Hi All,

So I seemingly have Telegard all setup and can now send & receive echomail
via Telegard <-> FastEcho <-> Binkd. The only issue I just now came across
is with Netmail.

I have another JAM message base setup for Netmail (just like Mystic you set a message bases type, either local, echomail, netmail or internet email).

Echomail is tossed into .PKT's which Binkd sees and sends out, whereas netmail gets tossed into another directory into .MSG files.

Back in the day I used Frontdoor which would read these .MSG files and then send them out. (I seem to remember using Frontdoor to send/receive & read/write netmail).

Am I missing something either in Fastecho or Binkd with netmail, or would I need another utility to toss .MSG files into .PKTs for Binkd?

Ideally I would like netmail to be that same JAM area in Telegard so I can
read them there instead of having to remember to check elsewhere.

Jay

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Hello Warpslide,

Echomail is tossed into .PKT's which Binkd sees and sends out, whereas netmail gets tossed into another directory into .MSG files.

*.MSG is a message base format like jam or squish but not the same and I wouldn't use it today for anything but netmail.

FastEcho may be thinking your outbound is in FD or arcmail attach but you'll need to have it in BSO mode for binkd to be able to send it.

You also need to use a switch for packing netmail into the BSO instead of netmail. I forget now what the switch is you need to use.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 07 Jun 2020, Al said the following...

FastEcho may be thinking your outbound is in FD or arcmail attach but you'll need to have it in BSO mode for binkd to be able to send it.

So... I did the unthinkable. I opened up fastecho.doc!

Turns out there's an extra step for netmail for some reason. When I run "fastecho scan" it will take all echomail and pack it & for some reason put netmail into a separate message base.

I then need to run "fastecho pack" which will then pack the netmail from this separate message base into the .PKT I was expecting to see. *shrugs*

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

Jay

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So I seemingly have Telegard all setup and can now send & receive
echomail via Telegard <-> FastEcho <-> Binkd. The only issue I just now came across is with Netmail.

Finally got TG/2 set up with all the messages bases. After spending a while renaming every file to the 8.3 name & getting FE set up with the same names/locations...FE finds the message bases & does its thing.

Still having trouble getting SGMail to connect...much less BinkD. Still
giving me errors when attempting to connect with the hubs. Along with that...still having problems with TG/2 taking the strings to connect from SGMail.

In terms of netmail...have it set up as a JAM base...but told FE under System/FEUtil Parameters to set "Include USERS.BBS" to "NO".

For FE...here's what I got for FE:
cd d:\fe
fastecho toss
feutil import
fastecho scan
feutil purge
feutil pack -renumber -jam
feutil link -ignore

From there...am at a loss on the proper string to pass to TG/2 & make SGMail restart itself after running FE. Just heads back to the folder & a command prompt.

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On 07 Jun 2020, Phoobar said the following...

Still having trouble getting SGMail to connect...much less BinkD. Still giving me errors when attempting to connect with the hubs. Along with that...still having problems with TG/2 taking the strings to connect from SGMail.

I've never really used OS/2 or SGMail so I don't have much to offer in the
way of advice. I'm using netfossil & Net2BBS in Windows 10 32bit and it
seems to do the job.

Net2BBS is the telnet server and when it receives a connection it just runs netfossil & passes the connection to Telegard:

c:\tg\nf\nf.bat /n*N /h*H c:\tg\telegard.exe -B115200 -N*N -Q

I have 3 nodes configured in Telegard, each with the modem configs as COM1, COM2 or COM3 and all of them IRQ0 w/ base I/O address.

About the only thing I had to change was setting the hangup string to ATH0 & set Hangup w/DTR Toggle to No, otherwise when a user logged off the node
seemed to hang. With these two settings it disconnected and recycled the
node almost immediately.

In terms of netmail...have it set up as a JAM base...but told FE under System/FEUtil Parameters to set "Include USERS.BBS" to "NO".

Yeah, I found those settings early on. I was posting test echomail messages and FE seemed to ignore all of them until I switched that to No.

For FE...here's what I got for FE:
fastecho toss

For me fastecho toss would do all of the echomail and then put netmail into another message base. I had to also run:

fastecho pack

To pack the netmail which then tosses it into the C:\tg\echomail\out folder into a .PKT for binkd to send.

feutil import

And yes, feutil import will then take the netmail from that separate message base and put it back into the JAM base where I would expect them to go.

