal Exchange server), firewall/true DMZ with screening router and NAT router (both Linux boxes), dialin server for home workers and a branch office, VPN to the Sydney office. All those key systems ran Linux. Sydney also had its own firewall/DMZ setup running Linux. DNS was also hosted in house on the Linux boxes.

    The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it, and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, February 28, 2020 09:49:00
    On 02-27-20 08:34, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    True. Remember when Squish could be used on Telegard/Renegade...that
    blew my mind away.

    Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

    My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.

    To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my media server for about $150 US. ;)

    Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Havok on Thursday, February 27, 2020 15:39:39
    I tried that one a couple of times but ran into trouble with some multi player game with two or more players in the door.

    I don't see how any of what you mentioned in your other post would address this...

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, February 28, 2020 23:04:12
    having been left alone for years before I got to it.
    Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

    In 2010...5 years after I left there...a print company accidentally burned
    the strip mall to the ground. Don't know what they did after that other than rent more space in a big mall with tons of room. Probably still there.

    The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it,
    and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.

    At the time...I was considering Linux or NT 4 to get certified in. Because I was able to find plenty of material/classes to get me through NT...chose that.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, February 28, 2020 23:10:07
    Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

    Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

    To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my med server for about $150 US. ;)
    Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)

    Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that much memory. Will be reloading 10 next weekend when I get some free time to spend putting it back together.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 29, 2020 19:18:00
    On 02-28-20 23:04, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    having been left alone for years before I got to it.
    Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

    In 2010...5 years after I left there...a print company accidentally
    burned the strip mall to the ground. Don't know what they did after
    that other than rent more space in a big mall with tons of room.
    Probably still there.

    Oops! :D

    The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it,
    and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.

    At the time...I was considering Linux or NT 4 to get certified in.
    Because I was able to find plenty of material/classes to get me through NT...chose that.

    I got NT4, and later, Windows 2000 certification, because we needed MCPs onsite to be a MCSP.

    Another thing I did was setup an old 486 with Hylafax on Linux, fax modem and a spare laser printer as a plain paper fax receiver at a time when plain paper faxes were expensive. Conventional fax paper was expensive for the large volume of faxes that we were receiving at the time. The result was a reliable machine for incoming faxes that was cheap to run, and could handle a very high volume of faxes.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, February 29, 2020 19:20:00
    On 02-28-20 23:10, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

    Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

    Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

    To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my med server for about $150 US. ;)
    Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)

    Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB
    sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that much memory. Will be reloading 10 next weekend when I get some free time to spend putting it back together.

    Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, February 29, 2020 19:13:39
    Probably still there.
    Oops! :D

    Think it was more like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)

    when plain paper faxes were expensive. Conventional fax paper was expensive for the large volume of faxes that we were receiving at the time. The result was a reliable machine for incoming faxes that was
    cheap to run, and could handle a very high volume of faxes.

    Remember getting the AP newsfeed which come with a teletype & having to use tractor feed paper. Collected a ton of this & used it to print off BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, February 29, 2020 19:17:05
    Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.
    Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

    Oh yeah. You wouldn't believe how big of an improvement.

    Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that mu
    Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)

    Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to be reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 01, 2020 20:19:00
    On 02-29-20 19:13, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Probably still there.
    Oops! :D

    Think it was more like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)

    Reference lost on me, I rarely have time to watch random vids.

    Remember getting the AP newsfeed which come with a teletype & having to use tractor feed paper. Collected a ton of this & used it to print off
    BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.


    Ahh, tractor feed. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 01, 2020 20:59:00
    On 02-29-20 19:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.
    Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

    Oh yeah. You wouldn't believe how big of an improvement.

    I can imagine!

    Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that mu
    Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)

    Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland
    area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to be reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.

    Cool, enjoy. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 01, 2020 21:33:20
    Think it was more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)
    Reference lost on me, I rarely have time to watch random vids.

    ;) Just got off a stint which had me up at 3:30 AM when my Google Home Mini went off for me to get up to get to work by 5:30. When it went off...thought
    a fire alarm was going off & asked it where the fire was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funny it I'd asked it if I'd reached
    88 MPH yet.

    BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.

    Ahh, tractor feed. :)

    Started off taking my term papers over to a friend in the dorm with a
    Commodore printer...which was tractor feed. Add to that...I had a job in the computer lab which had me changing paper/ribbons on 1 of those giant monsters running green/white tractor feed paper. Not even sure if we could find
    tractor feed paper anymore.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 01, 2020 21:35:37
    Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with th
    Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.
    Cool, enjoy. :)

    Just got finished putting it in & having to reposition my processor tower cooler the other direction for the memory to fit. Didn't have to reload
    Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I get ArcaOS
    running on the new system.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 02, 2020 19:22:00
    On 03-01-20 21:33, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    ;) Just got off a stint which had me up at 3:30 AM when my Google Home Mini went off for me to get up to get to work by 5:30. When it went off...thought a fire alarm was going off & asked it where the fire was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funny
    it I'd asked it if I'd reached 88 MPH yet.

    Oh dear. :) And yes, 88 mph would have been funny. :D You couldn't be too sure _when_ you ended up! :D

    Started off taking my term papers over to a friend in the dorm with a Commodore printer...which was tractor feed. Add to that...I had a job
    in the computer lab which had me changing paper/ribbons on 1 of those giant monsters running green/white tractor feed paper. Not even sure if
    we could find tractor feed paper anymore.

    I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 02, 2020 19:25:00
    On 03-01-20 21:35, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Just got finished putting it in & having to reposition my processor
    tower cooler the other direction for the memory to fit. Didn't have to reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I get ArcaOS running on the new system.

    Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 08:21:19
    was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funn it I'd asked it if I'd reached 88 MPH yet.
    Oh dear. :) And yes, 88 mph would have been funny. :D You couldn't be too sure _when_ you ended up! :D

    1 thing...would've had to try to call into work to not get a no call/no show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no
    reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

    I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

    Was pricey before...but now...

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 08:23:13
    reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I ge ArcaOS running on the new system.
    Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

    Worked on it last night & got it to go to the desktop wallpaper...but no further. Got some more work to do...but from what I've seen...brings back to old days of solving issues.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:09:00
    On 03-03-20 08:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    1 thing...would've had to try to call into work to not get a no call/no show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I
    find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

    You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

    I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

    Was pricey before...but now...

    You found a supplier? ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:09:00
    On 03-03-20 08:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I ge ArcaOS running on the new system.
    Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

    Worked on it last night & got it to go to the desktop wallpaper...but
    no further. Got some more work to do...but from what I've seen...brings back to old days of solving issues.

    Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 18:01:21
    show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)
    You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

    Small item to deal with. ;)

    I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.
    Was pricey before...but now...
    You found a supplier? ;)

    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 18:02:25


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 18:05:12
    Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. W be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.
    Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year.

    Would be nice if several of us started running boards under ArcaOS. Gonna
    spend some more time this evening trying to get it setup. Even ended up
    buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs into to keep
    them in 1 place & safe.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 21:13:52
    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

    Please don't become the millionaire. I beg of you.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 21:14:10


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    Well said. Couldn't have put it better myself.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 13:15:00
    On 03-03-20 18:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)
    You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

    Small item to deal with. ;)

    And a time lord to wield it. :D

    I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.
    Was pricey before...but now...
    You found a supplier? ;)

    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

    Haha good one. :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 13:16:00
    On 03-03-20 18:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-



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    You had a lot to say on this one. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 13:24:00
    On 03-03-20 18:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. W be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.
    Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year.

