MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.
MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've
seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it
be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program?
MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.
I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)
Cheers!
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I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.
I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
permission before making an attempt.
MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)
Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client
My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out
to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time
and/or keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may
have just experienced or went thru??
While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel
the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any
doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at
100 BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and
can go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I
think your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would
service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.
Nope... MRC is not IRC. You should contact the programmer of MRC to
learn about it (protocol etc.).
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)
The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.
I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his permission before making an attempt.
Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.
I was thinking of something akin to apam's MagiChat door, but for MRC.
https://gitlab.com/apamment/magichat-ssl-door
(that's a really awsewome chat door, BTW)
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MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that ha been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a
Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using
wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.
I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
permission before making an attempt.
Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)
I am no developer, but it seems like some other folks are also working
on MRC;
Stackfault has said that he's thinking about an update to add functionality, kind of an MRC 2.0 where he fixes some things and gives
it a little more ability.
aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE
sometime next week.
MeaTLoTioN mentioned in passing that he might wanna add some functions
to his Johnny5 BOT...
even newcomers, like NUKE of Westwood, were trying to fart around and
make the ENiGMA.5 version of MRC work a little better with /commands.
My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time and/or
keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may have just experienced or went thru??
While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at 100
BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and can
go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I think
your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.
On Saturday, February 20th Alpha muttered...
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)
The MRC protocol is incredibly simple. If you look at contrib mrc.js module in enigma it's not a large file at all. Someone could come along and write one in a compiled language, but then you also have to deal
with various systems/architectures. A version written in standalone Node.js or Python for example could go a long way -- but even then
people wanting to hook up a more retro setup would be in the dust.
The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.
The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lac what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.
StackFault mentioned that encryption is in the works. I don't know about decentralization.
Actually, MRC (Mystic Relay Chat) is open source and is written in
Python and MPL -- both of which are all in source.
MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen
Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.
Reach out to me and I can help with the protocol specs and all that.
More than welcome to have other platforms on it.
Cheers!
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If you could, email me at admin@winserver.org with the specs and I will see what I can do :)
see what I can do :)
Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out
and we
can work together to make it go forward.
Cheers!
I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would
love to see it.
I was just thinking about this! I'm re-setting up Telegard yet again
for no particular reason and was looking at MRC. I quickly gave up on that, but it would be cool to get "legacy" BBSes on MRC as well.
Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it in the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
Pretty much all BBS used are telnet like IRC can be, which is pretty much how that started (as chat clients). It seems many want to turn MRC in to a monster - will it grow till it can send and receive email? As the old Unix
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I just want a chat door that does what my IRC chat door does, but you
know
with more people interacting. ;)
aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE sometime next week.
It's gonna be daBomb! MRC on CNet is really cool!
I maintain the server portion and the documentation wiki, any serious developer can reach out to me and we will work something out.
New MRC version has support for utility and services, this will add the possibility to developers wanting to develop services to use MRC to give an interface. This will use a distinct entry point and services will be limited to their own rooms or private messages to avoid cluttering the chat rooms.
Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll
make it happen.
Cheers!
Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we
can work together to make it go forward.
I guess that counts me out then
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I don't know SF personally... but I have chatted with him a bit and -
I bet it you really wanna give it a crack, he'd give you the info you
need. I don't know your skill level- I know I don't even know half the
terms he was using to describe the new MRC system- but... if you wanna
try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an
email. :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.
You did great on the small autosig mod for Talis... that I'm still interested in, yet its NO pressing matter as I don't really do a LOT
on my Talisman BBS. :P
try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an email.
:P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.
I'll def. reach out. I'm curious about SF's thoughts on how we might create an MRC-based door that any BBS could use. the UI on the MPL
version is pretty dang tight, I feel like that's the bar for the experience for sure.
Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it
in the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
I just want a chat door that does what my IRC chat door does, but you
know with more people interacting. ;)
MRC is mostly in python which will run on most systems. So an independent version should be possible without much change. There are already
multiple versions for different OS under Mystic, just need to adapt to other platforms. Seems like the CRT library for display could take over for the display hooks for Mystic currently being used. I think that's
all that needs changing. Are there python doors out there? In truth it doesn't need to be tied to BBS in anyway - it can be an independent program like any chat client.