Going through all of this again REALLY makes me appreciate how easy Mystic makes all of this.

From there...am at a loss on the proper string to pass to TG/2 & make SGMail restart itself after running FE. Just heads back to the folder &
a command prompt.

I'm not familiar with OS/2, does it use .BAT files?

I seem to remember using GOTO commands with Frontdoor all those years ago:

e.g:

@ECHO OFF
SET TELEGARD=C:\TG
SET TASK=1

:START

C:
CD \FD
frontdoor.exe /stuff /goes /here

IF ERRORLEVEL 34 GOTO BBS

:BBS
C:
CD \TG
TELEGARD.EXE -B115200 -N1 -Q
GOTO START

Again, I don't know if OS/2 uses batch files, or if SGMail works the same, so maybe barking up the wrong tree.

Jay

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the way of advice. I'm using netfossil & Net2BBS in Windows 10 32bit
and it seems to do the job.

When I started off playing around with Renegade...Netfossil/Net2BBS were a dream come true. Worked like a dream without pulling teeth.

c:\tg\nf\nf.bat /n*N /h*H c:\tg\telegard.exe -B115200 -N*N -Q

That last part is something new. Here's the one I found:

TELEGARD -B%1 -X%3 -N%4 -C%5 -Q

Using this...TG/2 says it can't find the node & drops to the command line.

System/FEUtil Parameters to set "Include USERS.BBS" to "NO".

Yeah, I found those settings early on. I was posting test echomail messages and FE seemed to ignore all of them until I switched that to No.

Glad you were able to find that. Got some FAQ pages listing what other people do.

fastecho pack
To pack the netmail which then tosses it into the C:\tg\echomail\out folder into a .PKT for binkd to send.

Have it set up with -RENUMBER -JAM

Going through all of this again REALLY makes me appreciate how easy
Mystic makes all of this.

That's why I was trying to run Lora...but couldn't get it to answer the phone automatically or import my message/file bases.

I'm not familiar with OS/2, does it use .BAT files?

Soft of. DOS uses *.BAT...while OS/2 uses *.CMD. They are exactly the same format. If you're using a DOS program...you use BAT files...while OS/2 would use CMD files.

Again, I don't know if OS/2 uses batch files, or if SGMail works the
same, so maybe barking up the wrong tree.

Works roughly the same way as FD. The big difference is you don't have the giant FRODO.BAT. Now...not sure about the OS/2 version of FD...but it's probably the same way.

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On 08 Jun 2020, Phoobar said the following...

TELEGARD -B%1 -X%3 -N%4 -C%5 -Q

Using this...TG/2 says it can't find the node & drops to the command
line.

What's the .bat/.cmd file look like?

Based on what I'm seeing I would expect it to be called like:

OS2BATFILE.CMD 57600 something 60 1 ARQ

Where %1 = 57600, %2 = ?, %3 = 60, %4 = 1, & %5 = ARQ

Which then should translate to:

TELEGARD -B57600 -X60 -N1 -CARQ -Q

So Telegard would be loading a new connection at 57600bps on node 1. It
would have an external event in 60 minutes and the modem would be operating in ARQ mode. I don't know that we need the -C flag when using telnet.

I did notice an option when I ran telegard.exe /?:

-H[n] OS/2 Communication Handle (/2)

Not sure if that would be required or not? Do you have a sysop.log in
tg\logs that provides any clues?

Jay

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What's the .bat/.cmd file look like?

To be able to call the BBS...my BBS.CMD looks like this:

@echo off
d:
cd\tgbbs\tg
tg2 -n%1 -b%3 -q -z%5
d:
cd\sgmail

My LOCAL.CMD looks like this:

@echo off
d:
cd\tgbbs\tg
tg2 -n1 -l
cd\sgmail

The local works every time because it's going to log onto node #1. If I
wanted to use another node...place that number next to -n.

OS2BATFILE.CMD 57600 something 60 1 ARQ
Where %1 = 57600, %2 = ?, %3 = 60, %4 = 1, & %5 = ARQ
Which then should translate to:
TELEGARD -B57600 -X60 -N1 -CARQ -Q
So Telegard would be loading a new connection at 57600bps on node 1. It would have an external event in 60 minutes and the modem would be operating in ARQ mode. I don't know that we need the -C flag when using telnet.