    Would be nice if several of us started running boards under ArcaOS.
    Gonna spend some more time this evening trying to get it setup. Even
    ended up buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs
    into to keep them in 1 place & safe.

    That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:13:34
    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)
    Please don't become the millionaire. I beg of you.

    One of the things I learned in my divorce is the difference between AND/OR.
    As for this brat...don't care how much money it claims to have...will never become it. On the other hand...I love being here in all the echoes & don't
    ever want to be on any twit list. I do have some human DNA...like cats/dogs...but when it kicks either one...that's how it's the person it is now.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:15:37
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    Well said. Couldn't have put it better myself.

    Am extremely proud of every network this board is a member of & talk about it with co-workers & customers.

    Funny...I tried the @RANDOM tag on the tagline. Didn't work...so I switched
    it back to a more funny one.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:19:31
    Small item to deal with. ;)
    And a time lord to wield it. :D

    The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's not out there. ;)

    Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox & the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.

    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)
    Haha good one. :D

    Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business to Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:20:05
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    You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

    Always have to have the last word. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:24:54
    ended up buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs into to keep them in 1 place & safe.
    That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it
    up. :)

    Was over on the OS/2 echo this evening & it was mentioned that eventually
    there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.

    Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a native version. Not sure if it will happen...but if it does...will look at it...especially if it runs under Mint.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 23:52:20
    Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox &
    the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect
    from being killed by an environmental group.

    That is one of my top 10 favorite shows. I have rewatched every episode at least 3 times.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 21:17:05
    Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox
    That is one of my top 10 favorite shows. I have rewatched every episode
    at least 3 times.

    2nd time watching it here. Wished they were running the new version with Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.

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  • From apam@21:1/126.1 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 15:59:54
    That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)


    I'd be in on that... I think EleBBS runs ok on eComStation

    Andrew

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 02:30:52
    2nd time watching it here. Wished they were running the new version with Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.

    I really should get a BritBox sub.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 17:37:00
    On 03-03-20 20:19, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Small item to deal with. ;)
    And a time lord to wield it. :D

    The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's not out there. ;)

    Yep. :)

    Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox &
    the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect
    from being killed by an environmental group.

    Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

    Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)
    Haha good one. :D

    Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business to Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

    Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 17:38:00
    On 03-03-20 20:20, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

    Always have to have the last word. ;)

    Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 17:40:00
    On 03-03-20 20:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Was over on the OS/2 echo this evening & it was mentioned that
    eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version
    1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's

    Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

    Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2.
    It looks great & runs pretty good.

    Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

    Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a native version. Not sure if it will happen...but if it does...will look
    at it...especially if it runs under Mint.

    I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to apam on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 17:53:00
    On 03-04-20 15:59, apam wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)


    I'd be in on that... I think EleBBS runs ok on eComStation

    Cool, quite a few choices. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:14:26
    Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.
    I really should get a BritBox sub.

    The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode of the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For instance...wanted to watch the last episode of the 1st Doctor with the Cybermen...but it was missing. Wanted to watch the one where the 2nd meets Jaime...missing. Believe there are more missing episodes for the 2nd than the first.

    On the other hand...Acorn has stuff from all over the world...but had to pick
    1 & went with Classic Doctor Who.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:17:27
    The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's n out there. ;)
    Yep. :)

    You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while her
    husband is the 10th.

    the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.
    Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

    Very much so.

    Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.
    Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)

    It's on the opposite side away from China...so I should be good to go. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:18:33
    fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.
    You had a lot to say on this one. ;)
    Always have to have the last word. ;)
    Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:20:24
    eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's
    Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

    Mystic.

    Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.
    Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

    There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

    Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a
    I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)

    Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking
    in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:22:02
    The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode of
    the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For instance...wanted to watch the last episode of the 1st Doctor with the Cybermen...but it was missing. Wanted to watch the one where the 2nd
    meets Jaime...missing. Believe there are more missing episodes for the
    2nd than the first.

    I know that the BBC is missing a lot of the original episodes. Seem that in
    the 80s they decided to re-use the stock that those episodes were on. I know they sent letters to all of the affiliate TV networks across the world who showed Dr Who back in the day hoping that they still had copies. They did recoup some of the lost ones but there are still a few missing.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 10:14:00
    On 03-04-20 09:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's n out there. ;)
    Yep. :)

    You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while her husband is the 10th.

    Is that incestuous or what? ;)

    the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.
    Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

    Very much so.

    Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

    Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.
    Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)

    It's on the opposite side away from China...so I should be good to go.
    ;)

    Good move. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 10:15:00
    On 03-04-20 09:18, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.
    You had a lot to say on this one. ;)
    Always have to have the last word. ;)
    Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)


    Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 10:16:00
    On 03-04-20 09:20, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's
    Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

    Mystic.

    Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

    Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.
    Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

    There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

    Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

    Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a
    I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)

    Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

    You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 18:32:49
    The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode o the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For
    I know that the BBC is missing a lot of the original episodes. Seem that in the 80s they decided to re-use the stock that those episodes were on.

    They did find some in places like Argentina & such.

    The main thing I'm nagging about it is I have seen some of these episodes...such as the final one with the 2nd Doctor where he's forced to regenerate as a punishment. Nothing on BritBox's site about this...other than check back later. Would like to know if these episodes are the ones they
    erased or holding back on.

    I know they sent letters to all of the affiliate TV networks across the world who showed Dr Who back in the day hoping that they still had
    copies. They did recoup some of the lost ones but there are still a few

    Am on the 5th season of MI5/Spooks. They don't have any of the Richard
    Armitage episodes showing or the last episodes where Ruth gets killed. You would think owning the shows...they could put them all up there. On the other hand...have heard some of the early Vera episodes are not available either.

    Even with my nagging...being able to watch British TV makes me feel less like Homer Simpson & one of the Elders of the Internet who wanted to make sure
    Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetized the Internet. ;)

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 21:37:10
    Even with my nagging...being able to watch British TV makes me feel less like Homer Simpson & one of the Elders of the Internet who wanted to
    make sure Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetized the Internet. ;)

    Funny, most days I feel like Richmond.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 18:41:24
    You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while h husband is the 10th.
    Is that incestuous or what? ;)

    Not even going there...since I could dig that hole faster than either of us
    can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for at work since
    my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

    On a serious note...was thinking about what happened with my last girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work. Damn the past being
    so vivid from that era!

    Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)
    Very much so.
    Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

    As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 18:42:11
    Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)
    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)
    Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

    You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 18:51:24
    Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...
    Mystic.
    Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

    You better believe it. Many of the parts we're used to are not there. Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not the same software.

    There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.
    Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

    Personally...as long as the BBS is 2K compliant...doesn't really bother me.
    Add in all the other stuff we now have to make it FDN functional...not that
    bad of a choice at all. We get lucky...these other parts may be more
    up-to-date than most of the other software being used.

    Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.
    You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)

    It's not Linux...but here's something I tried to use before using Mystic: https://tinyurl.com/tks5pa9 . Now...here's something for Linux: https://tinyurl.com/vknrlnd . It's a start of many links I have when I was doing research.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 18:57:54
    make sure Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetiz the Internet. ;)
    Funny, most days I feel like Richmond.

    Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem...as
    long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 22:01:32
    Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem...as long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)

    Cradle of Filth!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 20:58:27
    Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem. long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)
    Cradle of Filth!

    You got me good. Almost blew up my monitor when I was drinking a soda & saw that. I was not expecting that.

    Just make sure you have daddy there with his mother & wear the top hat with
    the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 00:17:40
    You got me good. Almost blew up my monitor when I was drinking a soda & Just make sure you have daddy there with his mother & wear the top hat with the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.

    Easily one of the funniest TV shows ever made. It should be required watching for any sysop who joins SciNet.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 21:04:00
    On 03-04-20 18:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Is that incestuous or what? ;)

    Not even going there...since I could dig that hole faster than either
    of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for at work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

    Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

    On a serious note...was thinking about what happened with my last girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work.
    Damn the past being so vivid from that era!

    Hmm, bummer about that. :(

    Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

    As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them.
    ;)

    :)



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 21:05:00
    On 03-04-20 18:42, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)
    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)
    Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

    You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

    Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 05, 2020 21:11:00
    On 03-04-20 18:51, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...
    Mystic.
    Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

    You better believe it. Many of the parts we're used to are not there.
    Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not the same software.

    I bet, Mystic has certainly come a long way even since 1.12 (before the
    lphas).

    There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.
    Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

    Personally...as long as the BBS is 2K compliant...doesn't really bother me. Add in all the other stuff we now have to make it FDN
    functional...not that bad of a choice at all. We get lucky...these
    other parts may be more up-to-date than most of the other software
    being used.

    Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

    Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.
    You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)

    It's not Linux...but here's something I tried to use before using
    Mystic: https://tinyurl.com/tks5pa9 . Now...here's something for Linux: https://tinyurl.com/vknrlnd . It's a start of many links I have when I
    was doing research.

    You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Thursday, March 05, 2020 07:51:48
    with the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.
    Easily one of the funniest TV shows ever made. It should be required watching for any sysop who joins SciNet.

    Have the whole run on my phone & watch it over & over on my lunch break.
    Don't care what type of day I've had...just have to get hold of the Joker
    from Friendface & then get Renholm to go out with her or think she's from
    Iran. Getting someone to kiss me around my cleftal horizon is just icing on
    the cake.

    BTW...was reading something a while ago that Linahan is going to be bring the show back. Haven't heard anything more than that...but he promised the magic will be there again.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 05, 2020 07:59:19
    of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.
    Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

    If only I would be that lucky!

    girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work. Damn the past being so vivid from that era!
    Hmm, bummer about that. :(

    Was expecting all my meds in the mail yesterday & they didn't arrive...so wasn't able to take 1. Had a very vivid dream I was out in the California desert at some of the truck stops on the highway. Jack Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)

    As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them ;)

    The idiot should replace them with pink/rainbow colored ones. Then make sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

    Yes...you guys gave the world one of the funniest movies in existence. If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same
    costume. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 05, 2020 08:00:10
    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)
    Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)
    You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)
    Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P

    Going back to the 80's...It's in the Way That You Use It!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 05, 2020 08:02:59
    Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not t same software.
    I bet, Mystic has certainly come a long way even since 1.12 (before the lphas).

    Very true.

    Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was 2014!
    Will be looking more closely at it.

    You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)

    True...used to run it & loved it. On the other hand...there are several OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined to run.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 07, 2020 20:59:00
    On 03-05-20 07:59, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.
    Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

    If only I would be that lucky!

    I think it already is going south rather quickly. There's a heap of lines there. ;)

    Was expecting all my meds in the mail yesterday & they didn't
    arrive...so wasn't able to take 1. Had a very vivid dream I was out in
    the California desert at some of the truck stops on the highway. Jack Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too
    young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)

    Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good selection in your head! ;)

    As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them ;)

    The idiot should replace them with pink/rainbow colored ones. Then make sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

    Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

    Yes...you guys gave the world one of the funniest movies in existence.
    If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing
    the same costume. ;)

    Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 07, 2020 20:59:00
    On 03-05-20 08:00, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)
    Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)
    You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)
    Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P

    Going back to the 80's...It's in the Way That You Use It!

    Exactly! :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 07, 2020 21:01:00
    On 03-05-20 08:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was
    2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

    Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

    You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)

    True...used to run it & loved it. On the other hand...there are several OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined to run.

    My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)


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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 07, 2020 17:08:17
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
    was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

    Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

    I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

    AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable (that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

    Is there another version?

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  • From The Millionaire@21:4/106.2 to Oli on Saturday, March 07, 2020 12:56:17
    Re: Lora BBS (was: New BBS in the works.)
    By: Oli to Vk3jed on Sat Mar 07 2020 05:08 pm

    On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
    was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

    Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

    I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

    AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable
    (that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

    Is there another version?

    lora232 i think was his last version was it not?

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 07, 2020 12:24:59
    Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :
    If only I would be that lucky!
    I think it already is going south rather quickly. There's a heap of
    lines there. ;)

    Remember I was working for the stations @ Xmas time back in '96. Stood
    outside of a big chain drug store in Arizona ringing a bell. Talk about
    lines. Never say so many shopping carts filled up with booze (sometimes
    pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going to
    ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)

    Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)
    Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good
    selection in your head! ;)

    It was ultra realistic. Haven't had a dream like that in a while. The next
    day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

    sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)
    Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

    Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession for the Outback. ;)

    If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same costume. ;)
    Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.

    Know it's a chick flick...but loved Muriel's Wedding. Even ended up with a
    copy of Mad Max I was able to get the "native" language dialog to
    play...rather than the BS one they put on it for the US...because "we" are
    too stupid to understand anything spoken without a Southern accent. You look
    on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is on there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 07, 2020 12:32:25
    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.
    Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2
    & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

    OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined t run.
    My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)

    Had a good buddy who loved it back in the day. In terms of running RA...there is EleBBS which may/may not be updated. The file names are looking the same
    for every version as the OS/2 version. From what I was reading...that would
    be the closest we can get.

    BTW...found out how to open the case of the ThinkCentre. Just a laptop MB
    with a micro-desktop case. Replaced the 8 GB SSD with a 1 TB laptop drive I
    had previously played around with RetroPie on. Took forever to get ArcaOS to format/load the drive...but have done it. Next...may get an 8 GB stick of memory for $30 US to add to the Samsung stick already in there. Same memory & with 2 slots...Arca should run anything else I have into the ground.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 08, 2020 07:39:07
    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

    As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

    Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to G00r00 on Saturday, March 07, 2020 20:19:00
    g00r00 wrote to Phoobar <=-

    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

    As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported
    to ArcaOS.

    I saw this over on Fido :)

    Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

    Yeah, would be nice if you did :)


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Robert Wolfe on Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:23:04
    As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

    I saw this over on Fido :)

    It'd be a lot of work for a small reward (like 1 or 2 people would probably play with it a bit and no one would use it). At least thats my assumption.

    I have install.exe, mplc.exe, mide.exe, and mystic.exe all compiling now although only install.exe and mplc.exe actually work.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Sunday, March 08, 2020 16:52:00
    On 03-07-20 17:08, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
    was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

    Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

    I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

    Ahh, OK.

    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
    https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

    AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable (that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

    Is there another version?