I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would love to see it.
Ditto. If an .exe were made available with door32.sys support I could
add MRC to Telegard! :)
Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we
can work together to make it go forward.
Cheers!
I guess that counts me out then
I don't know SF personally... but I have chatted with him a bit and -
I bet it you really wanna give it a crack, he'd give you the info you need. I don't know your skill level- I know I don't even know half the terms he was using to describe the new MRC system- but... if you wanna
try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an
email. :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.
You did great on the small autosig mod for Talis... that I'm still interested in, yet its NO pressing matter as I don't really do a LOT
on my Talisman BBS. :P
You're the best, Paulie420. Thanks.
I'll def. reach out. I'm curious about SF's thoughts on how we might create an MRC-based door that any BBS could use. the UI on the MPL
version is pretty dang tight, I feel like that's the bar for the experience for sure.
Also -- going to burn off testable versions of the Autosig mod this week for Linux, Pi and Windows! Thanks for reminding me :)
I've been spending my free time on a re-creating a door game, based on a classic Flash game (Don't Shit Your Pants), and it's getting close to being ready to test... Which means my confidence is growing to do the basics--loops, functions, state management, text and ANSI handling, connection management, etc. SO I might qualify as more serious soon :) Ha
Best,
[] Alpha
Serious developer means someone with a real intention to give back to the community and have more than 5 minutes of attention span to something.
Not pointing or thinking about anyone in particular really, but just someone with a real interest, qualify to this IMO. Too many bystanders making comments without putting a single line of code into anything nowadays... again, not pointing anyone.
Cheers!
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But... I'm interested, in passing, of how your coding your stuff. What language/software/etc? I am not a coder, but I can fart around in MPS/MPL/MPY enough to get in trouble... and its neat that you're
creating and seem like you have some similar amount of knowledge, more/less...
How are you creating your magic, Alpha-wizard???
Serious developer means someone with a real intention to give back to community and have more than 5 minutes of attention span to something
B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and
have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... but most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.
I'm working at doing more stuff - and while I'm getting beyond JUST the visual, it still at the Mystic-level... changing acs's and stuff.. I
hope to go over the edge and start working with files and doing a little more, soon.
I'm currently working on a couple deeper things, but I too get stuck at the 'talk about it' phase often. One day soon, SF... one day soon.
Its really awesome that you're willing to help the community so long as folks are willing to put in the work. No response needed, but you're
seen. Thanks.
B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... b most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.
Well, there are multiple ways to help.
Keep going, the little stuff is also important, it teaches you a lot and slowly you'll get into more stuff. Most of my mods are never released, people uses them on my board without knowing it or it's SysOp side, to help with management tasks. I may release them one day but it's not
urgent for me just yet.
Well, there are multiple ways to help.
I am willing to help in any ways that Paulie420 can, SF. With MRC, with other projects, with creating the small things that I do. I just reached out to you about a small project. (netmail)
Appreciate your words, and I do think I've created a few things that are.... good for the BBS community. I ain't stopping, daddio.
Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll
make ithappen.
So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work
for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP
jo> So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work
jo> for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP
That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.
Let me know if you need anything.
That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.
Let me know if you need anything.
I recommend to suppotr mtcp, is better tcp stack than mstcp
MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with sysop
Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, wouldbe Al> greatly appreciated :)
I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with
sysop and multinode chat) It connects to an (password protected if
chosen) channel on any irc server (with ssl if needed). I am planning to release it soonish, I can even host the irc channels if required.
I wish there was a better/good page sysOp thing in Mystic... I don't
even think
the stock one really works - or at least not on 2o.
Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it in the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
Pretty much all BBS used are telnet like IRC can be, which is pretty much how that started (as chat clients). It seems many want to turn MRC in to a monster - will it grow till it can send and receive email? As the old Unix
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I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
permission before making an attempt.
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