The 2 CMD files from above were from Sean Dennis when he was running/test
TG2. Will set your suggestion up either tomorrow night or Wednesday evening after work.

Not sure if that would be required or not? Do you have a sysop.log in tg\logs that provides any clues?

Will copy it onto a thumb drive tomorrow or the next day.

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That's why I was trying to run Lora...but couldn't get it to answer the phone automatically or import my message/file bases.

I have Lora ver 2.41b3/demo running on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and it answers the
phone correctly with SIO2K. I have not been able to locate a key for it so a lot of the functions don't work. If a key could be obtained I believe it
would be the perfect reto-bbs-mailer for older versions of OS/2. I have
another machine running Frontdoor and Maximus for OS/2. Can't get a key for Frontdoor as well but fun to test with.

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Re: Re: FastEcho Netmail
By: doctor wade to Phoobar on Tue Jun 09 2020 12:42 pm

another machine running Frontdoor and Maximus for OS/2. Can't get a key for Frontdoor as well but fun to test with.

FWIW, I got a FrontDoor key about 6 months ago (might have been 12) - by emailing. Dont recall the mail now, but I got it from the website.

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FWIW, I got a FrontDoor key about 6 months ago (might have been 12) - by emailing. Dont recall the mail now, but I got it from the website.

I have emailed him twice or rather the address listed in the website. I
belong to the Frontdoor Facebook group and saw where he lost a ssd drive that had the info needed to cut keys. That has been quite a while ago. I also saw where he mentioned to email for keys instead of using Facebook. I'll keep trying and keep looking for a Lora key. <grin>

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I have Lora ver 2.41b3/demo running on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and it answers the phone correctly with SIO2K. I have not been able to locate a key for it

Just loaded up ArcaOS 5.0.5 (the newest one). Installed SIO2K 2.03 this
evening & Vmodem comes up with it's screen waiting for a call.

Just for giggles...started up SGmail & set the -n factor in the CMD file to
4. Doing that...I don't get the error message that it won't load the node (4
of them)...since I expressly told it to use #4.

In terms of Lora...it was setup with SIO2K...but would tell me the line was ringing...but wouldn't answer it. When I told it to answer the line...the BBS was usable. Would you be willing to provide your modem settings for me to
check against mine? Know it's something stupid I didn't do...but if someone does have it running...will check my set up against theirs.

In terms of a key...talked with Robert Wolfe over on the OS/2 echo on
FidoNet. Sean Dennis suggested I contact him...since he has a freeware
version for OS/2 he mentioned about putting up for people to grab. As soon as
I hear back from him...will let people know in here.

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In terms of Lora...it was setup with SIO2K...but would tell me the line was ringing...but wouldn't answer it. When I told it to answer the line...the BBS was usable. Would you be willing to provide your modem settings for me to check against mine? Know it's something stupid I

My modem config is:
manual answer YES
answer command ATA|
limited hours NO
starting time 00:00
ending time 00:00
OS/2 is a strange beast. I am running two VMs of Warp 4.52 that are identical in setup. Both use SIO2K. On one VM I can pretty much tell SIO2K to use port 2325 and the modem will answer correctly and pass the connect to Frontdoor.
On the other VM if I try to use any port other than 23 SIO will answer but never pass the call to the bbs. It will report "remote using wrong version of vmodem". I guess that is the price you pay for using antique software.

In terms of a key...talked with Robert Wolfe over on the OS/2 echo on FidoNet. Sean Dennis suggested I contact him...since he has a freeware version for OS/2 he mentioned about putting up for people to grab. As
soon as I hear back from him...will let people know in here.

Awesome. Thanks!

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My modem config is:
manual answer YES
answer command ATA|
limited hours NO
starting time 00:00
ending time 00:00

Got it & will let you know late this evening after I get home from work how
it went.

identical in setup. Both use SIO2K. On one VM I can pretty much tell
SIO2K to use port 2325 and the modem will answer correctly and pass the connect to Frontdoor. On the other VM if I try to use any port other
than 23 SIO will answer but never pass the call to the bbs. It will

Tell me about it. Have to go cable hunting to make sure I can reach the OS/2 box. Want to make sure I didn't unplug it from the wrong router when I was fooling around with the Chromecast to watch stuff from my server.

version for OS/2 he mentioned about putting up for people to grab. As soon as I hear back from him...will let people know in here.