    I hadn't heard of Lora, so no idea.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 08, 2020 16:57:00
    On 03-07-20 12:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Remember I was working for the stations @ Xmas time back in '96. Stood outside of a big chain drug store in Arizona ringing a bell. Talk about lines. Never say so many shopping carts filled up with booze (sometimes pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going to ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)

    Sounds like olver here. ;)

    Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good
    selection in your head! ;)

    It was ultra realistic. Haven't had a dream like that in a while. The
    next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb
    like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

    Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

    sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)
    Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

    Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession
    for the Outback. ;)

    Umm, pass. :P

    If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same costume. ;)
    Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.

    Know it's a chick flick...but loved Muriel's Wedding. Even ended up

    Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

    with a copy of Mad Max I was able to get the "native" language dialog
    to play...rather than the BS one they put on it for the US...because
    "we" are too stupid to understand anything spoken without a Southern accent. You look on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is on there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.

    Oh dear, it's THAT bad over there? Obviously, it's a non issue here, being a locally produced movie. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 08, 2020 17:00:00
    On 03-07-20 12:32, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07
    for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a
    totally different beast than what is current.

    And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

    OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined t run.
    My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)

    Had a good buddy who loved it back in the day. In terms of running RA...there is EleBBS which may/may not be updated. The file names are looking the same for every version as the OS/2 version. From what I was reading...that would be the closest we can get.

    I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking a
    ook.

    BTW...found out how to open the case of the ThinkCentre. Just a laptop
    MB with a micro-desktop case. Replaced the 8 GB SSD with a 1 TB laptop drive I had previously played around with RetroPie on. Took forever to
    get ArcaOS to format/load the drive...but have done it. Next...may get
    an 8 GB stick of memory for $30 US to add to the Samsung stick already
    in there. Same memory & with 2 slots...Arca should run anything else I have into the ground.

    That'll be a nice setup! :)


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 08, 2020 15:18:45
    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

    And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

    I just spent a lot of hours on it (the past 7 hours or so) and its nowhere near functional, but I can open the configuration and do local logins to the BBS now. When I first got the BBS to compile just about nothing worked, so its been a long road so far.

    But now at least from a local login most of the BBS functions work except Mystic Python (although MPL is fine) and the msg/file index readers. I think I have everything else going though including all of the multinode stuff.

    Nodespy compiles now too but I haven't even bothered trying that yet.

    The hardest parts remain. Besides the general debugging I have to get all of the server, threading, local I/O, SSL and socket code all working in OS2. This isn't small task and will take a lot of research of API and trial and error,
    so it may be something I never finish. But for the most part "MIS" is the
    only thing remaining to port and get working.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 20:09:00
    On 03-08-20 15:18, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I just spent a lot of hours on it (the past 7 hours or so) and its
    nowhere near functional, but I can open the configuration and do local logins to the BBS now. When I first got the BBS to compile just about nothing worked, so its been a long road so far.

    I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.
    Nodespy compiles now too but I haven't even bothered trying that yet.

    The hardest parts remain. Besides the general debugging I have to get
    all of the server, threading, local I/O, SSL and socket code all
    working in OS2. This isn't small task and will take a lot of research
    of API and trial and error, so it may be something I never finish. But for the most part "MIS" is the only thing remaining to port and get working.

    The only bit, but the hardest. :) Hopefully I'll be in a position to test soon, but if it never happens, no biggie.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to G00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:06:00
    g00r00 wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

    I saw this over on Fido :)

    It'd be a lot of work for a small reward (like 1 or 2 people would probably play with it a bit and no one would use it). At least thats
    my assumption.

    I have install.exe, mplc.exe, mide.exe, and mystic.exe all compiling
    now although only install.exe and mplc.exe actually work.

    Well, if you would like someone to test it all, I would be willing to
    help out in that endeavor.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to G00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 13:51:00
    g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    But now at least from a local login most of the BBS functions work
    except Mystic Python (although MPL is fine) and the msg/file index readers. I think I have everything else going though including all of
    the multinode stuff.

    Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
    one is available.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 08, 2020 13:52:00
    Vk3jed wrote to g00r00 <=-

    I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.

    Same here!

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Robert Wolfe on Sunday, March 08, 2020 16:31:50
    On 08 Mar 20 13:51:00, Robert Wolfe said the following to G00R00:

    Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
    one is available.

    Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

    Atreyu

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Atreyu on Sunday, March 08, 2020 17:47:08
    Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

    That was the best one yet.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Robert Wolfe on Monday, March 09, 2020 08:08:00
    On 03-08-20 13:52, Robert Wolfe wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to g00r00 <=-

    I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.

    Same here!

    And there looks like workable proxy options for the lack of IPv6 support in the OS/2 family.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Atreyu on Monday, March 09, 2020 08:37:00
    On 03-08-20 16:31, Atreyu wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    On 08 Mar 20 13:51:00, Robert Wolfe said the following to G00R00:

    Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
    one is available.

    Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

    Haha! :D


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 20:49:32
    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totall
    As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

    Work has been a bear lately. Boss loves me...since I do work myself silly
    many times while others mess around. Means I have a hard time staying awake
    to read/understand what's going on.

    Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

    That's great news!!! Sounds like you're pretty far along with it. Need any
    help with it...am more than happy to help you. One good thing is relearning OS/2 is bringing back the reasons why I fell in love with it back in the mid-90's.

    Just took out the 8 GB SSD drive out of the ThinkCentre & put in a 1 TB drive
    I had been playing around with RetroPie last year. Took forever to format/install ArcaOS...but it does run. I put an extra 8 GB memory on the board...it will fly. That means will have plenty of space for any/everything
    on there. Will use the SSD with the Pi Zero for other projects.

    Thanks again for the update.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 08, 2020 21:00:25
    pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going t ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)
    Sounds like olver here. ;)

    ;) That's if they can stand up or here in the Northern hemisphere not passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.

    next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.
    Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

    Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I usually do.

    BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones will allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.

    Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession for the Outback. ;)
    Umm, pass. :P

    ;)

    Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught
    a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

    Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves Sharon. Closest
    thing to it was How Not to Live Your Life from the BBC.

    accent. You look on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.
    Oh dear, it's THAT bad over there? Obviously, it's a non issue here, being a locally produced movie. :)

    Oh yeah! They did that before releasing it in the cinemas here. Another local one from South Africa that I saw many times before getting it on DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 08, 2020 21:05:48
    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07
    And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

    He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind on big news...since it seems like no matter how much I sleep...I'm still exhausted...so don't have as much time I would like.

    One good thing is my boss talked to me the past couple of days. Seems like
    they are going to be doing some cutting for those just there to p/u a
    paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up there compared to the gold brickers.

    I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking
    a ook.

    Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system right now.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Atreyu on Sunday, March 08, 2020 21:08:29
    Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
    one is available.
    Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 09, 2020 20:59:00
    On 03-08-20 21:00, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    ;) That's if they can stand up or here in the Northern hemisphere not passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the
    snow during the Middle Ages.

    Hrmm....

    next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.
    Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

    Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I
    usually do.

    Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

    BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones will allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.

    That sounds rather useful, actually! :)

    Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught
    a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

    Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was
    Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves
    Sharon. Closest thing to it was How Not to Live Your Life from the BBC.

    Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

    Oh yeah! They did that before releasing it in the cinemas here. Another local one from South Africa that I saw many times before getting it on
    DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog
    for it.

    Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 09, 2020 21:02:00
    On 03-08-20 21:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07
    And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

    He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind on big news...since it seems like no matter how much I sleep...I'm still exhausted...so don't have as much time I would like.

    Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

    One good thing is my boss talked to me the past couple of days. Seems
    like they are going to be doing some cutting for those just there to
    p/u a paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up there compared to the gold brickers.

    They're clearing out some of the dead wood? ;) Sounds good.

    I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking
    a ook.

    Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates
    from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system right now.

    Cool. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 09, 2020 21:18:00
    On 03-08-20 21:08, Phoobar wrote to Atreyu <=-

    Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

    Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 09, 2020 15:48:18
    passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.
    Hrmm....

    Just found out the most famous one was King Henry kneeling to Pope Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...but I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)

    Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)
    Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I usually do.
    Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

    Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor about it tomorrow.

    Have noticed the past few days...the woozy head hasn't been happening.

    BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones wil allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.
    That sounds rather useful, actually! :)

    It is because it keeps them together & out of harm's way. Am a firm believer
    in Murphy's Law. Got tons of them...since my state health care plan only
    allows me to get 30 days worth of meds at a time.

    Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves
    Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

    If I remember right...the character is dying & wants to get to Darwin to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him to die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it in the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.

    DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.
    Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/

    Welcome to American Exceptionalism!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 09, 2020 16:01:31
    He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind
    Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

    That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...no matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of the package.

    Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work
    sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time.

    p/u a paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up the compared to the gold brickers.
    They're clearing out some of the dead wood? ;) Sounds good.

    May eventually end up with a FT position. Gonna apply for it next time it
    comes up. Two of us are around the same age...with the rest of them in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do...as long as I get
    my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're seeing who does what.

    Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system rig now.
    Cool. :)

    They allow you to install it from DOS or Windows...but not exactly sure how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but
    their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 09, 2020 16:02:19
    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.
    Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

    Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 21:25:00
    On 03-09-20 15:48, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.
    Hrmm....

    Just found out the most famous one was King Henry kneeling to Pope
    Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...but
    I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)

    Have to ask the other half about that, he's the historian in this house. ;)

    Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

    Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was
    feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor about
    it tomorrow.

    Hmm OK, I'm still getting fragmented information, which I don't handle well - what meds?

    It is because it keeps them together & out of harm's way. Am a firm believer in Murphy's Law. Got tons of them...since my state health care plan only allows me to get 30 days worth of meds at a time.

    Oh, OK.

    Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves
    Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

    If I remember right...the character is dying & wants to get to Darwin
    to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him to die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it in the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.

    Rings a bell. :)

    DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.
    Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/

    Welcome to American Exceptionalism!

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 21:30:00
    On 03-09-20 16:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind
    Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

    That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...no matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of
    the package.

    Yes, good news. Iy may never totally happen, but at least he's open to exploring the idea.

    Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time.

    I know I couldn't do it.

    May eventually end up with a FT position. Gonna apply for it next time
    it comes up. Two of us are around the same age...with the rest of them
    in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do...as long as I get my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're
    seeing who does what.

    Good luck, sounds like you deserve to go FT. :)

    Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system rig now.
    Cool. :)

    They allow you to install it from DOS or Windows...but not exactly sure how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.

    Hmm, OK. Something to think about. :D



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 21:31:00
    On 03-09-20 16:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.
    Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

    Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

    And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:21:39
    Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...bu I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)
    Have to ask the other half about that, he's the historian in this house. ;)

    Expected to find something else when I looked it up on Google. I hate getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

    Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor abou it tomorrow.
    Hmm OK, I'm still getting fragmented information, which I don't handle well - what meds?

    Was an anti-depressant. Am going to head over to my appointment in about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the ride. Am binging
    a program shot in your neck of the woods in the early 90's called Time Trax. The main character rides a Harley & says he loves the feel of the breeze on
    his face. Same thing here.

    to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.
    Rings a bell. :)

    It's gotten to the point I come across anything with AUS in the listing...I have to watch it. That & the BBC are about the only thing I usually watch. Another show I'm watching as well is Death in Paradise. Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

    Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/
    Welcome to American Exceptionalism!
    Haha apparently so. :)

    I feel kind of less educated when I watch something & I have to look up the slang. For instance...Mrs. Brown's Boys takes place in Ireland...but still
    need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:30:42
    That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...n matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of the package.
    Yes, good news. Iy may never totally happen, but at least he's open to exploring the idea.

    Got it downloaded last night & installed it. No problems with that. Logged on
    & forgot the system didn't have my files from here...so copied them over to a USB drive & it won't read it. Something I'm looking into when I have the time.

    To give you an idea of what happens...you open Mystic...up pops the logon screen as a PM. Even looks better than on Windows. Get the USB issue figured out...am going to take a complete look at it. Just from what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has outdone himself.

    Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time
    I know I couldn't do it.

    One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that helps out.

    in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do... long as I get my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're seeing who does what.
    Good luck, sounds like you deserve to go FT. :)

    Been there 2 years. One thing which bothers me is anything like this will not happen if the economy here goes south.

    how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.
    Hmm, OK. Something to think about. :D

    Got it done last night. Formatted a USB card reader as FAT16 & booted the ThinkCentre into DOS. Still not able to do the upgrade...pulled out the
    reader & put it on my main system & moved the files to the root. Put it back
    in & restarted the box. Everything went automatically like it was supposed
    to. Now...got a BIOS update which is current & less than 2 years old. Even my MSI board on my main system doesn't provide BIOS upgrades after a year or so.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:31:40
    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of
    Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)
    Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)
    And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*

    For 1979...was amazed they allowed those scenes to stay in.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 13:12:00
    On 03-10-20 11:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Expected to find something else when I looked it up on Google. I hate getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

    Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

    Was an anti-depressant. Am going to head over to my appointment in
    about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the

    Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed (on the track) for my mental health.

    ride. Am binging a program shot in your neck of the woods in the early 90's called Time Trax. The main character rides a Harley & says he
    loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.

    Cool, that I can understand. :)

    It's gotten to the point I come across anything with AUS in the listing...I have to watch it. That & the BBC are about the only thing I usually watch. Another show I'm watching as well is Death in Paradise. Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

    Yes, you have good taste. :)

    I feel kind of less educated when I watch something & I have to look up the slang. For instance...Mrs. Brown's Boys takes place in
    Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the
    slang means.

    But you're educating yourself. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 13:17:00
    On 03-10-20 11:30, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    To give you an idea of what happens...you open Mystic...up pops the
    logon screen as a PM. Even looks better than on Windows. Get the USB
    issue figured out...am going to take a complete look at it. Just from
    what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has
    outdone himself.

    Sounds quite good! :) Definitely one to play with at some stage. Have to get a PC running ArcaOS first. That in turn is waiting on some money to come in, which is due any day.

    Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time
    I know I couldn't do it.

    One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that
    helps out.

    Unfortunately I have a body clock that doesn't like being tinkered with. :/

    Been there 2 years. One thing which bothers me is anything like this
    will not happen if the economy here goes south.

    That's all hanging in the balance right now, though today didn't look so bad here. I might be doing my little bit to help the tourism economy too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

    Got it done last night. Formatted a USB card reader as FAT16 & booted
    the ThinkCentre into DOS. Still not able to do the upgrade...pulled out the reader & put it on my main system & moved the files to the root.
    Put it back in & restarted the box. Everything went automatically like
    it was supposed to. Now...got a BIOS update which is current & less
    than 2 years old. Even my MSI board on my main system doesn't provide
    BIOS upgrades after a year or so.