Awesome. Thanks!

No problem!

Saw in a previous message that you got a key for FD by sending him a letter. Got my FE key this way...but didn't know he was doing it for FD as well. How hard is FD to set up for telnet...since I used to run it back in the day.
Thing is...I have dox which tell me how to work with FE-TG/2...so if FD would work...would use that.

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doctor wade wrote to Phoobar <=-

OS/2. I have another machine running Frontdoor and Maximus for OS/2.
Can't get a key for Frontdoor as well but fun to test with.

The noncommercial version of FD was free, wasn't it? I started off with FD, then moved over to BinkleyTerm when I went to OS/2.


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Saw in a previous message that you got a key for FD by sending him a letter. Got my FE key this way...but didn't know he was doing it for FD
as well. How hard is FD to set up for telnet...since I used to run it
back in the day. Thing is...I have dox which tell me how to work with FE-TG/2...so if FD would work...would use that.

I ran Frontdoor/RA back in the 90's using OS/2. The problem I see with Frontdoor today is that I can't get a key to enable all functions or to run multiline. I just use FD now to answer the phone and pass it to Maximus. I would probably be better off using Binkd for OS/2 to pass mail. FD will
answer with the same init as Lora. I use ATA| for answer string and ATZ| for init.

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The noncommercial version of FD was free, wasn't it? I started off with FD, then moved over to BinkleyTerm when I went to OS/2.

LOL. I did just the opposite back in the 90's. I ran BT and then went to Frontdoor. I am currently using Frontdoor 2.26 Shareware version for OS/2. It is pretty crippled without a key. I have FD233-DO multiline for OS/2 but it will not allow configuration without a key. I think it is time for me to
start wading through Bink for OS/2. I looked at the config file once and it looked like the learning curve might be steep.

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Re: Re: FastEcho Netmail
By: doctor wade to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 10 2020 03:00 pm

start wading through Bink for OS/2. I looked at the config file once and it looked like the learning curve might be steep.

It wasn't too hard. Switching from an ArcmailAttach mailer to BSO was a little tricky - make sure you tell your tosser you're changing mailer types!
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It wasn't too hard. Switching from an ArcmailAttach mailer to BSO was a little tricky - make sure you tell your tosser you're changing mailer types! --- SBBSecho 3.11-Win32

Good advice. Thanks!

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I ran Frontdoor/RA back in the 90's using OS/2. The problem I see with Frontdoor today is that I can't get a key to enable all functions or to run multiline. I just use FD now to answer the phone and pass it to Maximus. I would probably be better off using Binkd for OS/2 to pass

Used to run FD with TG/RG/TAG & such back in the day. They even have been upgrading FD for OS/2.

Got Binkd for OS/2 & tried it last night. Got all sorts of error messages running it by itself...but wouldn't connect. On the other hand...got Lora to connect over & over again after I checked Manual Answer (hadn't done it before)...as well as getting TG/2 to answer by itself. FE will p/u msgs...but sgmail does nothing but give an error...with no explanation. Now to get my messages/files imported into Lora & I can start running tests.

Are there any resources out there which will show you how to setup BinkD as a frontend?

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Are there any resources out there which will show you how to setup BinkD as a frontend?

To be truthful I have not looked. I think the way to go for me is with OS/2 is to have BinkD and Lora. Or Maximus.

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Are there any resources out there which will show you how to setup Bi as a frontend?

To be truthful I have not looked. I think the way to go for me is with OS/2 is to have BinkD and Lora. Or Maximus.

With Lora having a tosser/front end...don't need BinkD. Maybe someone can
tell me what's going on by this log from playing around with it this evening:

+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Begin, v2.99.41 (OS/2)
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Message-base sharing is enabled
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Import From inbound\
11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Throughput: 0 kB/sec, 0 mail/sec
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA No ECHOmail processed at this time
# 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Packing from msg\local\netmail (2 msgs)
: 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Packed=0
: 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Pack outbound mail (.\route.cfg)
# 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Scanning messages
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA No ECHOmail messages forwarded
# 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Packing from msg\local\netmail (2 msgs)
: 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Packed=0
: 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Pack outbound mail (.\route.cfg)
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Building the outbound queue
+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA 2 queue record(s) in database
: 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA End

+ 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA Begin, v2.99.41 (OS/2)
+ 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA Message-base sharing is enabled
! 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA WARNING: No license key found
! 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA Your system is limited to 2 lines
+ 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA Building the outbound queue
+ 11 Jun 21:35:53 LORA 2 queue record(s) in database
+ 11 Jun 22:13:48 LORA Building the outbound queue
+ 11 Jun 22:13:48 LORA 3 queue record(s) in database
: 11 Jun 22:14:51 LORA End

Lora will answer the line now...log me on. Went thru the configuration again this evening for the tosser/front end.