    Sounds like you're good to go. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 13:18:00
    On 03-10-20 11:31, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of
    Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)
    Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)
    And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*

    For 1979...was amazed they allowed those scenes to stay in.

    LOL yep. :D


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 22:27:27
    getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.
    Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

    YET!!

    about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the
    Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed
    (on the track) for my mental health.

    Mine's from defective genes. Runs in the family from bad brain chemistry.

    loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.
    Cool, that I can understand. :)

    Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.

    Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.
    Yes, you have good taste. :)

    I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

    Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.
    But you're educating yourself. :)

    Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 22:36:40
    what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has outdone himself.
    to get a PC running ArcaOS first. That in turn is waiting on some money to come in, which is due any day.

    As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of information out there on how to set it up. If you can find a used PC like I did...that would be the way to go...but if not...run it on VB.

    One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that helps out.
    Unfortunately I have a body clock that doesn't like being tinkered with.

    Don't like different shifts...but got my fingers crossed that my shifts will
    be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the time...since I will be used to it.

    too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

    Have done very little travel in the past 20 years. With the way things
    are...if I left the country would try like hell on not coming back.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 17:18:00
    On 03-10-20 22:27, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.
    Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

    YET!!

    Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing focus on training.
    D

    about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the
    Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed
    (on the track) for my mental health.

    Mine's from defective genes. Runs in the family from bad brain
    chemistry.

    Yeah well don't get me started on my brain, it's totally weird! :D

    loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.
    Cool, that I can understand. :)

    Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.

    Having a spell of nice warm weather here. Great to be outside. Will be looking forward to getting on the track for training tomorrow night, and on to the weekend for the competition. :)

    Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.
    Yes, you have good taste. :)

    I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

    Haha. :D

    Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.
    But you're educating yourself. :)

    Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

    Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 17:21:00
    On 03-10-20 22:36, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of information out there on how to set it up. If you can find a used PC
    like I did...that would be the way to go...but if not...run it on VB.

    I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

    Don't like different shifts...but got my fingers crossed that my shifts will be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the
    time...since I will be used to it.

    Fair enough. I also now have that training regime that keeps me on an even keel. :)

    too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

    Have done very little travel in the past 20 years. With the way things are...if I left the country would try like hell on not coming back.

    Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once the COVID-19 quitens down.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:17:31
    Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better
    with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing
    focus on training. D

    You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.

    Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.
    Having a spell of nice warm weather here. Great to be outside. Will be looking forward to getting on the track for training tomorrow night, and on to the weekend for the competition. :)

    Getting ready to head to work. Gotta a call from my boss asking me if I
    wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours is the ticket.

    I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)
    Haha. :D

    Tastes bad & leaves marks as well. Never a good sign.

    Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.
    Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D

    Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:24:23
    As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of
    I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

    But in the short term...you do have an option.

    Just got my USB drive to work with DFSee. Had to have it lay an LVM on the drive & didn't destroy the data. Plus...10 can see it for me to write data
    to. Next...is to find the LMHosts file & put my desktop/netbook on it to be able to do file transfers across the wire.

    will be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the time...since I will be used to it.
    Fair enough. I also now have that training regime that keeps me on an even keel. :)

    Looks like something may start happening...especially after the phone call
    from the boss earlier asking me to come in tomorrow to fill lunches from 10-2.

    Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once
    the COVID-19 quitens down.

    Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I'm wrong.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 12, 2020 14:57:00
    On 03-11-20 12:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better
    with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing
    focus on training. D

    You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.

    Haha well, not only are my performances improving, I've had people come up and say I'm looking better now than I did years ago, and I was in reasonable condition all of my life. But these days, I have better muscle definition, and I have lost a little around the middle. :)

    Getting ready to head to work. Gotta a call from my boss asking me if I wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours is the ticket.

    Ahh OK, cool. :)

    I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)
    Haha. :D

    Tastes bad & leaves marks as well. Never a good sign.

    Haha :D

    Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.
    Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D

    Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

    My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 12, 2020 15:01:00
    On 03-11-20 12:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of
    I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

    But in the short term...you do have an option.

    True, it is better than nothing. :)

    Just got my USB drive to work with DFSee. Had to have it lay an LVM on
    the drive & didn't destroy the data. Plus...10 can see it for me to
    write data to. Next...is to find the LMHosts file & put my
    desktop/netbook on it to be able to do file transfers across the wire.

    Cool, have fun. :)

    Looks like something may start happening...especially after the phone
    call from the boss earlier asking me to come in tomorrow to fill
    lunches from 10-2.

    Helpful. :)

    Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once
    the COVID-19 quitens down.

    Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the
    OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I'm wrong.

    So do I. :(


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 12, 2020 08:23:50
    with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing focus on training. D
    You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.
    Haha well, not only are my performances improving, I've had people come
    up and say I'm looking better now than I did years ago, and I was in reasonable condition all of my life. But these days, I have better
    muscle definition, and I have lost a little around the middle. :)

    Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack
    any day of the week. ;)

    wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours the ticket.
    Ahh OK, cool. :)

    Found out the boss is cutting hours of some people...while giving me more. Plus...they fired 2 supervisors yesterday. One for having people work off the clock & the other for her sister (who used to work there) come in & shooting her mouth off in front of a customer & her big sister not doing anything
    about it...so the customer complained.

    Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.
    My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)

    Same thing...but we got ours through giveaways at grocery stores when I was a kid.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 12, 2020 08:28:48
    I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.
    But in the short term...you do have an option.
    True, it is better than nothing. :)

    There is a learning curve...but you run Linux...will be a walk in the park.

    Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I wrong.
    So do I. :(

    Heard the news out of Ottawa of the OPOS restricting travel & blaming
    everyone else for its stupidity. Am shocked it didn't restrict travel from
    your area of the world. That may be next.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 10:04:00
    On 03-12-20 08:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack any day of the week. ;)

    Haha, you wish. :P

    Found out the boss is cutting hours of some people...while giving me
    more. Plus...they fired 2 supervisors yesterday. One for having people work off the clock & the other for her sister (who used to work there) come in & shooting her mouth off in front of a customer & her big
    sister not doing anything about it...so the customer complained.

    Hmm, sounds like a good cleaning out, and you're doing well from it.

    Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.
    My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)

    Same thing...but we got ours through giveaways at grocery stores when I was a kid.

    Handy. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 10:16:00
    On 03-12-20 08:28, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.
    But in the short term...you do have an option.
    True, it is better than nothing. :)

    There is a learning curve...but you run Linux...will be a walk in the park.

    Yeah I had some quirky issues with VB. Adding a second virtual HDD would crash the interface. I'd have to edit the configuration by hand to add the HDD, then fire up the interface to change the settings that I couldn't easily do by hand.
    And it didn't behave the way I wanted with regards to booting. I couldn't stop Boot Manager from booting, even though I had set another virtual HDD as the boot drive.

    Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I wrong.
    So do I. :(

    Heard the news out of Ottawa of the OPOS restricting travel & blaming everyone else for its stupidity. Am shocked it didn't restrict travel
    from your area of the world. That may be next.