In terms of BINKD...here's a copy of the log from this evening. Believe it can't access 24554 or even connect past the box...but could be wrong.

11 Jun 22:32:22 [128] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/OS2 -P 21:2/100 binkd.cfg
11 Jun 22:32:22 [128] creating a poll for 21:2/100@fsxnet (`d' flavour)
11 Jun 22:32:22 [129] clientmgr started
11 Jun 22:32:22 [128] servmgr started
- 11 Jun 22:32:22 [128] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 11 Jun 22:32:22 [130] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 11 Jun 22:32:22 [130] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided,
or not known (-1)
11 Jun 22:32:22 [129] rc(130)=0
! 11 Jun 22:32:59 [128] got signal #15. Killing 129 and quitting...
! 11 Jun 22:32:59 [129] got signal #15.

11 Jun 22:35:26 [135] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/OS2 binkd.cfg
11 Jun 22:35:26 [136] clientmgr started
11 Jun 22:35:26 [135] servmgr started
- 11 Jun 22:35:26 [135] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 11 Jun 22:35:26 [137] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 11 Jun 22:35:27 [137] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided,
or not known (-1)
11 Jun 22:35:27 [136] rc(137)=0
+ 11 Jun 22:36:26 [138] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 11 Jun 22:36:30 [138] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided,
or not known (-1)
11 Jun 22:36:30 [136] rc(138)=0
+ 11 Jun 22:37:26 [139] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 11 Jun 22:37:27 [139] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided,
or not known (-1)
11 Jun 22:37:27 [136] rc(139)=0
+ 11 Jun 22:38:26 [160] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 11 Jun 22:38:26 [160] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided,
or not known (-1)
11 Jun 22:38:26 [136] rc(160)=0

Have not setup any of the nodelists for use by BINKD. If this is the
case...any dox I can look at?

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Hello Phoobar,

22:38:26 [160] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided, or
not known (-1) 11 Jun 22:38:26 [136] rc(160)=0

Is there a node line in your binkd.conf for your links?

Have not setup any of the nodelists for use by BINKD. If this is the case...any dox I can look at?

You can use a nodelist with binkd but that gets complicated. Here's the node line I use to connect hub 4, you'll just need to change the address and host info for your hub, and possibly the port. It looks like hub 2 is on port 24555.

node 21:4/100@fsxnet bbs.castlerocks.com:24560 PASSWORD c

The node lines are down near the bottom of your binkd.cfg.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello Phoobar,

A couple comments on binkd.

11 Jun 22:35:26 [135] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/OS2 binkd.cfg

Binkd has seen quite a few changes recently and it is now upto 1.1a-111. I can send you this version if you like.

I run binkd like this..

/usr/local/sbin/binkd -DC /usr/local/etc/binkd.conf

The -D causes binkd to daemonize. You may not want that until it is working for you. When it's daemonized it runs in the background unseen. You have to read the log file to see what it is doing. The -C causes binkd to reload the config whenever you change the binkd.cfg or any included config files so you don't have to stop and start binkd if you make changes to the config. It'll just keep on working in the background and you won't have to worry about it.

I believe I ran binkd this way on OS/2 back in time a bit.

Looking at the nodelist, a node line like this I think will work for you.. just enter your PASSWORD.

node 21:2/100@fsxnet error404bbs.ddns.net:24555 PASSWORD c

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

With Lora having a tosser/front end...don't need BinkD. Maybe someone can tell me what's going on by this log from playing around with it this evening:

+ 11 Jun 21:35:46 LORA Begin, v2.99.41 (OS/2)

I was told several months ago that Lora and Frontdoor would not communicate with modern mail protocols used by Mystic and that I would have to use BinkD. If that is false info then I will try using Loras builtin front end. I see
you are using version 2.99.41. Care to send me the link where I can find that version? I have a version that is newer than 2.41b3 but it is a demo that expired several years ago. I compiled a nodelist with Lora and tried to poll
my Mystic box but got no response.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Lab BBS (21:3/105)

22:38:26 [160] getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known (-1) 11 Jun 22:38:26 [136] rc(160)=0

Is there a node line in your binkd.conf for your links?

Here's a copy of my current binkd.conf. Further down the list...you will find my node lines.

# Number @ end is the root zone
domain fidonet d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain fsxnet d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain wwivftn d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain scinet d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain spooknet d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain micronet d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain vkradio d:\\fe\\outbound 1
domain amiganet d:\\fe\\outbound 1

# Our Addresses
address 1:340/1000@fidonet
address 21:1/121@fsxnet
address 11:1/223@wwivftn
address 77:1/129@scinet
address 700:100/70@spooknet
address 618:300/32@micronet
address 432:1/145@vkradio
address 39:905/103@amiganet

sysname "ACME BBS"
location "Albany, Oregon"
sysop "Phoobar"

nodeinfo 115200,CM,IBN
try 10
hold 600
send-if-pwd

log d:\\tgbbs\\binkd\\binkd.log
loglevel 4
conlog 4
percents
printq
backresolv

inbound d:\\fe\\inbound
inbound-nonsecure d:\\fe\\inbound\\insecure
inbound-temp d:\\fe\\inbound\\temp

minfree 2048
minfree-nonsecure 2048

kill-dup-partial-files
kill-old-partial-files 86400

prescan

# HUBS
node 3:770/1@fidonet -md ipv4.agency.bbs.ns ******** c
node 21:2/100@fsxnet -md ipv4.error404bbs.ddns.net:24555 ******** c
node 11:1/100@wwivftn -md ipv4.bbs.weather-station.org:24555 ******** c
node 77:1/100@scinet -md ipv4.bbs.diskshop.ca ******** c
node 700:100/70@spooknet -md ipv4.echo.phatstar.org ******** c
node 618:300/32@micronet -md ipv4.realitycheckbbs.org ******** c
node 432:1/100@vkradio -md ipv4.bridge.vkradio.com ******** c
node 39:905/0@amiganet -md ipv4.bbs.diskshop.ca ******** c


# our listening port (default=24554)
# use a different port for basic added security-ish (e.g. avoid generic scans) # iport 54554

pid-file d:\\tgbbs\\binkd\\binkd.pid

# touch a watch file when files are received to kick of toss
flag d:\\fe\\inbound\\toss!.now *.su? *.mo? *.tu? *.we? *.th? *.fr? *.sa?
*.pkt *.tic

# nuke old .bsy/.csy files after 12 hours
kill-old-bsy 12h

node 21:4/100@fsxnet bbs.castlerocks.com:24560 PASSWORD c
The node lines are down near the bottom of your binkd.cfg.

Got them just above this line.

Thank you again for the help!

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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11 Jun 22:35:26 [135] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-99/OS2 binkd.cfg

Binkd has seen quite a few changes recently and it is now upto 1.1a-111.
I can send you this version if you like.

If you can...please do.

I run binkd like this..

/usr/local/sbin/binkd -DC /usr/local/etc/binkd.conf
The -D causes binkd to daemonize. You may not want that until it is working for
you. When it's daemonized it runs in the background unseen. You have to read the log file to see what it is doing. The -C causes binkd to reload the config whenever you change the binkd.cfg or any included config
files so you don't have to stop and start binkd if you make changes to
the config. It'll just keep

Fantastic! Will be doing this once I get binkd running. Will load it from the STARTUP.CMD with VMODEM.EXE.

Looking at the nodelist, a node line like this I think will work for
you.. just
enter your PASSWORD.
node 21:2/100@fsxnet error404bbs.ddns.net:24555 PASSWORD c

That's what my node lines look like...except for the real *.cfg...the
password is there...rather than 8-*'s.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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builtin front end. I see you are using version 2.99.41. Care to send me the link where I can find that version? I have a version that is newer than 2.41b3 but it is a demo that expired several years ago. I compiled
a nodelist with Lora and tried to poll my Mystic box but got no response.