    Our case load has been low so far. Bit of a cockup this morning, with the F1 Grand Prix finally being called off (just announced now). When I got up this morning, it was going ahead, then there was a crisis meeting due at 8:30. Shortly afterwards, the state Premier announced that there would be no spectators allowed, and the F1 organisers could either go ahead without crowds or cancel the event. However, some of the drivers had already left, and the organisers decided to cancel the race altogether, which was the wisest decision. But there's still public health issues, because the crowds were allowed to gether at the gate for several hours.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 12, 2020 17:17:43
    Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack any day of the week. ;)
    Haha, you wish. :P

    At least with my keg...will never starve when turning it into a 6-pack.

    On a serious note...just got a call from my doctor & everything was normal.
    Eye doctor said there was no damage in my eyes from pre-diabetes or anything else. Thought I could eventually rename myself Abby Normal. ;)

    come in & shooting her mouth off in front of a customer & her big sister not doing anything about it...so the customer complained.
    Hmm, sounds like a good cleaning out, and you're doing well from it.

    True. Got an email from earlier in the week to do a shift or 2 on my days off as a cashier. The head of HR wasn't happy when I told her the same thing I
    told my current/former supervisors that I don't want to do a shift to keep myself safe/happy. My boss loves me...but still have to watch out.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 12, 2020 17:22:16
    altogether, which was the wisest decision. But there's still public health issues, because the crowds were allowed to gether at the gate for several hours.

    Same thing at Oregon State University. Classes were called off...but the students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being the case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 04:18:15
    Same thing at Oregon State University. Classes were called off...but the students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being the case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.

    All conversation roads leads to COVID-19 it seems :)

    Berkeley unified school district just announced its closing down campuses.

    The fun continues.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 15:30:00
    On 03-12-20 17:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack any day of the week. ;)
    Haha, you wish. :P

    At least with my keg...will never starve when turning it into a 6-pack.

    Haha. :D

    On a serious note...just got a call from my doctor & everything was normal. Eye doctor said there was no damage in my eyes from
    pre-diabetes or anything else. Thought I could eventually rename myself Abby Normal. ;)

    That's good news. My doctor doesn't worry about anything exercise related, as I do several times the recommended minimum. :D

    True. Got an email from earlier in the week to do a shift or 2 on my
    days off as a cashier. The head of HR wasn't happy when I told her the same thing I told my current/former supervisors that I don't want to do
    a shift to keep myself safe/happy. My boss loves me...but still have to watch out.

    Hmm, OK.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 15:31:00
    On 03-12-20 17:22, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    altogether, which was the wisest decision. But there's still public health issues, because the crowds were allowed to gether at the gate for several hours.

    Same thing at Oregon State University. Classes were called off...but
    the students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being the case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.

    That's pretty piss poor, should have had security shooing them away. :/


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Phoobar on Friday, March 13, 2020 16:46:08
    students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being the case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.

    Well, thats the double whammy. Now you're learning nothing and STILL
    spreading the virus.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Alpha on Friday, March 13, 2020 16:46:52
    All conversation roads leads to COVID-19 it seems :)

    Isn't that how viruses work? This thing is spreading into our message network!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Alpha on Friday, March 13, 2020 07:31:31
    Berkeley unified school district just announced its closing down
    campuses.

    Heard the libraries & the schools around here were closing down...but the library was still open yesterday afternoon.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, March 13, 2020 07:34:25
    On a serious note...just got a call from my doctor & everything was normal. Eye doctor said there was no damage in my eyes from pre-diabetes or anything else. Thought I could eventually rename myse Abby Normal. ;)
    That's good news. My doctor doesn't worry about anything exercise related, as I do several times the recommended minimum. :D

    Very good! They even tested for Hep C...but she said nothing about it...so looks like I missed that bullet.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, March 13, 2020 07:35:47
    Same thing at Oregon State University. Classes were called off...but the students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being th case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.
    That's pretty piss poor, should have had security shooing them away. :/

    The houses are off campus...so nothing the campus police will do. If they go wild...the city/county will get involved.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to g00r00 on Friday, March 13, 2020 07:37:17
    students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being the case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.
    Well, thats the double whammy. Now you're learning nothing and STILL spreading the virus.

    Nothing like destroying brain cells...spreading VD AND another dangerous
    virus which can do them in faster than the VD.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 14, 2020 10:34:00
    On 03-13-20 07:34, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Very good! They even tested for Hep C...but she said nothing about
    it...so looks like I missed that bullet.

    Good to know.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 14, 2020 10:35:00
    On 03-13-20 07:35, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Same thing at Oregon State University. Classes were called off...but the students were outside getting drunk having parties. This being th case...COVAD-19 is the last thing they need to worry about.
    That's pretty piss poor, should have had security shooing them away. :/

    The houses are off campus...so nothing the campus police will do. If
    they go wild...the city/county will get involved.

    Ahh OK, one of those "nothing you can do" situations. :/


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 14, 2020 13:05:08
    Very good! They even tested for Hep C...but she said nothing about it...so looks like I missed that bullet.
    Good to know.

    But...but...but...I've always been told I was abnormal. Now I have someone telling that I'm normal. As god is my witness...I will not let this stand! I
    am ABNORMAL and I expect the prognosis to reflect that. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 14, 2020 13:06:41
    The houses are off campus...so nothing the campus police will do. If they go wild...the city/county will get involved.
    Ahh OK, one of those "nothing you can do" situations. :/

    Probably when you add in the "parents" of these "angels" were to get involved...they will make sure you are correct.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 15, 2020 19:05:00
    On 03-14-20 13:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Very good! They even tested for Hep C...but she said nothing about it...so looks like I missed that bullet.
    Good to know.

    But...but...but...I've always been told I was abnormal. Now I have
    someone telling that I'm normal. As god is my witness...I will not let this stand! I am ABNORMAL and I expect the prognosis to reflect that.
    ;)


    Haha, I'm just plain weird, even by weird standards! :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 15, 2020 19:07:00
    On 03-14-20 13:06, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Ahh OK, one of those "nothing you can do" situations. :/

    Probably when you add in the "parents" of these "angels" were to get involved...they will make sure you are correct.

    Yep, they just make matters worse. Their "little darlings" would never misbehave. :/


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  • From buanzo@21:2/161 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 15, 2020 08:15:43
    On 14 Mar 2020, Phoobar said the following...
    this stand! I am ABNORMAL and I expect the prognosis to reflect that. ;)

    My shrink loves it when I say this is normal / not normal :P

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 15, 2020 21:22:57
    it...so looks like I missed that bullet.
    Good to know.
    But...but...but...I've always been told I was abnormal. Now I have someone telling that I'm normal. As god is my witness...I will not le this stand! I am ABNORMAL and I expect the prognosis to reflect that. ;)
    Haha, I'm just plain weird, even by weird standards! :D

    You realize standards change & the mark moves all over the place...so I'm
    still the winner. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 15, 2020 21:27:58
    Ahh OK, one of those "nothing you can do" situations. :/
    Probably when you add in the "parents" of these "angels" were to get involved...they will make sure you are correct.
    Yep, they just make matters worse. Their "little darlings" would never misbehave. :/

    When you take science into account & their misunderstanding of basic science (laws of thermodynamics) will ensure their certain future. At almost 60 years old...should be dead & won't be able to see this happen. Makes me sad I can't point/laugh at them.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to buanzo on Sunday, March 15, 2020 21:31:38
    this stand! I am ABNORMAL and I expect the prognosis to reflect that.
    My shrink loves it when I say this is normal / not normal :P

    As I've mentioned to Tony...when normal comes to my neck of the woods...just
    a moving target that I can barely keep up with. Should've been named trouble...since I grab it by the hand & tell it to follow me. ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 16, 2020 16:56:00
    On 03-15-20 21:22, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Haha, I'm just plain weird, even by weird standards! :D

    You realize standards change & the mark moves all over the place...so
    I'm still the winner. ;)

    I baffle psychologists. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 16, 2020 16:58:00
    On 03-15-20 21:27, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    When you take science into account & their misunderstanding of basic science (laws of thermodynamics) will ensure their certain future. At

    Hmm, trying to interpret that, it seemed to come out sideways. ;)

    almost 60 years old...should be dead & won't be able to see this
    happen. Makes me sad I can't point/laugh at them.