I found the source code for 2.99 for OS/2 at this URL:

https://www.os2site.com/sw/comm/bbs/index.html

Here's where I got mine from:

http://archives.thebbs.org/ra103a.htm

Source code right above it...so you can download both at the same time.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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I found the source code for 2.99 for OS/2 at this URL:

https://www.os2site.com/sw/comm/bbs/index.html

Thank you sir!
I took the plunge today with BinkD. I can sucessfully poll my Mystic bbs now. Now to connect it to either Maximus or Lora.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Lab BBS (21:3/105)

I found the source code for 2.99 for OS/2 at this URL: https://www.os2site.com/sw/comm/bbs/index.html

Thank you sir!

No problem at all. This is the free version of Lora 2.99 you can compile for DOS/Windows/Linux/OS/2. Now...to find out how to do that. Tried to install
GCC & Watcom into ArcaOS. Yum was telling me I had a newer version than what
I was downloading.

I took the plunge today with BinkD. I can sucessfully poll my Mystic bbs now. Now to connect it to either Maximus or Lora.

Did find the binary for 1.1.27 & seems to run better...but still won't
connect to any hub. If I can get the free version of Lora compiled & working...am hoping to get it set up & running...especially with the ANSI's done by Andrew P. Looks great on TG/2.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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Hello Phoobar,

send-if-pwd

This not a bad keyword to use but be aware of what it does. Binkd will not send mail to a node if it's an insecure (no password) session. It's good if you always send mail to known and password protected nodes.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Phoobar,

Binkd has seen quite a few changes recently and it is now upto
1.1a-111. I can send you this version if you like.

If you can...please do.

It's in your inbound, BINKD111.ZIP.

That's what my node lines look like...except for the real *.cfg...the password is there...rather than 8-*'s.

Is your binkd still giving you trouble?

If it is it might be something about OS/2 I have forgotten. I recommend asking in the binkd area. There are a few there who can help you with binkd and OS/2.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Warpslide wrote to All <=-

Am I missing something either in Fastecho or Binkd with netmail, or
would I need another utility to toss .MSG files into .PKTs for Binkd?

Ideally I would like netmail to be that same JAM area in Telegard so I
can read them there instead of having to remember to check elsewhere.

FEUTIL.EXE does this job for you.

... The most delicate component will drop.
--- MultiMail/Win v0.52
* Origin: Lean Angle BBS * Southaven MS * winserver.org (21:2/136)

send-if-pwd

This not a bad keyword to use but be aware of what it does. Binkd will
not send
mail to a node if it's an insecure (no password) session. It's good if
you always send mail to known and password protected nodes.

Oh no! Had no idea...but will experiment with it this evening or tomorrow
after work.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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Binkd has seen quite a few changes recently and it is now upto
1.1a-111. I can send you this version if you like.

If you can...please do.

It's in your inbound, BINKD111.ZIP.

Fantastic! Found 027 yesterday & seemed to work better...but will replace
that one with this one.

Is your binkd still giving you trouble?
If it is it might be something about OS/2 I have forgotten. I recommend asking in the binkd area. There are a few there who can help you with binkd and OS/2.

Will be doing that.

Thanks again!

ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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Did find the binary for 1.1.27 & seems to run better...but still won't connect to any hub. If I can get the free version of Lora compiled &

I have version 0.9.4 for OS/2 polling my Mystic BBS and the connection goes through successfully. I did notice that some of the config options not
working. The include file portion appears to be an option to use a nodelist
but it throws an error when I try and enable it. I can not connect to the
Bink port on my Mystic board via dns name in the bink.cfg. I have to use the
ip address and the port number to connect. What error are you getting trying
to conncet to your hub?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Lab BBS (21:3/105)

connect to the Bink port on my Mystic board via dns name in the
bink.cfg. I have to use the ip address and the port number to connect. What error are you getting trying to conncet to your hub?

Here's the errors. They are different than before:

12 Jun 15:35:56 [91] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-27/OS2 binkd.cfg
12 Jun 15:35:56 [92] clientmgr started
? 12 Jun 15:35:56 [91] unexpected pid_file: d:\tgbbs\binkd\binkd.pid: unlinked
12 Jun 15:35:56 [91] servmgr started
- 12 Jun 15:35:56 [91] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 12 Jun 15:35:57 [93] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
! 12 Jun 15:39:44 [92] got signal #15.
! 12 Jun 15:39:44 [91] got signal #15. Killing 92 and quitting...

12 Jun 15:41:37 [98] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-27/OS2 -P 77:1/100 binkd.cfg
12 Jun 15:41:37 [98] creating a poll for 77:1/100@scinet (`d' flavour)
12 Jun 15:41:38 [99] clientmgr started
12 Jun 15:41:38 [98] servmgr started
- 12 Jun 15:41:38 [98] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 12 Jun 15:41:38 [100] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 12 Jun 15:41:38 [101] call to 77:1/100@scinet
! 12 Jun 15:45:24 [99] got signal #15.
! 12 Jun 15:45:24 [98] got signal #15. Killing 99 and quitting...

12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-27/OS2 binkd.cfg
12 Jun 21:15:51 [95] clientmgr started
12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] servmgr started
- 12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 12 Jun 21:15:51 [96] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 12 Jun 21:15:51 [97] call to 77:1/100@scinet
! 12 Jun 21:22:35 [95] got signal #15.
! 12 Jun 21:22:35 [94] got signal #15. Killing 95 and quitting...

Not sure what is happening...but will have 4 days to look into it after I get off tomorrow.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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Here's the errors. They are different than before:

Here is what I get:
14 Jun 07:13:01 [1] BEGIN, binkd/0.9.4 -P 21:3/105 binkd.cfg
14 Jun 07:13:01 [1] creating a poll for 21:3/105@fsxnet (`i' flavour)
14 Jun 07:13:01 [2] clientmgr started
14 Jun 07:13:01 [1] servmgr started
+ 14 Jun 07:14:02 [3] call to 21:3/105@fsxnet
14 Jun 07:14:02 [3] trying 192.168.7.153...
14 Jun 07:14:02 [3] connected
+ 14 Jun 07:14:02 [3] session with 192.168.7.153 (192.168.7.153)
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] OPT CRAM-MD5-ace7637a6bf850cb809e2a80e0fc0723
+ 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] Remote requests MD mode
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] SYS The Lab BBS
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] ZYZ Doctor Wade
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] TIME Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:16:44 -0500
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] VER Mystic/1.12A45 binkp/1.0
- 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] BUILD 2020/02/18 21:32:31 Windows/64
+ 14 Jun 07:14:07 [3] addr: 21:3/105@fsxnet
- 14 Jun 07:14:08 [3] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
+ 14 Jun 07:14:08 [3] done (to 21:3/105@fsxnet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
14 Jun 07:14:08 [3] session closed, quitting...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Lab BBS (21:3/105)

Hello Phoobar,

12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-27/OS2 binkd.cfg
12 Jun 21:15:51 [95] clientmgr started
12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] servmgr started
- 12 Jun 21:15:51 [94] servmgr listen on *:24554
+ 12 Jun 21:15:51 [96] call to 21:2/100@fsxnet
+ 12 Jun 21:15:51 [97] call to 77:1/100@scinet
! 12 Jun 21:22:35 [95] got signal #15.
! 12 Jun 21:22:35 [94] got signal #15. Killing 95 and quitting...

Not sure what is happening...but will have 4 days to look into it
after I get off tomorrow.

On linux signal 15 is SIGTERM, a signal sent to terminate a running program normally. I don't know if signal 15 is the same on OS/2. It must be some kind of error if the program is termianting at that point though I could only guess what.

Tommi Koivula on probably others could help you with an OS/2 setup in the BINKD area. Tommi actually has recent OS/2 builds of Binkd availale for freq.

Blue White also has an OS/2 binkd setup and might be able to help.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

On linux signal 15 is SIGTERM, a signal sent to terminate a running program normally. I don't know if signal 15 is the same on OS/2. It must be some kind of error if the program is termianting at that point though
I could only guess what.

Have a feeling that SGMail is getting the same issue...but it only says "ERROR".

Tommi Koivula on probably others could help you with an OS/2 setup in
the BINKD area. Tommi actually has recent OS/2 builds of Binkd availale for freq.

Forgot I found the most recent build several weeks ago...put away in some folder on my 10 machine...so am running the 111 build now.

Blue White also has an OS/2 binkd setup and might be able to help.

Between laundry & such...will post over on the BINKD fido echo area. Hate it that work takes so much time...but no excuse now.

Thanks for all the help.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/32)
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