    I'll probably be around another 40 years or so...


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:06:32
    You realize standards change & the mark moves all over the place...so I'm still the winner. ;)
    I baffle psychologists. ;)

    Even I baffle sociologists. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:12:45
    almost 60 years old...should be dead & won't be able to see this happen. Makes me sad I can't point/laugh at them.
    I'll probably be around another 40 years or so...

    Don't want to live to be 100. Read about those who have lived to be this old. They are resilient...but look at what they've lost.

    As long as I can look at kids to get outta my yard...that will be great.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 09:43:00
    On 03-16-20 11:06, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You realize standards change & the mark moves all over the place...so I'm still the winner. ;)
    I baffle psychologists. ;)

    Even I baffle sociologists. ;)

    You see some professionally? :P


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 09:44:00
    On 03-16-20 11:12, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    almost 60 years old...should be dead & won't be able to see this happen. Makes me sad I can't point/laugh at them.
    I'll probably be around another 40 years or so...

    Don't want to live to be 100. Read about those who have lived to be
    this old. They are resilient...but look at what they've lost.

    I'll be in my early 90s in 40 years.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 16, 2020 23:52:26
    You realize standards change & the mark moves all over the place I'm still the winner. ;)
    Even I baffle sociologists. ;)
    You see some professionally? :P

    Being I can't see in the dark...no...but they do pay well afterwards. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 16, 2020 23:53:59
    I'll probably be around another 40 years or so...
    I'll be in my early 90s in 40 years.

    Never to wait...I'm an old fart right now & get worse with age. ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 20:02:00
    On 03-16-20 23:53, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'll probably be around another 40 years or so...
    I'll be in my early 90s in 40 years.

    Never to wait...I'm an old fart right now & get worse with age. ;)

    I'm still getting better with age. ;) Regular training can work miracles. ;)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 08:28:15
    I'll be in my early 90s in 40 years.
    Never to wait...I'm an old fart right now & get worse with age. ;)
    I'm still getting better with age. ;) Regular training can work
    miracles. ;)

    Want to go out like Orson Wells...doing wine commercials & living on my failures. ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:36:00
    On 03-17-20 08:28, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Want to go out like Orson Wells...doing wine commercials & living on my failures. ;)

    Haha. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 04:29:49
    Want to go out like Orson Wells...doing wine commercials & living on failures. ;)
    Haha. :)

    I knew what I forgot was a phrase...slurring my words doing wine
    commercials...

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  • From Havok@21:4/10 to Al on Saturday, April 25, 2020 18:47:52
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: Al to Havok on Sat Feb 22 2020 07:17 pm


    Give Magicka a try and give your feedback and ideas to Apam. It's not Renegade or VA I know, but it's off the a good start.

    I may but right now I'm trying to learn SBBS and it's kind of fun learning!



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  • From Havok@21:4/10 to apam on Saturday, April 25, 2020 18:55:37
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: apam to Havok on Sun Feb 23 2020 02:04 pm

    Do you have any coding skills? Writing a BBS isn't too hard if you break it down into smaller pieces. The hardest part is integrating the older technologies I think like squish or JAM or FTN etc. If you use squish or JAM then you can use HPT as a tosser and binkd as a mailer and focus on the BBS.

    Hello apam, better late then never to reply!

    No I don't have much of any skills in coding.

    But being I built concept cars for GM Engineering give me a surface plate
    and flag I can start from the ground up and build a car from start to
    finish that drives to a truck and then to the Auto Shows.

    My son being around me playing and building computers did follow your path.
    I guess we all have some kind of skill set.

    And yes your good at yours!


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  • From bbsing@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 21:06:05
    On 27 Feb 2020 at 02:34p, Vk3jed pondered and said...
    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those
    areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    Hi Vk3jed,

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors
    on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing and
    the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to bbsing on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 00:42:26
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: bbsing to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 05 2021 09:06 pm

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    I think vk3jed was speaking of issues that can happen if a hudson message base grows beyond it's limits.

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    That's an odd one. Both MultiMail and Terminate have nice message readers. Terminate has an excellent point reader built in.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Do you see that with all the QWK packets you download or is that on a particular BBS?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to bbsing on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 21:28:00
    On 01-05-21 21:06, bbsing wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 27 Feb 2020 at 02:34p, Vk3jed pondered and said...
    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those
    areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    Hi Vk3jed,

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    With a corrupt HMB, messages would find their way into the wrong area and even get exported to the wrong echos!

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail
    0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Hmm, I don't recognise any of the symptoms you're describing. :( When I had a corrupt messagebase, I could still download messages into Bluewave (that's what I used back then), but they were all in the wrong areas, almost randomaly scattered throughout the messagebase. Only fix was to delete the messagebase and start again. I can't recall if multiple message bodies ended up with the one header or anything weird like that, it was a very long time ago!

    Anyway, looks like you have some form of corruption somewhere.


    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has
    many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing
    and the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Definitely something's corrupted!


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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 08:46:52
    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm
    seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using
    multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Hmm, I don't recognise any of the symptoms you're describing. :( When I had a corrupt messagebase, I could still download messages into Bluewave (that's what I used back then), but they were all in the wrong areas, almost randomaly scattered throughout the messagebase. Only fix was to delete the messagebase and start again. I can't recall if multiple message

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    Multimail should support QWKE just fine. Not sure about Terminate. Back when I used Terminate it was just a comm program.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Bob Roberts on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 19:29:00
    On 01-05-21 08:46, Bob Roberts wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the
    hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    I know the wrong QWK settings on the BBS end cause packets to fail to open in Multimail. Haven't seen that sort of corruption though.

    Multimail should support QWKE just fine. Not sure about Terminate.
    Back when I used Terminate it was just a comm program.

    Yeah Multimail opens QWKE fine - I'm doing it now. :)


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  • From TheMadGamerMan@21:1/190 to Havok on Thursday, November 05, 2020 03:16:54
    I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the old source code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

    You and me both.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to bbsing on Friday, December 17, 2021 19:28:00
    On 01-05-21 21:06, bbsing wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    Messages get posted to the wrong area. This happens if the corruption happens between new messages getting posted and them getting scanned for forwarding to other BBSs. Because the headers are all screwed up, they get sent to the wrong echo.

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail
    0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.


    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has
    many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing
    and the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Yep, seen that too. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Bob Roberts on Friday, December 17, 2021 19:30:00
    On 01-05-21 08:46, Bob Roberts wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the
    hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    We were talking about the effects of a corrupt Hudson messagebase.


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